Namor or Colossus? Who is better? Seeking endgame players opinions

lowlevelplayer

I personally prefer colossus, and think that he preforms better in most situations, but I know lots of people think namor is better.
please vote and leave a comment explaining why.

Greekhit

colossus

I’m not endgame player, but imo Colossus is much better. Namor is only better at prestige.

Masterpuff

colossus

Namor if he is max sig

Thicco_Mode

colossus

colossus's playstyle can adapt really easily to whatever the playstyle of the node is, and the value is still very high

lowlevelplayer

colossus

so I guess I win the argument with the guy from global?

Rockypantherx

colossus

I’m going to tentatively say Colossus. I’ve had mine at R5 for a while but I’m not sold yet. I think the sticking point for me is that while Colossus is probably the better champion, as my vote indicates, I think a roster can easily survive without him

Namor on the other hand is one of those champs like Void that every account should really have. He can bypass a lot. For anyone below Act 6, Colossus is clearly superior. But someone who has a lot of 5/65’s that cover a lot of ground, Namor might be more valuable. He might be niche, but that’s really the rank ups you’re looking for at that point

Of course, I say this as someone who doesn’t have a Namor. And I’ve survived without him. Probably because I have Omega who can sort of do what he does. Not as well but he can handle it

Jaded

namor

UmbertoDelRio said:

By a longshot. Namor is way more niche than most tier lists make him out to be. And even in his niche he isn't the only one (anymore).

Colossus on the other hand is loaded with utility and can also do some beastly damage.

Namor even at max sig is highly overrated imo.

And what does colossus do that no one else does better? 😂😂

Namor has one of the best signature abilities in the game. Colossus doesn’t come near namor’s abilities.

Etjama

colossus

Eeeeeasy. Namor's so niche, Colossus works for so much.

SwarmOfRavens

colossus

Colossus is much better imo

Namors utility is very niche and can be circumvented with proper counters. I find it hard to recommend him above most of the top mutants

Jaded

namor

UmbertoDelRio said:

Jaded said:

UmbertoDelRio said:

By a longshot. Namor is way more niche than most tier lists make him out to be. And even in his niche he isn't the only one (anymore).

Colossus on the other hand is loaded with utility and can also do some beastly damage.

Namor even at max sig is highly overrated imo.

And what does colossus do that no one else does better? 😂😂

Namor has one of the best signature abilities in the game. Colossus doesn’t come near namor’s abilities.

He is probably by far the best havok counter due to his armor break immunity and he has a unique set of immunities in general, with bleed, incinerate, coldsnap and armor break.

Namor's sig ability is ridiculously niche. There's hardly anything he can do that no one else can do. There are some things he can ignore while one needs to play around them with other champs, but he isn't nessecary for anything.

He would be strict bench material, if I ever pulled him. My colossus on the other hand already put in a lot of work in my current act 6 exploration and he's only a 4/55.

There’s many champs that do what Colossus does, but no champ puts DOT back on the defender...and it’s not niche...anyone that says he is niche doesn’t use him properly. Except a simple limber or stun immune stops colossus massively.

Berjibs

If you think colossus is impaired by stun immune I’d suggest you try him in LOL and come back when you’ve soloed most fights and tell us what you think then. :-)

Berjibs

Parry heavy with colossus keeps the hit count down in fights but ups the block damage. It’s actually faster and more efficient to play by cycling sp2 as fast as possible, ideally with the Emma synergy. Also you can use his sp3 effect in stun immune situations to create openings if you aren’t a capable interceptor.

I’m sure namor has some awesome utility but its expensive to realise his full potential. When sig stones for most people are hard to come by they could instead take AA, colossus, sunspot or whoever to decent sig level with those 200 stones and put them to use in an incredibly broad range of matchups.

arsjum

colossus

Colossus and it's not even close. This comes back to a lot o comparisons where players for some reason pick champions who are extremely good at niche situations over a champion who is quite versatile and covers way more than the other. Colossus out of the two is much more versatile and suitable for many situations.

