ARENA CHANGES!!! Give it a chance.

Fallguy17_

I personally love the new system. The AI is aggressive enough to deal with higher pi matches. Its not a boring match after equal match. The best improvement in years. I can grab a team of r1 5*s and start playing with no worries of facing a 51k pi team. I hate that it is being changed back so soon because people cant adapt to a new system and pattern. BTW any noob could start playing arenas now and have good success if they have any skill at all. Great Job KABAM!!!!!

Thicco_Mode

I do like how you can use r1s but using r3/4 5* is a pain

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1. The proposed reversion by Mcoc Team will keep the AI aggressive as is. Suppose there will be no more standing at corner and hold block.
2. Some players are facing a situation whereas they are using 5*r3 but the opponent team are 6*r3 in featured. If every match are 6*r3 Doom+NF+Omega, sooner or later your team can’t sustain.
3. Many players also expressed that death matches may not be an issue, as long as you offer choice for players to avoid, not 3 death matchup options without choice.

Btw, Your post will be merged into Arena Feedback Threads soon.

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CoatHang3r

@DoubleDelta you’re off base, in the old system my r2 5s fought r2 5s, you just need to understand the formula so you can build your r2 teams to not trigger a death match.

The new system punishes people for ranking up their champions. If it stayed I might start begging for the opportunity to sell my 5 star champions so I could run r1 easy matches instead of 2x matches with every champion in my roster who is not within 1 of the max rank possible.

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CoatHang3r

Sorry you spent 2 days planning on that, I’ve spent years.

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CoatHang3r

DoubleDelta said:

When changes are reverted.. ill post the same picture. See the difference in match ups.

No need we already know. I’ll gladly take being able to run my roster in a timely manner than being able to run the bottom of it on top of the rest. But when it comes to a developed roster there is no bottom so it’s 100% difficult matches against repeats of the same champion.

O_Deadpool_O

I think players who protect new system are payed Kabam players. I cannot understand why they like this new system because it is awful. It would be OK to fight with 5*3/45 against 5*4/55 or with 5* 2/35 against 5* 3/45. But there are a lot of screenshots when people with 5* 2/35 get an opponent with 6* 2/35 or higher.

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Thicco_Mode

DoubleDelta said:

When changes are reverted.. ill post the same picture. See the difference in match ups.

it's so much faster to run our top champs than all of our low champs. it doesn't matter if we can use every champ if it takes so much longer to get the same points

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Anghel_2403 said:

The applicants who really play arenas I think they loved this new system, we had the possibility of using rank 1 equipment without having to deal with the death teams and now due to the complaints of some noobs we have to go back to score less points, a totally unnecessary change

The game is for all players. As for me, arena is the content where I can have some rest. But now each fight is the long nightmare. I have 6 act, variants, cavalier difficulty, AW, AQ to play hard. I do not want one more hard content.
Also, I would like to fight with different enemies, not only with Omega, Doom and Thing, especially 6* 3/45 max sig.

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Anghel_2403 said:

The applicants who really play arenas I think they loved this new system, we had the possibility of using rank 1 equipment without having to deal with the death teams and now due to the complaints of some noobs we have to go back to score less points, a totally unnecessary change

Could not be more wrong.

I grind heavy and have huge ranked up roster and now I have to fight 3/45 every match with r1 6* champs. I don’t lose but it takes much longer and have to concentrate whereas before could just watch tv and play easy

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Lormif

CoatHang3r said:

@DoubleDelta you’re off base, in the old system my r2 5s fought r2 5s, you just need to understand the formula so you can build your r2 teams to not trigger a death match.

The new system punishes people for ranking up their champions. If it stayed I might start begging for the opportunity to sell my 5 star champions so I could run r1 easy matches instead of 2x matches with every champion in my roster who is not within 1 of the max rank possible.

that "formula" was not an official part of the game.

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Lormif said:

CoatHang3r said:

@DoubleDelta you’re off base, in the old system my r2 5s fought r2 5s, you just need to understand the formula so you can build your r2 teams to not trigger a death match.

