Hahahaha, KD thinks Falcon is better than KM. That's hilarious. This is almost as bad as the "Apocalypse is a dud" thread.
Actually, I’m going to slightly defend KD here. I’ve not seen enough from falcon to make a full judgement, but I do think falcon could be. And I have a 6* R3 Killmonger who’s my favourite champ. So I don’t make that statement lightly
Falcon has some pretty good damage, especially in evade matchups, and -100% DAAR is stupidly powerful. My only doubt is it’s practicality with the downtime, which is what I need to both see and test before I fully judge him
the damage is there but the utility isn’t. And if you aren’t watching the timer in certain matchups (mix master) you’ll slip up and take a combo to the face.
I mean, -100% DAAR covers a sh*t ton of stuff. But yeah that timer is what I’m hesitant about
That's why KM vs Falcon isn't even a question for me. He has solid damage in evade matchups which is some really freakin niche solid damage, but the utility just isn't there for me when it's only active for like half the fight. Anywhere he would work, he just isn't at all practical for because of that ridiculous cooldown.
Accessible 100% uptime on an auto-block and evade counter, ignores armor and resistances, has easy access to intercepts with his unstoppable charges which is something that makes Ghost so valuable, 7 hit combos that allow you to give your opponent more power which creates more openings, indestructible charges that let you tank Sp3's, take no damage on blocked hits, and provides a safety net, and big burst damage on the Sp3 in longer fights.
But sure... Killmonger's bad.
Fair enough but KM doesn't necessarily have 100% uptime on the true strike cuz you have to get them to a bar of power and in a stun immune matchup that's not 100% reliable but I guess if you bring Winter Soldier along you can technically get it with an intercept at the start
Hahahaha, KD thinks Falcon is better than KM. That's hilarious. This is almost as bad as the "Apocalypse is a dud" thread.
Actually, I’m going to slightly defend KD here. I’ve not seen enough from falcon to make a full judgement, but I do think falcon could be. And I have a 6* R3 Killmonger who’s my favourite champ. So I don’t make that statement lightly
Falcon has some pretty good damage, especially in evade matchups, and -100% DAAR is stupidly powerful. My only doubt is it’s practicality with the downtime, which is what I need to both see and test before I fully judge him
the damage is there but the utility isn’t. And if you aren’t watching the timer in certain matchups (mix master) you’ll slip up and take a combo to the face.
I mean, -100% DAAR covers a sh*t ton of stuff. But yeah that timer is what I’m hesitant about
Hahahaha, KD thinks Falcon is better than KM. That's hilarious. This is almost as bad as the "Apocalypse is a dud" thread.
Actually, I’m going to slightly defend KD here. I’ve not seen enough from falcon to make a full judgement, but I do think falcon could be. And I have a 6* R3 Killmonger who’s my favourite champ. So I don’t make that statement lightly
Falcon has some pretty good damage, especially in evade matchups, and -100% DAAR is stupidly powerful. My only doubt is it’s practicality with the downtime, which is what I need to both see and test before I fully judge him
the damage is there but the utility isn’t. And if you aren’t watching the timer in certain matchups (mix master) you’ll slip up and take a combo to the face.
saying the utility isn't there when he has a fat -100% DAAR is just wrong lol
-100% DAAR can counter so so so many interactions/nodes in the game it's unreal
Accessible 100% uptime on an auto-block and evade counter, ignores armor and resistances, has easy access to intercepts with his unstoppable charges which is something that makes Ghost so valuable, 7 hit combos that allow you to give your opponent more power which creates more openings, indestructible charges that let you tank Sp3's, take no damage on blocked hits, and provides a safety net, and big burst damage on the Sp3 in longer fights.
But sure... Killmonger's bad.
Fair enough but KM doesn't necessarily have 100% uptime on the true strike cuz you have to get them to a bar of power and in a stun immune matchup that's not 100% reliable but I guess if you bring Winter Soldier along you can technically get it with an intercept at the start
*Accessible*
It's easy to have 100% uptime with WS, and not bad at all in a normal matchup without.
Falcon vs Killmonger (All Stats are from a 6 star rank 3 champion)
Damage:
(needs max sig for the +3400 attack bonus)(also only 8 seconds compared to Falcon's 14 seconds and +40% duration vs science champs) P.S. The bleeds can help a bit with the damage but they don't stack and aren't really all that strong so I'm not factoring them in. Also, if we were to factor in KM's bleeds, I would have to factor in Falcon's bleeds (more potent than KM's bleed but only occurs off sp1 and KM has a 80% chance off all critical hits = KM more bleeds and Falcon less bleeds but KM less potent bleeds and Falcon more potent bleeds = similar DOT amount) and incinerates.