10or_Strong

colossus

I have both as maxed 5* (5/65, Sig 200) on my main account, and I will say that, while Namor is the best option for specific matchups (I'm looking at YOU, Electro and any other unavoidable damage), Colossus is the more rounded and overall better option, IMO. His multiple immunities, massive damage potential, and pure tankiness make him viable in so much content.

Jaded

namor

You colossus fanboys are almost the worse. Never able to see beyond the truth. Everything he does, someone else does better. He has 1 quality that could be somewhat beneficial, that’s his immunities. But there are others can do same and better. Namor doesn’t have “immunities”, but colossus can’t reflect the DOT back to the defender AND regen (with wp).

Is colossus good? Yes, is he better than Namor. No.

Namor has everything colossus has and more (also namor’s high damage output is easier to get).

DalBot

Dumb question because they're totally different champs with totally different uses. Namor does some things that no other champ can do (throw automatic damage back at a defender, throw massive special after special etc), while Colossus has some sweet tricks, immunities, heavy damage and damage on parries to the opponent.

It's a matter of what you need for specific situations.

lowlevelplayer

colossus

Jaded said:

You colossus fanboys are almost the worse. Never able to see beyond the truth. Everything he does, someone else does better. He has 1 quality that could be somewhat beneficial, that’s his immunities. But there are others can do same and better. Namor doesn’t have “immunities”, but colossus can’t reflect the DOT back to the defender AND regen (with wp).

Is colossus good? Yes, is he better than Namor. No.

Namor has everything colossus has and more (also namor’s high damage output is easier to get).

Not true. For colossus, you can just parry heavy until sp2. Launch heavy, and before the 2nd hit throw sp2. Get massive fury bonus, combined with armor up buffs, and destroy the oppoent.
Namor: Build up to SP3. Wait for imperious rex. Active imperious rex. Throw SP3. Throw SP2. repeat.

Yes, namor can reflect DOT back to defender, but he needs max sig and also has to be super agressive.

What champs do what colossus do better? They might do one or two things he does better, but not everything. Colossus combines all these things.

Lvernon15

colossus

Colossus is insane for a huge array of fights, insane damage and extremely useful utility, namor is a lot more niche, being solid for most things but not being anything special outside a few matchups

Thicco_Mode

colossus

Lvernon15 said:

Colossus is insane for a huge array of fights, insane damage and extremely useful utility, namor is a lot more niche, being solid for most things but not being anything special outside a few matchups

this is a good summary of it, imo. colossus can handle most fights with ease with amazing damage and some solid utility. namor isn't as good as colossus for general fights, but for those special fights that his sig is good for, he is generally one of the best matchups

Etjama

colossus

Jaded said:

You colossus fanboys are almost the worse. Never able to see beyond the truth. Everything he does, someone else does better. He has 1 quality that could be somewhat beneficial, that’s his immunities. But there are others can do same and better. Namor doesn’t have “immunities”, but colossus can’t reflect the DOT back to the defender AND regen (with wp).

Is colossus good? Yes, is he better than Namor. No.

Namor has everything colossus has and more (also namor’s high damage output is easier to get).

Okay, first of all: Just because there are champions that do certain things better than him doesn't mean he's not one of the best champs in the game.
Awakened Luke Cage can ignore Sp3's better than Ghost, Corvus' guaranteed crits are more easily accessible, and several champs have better special damage. And yet, Ghost is still top 2 in the game.

Second of all: Quake's combination of AAR and not hitting the opponent let's you ignore most of what Namor can deal back and what she can't ignore, other champs do with their immunities. Plus there are champs like CMM that can ignore that kind of damage with a long-lasting indestructible. So Namor doesn't actually cover anything that no one else can. Plus even if he's sig 200, you still can't reflect all damage even if you're playing as aggressive as possible. Unless you're talking about damage reflecting the opponent's damage reflection, but Quake can ignore that ****.

