Please explain how Colossus is better than Omega and Mags.
Are we going off with best synergys or the champ by themself?
Go ahead and give him all the best synergies. He still doesn't have the utility to be compared to OR, Mags, and AA.
Im sorry but he does. I'd say he's tied with OR overrall.
He doesn't. He really doesn't. He has high damage, armor ups, and immunities. OR has immunities, regen, high dps, he ignores passpassive damage, 100% purify AAR, and power control. There's a reason people use him like crazy in T1 AW. Anyone with an OR gets assigned a stupid amount of fights.
Case for why colussus is tied with Omega Red. Extremely tanky makes block damage almost zero. Extremely good damage for long fights like LoL and AoL somewhere Omega doesn't shine that much. Now immunity are huge and he can get 72% poison resistant with Prof X max cerebro charges. And pair him with funny enough Omega red both champs become even better.Bad matchups for colussus are any champ that easily nullify buffs like sym Supreme and doctor strange. I do agree that Omega red is better for fights that are in the 300k to 500k range. So hence why I said its tied IMO
Case for why colussus is tied with Omega Red. Extremely tanky makes block damage almost zero. Extremely good damage for long fights like LoL and AoL somewhere Omega doesn't shine that much. Now immunity are huge and he can get 72% poison resistant with Prof X max cerebro charges. And pair him with funny enough Omega red both champs become even better.Bad matchups for colussus are any champ that easily nullify buffs like sym Supreme and doctor strange. I do agree that Omega red is better for fights that are in the 300k to 500k range. So hence why I said its tied IMO
It's not. OR ignores most node and champ combos in the game while Colossus is useful when you need an immunity or a Havok counter.
Case for why colussus is tied with Omega Red. Extremely tanky makes block damage almost zero. Extremely good damage for long fights like LoL and AoL somewhere Omega doesn't shine that much. Now immunity are huge and he can get 72% poison resistant with Prof X max cerebro charges. And pair him with funny enough Omega red both champs become even better.Bad matchups for colussus are any champ that easily nullify buffs like sym Supreme and doctor strange. I do agree that Omega red is better for fights that are in the 300k to 500k range. So hence why I said its tied IMO
It's not. OR ignores most node and champ combos in the game while Colossus is useful when you need an immunity or a Havok counter.
Still doesn't convince me that OR is better then Colussus.
We just had a thread exactly like this. Somehow, the majority of the forum community doesn't think it's the man that almost has as much utility as Ghost and Quake and can melt 600k healthpools like it's nothing. Mags destroys metal champs, yes. OR destroys everything that's not a robot. The fact that most say Mags is the best Mutant is just ridiculous and I'm not scared of the disagrees.
I completely agree with this. I love magneto in all but omega is just so good.
AA or OR i picked AA becuase i have him but i have played on my friends account with his maxed out OR and i have to say he is OP, i never got why Collosus is that good, and red mags is good but i wouldn't say he's as good as AA or OR
How is Colossus not up here? It’s between him and Mags. I love OR but he’s above average without suicides. Mags and Colossus are God Tier with or without suicides.
And if you are in endgame content Mags fully counters almost every metal champ in the game now
Another one asleep at the wheel with Colossus !!!!
I have AA, Omega , Magneto, and Colossus at r5 , high sig... They are all so powerful.
Colossus has the unique combo of immunities with redic damage which allows him to be used the most widely, and dominate. Omega and Emma synergies are just icing on the cake. I am still missing emma but when I throw the 4* on for monthly questing, etc its unreal how easy it is to get to that sp2. With that combo I believe he is the best and easiest to dominate with. Making him my choice.
Alone without those synergies I cannot pick a winner.
AA is what Magneto is to metal champs to non immune champs. Just complete domination when fighting the entire "group" of champs. Its insane how good they are. Both have their limitations though but they are very minor and are at the very top for sure.
Omega Red requires the most and for that I think he is penalized, mine is sig200 and run suicides so he's amazing but its a huge investment.
