Seatin’s Cavalier Difficulty thoughts and my own

124

Comments

  • ThedancingkidThedancingkid Member Posts: 274 ★★
    zeezee57 said:

    If you add up everything I'd accumulate over the course of around a month, I'll take in around 40-50k 6* shards, 4-5 t5b at least, and around a full t5c in frags. That's a considerable amount. Like I said you can't just segregate out the EQ rewards by themselves when thinking about balance

    You do realize how small the percentage of people getting those type of rewards are right? Judging cav rewards based on what the top 1% of players gets throughout the game makes zero sense.
    But then it means the cav rewards make even more of a difference for people further down the tree.

    They’re maybe a bit lower than I expected, but once you add the side quest you’re there or even a little above.

  • DarkSoulDLXDarkSoulDLX Member Posts: 675 ★★★
    It’s horrible - complete overhaul is needed
    Theese Posts are Somewhat Indicative that these rewards need a slight Bump
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Nothing needs to change - the EQ redesign is great!
    zeezee57 said:

    If you add up everything I'd accumulate over the course of around a month, I'll take in around 40-50k 6* shards, 4-5 t5b at least, and around a full t5c in frags. That's a considerable amount. Like I said you can't just segregate out the EQ rewards by themselves when thinking about balance

    You do realize how small the percentage of people getting those type of rewards are right? Judging cav rewards based on what the top 1% of players gets throughout the game makes zero sense.
    They still have to account for those players when putting out rewards in monthly content is my point though. They'll look at what the maximum is that someone is going to earn and then look at averages.

    I'm not saying that a slight increase would be game breaking bc that's absurd. I'm just trying to point out that the entirety of what someone CAN earn over that time has to be taken into account when looking at the rewards.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Nothing needs to change - the EQ redesign is great!
    Mauled said:

    If you add up everything I'd accumulate over the course of around a month, I'll take in around 40-50k 6* shards, 4-5 t5b at least, and around a full t5c in frags. That's a considerable amount. Like I said you can't just segregate out the EQ rewards by themselves when thinking about balance

    That makes me ill 😂 still, that’s what you get when you’re at the top of the tree.



    I think my only gripe is that the differentiation between ch1-3 was pretty negligible except for the Magik quest, which was only considerably worse because the mutant bleed node didn’t work in the way that I think the dev intended.

    Rewards wise, sure I would have liked a bit more - who doesn’t? The 4* objective could have been a selector though as it was pretty tough and would give it that added bit of spice for players around my level - beginning to get close to forming a T5CC and waiting on RNGesus to bless me.
    A few tweaks wouldn't be the end of the world for sure. I do think people are going a bit overboard in saying that they're trash is all.

    I absolutely loved the direction they took with the quest design itself. The tech and mutant nodes were pretty lackluster and Magik was probably rough for some people but overall I think it was a really good step in the right direction.
  • xNigxNig Member Posts: 7,331 ★★★★★
    Nothing needs to change - the EQ redesign is great!
    MikeHock said:

    Cav. rewards are underwhelming and the 4* objective is a bass ackwards way to try & help the player base progress. Use 4* only to get rewards needed to rank up your 6*....but you can’t use those 4* in Act 6 and beyond? Did we fall into bizzaro world?

    You can always use 3*s if you’re not inclined to spend resources on your 4*s. 🤷🏻‍♂️
  • xNigxNig Member Posts: 7,331 ★★★★★
    Nothing needs to change - the EQ redesign is great!
    zeezee57 said:

    If you add up everything I'd accumulate over the course of around a month, I'll take in around 40-50k 6* shards, 4-5 t5b at least, and around a full t5c in frags. That's a considerable amount. Like I said you can't just segregate out the EQ rewards by themselves when thinking about balance

    You do realize how small the percentage of people getting those type of rewards are right? Judging cav rewards based on what the top 1% of players gets throughout the game makes zero sense.
    Even if Kabam bumps up the rewards for Cav, the difference between what the top 1% of players will get and what others will get will still remain the same.
  • This content has been removed.
  • GOTGGOTG Member Posts: 1,040 ★★★★
    Nothing needs to change - the EQ redesign is great!