(gets this with a simple dash back for 1.2 seconds) (needs high sig for this to have a meaningful effect) (I'm not gonna factor this into the damage debate because it's off an sp3 but it's a pretty sizeable critical damage rating increase, not huge but it does a lot especially in non-evade matchups)
Falcon obviously wins in the damage department.
Utility:
Can keep up true strike for almost the entire duration of the fight (except the beginning, but you can get it with an intercept with WS synergy) KM can tank all sorts of stuff with his indestructible (unfortunately can't take 0 damage from DOT but I guess that would be way too OP cuz you can keep them up the entire fight technically if you only intercept)
Falcon's only but extremely effective piece of utility, his -100% DAAR mechanic. It is a very powerful mechanic because it can negate all sorts of DOT on Falcon through nodes or interactions such as biohazard or freezer burn and can also counter all sorts of champion/node interactions like evade, autoblock, Thing's rock stacks, Korg, Electro's shock damage back. All things said however, it is too early to decide who wins the utility debate solely for the fact that this -100% DAAR has a duration of 14 seconds (+40% vs science champs) with a cooldown of 8 seconds. Killmonger can keep his true strike on for practically the entire fight. Also, Falcon doesn't have indestructibility.
For now, I'll say that they are pretty equal in terms of utility. Although Falcon's utility encompasses more things, KM's utility can last the entire fight while Falcon's cannot.
This is a completely stat-based analysis of Falcon vs Killmonger. You really can't dispute this because it's numbers and it's in their abilities. The only things we can actually debate about are who's utility is better and more efficient/practical as that can be compared with logic.
Killmonger's utility is so overrated, he's got barely any. And his damage is pathetic.
Ronin is clear in both damage and utility.
Apocalypse is a dud. Colossus is the third best champion in the game.
I can’t listen to you
"Apocalypse is a dud" was an oversight on my part. I was just doing my part to protect the champ from not coming out as a dud. He ended up becoming a top 5 mutant champion.
Killmonger's utility is so overrated, he's got barely any. And his damage is pathetic.
Ronin is clear in both damage and utility.
Apocalypse is a dud. Colossus is the third best champion in the game.
I can’t listen to you
"Apocalypse is a dud" was an oversight on my part. I was just doing my part to protect the champ from not coming out as a dud. He ended up becoming a top 5 mutant champion.
the fact he’s a top 5 mutant has nothing to do with you tho
When did I ever take credit for him?????? I just said that "Apocalypse is a dud" was a bad post on my part, and he ended up being a top 5 mutant champion. I didn't have anything to do with that lol. I was very wrong about Apocalypse during his release.
" I was just doing my part to protect the champ from not coming out as a dud. " ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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I worded that wrong but I meant that I made that thread cuz I was scared he'd become a dud (I've been a bit of an X-Men fan from when I was younger and I watched the movies and I've always really liked Apocalypse especially cuz he was one of the big bads of the X-Men). If I knew how good he actually was before CCP gameplay came, I wouldn't have made that thread (The deep dive was pretty terrible tho, barely showed off any of his abilities). A mistake on my part tho.
This is a completely stat-based analysis of Falcon vs Killmonger. You really can't dispute this because it's numbers and it's in their abilities. The only things we can actually debate about are who's utility is better and more efficient/practical as that can be compared with logic.
That's exactly why I whole-heartedly dispute it. Falcon's utility can counter some more, but it's just so impractical. You can counter an ability, but then you've gotta back off and not do anything for 8 seconds, and then find another opening where you can reactivate your utility without taking a ton of block damage. Meanwhile, KM counters tons of troublesome mechanics without needing to play in an impractical way for the whole fight.
And as for the damage, KM's is comparable with Falcon's in every matchup but evade champions.
Elsa's an evade counter that has solid damage and can shrug off debuffs. She's so overrated it's not even funny. I took her up to R4. She's fun! I like her! But calling her a top 5 Skill champ is just ridiculous when Ægon, NF, Stealthy, Hit Monkey, Killmonger, Night Thrasher exist. And I'd personally rate Gwenpool, BWDO, Ronin, Falcon, and even Blade ahead of her. They all at least have something special.
