Just to be clear, I don't blame Kabam. I don't agree with the decision to handle it like this, but they were trying to make people happy as quickly as possible, given the fact that the climate didn't exactly exude patience.
Just to be clear, I don't blame Kabam. I don't agree with the decision to handle it like this, but they were trying to make people happy as quickly as possible, given the fact that the climate didn't exactly exude patience.
I know you don’t. You blame anybody with a better team. That’s what is disgraceful and shows your true character.
A difference of 13 Mil. Try a 40 Mil with a 6 Mil like was shown here. Everyone keeps talking about skill like ANY of these Matches have a shot. Riiiiight.
If alliances that different are in the same tier how is that fair anyway? The extremely weak alliances got there by facing other weak alliances, and the strong ones have been held back because they face other strong alliances, the individual matchups may be even, but it’s casing a problem where really strong alliances can’t move up because they’re only facing other really strong alliances, despite far weaker ones being at the same tier and ranking just as high
Well thank goodness all the guesswork is taken out for everyone. All they have to do is work their tails off, and Players higher up can tell them what their effort is worth.
Yep. Because the EARNED that right by beating the teams that you cannot while you STOLE the rewards from them for their hard efforts of growing their team and competing from the ground up by using loopholes of a broken system.
Ain't nobody stole anything from anyone. Both systems involved people getting exactly what they earned.
Oh no. You’ve sat here and insulted everybody who had stronger teams for days because you can’t win. Because you lack skill, a strong team, and common decency. You’ve told everybody that worked hard that they don’t deserve to be ranked above lower ranked teams. Now as somebody who has completed all in game content and had won all war matches at a much higher level last season while ranking below somebody in a 4 star alliance. I’m telling you that you CHEATED THE SYSTEM and YOU ARENT THAT GOOD
Why do you keep implying I'm here for myself? Our last War was pretty even and we won. We had a hard Season last Season, and went down to Silver 1. We just didn't win enough. I'm not here complaining about that. That was no one's shortcoming but our own. Our Matches were fair. I'm here because if something is wrong, it's wrong. No amount of justification and arguing among us will make it right. I'm not here for myself. I'm here to speak up to the reality that it's not rainbows and lollipops, and changing it shouldn't have come at the expense of honest game play.
Well thank goodness all the guesswork is taken out for everyone. All they have to do is work their tails off, and Players higher up can tell them what their effort is worth.
Yep. Because the EARNED that right by beating the teams that you cannot while you STOLE the rewards from them for their hard efforts of growing their team and competing from the ground up by using loopholes of a broken system.
Ain't nobody stole anything from anyone. Both systems involved people getting exactly what they earned.
Oh no. You’ve sat here and insulted everybody who had stronger teams for days because you can’t win. Because you lack skill, a strong team, and common decency. You’ve told everybody that worked hard that they don’t deserve to be ranked above lower ranked teams. Now as somebody who has completed all in game content and had won all war matches at a much higher level last season while ranking below somebody in a 4 star alliance. I’m telling you that you CHEATED THE SYSTEM and YOU ARENT THAT GOOD
Why do you keep implying I'm here for myself? Our last War was pretty even and we won. We had a hard Season last Season, and went down to Silver 1. We just didn't win enough. I'm not here complaining about that. That was no one's shortcoming but our own. Our Matches were fair. I'm here because if something is wrong, it's wrong. No amount of justification and arguing among us will make it right. I'm not here for myself. I'm here to speak up to the reality that it's not rainbows and lollipops, and changing it shouldn't have come at the expense of honest game play.
Ok there shortcut taker. You can pretend you and the 4 star alliances are the best. And you are better than me because you and your small roster beat uncollected more skillfully than my larger roster beat the champion in act 6.
People who stand up for others are usually honest. And you are not that.
Well thank goodness all the guesswork is taken out for everyone. All they have to do is work their tails off, and Players higher up can tell them what their effort is worth.
Yep. Because the EARNED that right by beating the teams that you cannot while you STOLE the rewards from them for their hard efforts of growing their team and competing from the ground up by using loopholes of a broken system.