The new system punishes people for ranking up their champions. If it stayed I might start begging for the opportunity to sell my 5 star champions so I could run r1 easy matches instead of 2x matches with every champion in my roster who is not within 1 of the max rank possible.

that "formula" was not an official part of the game.

False, the formula was posted by miike, search for a 4x team and when it doesn’t return a result issue a like rated team.

Midknight007

DoubleDelta said:

What was that about sandbagging doesnt work?

dude the guy I stated that to did 2 r3 and 1 r5, the direct opposite of what you did

Midknight007

@DoubleDelta and I agree with you that the matches don’t take that much longer really. It is not like the people you are fighting are on nodes like in AW. Occasionally you might get a tough fight out of three when you have an unbalanced team. If you don’t mind losing one, you can have an easier two fights. But if someone attempts to sandbag with two lower ranks and one high level, you are putting yourself in a bad position. From what I can tell, after 25 matches you can push 30k and up and not really get a 2x squad... if you run 6* with high pi R4 5* you could be fine.

I don’t mind the 2x teams and find it a fair challenge. Kind of around Act 5 difficulty or later Epic EQ.

Underpar69

The changes are perfect regarding the AI being more aggressive! But the matchmaking part is awful! Death matches galore. Streak 16 after loosing the initial run to death match after reaching 8 mill with original streak. Ran into 3 R3 6 stars maxed out. A bit silly really. This was the easiest option I could choose with the Rank 3 Aegon. But this what people are complaining about

Blaine_94

I like new system too, I didn't find so many difficult. I found some hard fight and "infinite streak" doesn't work like before, but I think this system is very less boring than the old one. Honestly with new AI I enjoyed the "hardest" matches. I don't understand why if some players complain about it for 2 days they have to change back the system. Many players are complaining for 2 months about Cavalier EQ rewards but they didn't change

Underpar69

Another example, I got through that

Mathstadon

Who actually enjoys the actual fights of arenas?? I’m seeing people say the fights are more challenging and “NoT BoRiNg”... arena is about getting as many points as possible in the quickest amount of time allotted you’re not supposed to enjoy the fights you arena noobs defending this new system because it’s your first time playing lmao

Robby199696

Why are people complaining about 6 star r1s and 5/65s vs r3 6 stars? It’s completely fair with the changes to the AI and more points than you used to get

Yodabolt21

Changing it back benefits the end game players who have crazy big rosters and can get to a streak of 60+ rather easily.

All the change is going to do is give more end gamers featured 5*s while most of us have. I chance to get without spending a ton of units.

Thicco_Mode

Robby199696 said:

Why are people complaining about 6 star r1s and 5/65s vs r3 6 stars? It’s completely fair with the changes to the AI and more points than you used to get

because it's simply faster and more efficient with the old system

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Yodabolt21 said:

Changing it back benefits the end game players who have crazy big rosters and can get to a streak of 60+ rather easily.

All the change is going to do is give more end gamers featured 5*s while most of us have. I chance to get without spending a ton of units.

I don’t quite get your logic. Under the old system, I can ignore death match up to a team of two 5*r2 plus one 5*r1......basically I can use my entire 5* team (over 150) under old system. Under the new system, I start to face death match from streak of 30s and 5*r3 team.

More ppl can get featured 5* under the new system? I don’t get it. Kabam relaxed the bar from top 150 to top 300 and it won’t change even using the old system. The competition for top tier is fierce and this 300 places can be filled easily no matter new or old system.

GroundedWisdom

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Yodabolt21 said:

Changing it back benefits the end game players who have crazy big rosters and can get to a streak of 60+ rather easily.

All the change is going to do is give more end gamers featured 5*s while most of us have. I chance to get without spending a ton of units.

I don’t quite get your logic. Under the old system, I can ignore death match up to a team of two 5*r2 plus one 5*r1......basically I can use my entire 5* team (over 150) under old system. Under the new system, I start to face death match from streak of 30s and 5*r3 team.

More ppl can get featured 5* under the new system? I don’t get it. Kabam relaxed the bar from top 150 to top 300 and it won’t change even using the old system. The competition for top tier is fierce and this 300 places can be filled easily no matter new or old system.

I have to agree with this. If anything, the new system means less Champs used.