@Gmail12345 what was your war finishing point last season, what was theirs. My alliance is up from tier 8 to tier 4. We are now matching where we should be give it one or two wars you will be there
See this is where it shows how previous systems were broke. Looking at the history I can still see in aw before the change every war we had was against an alliance with a very similar prestige and pi and they all finished g1/g2 We won about half I would say maybe a little less and we finished g2. The alliance we just fought finished plat 4. So how did they deserve that finish when we just demolished them like that?
All these alliance crying and complaining won’t give back the inflated rewards they were getting but now want more for losing.
Aw is purely now based on war rating and that how it should be.
The argument isn't for Rewards. It's for Matches that aren't already decided before they're fought because they're vastly overpowered.
And that was how the last system was unfair matching similar prestige etc. The smaller alliances had higher ratings because they got easier matches now they have to fight people at the same war rating and they don’t like it, still they were happy to receive there inflated rewards for season after season. Would they offer to give back all there rewards from previous seasons?
One problem doesn't justify solving another.
So even though for previous seasons they got inflated rewards that doesn’t matter. The only thing now that matters is there having to fight at a level they can’t handle.
It doesn't matter because they earned them the way the system was then. You can't argue they should give them back based on how the system is now. That's not what they fought in. They don't owe anyone anything. They didn't come in the dead of night and snatch someone's loot. They Matched and fought their Wars.
And now the system has changed to a fairer system. So that’s that.
Fair for the people benefitting from these overpowered Matches. Not for the weaker ones that have no choice but to lose. Fair doesn't apply to one side and not the other. That's a contradiction by definition.
And back to how was it fair last season with smaller alliances ending up in tiers so much higher than alliances that are far better than them? You can’t have your cake and eat it.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
So your saying the old system was ok? Wrong? Or it doesn’t matter as it’s over and no longer counts?
Did I say that? No. I said screwing one group of people over doesn't make it okay to screw another group of people over.
@Gmail12345 what was your war finishing point last season, what was theirs. My alliance is up from tier 8 to tier 4. We are now matching where we should be give it one or two wars you will be there
See this is where it shows how previous systems were broke. Looking at the history I can still see in aw before the change every war we had was against an alliance with a very similar prestige and pi and they all finished g1/g2 We won about half I would say maybe a little less and we finished g2. The alliance we just fought finished plat 4. So how did they deserve that finish when we just demolished them like that?
All these alliance crying and complaining won’t give back the inflated rewards they were getting but now want more for losing.
Aw is purely now based on war rating and that how it should be.
The argument isn't for Rewards. It's for Matches that aren't already decided before they're fought because they're vastly overpowered.
And that was how the last system was unfair matching similar prestige etc. The smaller alliances had higher ratings because they got easier matches now they have to fight people at the same war rating and they don’t like it, still they were happy to receive there inflated rewards for season after season. Would they offer to give back all there rewards from previous seasons?
One problem doesn't justify solving another.
So even though for previous seasons they got inflated rewards that doesn’t matter. The only thing now that matters is there having to fight at a level they can’t handle.
It doesn't matter because they earned them the way the system was then. You can't argue they should give them back based on how the system is now. That's not what they fought in. They don't owe anyone anything. They didn't come in the dead of night and snatch someone's loot. They Matched and fought their Wars.
And now the system has changed to a fairer system. So that’s that.
Fair for the people benefitting from these overpowered Matches. Not for the weaker ones that have no choice but to lose. Fair doesn't apply to one side and not the other. That's a contradiction by definition.
And back to how was it fair last season with smaller alliances ending up in tiers so much higher than alliances that are far better than them? You can’t have your cake and eat it.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
There is no wrong here. the reason the old system was unfair is that it unjustly kept rewards from the better alliances and rewarded inferior alliances. This system does not do this. The issue here is not the fairness of this system this season, but that people are losing and they dont like to lose. The people with artificially high scores will drop and should get the rewards they actually deserve or better if it does not balance itself fast enough. The people screwed from the previous system should climb the ratings, and while they may not reach the tier the deserve their rewards should be better than they would have been under the old system.
So tell me, what is unfair about the season? You not liking to lose?
If I lose, I lose. I'm not bothered. We just lost. My guys are struggling with that Mixmaster Korg. They'll get better counters eventually. Once again, I'm not here to gain some kind of unfair advantage, and I'm not here for myself. The people facing these Matches ARE getting screwed, and people can keep saying it'll all be okay in the morning, but that doesn't make it any less true.
I asked you HOW they are getting screwed? They will get the rewards their skill level deserves or better this season, so how are they screwed? How do you define screwed?