Ain't nobody stole anything from anyone. Both systems involved people getting exactly what they earned.
Oh no. You’ve sat here and insulted everybody who had stronger teams for days because you can’t win. Because you lack skill, a strong team, and common decency. You’ve told everybody that worked hard that they don’t deserve to be ranked above lower ranked teams. Now as somebody who has completed all in game content and had won all war matches at a much higher level last season while ranking below somebody in a 4 star alliance. I’m telling you that you CHEATED THE SYSTEM and YOU ARENT THAT GOOD
Why do you keep implying I'm here for myself? Our last War was pretty even and we won. We had a hard Season last Season, and went down to Silver 1. We just didn't win enough. I'm not here complaining about that. That was no one's shortcoming but our own. Our Matches were fair. I'm here because if something is wrong, it's wrong. No amount of justification and arguing among us will make it right. I'm not here for myself. I'm here to speak up to the reality that it's not rainbows and lollipops, and changing it shouldn't have come at the expense of honest game play.
Ok there shortcut taker. You can pretend you and the 4 star alliances are the best. And you are better than me because you and your small roster beat uncollected more skillfully than my larger roster beat the champion in act 6.
People who stand up for others are usually honest. And you are not that.
Do you even hear that response? None of that even applies to me.
Well thank goodness all the guesswork is taken out for everyone. All they have to do is work their tails off, and Players higher up can tell them what their effort is worth.
Yep. Because the EARNED that right by beating the teams that you cannot while you STOLE the rewards from them for their hard efforts of growing their team and competing from the ground up by using loopholes of a broken system.
Ain't nobody stole anything from anyone. Both systems involved people getting exactly what they earned.
Oh no. You’ve sat here and insulted everybody who had stronger teams for days because you can’t win. Because you lack skill, a strong team, and common decency. You’ve told everybody that worked hard that they don’t deserve to be ranked above lower ranked teams. Now as somebody who has completed all in game content and had won all war matches at a much higher level last season while ranking below somebody in a 4 star alliance. I’m telling you that you CHEATED THE SYSTEM and YOU ARENT THAT GOOD
Why do you keep implying I'm here for myself? Our last War was pretty even and we won. We had a hard Season last Season, and went down to Silver 1. We just didn't win enough. I'm not here complaining about that. That was no one's shortcoming but our own. Our Matches were fair. I'm here because if something is wrong, it's wrong. No amount of justification and arguing among us will make it right. I'm not here for myself. I'm here to speak up to the reality that it's not rainbows and lollipops, and changing it shouldn't have come at the expense of honest game play.
Ok there shortcut taker. You can pretend you and the 4 star alliances are the best. And you are better than me because you and your small roster beat uncollected more skillfully than my larger roster beat the champion in act 6.
People who stand up for others are usually honest. And you are not that.
Do you even hear that response? None of that even applies to me.
Sure thing there captain honesty. We all know you believe in fairness and balance. Wink wink. 😉
Ironic that someone who just completed RoL and cavalier is telling higher prestige players to get good. Can't wait to see the LOL brag post in 5 years.
The part that is really gonna hurt some alliances is when they figure out how crappy the season rewards are at their true level. After this season is over and you get your rewards and they are incredibly low compared to last season I have a little exercise for you. Imagine that it happened to you for 5 seasons in a row no matter how hard you fought and participated. Now imagine you are a 40 mill plus alliance that has not one member that hasn’t played actively for at least 3 years. From gold1 to silver over that 5 seasons. How is that fair? I’ll tell you. It’s not fair. Or balanced. Or a realistic measure of an alliances true skills. We shall see soon enough.
Ironic that someone who just completed RoL and cavalier is telling higher prestige players to get good. Can't wait to see the LOL brag post in 5 years.
Shhh! Don’t offend the great leader of the low prestige highest skilled players who can’t explore act 5 yet!
All you're doing is trying to make it personal, and I'm not getting wrapped up in that. The only point you have is I haven't beat The Champion yet. I also don't care, and it's not what we're discussing here, so Imma leave the insults to you, and let the conversation move on.
