Ronin discussion

Christoskiller

I got a 6* ronin and all i see in forums is..i love ronin, he is underated etc.

I really dont see and understand what he can do can someone help me bc i like to rank up different champs and my first rank 3 6* will be killmonger or ronin.! Thanks whatever

Crcrcrc

@Masterpuff

Masterpuff

My spirit thread.
I have a 6* R3 Ronin and a 5/65 Ronin. He is easily my favorite champion, and is criminally underrated. Im converting people though.

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/174021/ronin#latest

This contains a guide of mine. I also have some videos on him, mostly just messing around.

Here is just some damage: https://youtu.be/ce0ouyBmrtQ

Gonna bookmark this thread to discuss!

SpideyFunko

@Rockypantherx

he’s gotta decide Killmonger or Ronin

Christoskiller

@Masterpuff is this video with some crazy synergy or something?

Masterpuff

SpideyFunko said:

Rockypantherx

he’s gotta decide Killmonger or Ronin

This is actually a tough one for me. Killmonger has more utility and Ronin has wayy more damage. Hard to tell.

SpideyFunko

Masterpuff said:

SpideyFunko said:

Rockypantherx

he’s gotta decide Killmonger or Ronin

This is actually a tough one for me. Killmonger has more utility and Ronin has wayy more damage. Hard to tell.

you understand I must go Killmonger right? I like ronin, but my rank 4 Killmonger (and the six star) are great lane clearers. Such a tank, and utility for days

Masterpuff

Christoskiller said:

@Masterpuff is this video with some crazy synergy or something?

Hehehe no synergies of substantial meaning.

Masterpuff

SpideyFunko said:

Masterpuff said:

SpideyFunko said:

Rockypantherx

he’s gotta decide Killmonger or Ronin

This is actually a tough one for me. Killmonger has more utility and Ronin has wayy more damage. Hard to tell.

you understand I must go Killmonger right? I like ronin, but my rank 4 Killmonger (and the six star) are great lane clearers. Such a tank, and utility for days

Well Ronin is definitely better, i think if both are duped im going Killmonger, but unduped Ronin. Yes. Alert the medias, i admitted a skill is 3rd above Ronin when Duped.

Christoskiller

Haha

Christoskiller

Will check em both and decide

Christoskiller

The think is that i have a rank 5 duped 200 void going with killmonger and a 6* undupe void waiting to get his dupe

SpideyFunko

Christoskiller said:

The think is that i have a rank 5 duped 200 void going with killmonger and a 6* undupe void waiting to get his dupe

do you also have an omega as well?

Christoskiller

5* rank 1...have an awakening and some sigs but i don't know if he worths all of them without having suicides

KDSuperFlash10

Killmonger's utility is so overrated, he's got barely any. And his damage is pathetic.

Ronin is clear in both damage and utility.

Rockypantherx

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Killmonger's utility is so overrated, he's got barely any. And his damage is pathetic.

Ronin is clear in both damage and utility.

This guy said Apoc is a dud. Do not listen to him

SpideyFunko

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Killmonger's utility is so overrated, he's got barely any. And his damage is pathetic.

Ronin is clear in both damage and utility.

Apocalypse is a dud. Colossus is the third best champion in the game.

I can’t listen to you

Rockypantherx

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/225495/a-guide-of-the-killmonger-variety-from-a-killmonger-player#latest

I have a Killmonger guide here. As puff has mentioned, Killmonger has better utility, Ronin has better damage

I’m of the opinion that utility vastly outweighs damage. They’re both good champs. It’s entirely possible both puff and I overrate our respective champs. But I’ve got my 6* duped Killmonger and I’ve never regretted. You won’t use him for every fight, but where he works, he freaking works

I can’t emphasise how useful his true strike and indestructible is. Some (*cough* KD *cough*) think this is ‘little utility’. But it covers a lot of the most annoying defenders and nodes in the game

Just don’t expect him to be hitting like Cosmic Ghost Rider.

Rockypantherx

Christoskiller said:

5* rank 1...have an awakening and some sigs but i don't know if he worths all of them without having suicides

Also, omega is definitely worth it without suicides. 2nd most used champ in 100% act 6 behind ghost, and I used him a **** ton in other content without them. He’s definitely better with them, but that just the cherry on top of the already best mutant

Agent_X_zzz

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Killmonger's utility is so overrated, he's got barely any. And his damage is pathetic.