@Gmail12345 what was your war finishing point last season, what was theirs. My alliance is up from tier 8 to tier 4. We are now matching where we should be give it one or two wars you will be there
See this is where it shows how previous systems were broke. Looking at the history I can still see in aw before the change every war we had was against an alliance with a very similar prestige and pi and they all finished g1/g2 We won about half I would say maybe a little less and we finished g2. The alliance we just fought finished plat 4. So how did they deserve that finish when we just demolished them like that?
All these alliance crying and complaining won’t give back the inflated rewards they were getting but now want more for losing.
Aw is purely now based on war rating and that how it should be.
The argument isn't for Rewards. It's for Matches that aren't already decided before they're fought because they're vastly overpowered.
And that was how the last system was unfair matching similar prestige etc. The smaller alliances had higher ratings because they got easier matches now they have to fight people at the same war rating and they don’t like it, still they were happy to receive there inflated rewards for season after season. Would they offer to give back all there rewards from previous seasons?
One problem doesn't justify solving another.
So even though for previous seasons they got inflated rewards that doesn’t matter. The only thing now that matters is there having to fight at a level they can’t handle.
It doesn't matter because they earned them the way the system was then. You can't argue they should give them back based on how the system is now. That's not what they fought in. They don't owe anyone anything. They didn't come in the dead of night and snatch someone's loot. They Matched and fought their Wars.
And now the system has changed to a fairer system. So that’s that.
Fair for the people benefitting from these overpowered Matches. Not for the weaker ones that have no choice but to lose. Fair doesn't apply to one side and not the other. That's a contradiction by definition.
And back to how was it fair last season with smaller alliances ending up in tiers so much higher than alliances that are far better than them? You can’t have your cake and eat it.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
So your saying the old system was ok? Wrong? Or it doesn’t matter as it’s over and no longer counts?
Did I say that? No. I said screwing one group of people over doesn't make it okay to screw another group of people over.
@Gmail12345 what was your war finishing point last season, what was theirs. My alliance is up from tier 8 to tier 4. We are now matching where we should be give it one or two wars you will be there
See this is where it shows how previous systems were broke. Looking at the history I can still see in aw before the change every war we had was against an alliance with a very similar prestige and pi and they all finished g1/g2 We won about half I would say maybe a little less and we finished g2. The alliance we just fought finished plat 4. So how did they deserve that finish when we just demolished them like that?
All these alliance crying and complaining won’t give back the inflated rewards they were getting but now want more for losing.
Aw is purely now based on war rating and that how it should be.
The argument isn't for Rewards. It's for Matches that aren't already decided before they're fought because they're vastly overpowered.
And that was how the last system was unfair matching similar prestige etc. The smaller alliances had higher ratings because they got easier matches now they have to fight people at the same war rating and they don’t like it, still they were happy to receive there inflated rewards for season after season. Would they offer to give back all there rewards from previous seasons?
One problem doesn't justify solving another.
So even though for previous seasons they got inflated rewards that doesn’t matter. The only thing now that matters is there having to fight at a level they can’t handle.
It doesn't matter because they earned them the way the system was then. You can't argue they should give them back based on how the system is now. That's not what they fought in. They don't owe anyone anything. They didn't come in the dead of night and snatch someone's loot. They Matched and fought their Wars.
And now the system has changed to a fairer system. So that’s that.
Fair for the people benefitting from these overpowered Matches. Not for the weaker ones that have no choice but to lose. Fair doesn't apply to one side and not the other. That's a contradiction by definition.
And back to how was it fair last season with smaller alliances ending up in tiers so much higher than alliances that are far better than them? You can’t have your cake and eat it.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
There is no wrong here. the reason the old system was unfair is that it unjustly kept rewards from the better alliances and rewarded inferior alliances. This system does not do this. The issue here is not the fairness of this system this season, but that people are losing and they dont like to lose. The people with artificially high scores will drop and should get the rewards they actually deserve or better if it does not balance itself fast enough. The people screwed from the previous system should climb the ratings, and while they may not reach the tier the deserve their rewards should be better than they would have been under the old system.
So tell me, what is unfair about the season? You not liking to lose?
If I lose, I lose. I'm not bothered. We just lost. My guys are struggling with that Mixmaster Korg. They'll get better counters eventually. Once again, I'm not here to gain some kind of unfair advantage, and I'm not here for myself. The people facing these Matches ARE getting screwed, and people can keep saying it'll all be okay in the morning, but that doesn't make it any less true.
I asked you HOW they are getting screwed? They will get the rewards their skill level deserves or better this season, so how are they screwed? How do you define screwed?
They're getting screwed by being Matched in Wars they have no chance of winning. How that keeps escaping people is beyond me. Rewards, rewards, rewards. That's the response people keep giving, but that's not the argument. Not at all.
A previous thread on this had been shut down. Continuing an argument into a new thread that was part of the reason it was shut down is not okay. Please remember to be kind, courteous, and constructive.
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