You can argue all 4. If I had to pick 1 to use everyday it would be Colossus but the 4 of them are def at the top.
Please explain how Colossus is better than Omega and Mags.
Colossus is Triple immune, viable Abyss level damage output, doesn’t require suicides, and not reliant on his SPs to access the insane damage. Plus insanely tankable so he can eat damage that wipes the other 2... you know if a fight lasts past 20 hits with him
I have all 3 as R5s, with OR and Colossus at Max sig. it’s one of my favorite synergy teams to run. But due to the need to run suicides or be on a Bleed node for maximum damage OR gets the least play.
Please explain how Colossus is better than Omega and Mags.
Are we going off with best synergys or the champ by themself?
Go ahead and give him all the best synergies. He still doesn't have the utility to be compared to OR, Mags, and AA.
I have all 4 and Collosus is in my attack team more than all the others , he may not dominate any one specific area like others but he is a beast. His immunity combo and damage makes him arguably the best. I doubt you've used a high sig colossus with omega and emma.
Again, so what if OR needs suicides to reach his peak? It doesn't change the fact that he is the best. He can handle the most. If you can only bring in 1 Mutant for Act 6 exploration, or high tier AW, you're tripping if you don't bring in OR.
Please explain how Colossus is better than Omega and Mags.
Are we going off with best synergys or the champ by themself?
Go ahead and give him all the best synergies. He still doesn't have the utility to be compared to OR, Mags, and AA.
I have all 4 and Collosus is in my attack team more than all the others , he may not dominate any one specific area like others but he is a beast. His immunity combo and damage makes him arguably the best. I doubt you've used a high sig colossus with omega and emma.
Big numbers aren't everything. OR can finish so, so many fights faster than Colossus, but no one talks about OR's damage cause it doesn't come with the big yellow numbers. Plus Omega has far, FAR superior utility which is what really matters here. There's a reason Colossus is barely used in T1 War or in very hard/niche fights in Act 6 exploration.
Guys let's give these threads a break, they get @Etjama all wound up 😉
I like debating, especially with the people that value the, "Ooh, ah, big yellow numbers" factor over the, "I can do anything in this game because this champ has insane utility combined" factor.
Guys let's give these threads a break, they get @Etjama all wound up 😉
I like debating, especially with the people that value the, "Ooh, ah, big yellow numbers" factor over the, "I can do anything in this game because this champ has insane utility combined" factor.
I know, I agree with everything you are saying. I just enjoy watching you taking on everyone else 😂
Guys let's give these threads a break, they get @Etjama all wound up 😉
I like debating, especially with the people that value the, "Ooh, ah, big yellow numbers" factor over the, "I can do anything in this game because this champ has insane utility combined" factor.
I know, I agree with everything you are saying. I just enjoy watching you taking on everyone else 😂
Why is it always me against the world? Everyone abandons me. 😂
Guys let's give these threads a break, they get @Etjama all wound up 😉
I like debating, especially with the people that value the, "Ooh, ah, big yellow numbers" factor over the, "I can do anything in this game because this champ has insane utility combined" factor.
I know, I agree with everything you are saying. I just enjoy watching you taking on everyone else 😂
Why is it always me against the world? Everyone abandons me. 😂
I would join in to help you if I wasn't busy procrastinating from writing my english essay.
Guys let's give these threads a break, they get @Etjama all wound up 😉
I like debating, especially with the people that value the, "Ooh, ah, big yellow numbers" factor over the, "I can do anything in this game because this champ has insane utility combined" factor.
I know, I agree with everything you are saying. I just enjoy watching you taking on everyone else 😂
Why is it always me against the world? Everyone abandons me. 😂
I would join in to help you if I wasn't busy procrastinating from writing my english essay.
This is the kind of stuff I do during my procrastination time.
Magneto decimates metal champions utterly, and his ability accuracy reduction cannot be underestimated. Also, I see many people say he doesn't need to be awakened, but his heavy attack hits SO much harder when he is.