Ronin is clear in both damage and utility.

his utility is not overrated, and his damage is not bad esp while under reverb and true strike

KDSuperFlash10

Rockypantherx said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Killmonger's utility is so overrated, he's got barely any. And his damage is pathetic.

Ronin is clear in both damage and utility.

This guy said Apoc is a dud. Do not listen to him

SpideyFunko said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Killmonger's utility is so overrated, he's got barely any. And his damage is pathetic.

Ronin is clear in both damage and utility.

Apocalypse is a dud. Colossus is the third best champion in the game.

I can’t listen to you

"Apocalypse is a dud" was an oversight on my part. I was just doing my part to protect the champ from not coming out as a dud. He ended up becoming a top 5 mutant champion.

SpideyFunko

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Rockypantherx said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Killmonger's utility is so overrated, he's got barely any. And his damage is pathetic.

Ronin is clear in both damage and utility.

This guy said Apoc is a dud. Do not listen to him

SpideyFunko said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Killmonger's utility is so overrated, he's got barely any. And his damage is pathetic.

Ronin is clear in both damage and utility.

Apocalypse is a dud. Colossus is the third best champion in the game.

I can’t listen to you

"Apocalypse is a dud" was an oversight on my part. I was just doing my part to protect the champ from not coming out as a dud. He ended up becoming a top 5 mutant champion.

the fact he’s a top 5 mutant has nothing to do with you tho

KDSuperFlash10

Rockypantherx said:

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/225495/a-guide-of-the-killmonger-variety-from-a-killmonger-player#latest

I have a Killmonger guide here. As puff has mentioned, Killmonger has better utility, Ronin has better damage

I’m of the opinion that utility vastly outweighs damage. They’re both good champs. It’s entirely possible both puff and I overrate our respective champs. But I’ve got my 6* duped Killmonger and I’ve never regretted. You won’t use him for every fight, but where he works, he freaking works

I can’t emphasise how useful his true strike and indestructible is. Some (*cough* KD *cough*) think this is ‘little utility’. But it covers a lot of the most annoying defenders and nodes in the game

Just don’t expect him to be hitting like Cosmic Ghost Rider.

If I need true strike I'll just use Nick Fury, Falcon, or Ghost. Or frankly any champion who can counter evade and not hit crits as hard as Venompool. And as for the indestructible, just don't get hit. There are guides all over youtube on how not to get hit (this doesn't apply to you btw, I know you're a godly player). A lot of champions have safety nets in the form of indestructible, high block proficiency/armor, immunities, shrug off abilities, and can do so much more damage than Killmonger.

I'd like to see a Killmonger tune-up or update in the future.

KDSuperFlash10

Agent_X_zzz said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Killmonger's utility is so overrated, he's got barely any. And his damage is pathetic.

Ronin is clear in both damage and utility.

his utility is not overrated, and his damage is not bad esp while under reverb and true strike

His damage is nowhere near Nick Fury, Falcon, or Ghost who can all do what he does and so much more

Thicco_Mode

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Agent_X_zzz said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Killmonger's utility is so overrated, he's got barely any. And his damage is pathetic.

Ronin is clear in both damage and utility.

his utility is not overrated, and his damage is not bad esp while under reverb and true strike

His damage is nowhere near Nick Fury, Falcon, or Ghost who can all do what he does and so much more

Then why have literally any other champ in the game? Why have your big daddy apoc if someone else can do it better?

Nice discussion OP! I still don't really see what's that amazing about his damage, but it's still great

GroundedWisdom

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Rockypantherx said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Killmonger's utility is so overrated, he's got barely any. And his damage is pathetic.

Ronin is clear in both damage and utility.

This guy said Apoc is a dud. Do not listen to him

SpideyFunko said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Killmonger's utility is so overrated, he's got barely any. And his damage is pathetic.

Ronin is clear in both damage and utility.

Apocalypse is a dud. Colossus is the third best champion in the game.

I can’t listen to you

"Apocalypse is a dud" was an oversight on my part. I was just doing my part to protect the champ from not coming out as a dud. He ended up becoming a top 5 mutant champion.

You're taking credit for him now? Lol.