Elsa's an evade counter that has solid damage and can shrug off debuffs. She's so overrated it's not even funny. I took her up to R4. She's fun! I like her! But calling her a top 5 Skill champ is just ridiculous when Ægon, NF, Stealthy, Hit Monkey, Killmonger, Night Thrasher exist. And I'd personally rate Gwenpool, BWDO, Ronin, Falcon, and even Blade ahead of her. They all at least have something special.
Ok I’m going to say it.
BWDO is super overrated. I love her, she’s ridiculously fun, but my god does her kit not come together. She’s all damage and very little utility. The miss counter is nice, but it’s kind of awkward. Don’t even get me started in the DAAR. It’s not consistent, requires a limited combo, and two of the matchups where it should shine, Electro and Thing, are god awful for her
I love her, if I got her I would take her to R5 immediately, but elsa and those other champs are a significant step above
Elsa's an evade counter that has solid damage and can shrug off debuffs. She's so overrated it's not even funny. I took her up to R4. She's fun! I like her! But calling her a top 5 Skill champ is just ridiculous when Ægon, NF, Stealthy, Hit Monkey, Killmonger, Night Thrasher exist. And I'd personally rate Gwenpool, BWDO, Ronin, Falcon, and even Blade ahead of her. They all at least have something special.
Ok I’m going to say it.
BWDO is super overrated. I love her, she’s ridiculously fun, but my god does her kit not come together. She’s all damage and very little utility. The miss counter is nice, but it’s kind of awkward. Don’t even get me started in the DAAR. It’s not consistent, requires a limited combo, and two of the matchups where it should shine, Electro and Thing, are god awful for her
I love her, if I got her I would take her to R5 immediately, but elsa and those other champs are a significant step above
Not as overrated as Elsa.
Eh I don’t know. I really do have a soft spot for elsa. I would need to get my hands on one to properly judge. Which will hopefully be soon
Elsa's an evade counter that has solid damage and can shrug off debuffs. She's so overrated it's not even funny. I took her up to R4. She's fun! I like her! But calling her a top 5 Skill champ is just ridiculous when Ægon, NF, Stealthy, Hit Monkey, Killmonger, Night Thrasher exist. And I'd personally rate Gwenpool, BWDO, Ronin, Falcon, and even Blade ahead of her. They all at least have something special.
Ok I’m going to say it.
BWDO is super overrated. I love her, she’s ridiculously fun, but my god does her kit not come together. She’s all damage and very little utility. The miss counter is nice, but it’s kind of awkward. Don’t even get me started in the DAAR. It’s not consistent, requires a limited combo, and two of the matchups where it should shine, Electro and Thing, are god awful for her
I love her, if I got her I would take her to R5 immediately, but elsa and those other champs are a significant step above
I actually agree. I do think she's overrated and doesn't have a lot when it comes to utility, but I'd still say she's better than Elsa. Elsa just brings absolutely nothing special to the table. At least BWDO has strong shock damage which is niche, but rare and useful.
Elsa's an evade counter that has solid damage and can shrug off debuffs. She's so overrated it's not even funny. I took her up to R4. She's fun! I like her! But calling her a top 5 Skill champ is just ridiculous when Ægon, NF, Stealthy, Hit Monkey, Killmonger, Night Thrasher exist. And I'd personally rate Gwenpool, BWDO, Ronin, Falcon, and even Blade ahead of her. They all at least have something special.
Ok I’m going to say it.
BWDO is super overrated. I love her, she’s ridiculously fun, but my god does her kit not come together. She’s all damage and very little utility. The miss counter is nice, but it’s kind of awkward. Don’t even get me started in the DAAR. It’s not consistent, requires a limited combo, and two of the matchups where it should shine, Electro and Thing, are god awful for her
I love her, if I got her I would take her to R5 immediately, but elsa and those other champs are a significant step above
Finally someone said it. I keep seeing people taking her to R3 and it pains me, I'd rather take up Moleman than BWDO
Elsa's an evade counter that has solid damage and can shrug off debuffs. She's so overrated it's not even funny. I took her up to R4. She's fun! I like her! But calling her a top 5 Skill champ is just ridiculous when Ægon, NF, Stealthy, Hit Monkey, Killmonger, Night Thrasher exist. And I'd personally rate Gwenpool, BWDO, Ronin, Falcon, and even Blade ahead of her. They all at least have something special.