All you're doing is trying to make it personal, and I'm not getting wrapped up in that. The only point you have is I haven't beat The Champion yet. I also don't care, and it's not what we're discussing here, so Imma leave the insults to you, and let the conversation move on.
You made it personal when you started insulting every stronger team saying that they weren’t skilled and paid to win. The fact that they didn’t delete your comments and ban you is just as insulting to those of us who spent so much time and money in this game for you to insult in you crybaby temper tantrums because you can’t win against us. So don’t back down now.
All you're doing is trying to make it personal, and I'm not getting wrapped up in that. The only point you have is I haven't beat The Champion yet. I also don't care, and it's not what we're discussing here, so Imma leave the insults to you, and let the conversation move on.
You made it personal when you started insulting every stronger team saying that they weren’t skilled and paid to win. So don’t back down now.
Mind citing where I said that? Go ahead, I'll wait.
@Ya_Boi_28 without seeing the rest of your roster ; Silver 1...maybe Gold 3 if you have skills. One thing against you is you are going to to place a terrible defense.
I have a question for higher level players regarding which tier I should be in.
My alliance has decided to start running 2 bgs from now on, but if my roster is strong enough to place well, then I may have to move after this season.
I currently have: 1x r5 (soon to be 2) 3x 6-stars 6x r4s 1x r3 13x Maxed 4-Stars
Where should I realistically be placing?
It really comes down to who your team can beat. GW just wants to be ranked above teams that are stronger than his. Some teams aren’t as strong but are highly skilled and rank above some bigger teams. It’s unrealistic to think I could take down a defense that is all 6* r3s without them taking out my defenses with more ease. But that’s the point of rankings. We try to grow our skills AND our rosters to take down those obstacles. There’s no shame in losing or not being the best. That gives incentive to play and grow a stronger team.
Everyone keeps talking about the Rewards and here they are proud as peacocks that the Matches are uneven. The Rewards could have been dealt with. No, no. It's about watching the Allies with weaker Champs fail. 100% sport loss.
Here’s another where you claim stronger alliances don’t want to win and rank higher but want to watch smaller alliances fail.
The difference is, when you take away someone's ability to earn a Win, no matter what they do, it's called a setup.
Here’s one. You want to win and rank higher in your current tier but not face the stronger teams that are in that tier.
That's nothing like what you implied I said. I said when you place people in Matches that are so far that one side has NO chance to win at all, it's a setup. The system sets them up to fail before they even try.
That's the whole point I'm making. If you're placed in even Matches and can only win half of them, that's not the fault of lower Alliances winning more of theirs. If you want to talk about skill, as far as I'm concerned, it starts with a fair fight. Not riding on the misfortunes of people who can never win.
Here’s another one where you compare the matches of 4 stars vs 4 stars to 6 vs 6. While ignoring the efforts of those who worked to grow those rosters yet insulting them as unskilled.
The difference is, when you take away someone's ability to earn a Win, no matter what they do, it's called a setup.
Here’s one. You want to win and rank higher in your current tier but not face the stronger teams that are in that tier.
That's nothing like what you implied I said. I said when you place people in Matches that are so far that one side has NO chance to win at all, it's a setup. The system sets them up to fail before they even try.
These massive mismatches are a growing pain of the new system, until alliances find their true place they will happen a lot, but in the long term this prevents alliances from being held back because of extremely high rating or able to go far higher than they should, I know you’re one of the people who is a huge advocate of slowing down progress of lower players so they don’t immediately get endgame rewards, and that’s exactly what this system will do once the growing pains are over, but unlike hard gates, skill can still allow weaker alliances to grow higher and hold back really strong alliances if they aren’t good players or put little effort in. Yes I think they could’ve mitigated mismatches by having the ratings change in pre season, but then you have tanking again, there’s no true solution, but for the long term this system is far better than the previous one
How about the Alliances in the last few Seasons that decided to take a dive and avoid Defense Tactics, or protest Wars altogether. Does that factor in?
Who cares??? War ranking goes in order from who is the best. Not who won the most fights against the team with prestige closest to them. That’s the issue.