And thirdly: Namor's damage is definitely not easier to get. For the best damage, you've got to get to a Sp3, throw it right before Imperius Rex (which takes a long time to ramp up even if you're throwing double mediums), then throw another Sp3, Sp2 and whatever else you can get off. If that doesn't do it, you have to do it all again. With Colossus, you can just parry, heavy, repeat, parry, heavy, Sp2 which gives a huge of damage. And those who say he can't deal with limber or stun immune are just wrong cause you can still just use basic combos and Sp2's and get massive damage output which is how people solo almost all Labyrinth fights with him. Plus, both of these strategies are super easy to do and work up to, especially with Emma on the team

Qfury

Etjama said:

Jaded said:

You colossus fanboys are almost the worse. Never able to see beyond the truth. Everything he does, someone else does better. He has 1 quality that could be somewhat beneficial, that’s his immunities. But there are others can do same and better. Namor doesn’t have “immunities”, but colossus can’t reflect the DOT back to the defender AND regen (with wp).

Is colossus good? Yes, is he better than Namor. No.

Namor has everything colossus has and more (also namor’s high damage output is easier to get).

Okay, first of all: Just because there are champions that do certain things better than him doesn't mean he's not one of the best champs in the game.
Awakened Luke Cage can ignore Sp3's better than Ghost, Corvus' guaranteed crits are more easily accessible, and several champs have better special damage. And yet, Ghost is still top 2 in the game.

Second of all: Quake's combination of AAR and not hitting the opponent let's you ignore most of what Namor can deal back and what she can't ignore, other champs do with their immunities. Plus there are champs like CMM that can ignore that kind of damage with a long-lasting indestructible. So Namor doesn't actually cover anything that no one else can. Plus even if he's sig 200, you still can't reflect all damage even if you're playing as aggressive as possible. Unless you're talking about damage reflecting the opponent's damage reflection, but Quake can ignore that ****.

And thirdly: Namor's damage is definitely not easier to get. For the best damage, you've got to get to a Sp3, throw it right before Imperius Rex (which takes a long time to ramp up even if you're throwing double mediums), then throw another Sp3, Sp2 and whatever else you can get off. If that doesn't do it, you have to do it all again. With Colossus, you can just parry, heavy, repeat, parry, heavy, Sp2 which gives a huge of damage. And those who say he can't deal with limber or stun immune are just wrong cause you can still just use basic combos and Sp2's and get massive damage output which is how people solo almost all Labyrinth fights with him. Plus, both of these strategies are super easy to do and work up to, especially with Emma on the team

So what your saying is quake is the best champ in game?

lowlevelplayer

colossus

Qfury said:

Etjama said:

Jaded said:

You colossus fanboys are almost the worse. Never able to see beyond the truth. Everything he does, someone else does better. He has 1 quality that could be somewhat beneficial, that’s his immunities. But there are others can do same and better. Namor doesn’t have “immunities”, but colossus can’t reflect the DOT back to the defender AND regen (with wp).

Is colossus good? Yes, is he better than Namor. No.

Namor has everything colossus has and more (also namor’s high damage output is easier to get).

Okay, first of all: Just because there are champions that do certain things better than him doesn't mean he's not one of the best champs in the game.
Awakened Luke Cage can ignore Sp3's better than Ghost, Corvus' guaranteed crits are more easily accessible, and several champs have better special damage. And yet, Ghost is still top 2 in the game.

Second of all: Quake's combination of AAR and not hitting the opponent let's you ignore most of what Namor can deal back and what she can't ignore, other champs do with their immunities. Plus there are champs like CMM that can ignore that kind of damage with a long-lasting indestructible. So Namor doesn't actually cover anything that no one else can. Plus even if he's sig 200, you still can't reflect all damage even if you're playing as aggressive as possible. Unless you're talking about damage reflecting the opponent's damage reflection, but Quake can ignore that ****.

