Changes to Defense Tactics for Season 21

Kabam Boo

Summoners!

As Season 20 comes to a close, it’s time to make some more updates to Defense Tactics for the next season of Alliance Wars!

Reducing the Pool

We’re bringing the pool of selectable tactics down to 3. We’ll be removing Bulwark and Siphon. Protect, Stubborn, and Flow will remain.

Updates to Attacker Bonuses

Protect

Currently, the attacker portion of Protect is: If the Attacker is #Size: L or #Size: XL, they gain an Unstoppable Passive for 3 second(s) whenever the Defender is knocked down.

This is being changed completely. The updated functionality and description will be: If the Attacker is #Size: L or #Size: XL knocking down a #Size: L or #Size: XL Defender will remove any protection charges active on them.

Stubborn

Currently, the attacker portion of Stubborn is: If the Attacker is #Defensive, their Well-Timed Blocks grant them 15% Perfect Block chance for 10 second(s), stacking up to 2 time(s).

Another dramatic change, the updated functionality and description will be: If the Attacker is #Defensive, their Well-Timed Blocks will grant them a Destructible charge. When a #Defensive attacker dodges a hit from a #Defensive defender the Defender does not gain an indestructible passive and one Destructible charge is removed. Consuming a Destructible charge by dodging a special hit will stop the attacker from gaining Indestructible Passive from Stubborn for the duration of the attack.

These changes go live tomorrow, Wednesday, September 16th and Alliance War Season 21 kicks off on Wednesday, September 30th!

Horror_punk

Seems little less harsh treatment of Stubborn

Lvernon15

Glad to see stubborn toned down, think it’ll actually be somewhat close for stubborn and flow now as the top tactic

StevieManWonder

Good change to Stubborn!

Octoberstack

Is there any limit to how many times a #Defensive Attacker can stack Destructible charges?

QuikPik

Now someone explain in English

CoatHang3r

Is there a cap on destructible charges? Ngl will miss that PB chance.

Lvernon15

QuikPik said:

Now someone explain in English

It’s in English, not that hard to understand

A_NAZ

Octoberstack said:

Is there any limit to how many times a #Defensive Attacker can stack Destructible charges?

I second this question.

Worknprogress

CoatHang3r said:

Is there a cap on destructible charges? Ngl will miss that PB chance.

Yeah. Turned Capiw into an even bigger tank

Kill_Grey

Worknprogress said:

CoatHang3r said:

Is there a cap on destructible charges? Ngl will miss that PB chance.

Yeah. Turned Capiw into an even bigger tank

That's not what he meant, lol

CoatHang3r

Kill_Grey said:

Worknprogress said:

CoatHang3r said:

Is there a cap on destructible charges? Ngl will miss that PB chance.

Yeah. Turned Capiw into an even bigger tank

That's not what he meant, lol

Nah that’s pretty much what I meant; with the second sentence. 30% Pb was super useful to me when you need to block for certain nodes and defenders.

BowTieJohn

Hoping this season will go better than the previous 20 seasons.

Deacon

here's a thought although i like the changes ... why not just get rid of defense tactics all together. they cause more stress than necessary on alliances.

Pizzabeat

Kill_Grey said:

Worknprogress said:

CoatHang3r said:

Is there a cap on destructible charges? Ngl will miss that PB chance.

Yeah. Turned Capiw into an even bigger tank

That's not what he meant, lol

Did you think he was talking about peanut butter?

Etjama

I've never worked with Defensive Tactics, but I'm glad to Kabam's taking action on toning down Stubborn. Seemed like real BS.

danielmath

DeaconVelvet said:

here's a thought although i like the changes ... why not just get rid of defense tactics all together. they cause more stress than necessary on alliances.

then the top alliances will have a lot of wars that are 0-0, 1-0, etc.

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CoatHang3r

danielmath said:

DeaconVelvet said:

here's a thought although i like the changes ... why not just get rid of defense tactics all together. they cause more stress than necessary on alliances.

then the top alliances will have a lot of wars that are 0-0, 1-0, etc.

Oh they can stop that pretty easy by limiting consumables based on war tier.

Greywarden

Can you stack destructible charges or is there a cap?

Arifutera

CoatHang3r said:

danielmath said:

DeaconVelvet said:

here's a thought although i like the changes ... why not just get rid of defense tactics all together. they cause more stress than necessary on alliances.

then the top alliances will have a lot of wars that are 0-0, 1-0, etc.