    GOTG said:

    Mauled said:

    GOTG said:

    Clearly the people that talk about the seatin video havent watched the seatin video. I watched it initially and agreed with most of the points made. And i was very shocked to see the subsequent posts and response video afterwards that were full of things he never said at any point. He said that the content was fun and that for the most part he enjoyed it. The gripe he had was specific champs required and the rewards vs the effort. And i completley agree with both of those points. Theres a reason why more difficult content reaps much better rewards...and the reason he had a gripe with the rewards in the first place was based on what kabam told us in the first place. Rewards were aimed at devolping rosters and ranking up champs......which the rewards really dont do that well. And there are specific champs required to complete certain paths thats just a fact. I am lucky enough to have a very devolped roster so this isnt an issue for me but i know players that have completed most endgame content that STILL dont have the rosters avalible to cope with any scenario. Difficulty was fine for me just buff the rewards to reflect the goals that KABAM told us they were setting out in the first place and make it a bit less champ specific thats it. But overall i would say its a step in the right direction. Just make sure to the people that clearly haven't listened to what Seatin was saying just make sure you understand the point he was making before you bash the guy on the forums.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SjwNhe1smQk

    He said cavalier difficulty is a huge fail, lol, in the title. Say it all.

    He tries hard to destroy our good content. Can't let him succeed this time.
    He’s not destroyed any content. He has voiced his opinion, which to him is that it’s a missed opportunity. He posits that there’s a bit too much niche nodes, some of which don’t really work like the tech and mutant global, and in comparison to recent content the rewards are pretty meh. From an endgame perspective it’s easy and fun - he has all the counters for most of the game so it’s a breeze but this was content aimed at recent cavaliers as well as people who have completed the game.
    He’s essentially arguing that the balance isn’t quite there and that it needs a tweak.

    Also, YouTube is paying his mortgage, he’s not going to title his video ‘Cavalier MEQ was a 7/10’ is he? For the same reason that others block capital ‘beyond god tier damage XYZ’.
    He said it's a massive fail. Which is wrong and overreacting. Simple as that.

    Seatin wants to get money from viewers. He also gets backfired as well.
    Is that literally the only part of the video you watched?
    Watch the whole thing.
    He praised certain stuff about it like how some nodes boost your damage, etc. And generally criticised the rewards.
    Lol, is that all you can do?

    I saw the whole thing and how can I miss interpret his opinions if in the very first minute he criticized EQ very hard, saying it's annoyance, the reward is miserable and keep repeating it throughout the whole video, saying it's really a bad job at most part from Kabam, huge imbalance between effort (what effort?) and rewards, he clearly said that he want it easier because if he felt it too easy he wouldn't say such things with such attitude.

    In short, massive fail as he said in the title. All you should know about his video.

    What I don't like about Seatin is he is easy to be broken and he tries to break people as well. He makes it like he cares about the community but in fact he only cares about himself and try to push his agenda.
  • GOTGGOTG Member Posts: 1,040 ★★★★
    Nothing needs to change - the EQ redesign is great!
    After spending 7 hours to explore cavalier difficulty he cried about the effort. Couldn't understand this guy. Cry baby.
  • GOTGGOTG Member Posts: 1,040 ★★★★
    Nothing needs to change - the EQ redesign is great!
    At the time when 1 millions rating roster becomes a normal things and some is even getting close to 4 millions rating, we are ready to hard and reasonable content. Easy contents makes no sense at all.
  • This content has been removed.
  • GOTGGOTG Member Posts: 1,040 ★★★★
    Nothing needs to change - the EQ redesign is great!

    Some of you guys are kabam fan boys. This EQ is designed bad. It takes around 6 to 8 hours to 100 percent the quest. The rewards Does not justify the time spent doing the quest. You have to have a stacked roster to even do this. This is the reason why stuff in the game won't improve .