Ok I’m going to say it.
BWDO is super overrated. I love her, she’s ridiculously fun, but my god does her kit not come together. She’s all damage and very little utility. The miss counter is nice, but it’s kind of awkward. Don’t even get me started in the DAAR. It’s not consistent, requires a limited combo, and two of the matchups where it should shine, Electro and Thing, are god awful for her
I love her, if I got her I would take her to R5 immediately, but elsa and those other champs are a significant step above
Finally someone said it. I keep seeing people taking her to R3 and it pains me, I'd rather take up Moleman than BWDO
Elsa's an evade counter that has solid damage and can shrug off debuffs. She's so overrated it's not even funny. I took her up to R4. She's fun! I like her! But calling her a top 5 Skill champ is just ridiculous when Ægon, NF, Stealthy, Hit Monkey, Killmonger, Night Thrasher exist. And I'd personally rate Gwenpool, BWDO, Ronin, Falcon, and even Blade ahead of her. They all at least have something special.
Ok I’m going to say it.
BWDO is super overrated. I love her, she’s ridiculously fun, but my god does her kit not come together. She’s all damage and very little utility. The miss counter is nice, but it’s kind of awkward. Don’t even get me started in the DAAR. It’s not consistent, requires a limited combo, and two of the matchups where it should shine, Electro and Thing, are god awful for her
I love her, if I got her I would take her to R5 immediately, but elsa and those other champs are a significant step above
I actually agree. I do think she's overrated and doesn't have a lot when it comes to utility, but I'd still say she's better than Elsa. Elsa just brings absolutely nothing special to the table. At least BWDO has strong shock damage which is niche, but rare and useful.
Elsa’s great for moving to a next ‘power tier’. She covers a lot of ground. Non-damaging debuff purification, debuff no one is naturally immune to, incinerate, coldsnap, good damage, can technically do buffed up, plus that evade is amazing for finding openings
I don’t see much reason to use her besides the purification in a fairly well established roster, but she can go do good amount, which I appreciate in a champ
Also this thread just cannot settle on a topic can it😂
Elsa's an evade counter that has solid damage and can shrug off debuffs. She's so overrated it's not even funny. I took her up to R4. She's fun! I like her! But calling her a top 5 Skill champ is just ridiculous when Ægon, NF, Stealthy, Hit Monkey, Killmonger, Night Thrasher exist. And I'd personally rate Gwenpool, BWDO, Ronin, Falcon, and even Blade ahead of her. They all at least have something special.
Ok I’m going to say it.
BWDO is super overrated. I love her, she’s ridiculously fun, but my god does her kit not come together. She’s all damage and very little utility. The miss counter is nice, but it’s kind of awkward. Don’t even get me started in the DAAR. It’s not consistent, requires a limited combo, and two of the matchups where it should shine, Electro and Thing, are god awful for her
I love her, if I got her I would take her to R5 immediately, but elsa and those other champs are a significant step above
I actually agree. I do think she's overrated and doesn't have a lot when it comes to utility, but I'd still say she's better than Elsa. Elsa just brings absolutely nothing special to the table. At least BWDO has strong shock damage which is niche, but rare and useful.
Elsa’s great for moving to a next ‘power tier’. She covers a lot of ground. Non-damaging debuff purification, debuff no one is naturally immune to, incinerate, coldsnap, good damage, can technically do buffed up, plus that evade is amazing for finding openings
I don’t see much reason to use her besides the purification in a fairly well established roster, but she can go do good amount, which I appreciate in a champ
Also this thread just cannot settle on a topic can it😂
Lol, no we can not. All I know is I'd take a BWDO to R5 for niche shock-related uses while my Elsa will never be taken up since I have no need for her. I use her occasionally for fun at R4, but I've never felt like she's even a top 5 choice in my roster for any kind of fight. I actually want an excuse to R5 her, or R2 my unawakened 6*, but I can't find one.
Elsa's an evade counter that has solid damage and can shrug off debuffs. She's so overrated it's not even funny. I took her up to R4. She's fun! I like her! But calling her a top 5 Skill champ is just ridiculous when Ægon, NF, Stealthy, Hit Monkey, Killmonger, Night Thrasher exist. And I'd personally rate Gwenpool, BWDO, Ronin, Falcon, and even Blade ahead of her. They all at least have something special.
