Claire Vs Herald Difficulty Aarkus

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  • BigPoppaCBONEBigPoppaCBONE Member Posts: 2,418 ★★★★★
    Aleor said:

    @AzKicker316 Which SS Sorcerer or Symbiote. I mean I used Symbiote and Sorcerer many times against this Aarkus as well. I don't have top Mystics like Claire or Doom

    The fact is if you are talking about Symbiote, then from my experience I was once using him, but RNG was not in my favour not staggers at all. That's why I still believe Claire, Sorcerer and Doom are beat counters.

    Symbiot is the best option for him imo, but you need md. He nullifies in start of the fight, then you need to be a little more aggressive to place one stagger - it's pretty easy actually. When it expires, I already have my sp3 ready and after it the fight is over with 1-2 sp2s. Also after launching sp3 you can tank aarkus sp3.
    SymSupreme is by far the best option. No MD needed. The Dr Strange synergy makes the one shot pretty easy. I used him for the whole path.
  • TendersquadTendersquad Member Posts: 198
    I find that Doom is by far the best option. Immune to armor break which prevents death by coldsnap. I have solo'd Aarkus everytime and he is the only one I fight each week. Get to a SP1, fire it off and steal the power gains. Takes you to SP3 and when you come out of it, hit him with a SP 1 again to knock him off full power and then SP 3 again. Rinse and repeat.
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  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,873 Guardian

    I find that Doom is by far the best option. Immune to armor break which prevents death by coldsnap. I have solo'd Aarkus everytime and he is the only one I fight each week. Get to a SP1, fire it off and steal the power gains. Takes you to SP3 and when you come out of it, hit him with a SP 1 again to knock him off full power and then SP 3 again. Rinse and repeat.

    I haven't used Doom so I can't say if he's better or not. but the fight is so easy with Symbiote Supreme I don't know how much easier it could possibly get. I've been mostly doing Cosmic day, and for me Cosmic day is goofing off in the first few fights, and then using SymSupreme for The Champion, Hyperion, and Aarkus all in a row, and rarely do I have even a scratch after those three fights. SS just obliterates them. He would obliterate the entire path, but I save him for the last three fights just in case I goof up early. The entire rest of the team is literally just back up for SS if I make a stupid mistake.
  • Aomine_Daiki10Aomine_Daiki10 Member Posts: 1,653 ★★★★★
    I have Claire,SS and doom all at rank 5 duped and I only run cosmic days for herald difficulty. I have used all 3 to solo, I don't run sucides but the most efficient and less stressful was SS. Once he enters his sp3 cycle he takes over the fight,can tank sp3 or perfect block sp2 if needed + the bleed damage is insane and the power steal on the sp2+ armour break just makes that fight a walkover.
  • LunaeLunae Member Posts: 371 ★★★
    Best option is apparently Loki :o lol


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnafC3HZPjw
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  • ErosenseiogErosenseiog Member Posts: 287

    @AzKicker316 Which SS Sorcerer or Symbiote. I mean I used Symbiote and Sorcerer many times against this Aarkus as well. I don't have top Mystics like Claire or Doom

    The fact is if you are talking about Symbiote, then from my experience I was once using him, but RNG was not in my favour not staggers at all. That's why I still believe Claire, Sorcerer and Doom are beat counters.

    Symbiote Supreme is better than Claire for this fight. If you are running 4/5 in MD, you need 0 rng support. 5/65 SS can one shot this aarkus everytime. I have 6* BWCV but she isn’t as efficient in this particular instant.
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★

    HI_guys said:

    What?? She's the best after doom.

    Lies. All lies. 12 hits with ms
    @Aleor I would love to see a video on this. Not that I'm trying to disprove you, but I actually want to see the ridicule that is involved, lol.
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★
    BTW, I enjoy using Claire to bully aarkus. She's the best counter in my book, because I hate sitting through SP 3 animations in the case of Doom, supreme and co.

    Nevertheless, there's a way to spam charge gain whenever you need, just throw your SP 2 in her poison phase, and make sure his tenacity is on cool down. Every SP 2 hit would give him a power gain buff, because of aarkus' ability against power control, but because of Claire's buff immunity, all 8 hits or so give her a Claire charge each.
  • AleorAleor Member Posts: 3,106 ★★★★★

    HI_guys said:

    What?? She's the best after doom.