    You guys kneel down and take whatever kabam throws and says its great. The cav difficulty needs a rework, the rewards are trash.

    It only proves that you are not ready while I am. Lol.
  • Stagedear85Stagedear85 Member Posts: 774 ★★★
    It’s horrible - complete overhaul is needed
    was waiting until i 100% to state my views on the new difficulty and ill say this for the grind the rewards are trash, do i plan to do Cavalier difficulty again nope ill just stick with uncollected, i do find some of the nodes combination horrible that magik fight thou i was able to solo with quake it sure was poorly design, you cant have a node that gives you credit for playing well but then have a another node that counter that, its like having a node that special attack deals 400% damage but have also have a note that you're power lock after reaching one bar of power and hurtlocker.
  • This content has been removed.
  • BadroseBadrose Member Posts: 779 ★★★
    While I appreciate him for having an immediate look at new contents, Seatin should learn how to play this game and complain less when there is nothing to complain. I had fun with Cavalier difficulty for the first time since... months if not years and that was exactly the same opinion from members of many allies I know. Fun nodes but nothing exremely complicated, if you play well you easily win, if you make mistakes you pay with some items (very few). Rewards... Yeah, maybe we need an increase but not because of the difficulty but because of Kabam's greed. :D
  • xNigxNig Member Posts: 7,331 ★★★★★
    Nothing needs to change - the EQ redesign is great!
    RIP A6.
  • This content has been removed.
  • Disgruntled_User_123Disgruntled_User_123 Member Posts: 1,094 ★★★
    It’s very good - but there needs to be some tweaks as you’ve mentioned above
    War_Bird said:

    GOTG said:

    War_Bird said:

    GOTG said:

    Clearly the people that talk about the seatin video havent watched the seatin video. I watched it initially and agreed with most of the points made. And i was very shocked to see the subsequent posts and response video afterwards that were full of things he never said at any point. He said that the content was fun and that for the most part he enjoyed it. The gripe he had was specific champs required and the rewards vs the effort. And i completley agree with both of those points. Theres a reason why more difficult content reaps much better rewards...and the reason he had a gripe with the rewards in the first place was based on what kabam told us in the first place. Rewards were aimed at devolping rosters and ranking up champs......which the rewards really dont do that well. And there are specific champs required to complete certain paths thats just a fact. I am lucky enough to have a very devolped roster so this isnt an issue for me but i know players that have completed most endgame content that STILL dont have the rosters avalible to cope with any scenario. Difficulty was fine for me just buff the rewards to reflect the goals that KABAM told us they were setting out in the first place and make it a bit less champ specific thats it. But overall i would say its a step in the right direction. Just make sure to the people that clearly haven't listened to what Seatin was saying just make sure you understand the point he was making before you bash the guy on the forums.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SjwNhe1smQk

    He said cavalier difficulty is a huge fail, lol, in the title. Say it all.

    He tries hard to destroy our good content. Can't let him succeed this time.
    HOW DARE HE EXPRESS HIS OPINION ON RHE THE INTERNET!! THATS CLEARLY AGAINST INTERNET LAW!!

    I mean, I don’t really agree with the man myself... but c’mon, let him give his opinion.
    In the last time he expressed his opinions in such way, Kabam collapsed and nerfed act 6 (and maybe act 7 as well) to the core.

    No, it's not simple as you say. He has more followers than any youtuber in the game, if he is wrong, and clearly he is wrong this time, the negative impact is huge. We can't allow this kid cry the wolf this time again.
    Just because he has followers, doesn’t mean he doesn’t have the rights to express his thoughts. That goes for everyone else too. Everyone has a right to put in their opinion, like it or not.
    He’s also not wrong - just look at the poll numbers. The majority of the community agrees with Seatin.
  • slackerslacker Member Posts: 777 ★★★★
    It’s very good - but there needs to be some tweaks as you’ve mentioned above
    C'mon this is the first cavalie eq, everything has it first time right ?, But saying this eq is trash because the reward is bad is not helpful advise to the eq
    Some ppl really obsessed in reward that they don't really care nor enjoy the difficult itself and calling everything in eq is trash, like you want to raise the salary of the job that you don't enjoy doing it
  • Mr_PlatypusMr_Platypus Member Posts: 2,779 ★★★★★
    It’s very good - but there needs to be some tweaks as you’ve mentioned above