Oh they can stop that pretty easy by limiting consumables based on war tier.

CoatHang3r said:

danielmath said:

DeaconVelvet said:

here's a thought although i like the changes ... why not just get rid of defense tactics all together. they cause more stress than necessary on alliances.

then the top alliances will have a lot of wars that are 0-0, 1-0, etc.

Oh they can stop that pretty easy by limiting consumables based on war tier.

Then kabam loses some revenue from aw and that will affect the game eventually, we don't want that to happen, do we?

CoatHang3r

Arifutera said:

CoatHang3r said:

danielmath said:

DeaconVelvet said:

here's a thought although i like the changes ... why not just get rid of defense tactics all together. they cause more stress than necessary on alliances.

then the top alliances will have a lot of wars that are 0-0, 1-0, etc.

Oh they can stop that pretty easy by limiting consumables based on war tier.

CoatHang3r said:

danielmath said:

DeaconVelvet said:

here's a thought although i like the changes ... why not just get rid of defense tactics all together. they cause more stress than necessary on alliances.

then the top alliances will have a lot of wars that are 0-0, 1-0, etc.

Oh they can stop that pretty easy by limiting consumables based on war tier.

Then kabam loses some revenue from aw and that will affect the game eventually, we don't want that to happen, do we?

It would be likely to actually increase revenue in that area as premium consumables would be more valuable to those players.

So there we go limit consumables based on tier and it’s good for the game. Thanks for your support.

CoatHang3r

gsil6374 said:

For you people who do AW, is this change good or bad? I haven't done alliance wars in a while so I wouldn't know.

IMO, it isn’t player positive and I’m pretty confused by people saying it tones down stubborn.

Don’t see how when a modifier that forces blocking, removes the chance to make those required blocks do no damage is a positive thing. Not to mention the lost value to defensive attackers in non stubborn fights that helps get them to the stubborn fights.

danielmath

CoatHang3r said:

gsil6374 said:

For you people who do AW, is this change good or bad? I haven't done alliance wars in a while so I wouldn't know.

IMO, it isn’t player positive and I’m pretty confused by people saying it tones down stubborn.

Don’t see how when a modifier that forces blocking, removes the chance to make those required blocks do no damage is a positive thing. Not to mention the lost value to defensive attackers in non stubborn fights that helps get them to the stubborn fights.

it's just another nerf to the tactic, it'll make war easier and lower item use

CoatHang3r

danielmath said:

CoatHang3r said:

gsil6374 said:

For you people who do AW, is this change good or bad? I haven't done alliance wars in a while so I wouldn't know.

IMO, it isn’t player positive and I’m pretty confused by people saying it tones down stubborn.

Don’t see how when a modifier that forces blocking, removes the chance to make those required blocks do no damage is a positive thing. Not to mention the lost value to defensive attackers in non stubborn fights that helps get them to the stubborn fights.

it's just another nerf to the tactic, it'll make war easier and lower item use

Explain please, there is no context to that statement.

How is it a nerf?
How does it make war easier?
How does it lower item use?

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WHOz_R4GE

Outside of CAIW Doom Void NF this is a minimal nerf at best. The majority of highly used AW attackers won’t benefit from this change at all.

KingKevin

Is the perfect block chance on stubborn being removed or is the new ability being adding in conjunction with perfect block?

danielmath

CoatHang3r said:

danielmath said:

CoatHang3r said:

gsil6374 said:

For you people who do AW, is this change good or bad? I haven't done alliance wars in a while so I wouldn't know.

IMO, it isn’t player positive and I’m pretty confused by people saying it tones down stubborn.

Don’t see how when a modifier that forces blocking, removes the chance to make those required blocks do no damage is a positive thing. Not to mention the lost value to defensive attackers in non stubborn fights that helps get them to the stubborn fights.

it's just another nerf to the tactic, it'll make war easier and lower item use

Explain please, there is no context to that statement.

How is it a nerf?
How does it make war easier?
How does it lower item use?

are you being sarcastic?

Werewrym

To be honest I kind of enjoyed having that BP... It’s such an overpowered stat in the game.

Deacon

cl41776 said:

Why not just do the smart thing and start over from scratch? This game mode sucks more and more with each passing season. Doesn’t help that your servers still can’t guarantee a stable connection just to get into, through and finish AW fights.

they are actually. they've already said they plan on revamping war completely. not sure the time frame but the plan is to completely change it ala dungeons > incursions.