    Lies. All lies. 12 hits with ms
    @Aleor I would love to see a video on this. Not that I'm trying to disprove you, but I actually want to see the ridicule that is involved, lol.
    Aleor said:

    I didn't get a solo, had 3 tries with a 3* and died mostly because of block damage. But it's definitely doable. Easy with r5 5*

    https://youtu.be/c2O1jwbxcAo

    @Kill_Grey4112, ^ — that's mine.

    If you don't trust @OneManArmy 12 hits - ramped r3 6* ms will copy aarkus's power gains and reduce potency of his, I believe. So you can just wait for sp2 and fire it. For every buff in opponent ms increases sp2 damage. Wait a little all he could activate fury from node - ms again steals the buff. Sp2 3 hits, so you have 4 sp2. So personally I can easily belive it

    Also I belive we won't have any aarkus quest available again
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  • Bugmat78Bugmat78 Member Posts: 2,412 ★★★★★
    Lormif said:

    Lormif said:

    Lormif said:

    she is great but you also have to run with some luck because if he doesnt throw his sp1 and reaches sp2. well that goes with any champ.


    You can evade his sp2, and if not, block damage isn't that great. But he definitely needs to throw either of those regularly
    With SS you have a lot more wiggle room. staggers help keep the power gain off, and you typically gain enough power for an SP3 before you run out of recurring staggers without cycling. his bleeds also bleed him quickly. BWCV has a lot harder time managing the power, atleast for me.
    @Lormif But how, Claire has the best buff control, no RNG dependent. I used SS and ad far as I think his staggers have chances to place
    While Claire have 100% chance to Nullify. Unless you are using Claire wrong. Tell me how you are using Claire. Because for Aarkus after Claire and Doom are top 2 best options. No RNG or MD involved.

    I disagree, I feel SS has best buff control. With CV you start with some charges, but then you have to cause debuffs on immunities to get more. If you cannot, for instance because you could not bait him, you get stuck, especially considering the power lock status. You are stuck with just as much if not more due to rng.


    With SS:
    In Chthon's cunning you have a 50% change to place a stagger on a critical, 5% on non critical. I have had 9 on him at a time.
    In Null shadow you have a 50% change to place a stagger just by blocking.
    His sig places a stagger every x seconds as well.

    This is enough to get you to an SP3 and recycle.

    Still SS have chances to place Staggers. Claire nullifies are guaranteed, if you can't play. Claire buff control is guaranteed while SS is always RNG. I have SS and don't have Claire but I can easily tell that Claire have better buff control than SS. Even Lagacy and Lord Shadow said "She have the best buff control in the mystic class". There is a reason everyone consider Claire and Doom. Because Claire and Doom are always about guaranteed chances. I used SS Against this Aarkus didn't placed a Staggered and destroyed by his SP2.

    While Claire and Doom provide smooth and sustainable fight. Either way this video was for those who were asking how to use Claire against Aarkus.
    Maybe you not having her is causing you to not understand thing. She has THREE guaranteed nullifies. After you use those 3 you are out, in addition you cannot target just the power gains, or the rich get richer will kill you from the other buffs. You have to hit the opponent with an ability they are immune to in order to gain more charges. Since he is not immune to poison, bleed or incinerate your only option to gain more of the guaranteed nullifies is to launch an SP2, which is difficult when you are power locked from the first 3 nullifies, and he he gaining power from the rich get richer node, because you know you run out of those charges.



    Technically SS has an UNLIMITED guaranteed. He starts the fight with a stagger, that removes the first power gain, then you another one every x seconds if you have him awakened, Lastly his SP3 is a guaranteed nullify. those are all guaranteed. Sure the rest are RNG, but there is enough chances to get them either manage him, or to get to the next SP3. You cannot guarantee that with BWCV.

    I have both of them ranked up, and take them both in that battle. I tried with her first, and it is difficult to control because of the RGR node. If the fight did not have a RGR node it would be easier, but still not as easy.
    Not sure why they are giving you all the disagrees - I agree.

    I have Doom sig 200 5R5, BWCV sig 40 5R5 and Symbiote Supreme Sig 20 6r2 . SymS was the best vs Vision Aarkus (I've saved up Thanos Favours and did that day about 8 times this week). Doom was also good but you have to get the stagger on him with a heavy and nullify sp1 first before the fun starts with sp3 cycling, while SymS does the stagger as the fight starts so it's easier to remove his buffs and get the RGR node to help you.

    Doom however can take the sp2 damage better if he does reach to one. BWCV was good, but these two I found were better.

    And I run full suicides and still easily one-shot him with SS & Doom multiple times.
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