    War_Bird said:

    GOTG said:

    War_Bird said:

    GOTG said:

    Clearly the people that talk about the seatin video havent watched the seatin video. I watched it initially and agreed with most of the points made. And i was very shocked to see the subsequent posts and response video afterwards that were full of things he never said at any point. He said that the content was fun and that for the most part he enjoyed it. The gripe he had was specific champs required and the rewards vs the effort. And i completley agree with both of those points. Theres a reason why more difficult content reaps much better rewards...and the reason he had a gripe with the rewards in the first place was based on what kabam told us in the first place. Rewards were aimed at devolping rosters and ranking up champs......which the rewards really dont do that well. And there are specific champs required to complete certain paths thats just a fact. I am lucky enough to have a very devolped roster so this isnt an issue for me but i know players that have completed most endgame content that STILL dont have the rosters avalible to cope with any scenario. Difficulty was fine for me just buff the rewards to reflect the goals that KABAM told us they were setting out in the first place and make it a bit less champ specific thats it. But overall i would say its a step in the right direction. Just make sure to the people that clearly haven't listened to what Seatin was saying just make sure you understand the point he was making before you bash the guy on the forums.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SjwNhe1smQk

    He said cavalier difficulty is a huge fail, lol, in the title. Say it all.

    He tries hard to destroy our good content. Can't let him succeed this time.
    HOW DARE HE EXPRESS HIS OPINION ON RHE THE INTERNET!! THATS CLEARLY AGAINST INTERNET LAW!!

    I mean, I don’t really agree with the man myself... but c’mon, let him give his opinion.
    In the last time he expressed his opinions in such way, Kabam collapsed and nerfed act 6 (and maybe act 7 as well) to the core.

    No, it's not simple as you say. He has more followers than any youtuber in the game, if he is wrong, and clearly he is wrong this time, the negative impact is huge. We can't allow this kid cry the wolf this time again.
    Just because he has followers, doesn’t mean he doesn’t have the rights to express his thoughts. That goes for everyone else too. Everyone has a right to put in their opinion, like it or not.
    He’s also not wrong - just look at the poll numbers. The majority of the community agrees with Seatin.
    To be fair, the majority of "the community" is pretty stupid and if what they wanted was actually done most of the time this game would have died years ago
    To be fair, if the rewards were better this poll would look completely different. The quests design was a solid 8/10 with points being lost because the tech global didn’t do anything and mutant global being bugged. My only issue with it is that the rewards are pretty meh.
  • Mr_PlatypusMr_Platypus Member Posts: 2,779 ★★★★★
    It’s very good - but there needs to be some tweaks as you’ve mentioned above

    Some of you guys are kabam fan boys. This EQ is designed bad. It takes around 6 to 8 hours to 100 percent the quest. The rewards Does not justify the time spent doing the quest. You have to have a stacked roster to even do this. This is the reason why stuff in the game won't improve .

    You guys kneel down and take whatever kabam throws and says its great. The cav difficulty needs a rework, the rewards are trash.


    Please, tell us what needs reworking about the quest? But also bare in mind, if you want the nodes gone, they’re going to have to increase the healthpools, and if you want the health pools reduced they’re going to have to add more restricting nodes. Now with that in mind, please share your ideas with us.
  • _Reef_Reef Member Posts: 267
    It’s very good - but there needs to be some tweaks as you’ve mentioned above

    Maybe put the rewards back to the old way and make the easy path actually easy for new cavalier players.
    That would be great.

    I agree, easy path on 1.2 maybe disstrack on 2/3 fights not all of em, thats literally my roadblock, i have the champs and skill for everything else
  • This content has been removed.
  • This content has been removed.
Sign In or Register to comment.