I for sure agree with Nick Fury and Ægon, easily the top two skill by far. For lack of knowledge of HM let’s put him at number three, after that it’s very debatable. I plan to rank three Elsa over my Killmonger as my first r3. I feel she: 1. Can output more dps than him. 2. Their are few champs that are immune to her kit (Rulk, HT, Mephisto, and Colossus are the big ones) and no one is immune to her other half. 3. She can ignore resistances really well with her charges. 4. She has close to a guaranteed crit chance with two precision buffs 5. She can easily get rid of any non-damaging debuff converting it to damage. 6. Her rotation feels nice and is easy to maintain. 7. Her evade counter allows to open up fights to get around block damage or stun immunity (this also pairs well with Nick). NT, Gwenpool, BWDO, Ronin, Falcon, and Blade all have nice kits too but Elsa takes the cake in my top 5.
Elsa's an evade counter that has solid damage and can shrug off debuffs. She's so overrated it's not even funny. I took her up to R4. She's fun! I like her! But calling her a top 5 Skill champ is just ridiculous when Ægon, NF, Stealthy, Hit Monkey, Killmonger, Night Thrasher exist. And I'd personally rate Gwenpool, BWDO, Ronin, Falcon, and even Blade ahead of her. They all at least have something special.
Ok I’m going to say it.
BWDO is super overrated. I love her, she’s ridiculously fun, but my god does her kit not come together. She’s all damage and very little utility. The miss counter is nice, but it’s kind of awkward. Don’t even get me started in the DAAR. It’s not consistent, requires a limited combo, and two of the matchups where it should shine, Electro and Thing, are god awful for her
I love her, if I got her I would take her to R5 immediately, but elsa and those other champs are a significant step above
I actually agree. I do think she's overrated and doesn't have a lot when it comes to utility, but I'd still say she's better than Elsa. Elsa just brings absolutely nothing special to the table. At least BWDO has strong shock damage which is niche, but rare and useful.
Elsa’s great for moving to a next ‘power tier’. She covers a lot of ground. Non-damaging debuff purification, debuff no one is naturally immune to, incinerate, coldsnap, good damage, can technically do buffed up, plus that evade is amazing for finding openings
I don’t see much reason to use her besides the purification in a fairly well established roster, but she can go do good amount, which I appreciate in a champ
Also this thread just cannot settle on a topic can it😂
Lol, no we can not. All I know is I'd take a BWDO to R5 for niche shock-related uses while my Elsa will never be taken up since I have no need for her. I use her occasionally for fun at R4, but I've never felt like she's even a top 5 choice in my roster for any kind of fight. I actually want an excuse to R5 her, or R2 my unawakened 6*, but I can't find one.
There’s a couple of non-damaging debuff lanes in act 6 she would work pretty well for. The cramping lane comes to mind particularly. Although if mole man’s tune up is decent he might take elsa’s crown in that regard
Km is second skill champ I'd rank up. First is argon. I now have both as 6*s duped, and while argon just works for different things, km is so fun to play. His animation is also very satisfying. Ronin I find kinda annoying to play.
I dropped in because KD couldn’t stop pampering me on discord about how CGr is the best champ in the entire game and that he has more utility than KM.
I might be the only that thinks Elsa isn’t fun? Her abilities are good, but there are just champs who do it better. Some of the utilities people claim she has are barely useful imo.
And she counters Mister Fantastic? Oh boy, as if every champ in the game falls to their knees for Mr F.
She’s overrated a ton imo. Just squeaks our of the top 10 skills for me
She still counters him and makes him easier to fight that he already is, which is still valuable. She gets free openings without needing to parry and take that damage because apparently thats useful for a champ like sunspot. Really good evade counter but relies on coldsnap debuff. Pretty unique method of damage. And thats it lol. I'd take her up over ronin because I like her but I'm not sure who's better tbh. Also, I think she's way better than bwdo. Maybe I suck at playing the game or with BWDO specifically, but I had both at r3 and elsa killed winter soldier in like 50 less seconds. I might still have recordings or I'll just redo it if anyone wants to see
My skill champ rating is 1. Aegon 2. Nick(these two can be switched, depending on content) 3. Spelthy 4. Bwdo/Ronin 5. Hit monkey(I may be using him wrong) Elsa does not even compete with them IMO
Spelthy, aka master of only having 1 piece of utility.
Guaranteed evade, high damage, slow, what more do I need? Plus Ronin doesn’t have a great nickname.