And thirdly: Namor's damage is definitely not easier to get. For the best damage, you've got to get to a Sp3, throw it right before Imperius Rex (which takes a long time to ramp up even if you're throwing double mediums), then throw another Sp3, Sp2 and whatever else you can get off. If that doesn't do it, you have to do it all again. With Colossus, you can just parry, heavy, repeat, parry, heavy, Sp2 which gives a huge of damage. And those who say he can't deal with limber or stun immune are just wrong cause you can still just use basic combos and Sp2's and get massive damage output which is how people solo almost all Labyrinth fights with him. Plus, both of these strategies are super easy to do and work up to, especially with Emma on the team

So what your saying is quake is the best champ in game?

she kinda is...

Etjama

colossus

Qfury said:

Etjama said:

Jaded said:

You colossus fanboys are almost the worse. Never able to see beyond the truth. Everything he does, someone else does better. He has 1 quality that could be somewhat beneficial, that’s his immunities. But there are others can do same and better. Namor doesn’t have “immunities”, but colossus can’t reflect the DOT back to the defender AND regen (with wp).

Is colossus good? Yes, is he better than Namor. No.

Namor has everything colossus has and more (also namor’s high damage output is easier to get).

Okay, first of all: Just because there are champions that do certain things better than him doesn't mean he's not one of the best champs in the game.
Awakened Luke Cage can ignore Sp3's better than Ghost, Corvus' guaranteed crits are more easily accessible, and several champs have better special damage. And yet, Ghost is still top 2 in the game.

Second of all: Quake's combination of AAR and not hitting the opponent let's you ignore most of what Namor can deal back and what she can't ignore, other champs do with their immunities. Plus there are champs like CMM that can ignore that kind of damage with a long-lasting indestructible. So Namor doesn't actually cover anything that no one else can. Plus even if he's sig 200, you still can't reflect all damage even if you're playing as aggressive as possible. Unless you're talking about damage reflecting the opponent's damage reflection, but Quake can ignore that ****.

And thirdly: Namor's damage is definitely not easier to get. For the best damage, you've got to get to a Sp3, throw it right before Imperius Rex (which takes a long time to ramp up even if you're throwing double mediums), then throw another Sp3, Sp2 and whatever else you can get off. If that doesn't do it, you have to do it all again. With Colossus, you can just parry, heavy, repeat, parry, heavy, Sp2 which gives a huge of damage. And those who say he can't deal with limber or stun immune are just wrong cause you can still just use basic combos and Sp2's and get massive damage output which is how people solo almost all Labyrinth fights with him. Plus, both of these strategies are super easy to do and work up to, especially with Emma on the team

So what your saying is quake is the best champ in game?

Well, yes? 😂

But also, Colossus is better than Namor in 95% of fights and that 5* that Namor is better for doesn't make him the better champ.

Lunae

Outside Ghost and Aegon (ramped up), isn’t Colossus one of the highest, if not highest, damage dealing champion with the most immunities? That’s nothing to scoff at. Colossus can easily do way more fights then Namor while Namor can only do one fight Colossus cant, don’t see how they’re on par.

Agent_X_zzz

colossus

Colossues Does more overall than namor and he does not need max sig like namor.

SwarmOfRavens

colossus

UmbertoDelRio said:

Jaded said:

You colossus fanboys are almost the worse. Never able to see beyond the truth. Everything he does, someone else does better. He has 1 quality that could be somewhat beneficial, that’s his immunities. But there are others can do same and better. Namor doesn’t have “immunities”, but colossus can’t reflect the DOT back to the defender AND regen (with wp).

Is colossus good? Yes, is he better than Namor. No.

Namor has everything colossus has and more (also namor’s high damage output is easier to get).

Lol someone's salty they didn't rank down namor when they had the chance and now need to somehow justify that decision.

Jokes aside, though, you're wrong.

I'd be salty too if I spent 200 sigs on a champ who spends 90% of the time warming the bench

DalBot

Lot of people here hating on Namor because they don't know how to play Namor. Yes, high sig is needed to get the most out of Namor, but sig and suicides and he dominates damn near everything.

Any champ that damages you when you hit them? Namor makes them pay PLUS he regens if you have suicides/willpower while be does it. Automatic damage nodes? Same thing, throw it right back at the defender.