He also destroys non-metal champions, although that's obviously not his niche.
Omega Red is better vs non-metal champions, but he doesn't have as powerful a niche as Magneto does. I love both champions, I have both champions, but it was Magneto that I decided to take to R3 as a 6*, and I don't regret it.
Again, so what if OR needs suicides to reach his peak? It doesn't change the fact that he is the best. He can handle the most. If you can only bring in 1 Mutant for Act 6 exploration, or high tier AW, you're tripping if you don't bring in OR.
Easy answer you nuder your roster with suicides when you have other champs that might do OR does on those nodes with access to spamming specials but better than he does it and changing masteries is a mixture of annoying and costly. I think you too easily dismiss that as a con to OR. It’s not about big yellow numbers alone
Please explain how Colossus is better than Omega and Mags.
Colossus is Triple immune, viable Abyss level damage output, doesn’t require suicides, and not reliant on his SPs to access the insane damage. Plus insanely tankable so he can eat damage that wipes the other 2... you know if a fight lasts past 20 hits with him
I have all 3 as R5s, with OR and Colossus at Max sig. it’s one of my favorite synergy teams to run. But due to the need to run suicides or be on a Bleed node for maximum damage OR gets the least play.
He actually is quite reliant on sp2 to build up armors
Guys let's give these threads a break, they get @Etjama all wound up 😉
I like debating, especially with the people that value the, "Ooh, ah, big yellow numbers" factor over the, "I can do anything in this game because this champ has insane utility combined" factor.
I know, I agree with everything you are saying. I just enjoy watching you taking on everyone else 😂
Why is it always me against the world? Everyone abandons me. 😂
I like eating popcorn not getting my hands dirty with tears
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1) Main damage comes from death spores, death field, degen allowing him to bypass nodes like Rage.
2) Bleed resistance is arguably more valuable than a regular bleed immunity for will-power regen, etc.
3) Synergises with suicides much better than Colossus
4) The ability of Omega to bypass damage back on tentacle hits is fantastic piece of utility and is easily accessible
5) Regen and survivability is great. An small but easily accessible regen of the sp1 and a massive regen of sp3 which includes a valuable power drain
6)(personal opinion) I find his animations and play style much smoother and faster which helps in intercepting, dexing,etc.
And if you are in endgame content Mags fully counters almost every metal champ in the game now
I have AA, Omega , Magneto, and Colossus at r5 , high sig... They are all so powerful.
Colossus has the unique combo of immunities with redic damage which allows him to be used the most widely, and dominate. Omega and Emma synergies are just icing on the cake. I am still missing emma but when I throw the 4* on for monthly questing, etc its unreal how easy it is to get to that sp2. With that combo I believe he is the best and easiest to dominate with. Making him my choice.
Alone without those synergies I cannot pick a winner.
AA is what Magneto is to metal champs to non immune champs. Just complete domination when fighting the entire "group" of champs. Its insane how good they are. Both have their limitations though but they are very minor and are at the very top for sure.
Omega Red requires the most and for that I think he is penalized, mine is sig200 and run suicides so he's amazing but its a huge investment.
You can argue all 4. If I had to pick 1 to use everyday it would be Colossus but the 4 of them are def at the top.
Colossus is Triple immune, viable Abyss level damage output, doesn’t require suicides, and not reliant on his SPs to access the insane damage. Plus insanely tankable so he can eat damage that wipes the other 2... you know if a fight lasts past 20 hits with him
I have all 3 as R5s, with OR and Colossus at Max sig. it’s one of my favorite synergy teams to run. But due to the need to run suicides or be on a Bleed node for maximum damage OR gets the least play.
He also destroys non-metal champions, although that's obviously not his niche.
Omega Red is better vs non-metal champions, but he doesn't have as powerful a niche as Magneto does. I love both champions, I have both champions, but it was Magneto that I decided to take to R3 as a 6*, and I don't regret it.