The guaranteed evade is rubbish, high damage isnt utility, and slow is fine. But thats it. He doesnt need a nickname since he doesnt have a 3 word name.
yeah he only has evade, unstoppable, and miss counter, all super useless. ronin has 40% daar on one stance that you can't stay in forever and an 8 second 40% disorient on a special. yeah id definitely take spelthy.
My skill champ rating is 1. Aegon 2. Nick(these two can be switched, depending on content) 3. Spelthy 4. Bwdo/Ronin 5. Hit monkey(I may be using him wrong) Elsa does not even compete with them IMO
Spelthy, aka master of only having 1 piece of utility.
Guaranteed evade, high damage, slow, what more do I need? Plus Ronin doesn’t have a great nickname.
The guaranteed evade is rubbish, high damage isnt utility, and slow is fine. But thats it. He doesnt need a nickname since he doesnt have a 3 word name.
yeah he only has evade, unstoppable, and miss counter, all super useless. ronin has 40% daar on one stance that you can't stay in forever and an 8 second 40% disorient on a special. yeah id definitely take spelthy.
Spam sp1 is easy. And Stealthys evade is trash, and listing those is just glorifying the word slow.
Comments
It's easy to have 100% uptime with WS, and not bad at all in a normal matchup without.
Damage:
(needs max sig for the +3400 attack bonus)(also only 8 seconds compared to Falcon's 14 seconds and +40% duration vs science champs)
P.S. The bleeds can help a bit with the damage but they don't stack and aren't really all that strong so I'm not factoring them in. Also, if we were to factor in KM's bleeds, I would have to factor in Falcon's bleeds (more potent than KM's bleed but only occurs off sp1 and KM has a 80% chance off all critical hits = KM more bleeds and Falcon less bleeds but KM less potent bleeds and Falcon more potent bleeds = similar DOT amount) and incinerates.
(gets this with a simple dash back for 1.2 seconds)
(needs high sig for this to have a meaningful effect)
(I'm not gonna factor this into the damage debate because it's off an sp3 but it's a pretty sizeable critical damage rating increase, not huge but it does a lot especially in non-evade matchups)
Falcon obviously wins in the damage department.
Utility:
Can keep up true strike for almost the entire duration of the fight (except the beginning, but you can get it with an intercept with WS synergy)
KM can tank all sorts of stuff with his indestructible (unfortunately can't take 0 damage from DOT but I guess that would be way too OP cuz you can keep them up the entire fight technically if you only intercept)
Falcon's only but extremely effective piece of utility, his -100% DAAR mechanic. It is a very powerful mechanic because it can negate all sorts of DOT on Falcon through nodes or interactions such as biohazard or freezer burn and can also counter all sorts of champion/node interactions like evade, autoblock, Thing's rock stacks, Korg, Electro's shock damage back. All things said however, it is too early to decide who wins the utility debate solely for the fact that this -100% DAAR has a duration of 14 seconds (+40% vs science champs) with a cooldown of 8 seconds. Killmonger can keep his true strike on for practically the entire fight. Also, Falcon doesn't have indestructibility.
For now, I'll say that they are pretty equal in terms of utility. Although Falcon's utility encompasses more things, KM's utility can last the entire fight while Falcon's cannot.
This is a completely stat-based analysis of Falcon vs Killmonger. You really can't dispute this because it's numbers and it's in their abilities. The only things we can actually debate about are who's utility is better and more efficient/practical as that can be compared with logic.
And as for the damage, KM's is comparable with Falcon's in every matchup but evade champions.
BWDO is super overrated. I love her, she’s ridiculously fun, but my god does her kit not come together. She’s all damage and very little utility. The miss counter is nice, but it’s kind of awkward. Don’t even get me started in the DAAR. It’s not consistent, requires a limited combo, and two of the matchups where it should shine, Electro and Thing, are god awful for her
I love her, if I got her I would take her to R5 immediately, but elsa and those other champs are a significant step above
I don’t see much reason to use her besides the purification in a fairly well established roster, but she can go do good amount, which I appreciate in a champ
Also this thread just cannot settle on a topic can it😂
At me if you must.
he can stack cruelties and get some wild damage
Here, fixed it.
Like honestly, those two are pretty similar characters. Limited debuffs cancelling, some dot, high crit rate, sp3 reliant rotations.
She seems better in any fight that’s not unstoppable for me.