If people are getting to the "best" by beating Alliances that have no chance of winning, then they didn't earn that spot, as far as I'm concerned.
Here’s another where you say that the alliance that took a lot of time building their team didn’t deserve to win against a team that hasn’t put as much work in yet. But that small team is somehow in the same rewards bracket.
@Skitard if you think act 6 doesn’t require skill, for a non spender, you are in for a rude awakening when you get to the champion. The circle in my picture was to highlight the fact I have over 200 war mvps, that means a level of skill, years in the game perfecting skill deserves rewards that aren’t silver. this season I will be fighting alliances that placed far higher than me and who’s war ratings were far higher than ours, who can’t clear half the map of 4/55 and 5/65 defenders. please tell me how easy it is to fight 5/65 dooms, things and korgs, I’ve been doing it for years, for 3* shards, I boss killed every war last season without one death. the system was broken af. You aren’t skilled because you have a weak roster. And you aren’t more skilled than me because you could beat half empty war teams. Welcome To the new tried tested and fairer system, sorry but it’s going to be ugly for a while because of how broken the previous system was I suggested tiers at the start but quickly saw how exploitable that would be, if you are happy with lesser rewards than current, all you really are begging for is special cool sounding titles, we made platinum in war tier 3. (Under 6k prestige war) it has the same rewards as war tier 1 silver 1 rewards. How about you just change your attitude to grateful if you make silver 1, for a 5k alliance that’s a great achievement with applicable rewards, and these bigger alliances like mine won’t be at your level for long at all,
I could go on but honestly I don’t feel like going through a thousand comments. And you never even respond to some of these guys who ask you simple questions for you to support your ridiculous claims.
I have a question for higher level players regarding which tier I should be in.
My alliance has decided to start running 2 bgs from now on, but if my roster is strong enough to place well, then I may have to move after this season.
I currently have: 1x r5 (soon to be 2) 3x 6-stars 6x r4s 1x r3 13x Maxed 4-Stars
Where should I realistically be placing?
There are too many factors left unaccounted for. Before flow wars and the new aw map I would have said skill matters more than your champs but the new node combinations are quite punishing for people with smaller rosters. If you're a good player with high tier r5 and r4 champs you could settle in gold 2
Haha. Not sure actually. But the only case I could think of offhand would be a case relating to double jeopardy. Or maybe a faked death followed by the real deal.
How about the Alliances in the last few Seasons that decided to take a dive and avoid Defense Tactics, or protest Wars altogether. Does that factor in?
Who cares??? War ranking goes in order from who is the best. Not who won the most fights against the team with prestige closest to them. That’s the issue.
If people are getting to the "best" by beating Alliances that have no chance of winning, then they didn't earn that spot, as far as I'm concerned.
Here’s another where you say that the alliance that took a lot of time building their team didn’t deserve to win against a team that hasn’t put as much work in yet. But that small team is somehow in the same rewards bracket.
Yes, I said that. If you're beating people who have no chance of winning no matter how hard they try because you're overpowering them beyond any effort, that's not a fair win.
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I'm here because if something is wrong, it's wrong. No amount of justification and arguing among us will make it right. I'm not here for myself. I'm here to speak up to the reality that it's not rainbows and lollipops, and changing it shouldn't have come at the expense of honest game play.
People who stand up for others are usually honest. And you are not that.
Sure thing there captain honesty. We all know you believe in fairness and balance. Wink wink. 😉
I think I’m starting to understand why you troll so much. It’s kinda fun!
I suggested tiers at the start but quickly saw how exploitable that would be, if you are happy with lesser rewards than current, all you really are begging for is special cool sounding titles, we made platinum in war tier 3. (Under 6k prestige war) it has the same rewards as war tier 1 silver 1 rewards. How about you just change your attitude to grateful if you make silver 1, for a 5k alliance that’s a great achievement with applicable rewards, and these bigger alliances like mine won’t be at your level for long at all,
Before flow wars and the new aw map I would have said skill matters more than your champs but the new node combinations are quite punishing for people with smaller rosters.
If you're a good player with high tier r5 and r4 champs you could settle in gold 2