Would it say Namor is definitively better than Colossus? No but it's a fair argument. Can't go wrong with either one.

Jaded

namor

UmbertoDelRio said:

Jaded said:

You colossus fanboys are almost the worse. Never able to see beyond the truth. Everything he does, someone else does better. He has 1 quality that could be somewhat beneficial, that’s his immunities. But there are others can do same and better. Namor doesn’t have “immunities”, but colossus can’t reflect the DOT back to the defender AND regen (with wp).

Is colossus good? Yes, is he better than Namor. No.

Namor has everything colossus has and more (also namor’s high damage output is easier to get).

Lol someone's salty they didn't rank down namor when they had the chance and now need to somehow justify that decision.

Jokes aside, though, you're wrong.

I did rank namor down, and ranked him back up allocated sig stones to doom. Which didn’t matter in the end because both are sig 200 now. I’m not salty about anything, I’ve got my Colossus at r4 5* sig 200 as well. But he won’t go r5 because my other 30 rank 5 5* are more capable overall then he is. I’ve also been part of all the betas for all the reworked champs, part of the betas for act 6. Never used colossus, but used namor.

Ya_Boi_28 said:

Jaded said:

UmbertoDelRio said:

By a longshot. Namor is way more niche than most tier lists make him out to be. And even in his niche he isn't the only one (anymore).

Colossus on the other hand is loaded with utility and can also do some beastly damage.

Namor even at max sig is highly overrated imo.

And what does colossus do that no one else does better? 😂😂

Namor has one of the best signature abilities in the game. Colossus doesn’t come near namor’s abilities.

How does Namor do against Havok? Buffed up? Amy immunities we should know of? How long is that ramp up again? Any tankiness or solid sustainability besides a little regen?

What does namor have on colossus when he's unawakened? How long does it take to get a 5-Star to sig 200? You have to invest in Namor to get the most out of him.

So....colossus can handle havok and he has immunities. But he isn’t niche but namor is? Lamo okay. If namor is niche then so is colossus. It doesn’t take as long as you think to max sig a 5* when you purchase offers. Even every Sunday has 5x 5* generic sig stones plus a handful of other goodies for $5. July 4th deals got me 300 generic sig stones alone. While sig stones are hard to come by, it isn’t that hard if you are a willing participant in picking up signature stones whenever they pop up.

You can’t argue what IFs. The question is which one is better, so at full abilities namor outweighs colossus.

DalBot

This right here is the kind of stuff Namor can do in the right hands

https://youtu.be/SVpc-VdA-RI

DalBot

Ya_Boi_28 said:

How does Namor do against Havok? Buffed up? Amy immunities we should know of? How long is that ramp up again? Any tankiness or solid sustainability besides a little regen?

What does namor have on colossus when he's unawakened? How long does it take to get a 5-Star to sig 200? You have to invest in Namor to get the most out of him.

I guess you've never used Namor against Havok because if you had you'd know that he throws Havoks plasma burst damage right back at him

As for immunities, if Namor is sig 200 he's using those debuffs against him as free heal whenever he's attacking.

Me thinks you don't know much about high sig Namor 🤔

Jaded

namor

Ya_Boi_28 said:

DalBot said:

Ya_Boi_28 said:

How does Namor do against Havok? Buffed up? Amy immunities we should know of? How long is that ramp up again? Any tankiness or solid sustainability besides a little regen?

What does namor have on colossus when he's unawakened? How long does it take to get a 5-Star to sig 200? You have to invest in Namor to get the most out of him.

I guess you've never used Namor against Havok because if you had you'd know that he throws Havoks plasma burst damage right back at him

As for immunities, if Namor is sig 200 he's using those debuffs against him as free heal whenever he's attacking.

Me thinks you don't know much about high sig Namor 🤔

1) Time it incorrectly and you're dead
2) Not everyone has a sig 200 Namor

Not everyone has a sig 200 namor? That’s not the question. OP didn’t ask about who has a sig 200 namor. Smh.

Time it correctly and it’s a blast of fun.