Agent_X_zzz

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Rockypantherx said:

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/225495/a-guide-of-the-killmonger-variety-from-a-killmonger-player#latest

I have a Killmonger guide here. As puff has mentioned, Killmonger has better utility, Ronin has better damage

I’m of the opinion that utility vastly outweighs damage. They’re both good champs. It’s entirely possible both puff and I overrate our respective champs. But I’ve got my 6* duped Killmonger and I’ve never regretted. You won’t use him for every fight, but where he works, he freaking works

I can’t emphasise how useful his true strike and indestructible is. Some (*cough* KD *cough*) think this is ‘little utility’. But it covers a lot of the most annoying defenders and nodes in the game

Just don’t expect him to be hitting like Cosmic Ghost Rider.

If I need true strike I'll just use Nick Fury, Falcon, or Ghost. Or frankly any champion who can counter evade and not hit crits as hard as Venompool. And as for the indestructible, just don't get hit. There are guides all over youtube on how not to get hit (this doesn't apply to you btw, I know you're a godly player). A lot of champions have safety nets in the form of indestructible, high block proficiency/armor, immunities, shrug off abilities, and can do so much more damage than Killmonger.

I'd like to see a Killmonger tune-up or update in the future.

True strike ignores evade, auto block and resistances, just gonna point that out as you seem to not be aware, "don't get hit" so you are telling me you have never gotten hit, it is very useful for all or nothing and tanking sp3s.

GroundedWisdom

Agent_X_zzz said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Rockypantherx said:

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/225495/a-guide-of-the-killmonger-variety-from-a-killmonger-player#latest

I have a Killmonger guide here. As puff has mentioned, Killmonger has better utility, Ronin has better damage

I’m of the opinion that utility vastly outweighs damage. They’re both good champs. It’s entirely possible both puff and I overrate our respective champs. But I’ve got my 6* duped Killmonger and I’ve never regretted. You won’t use him for every fight, but where he works, he freaking works

I can’t emphasise how useful his true strike and indestructible is. Some (*cough* KD *cough*) think this is ‘little utility’. But it covers a lot of the most annoying defenders and nodes in the game

Just don’t expect him to be hitting like Cosmic Ghost Rider.

If I need true strike I'll just use Nick Fury, Falcon, or Ghost. Or frankly any champion who can counter evade and not hit crits as hard as Venompool. And as for the indestructible, just don't get hit. There are guides all over youtube on how not to get hit (this doesn't apply to you btw, I know you're a godly player). A lot of champions have safety nets in the form of indestructible, high block proficiency/armor, immunities, shrug off abilities, and can do so much more damage than Killmonger.

I'd like to see a Killmonger tune-up or update in the future.

True strike ignores evade, auto block and resistances, just gonna point that out as you seem to not be aware, "don't get hit" so you are telling me you have never gotten hit, it is very useful for all or nothing and tanking sp3s.

Not to mention Mixmaster.

Rockypantherx

KDSuperFlash10 said:

Rockypantherx said:

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/225495/a-guide-of-the-killmonger-variety-from-a-killmonger-player#latest

I have a Killmonger guide here. As puff has mentioned, Killmonger has better utility, Ronin has better damage

I’m of the opinion that utility vastly outweighs damage. They’re both good champs. It’s entirely possible both puff and I overrate our respective champs. But I’ve got my 6* duped Killmonger and I’ve never regretted. You won’t use him for every fight, but where he works, he freaking works

I can’t emphasise how useful his true strike and indestructible is. Some (*cough* KD *cough*) think this is ‘little utility’. But it covers a lot of the most annoying defenders and nodes in the game

Just don’t expect him to be hitting like Cosmic Ghost Rider.

If I need true strike I'll just use Nick Fury, Falcon, or Ghost. Or frankly any champion who can counter evade and not hit crits as hard as Venompool. And as for the indestructible, just don't get hit. There are guides all over youtube on how not to get hit (this doesn't apply to you btw, I know you're a godly player). A lot of champions have safety nets in the form of indestructible, high block proficiency/armor, immunities, shrug off abilities, and can do so much more damage than Killmonger.

I'd like to see a Killmonger tune-up or update in the future.

I’ve never said he’s better than Nick fury or ghost

And good luck taking on an autoblock champ with them.

The indestructible charges, while they are a safety net, as useful so other significant ways. Such as tanking SP3’s in very high power gain scenarios, mitigating block damage from unavoidable specials, and indeed being a safety net

The only thing he needs is his bleeds being able to stack.

And don’t act like Apoc is a dud is your only bad take. Colossus third best champ? CGR third best champ? And that’s not an exhaustive list. I love ya KD, but your takes on champs are just awful

GroundedWisdom

KM is also good for Defense. On the right Nodes, he's just a pain.