Well....I have a 6R2 black widows deadly origin (BWDO) and I played her quite a few, in the past....here is my thought on her: She is really fun to play and her damage is decent (when shock debuff can be applied correctly). I would say, in a right scenario, that shock debuff make her damage just unbelievably great.
However, the restriction of this black widow is also from this almost-guaranteed Shock debuff: First, you can’t deny that players need to think about the utilities of a champ before bringing this champ into a quest, particular endgame contents or monthly quest with Cavalier difficulty. When we are talking about a Skill champ, we usually talking about taking this skill champ to counter some annoying Science champs, like Human Torch, Thing, Electro, MODOK, Spidey, Void, Spider Gwen, Spider Mike Morales, Wasp, etc., or even more other non-Science Champs.
Then let’s see how BWDO against aforementioned Science Champs: vs. Human Torch——She will instantly get red by HT’s incinerate debuff due to her Energy Damage with Shock debuff; vs. Thing——Her damage is largely reduced because Thing is immune to Shock debuff; vs. Electro——Her damage is also largely reduced because Electro won’t take any damage from Shock. Meanwhile, Electro gain power from the Shock debuff, making the scenario even worse; vs. MODOK——well, just a common fight with class advantage, nothing special; vs. Wasp/Spidey/Spider Gwen/Spider MM——same as MODOK, she is a Miss counter, but not an Evade counter; vs. Void——Just like fighting other opponents who are not immune to shock. Her damage is decent, but this cannot make her become a priority for this fight as many other Skill champs can hit hard as she does, plus tons of other utilities.
Then, let’s compare BWDO with other top Skill champs (Nick Fury/Blade/Aegon/SS/Elsa Bloodstone/KillMonger), particularly for the fights I mentioned above: vs. Human Torch: Blade/NF can trigger Bleed debuff, making the duration of incinerate much shorter; vs. Thing: similarly, Blade and NF can “bleed” Thing (I know he is immune to bleed), making the rock stack “well-controlled”, which is also important to control the rhythm of fight; SS can apply Slow debuff on Thing, simply making Thing’s unstoppable vanished; vs. Electro: The danger sense of Blade (paired with GR) can reduced Ability Accuracy of Electro by 40%, making him have less chance to take damage from Electro’s Shock recoil; meanwhile, Blade’s danger sense almost double his attack rating, making the fight so easy; besides, even though Blade cannot 100% avoid Shock recoil from Electro, he has an insane regeneration if he is awakened. vs. Wasp/Spider-Universe Champs: Kill Monger, Elsa Bloodstone, NF and SS are all great evade counters, period. vs. Void/MODOK: similar to Electro fight, blade’s danger sense greatly boosts his attack rating.
Apart from fighting those Science champs, Blade’s danger sense makes him a top seed to against several annoying mystic and villain champs like Magik, Dormammu, Mephisto, Terrax, Dr. Doom, Magneto (particularly after buffed), Sentinal, Kill Monger, Mojo, Akt-Walker, Mysterio, Storm Pyramid X, Annihilus, Mordo, Red Skull, Green Goblin, Ultron....; NF’s great team synergies and “real NF phase” making him just decent for almost every quest team; Aegon with high combo# is the No.1 units-saver for long quest like LOL or Abyss, no doubt.
So, back to my statement in the very beginning: BWDO is fun to play. If you love this character, please rank her up and bring her to quest.....
——Then you will notice that there are so many fights she cannot deal with.....🤷🏾♂️
In terms of overall ranking, putting her with Elsa Bloodstone and Killmonger in a same tier is reasonable. Sometime I even think Elsa Bloodstone is better than her.
Blade just falls short against those bleed immune villians though, not to mention he is heavily reliant on the deep wound masteries that not everyone may have. I just don't see the need to bring him into endgame content with his "deadweight trinity" (I love Starky still but not so much GR) when you could bring in only BWDO and get the content done without only facing villians. Yes BWDO benefits a decent amount from her Red Guardian synergy, but it isn't exactly needed. There were a lot of unfair comparisons in your post because you pitted BWDO's weaknesses against other character's strengths. Why not compare each champions strength's or weaknesses even?You failed to mention any matchups where she does in fact crush the opponent such as miss abilities or nodes like tunnel vision. There aren't very many shock immune champions in the game yet meaning she could be used in an average fight and her sabotage debuffs can greatly increase her node countering potential. By using an sp1 or bringing in Red Guardian (better than bringing Taskmaster I can tell you that), counter evading places one 20% aar sabotage debuff, while her sp3 places another one. Striking the opponent pauses these debuffs allowing for a pretty long uptime based on your skill level. Just hammering away at an opponent with these debuffs up and ending your combo with mediums makes for a less stressful time. Her quirky utility when heavy countering can make for some clutch moments when you need to push an opponent over a certain threshold. Nick and Aegon are honestly in another level utilization-wise so it's pretty unfair to compare her to those overpowered gods of the skill class.
Edit: I noticed that you said you had a 6* BWDO. Does she happen to be awakened? BWDO relies a lot on her sig ability to be any useful, with it needing at least a sig level of 60 or so.
I love BWDO! I pulled her from a featured crystal after I did v5 and took her up immediately to r5 before I ever played her at all. I was worried after I ranked her up that I wouldn't like her, but nope, I love her. So much fun to play and she has great damage.
i've been using her more and more and more .. so smooth to play and that shock damage can be bananas! not to mention she's the only champ that i intercept perfectly with lol
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Edit: I noticed that you said you had a 6* BWDO. Does she happen to be awakened? BWDO relies a lot on her sig ability to be any useful, with it needing at least a sig level of 60 or so.
Fury (very close here)
Stealthy
Blade
Elsa
After that, it's a close match for the other spots