Whom shall I take to R3 for Thronebreaker?

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  • DefenestratedDefenestrated Member Posts: 304 ★★★
    Doctor_M said:

    Aleor said:

    Do you really need to become Thronebreaker this month or what? If you could hold out a little longer I’d say do that because Thronebreaker isn’t a big jump from cavalier except during July 4th and Cyber Monday. You could pull a better tech champ between now and July if you can wait.

    @Defenestrated
    T5b glory store increase alone may be worth it. If you buy t5cc instead, it also may be. It is for me at least. That's actually all the glory I have, and I was waiting like 10 aq cycles until I finally formed t5cc for my sentinel to go to r3. If I only opened eq/sq t5cc crystals, it would've take two 3 moths to form another cat.
    @Aleor sound like I should not hesitate to go for Thronebreaker?
    You already have two great champions ready to go for Thronebreaker. The only reason why I would wait is because Ghost, Warlock, G2099, and Guardian are more fun to play for me. But, Hulkbuster and Sentinel are great options (and you love playing with Hulkbuster already), so I would take them up to reap the benefits of the daily crystals.
  • MasterpuffMasterpuff Member Posts: 6,469 ★★★★★
    Sentinel (awaken)
    Im gonna r2 my sentinel, and maybe R3. And im already TB.
  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,164 ★★★★★
    Sentinel (awaken)
    I wouldn’t be tentative about Sentinel here because I think he’s an obvious R3 choice. Discussion about whether TB is worth it typically centers around whether ranking a subpar champ justifies it—but I’d never put Sentinel into the subpar category.

    TB has its shortcomings (plenty of threads—you can search under my and @DNA3000 comments) but you may as well go ahead. Sentinel can smash the Variants you haven’t done. I suspect you will get enough T5cc crystals there to give you more rankup dilemmas.

    Dr. Zola
  • Doctor_MDoctor_M Member Posts: 54
    Hulkbuster (unawaken)
    DrZola said:

    I wouldn’t be tentative about Sentinel here because I think he’s an obvious R3 choice. Discussion about whether TB is worth it typically centers around whether ranking a subpar champ justifies it—but I’d never put Sentinel into the subpar category.

    TB has its shortcomings (plenty of threads—you can search under my and @DNA3000 comments) but you may as well go ahead. Sentinel can smash the Variants you haven’t done. I suspect you will get enough T5cc crystals there to give you more rankup dilemmas.

    Dr. Zola

    @DrZola I don't understand the idea of ranking a subpar champ to justify TB. :) Lol
    I was just thinking of getting T5CC with TB, otherwise it will take me a long long....time to form 1 full T5CC like @Aleor mentioned previously.
  • MasterpuffMasterpuff Member Posts: 6,469 ★★★★★
    Sentinel (awaken)
    Doctor_M said:

    DrZola said:

    I wouldn’t be tentative about Sentinel here because I think he’s an obvious R3 choice. Discussion about whether TB is worth it typically centers around whether ranking a subpar champ justifies it—but I’d never put Sentinel into the subpar category.

    TB has its shortcomings (plenty of threads—you can search under my and DNA3000 comments) but you may as well go ahead. Sentinel can smash the Variants you haven’t done. I suspect you will get enough T5cc crystals there to give you more rankup dilemmas.

    Dr. Zola

    DrZola I don't understand the idea of ranking a subpar champ to justify TB. :) Lol
    I was just thinking of getting T5CC with TB, otherwise it will take me a long long....time to form 1 full T5CC like Aleor mentioned previously.
    Id say Sentinel is a really good r3 option regardless, especially duped. Having been thronebreaker since the start, there arent many perks. Mostly just daily crystals.
  • Doctor_MDoctor_M Member Posts: 54
    Hulkbuster (unawaken)

    Doctor_M said:

    DrZola said:

    I wouldn’t be tentative about Sentinel here because I think he’s an obvious R3 choice. Discussion about whether TB is worth it typically centers around whether ranking a subpar champ justifies it—but I’d never put Sentinel into the subpar category.

    TB has its shortcomings (plenty of threads—you can search under my and DNA3000 comments) but you may as well go ahead. Sentinel can smash the Variants you haven’t done. I suspect you will get enough T5cc crystals there to give you more rankup dilemmas.

    Dr. Zola

    DrZola I don't understand the idea of ranking a subpar champ to justify TB. :) Lol
    I was just thinking of getting T5CC with TB, otherwise it will take me a long long....time to form 1 full T5CC like Aleor mentioned previously.
    Id say Sentinel is a really good r3 option regardless, especially duped. Having been thronebreaker since the start, there arent many perks. Mostly just daily crystals.
    @Masterpuff for someone who have been TB from the start, will you R3 Sentinel just to be a Thronebreaker? Or will you wait for better champs?
  • MasterpuffMasterpuff Member Posts: 6,469 ★★★★★
    Sentinel (awaken)
    Doctor_M said:

    Doctor_M said:

    DrZola said:

    I wouldn’t be tentative about Sentinel here because I think he’s an obvious R3 choice. Discussion about whether TB is worth it typically centers around whether ranking a subpar champ justifies it—but I’d never put Sentinel into the subpar category.

    TB has its shortcomings (plenty of threads—you can search under my and DNA3000 comments) but you may as well go ahead. Sentinel can smash the Variants you haven’t done. I suspect you will get enough T5cc crystals there to give you more rankup dilemmas.

    Dr. Zola

    DrZola I don't understand the idea of ranking a subpar champ to justify TB. :) Lol
    I was just thinking of getting T5CC with TB, otherwise it will take me a long long....time to form 1 full T5CC like Aleor mentioned previously.
    Id say Sentinel is a really good r3 option regardless, especially duped. Having been thronebreaker since the start, there arent many perks. Mostly just daily crystals.
    @Masterpuff for someone who have been TB from the start, will you R3 Sentinel just to be a Thronebreaker? Or will you wait for better champs?
    I would 100% r3 him.
  • AleorAleor Member Posts: 3,105 ★★★★★
    Sentinel (awaken)
    Doctor_M said:

    Aleor said:

    Do you really need to become Thronebreaker this month or what? If you could hold out a little longer I’d say do that because Thronebreaker isn’t a big jump from cavalier except during July 4th and Cyber Monday. You could pull a better tech champ between now and July if you can wait.

    @Defenestrated
    T5b glory store increase alone may be worth it. If you buy t5cc instead, it also may be. It is for me at least. That's actually all the glory I have, and I was waiting like 10 aq cycles until I finally formed t5cc for my sentinel to go to r3. If I only opened eq/sq t5cc crystals, it would've take two 3 moths to form another cat.
    @Aleor sound like I should not hesitate to go for Thronebreaker?
    Sure, go for it! I guess.
    HB is also a decent option btw. His power burn is sweet. His biggest downside is how inconsistent his heavy spam in corner is - same animation as venom's, but misses sometimes. That was the reason I took 5* g99 over hb to r5.
    Comparing with other current tech options - he's very similar to warlock actually. He is weaker in some things, like his heal block is a debuff, not a passive, but on the other hand, he has some more unique things, like sp2 into block still deals most of it's damage. He is my go to champ for darkhawk half of the time for example - don't knock him down, no auto lock, no heal, easy fight. The other half is torch. Also he's the best champ for learning how to hit in block a lot, wich helps to control the space, so you don't get cornered...
    If you already have him r2, you probably know it yourself, I speak too much. If you like him, he's a great option to go with. If you don't like both sentinel and hb, totally up to you. If you have champs of other classes you want to r3, getting tb will most likely help it happen faster, depends on your t5cc shards collected atm
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  • DualityCopeDualityCope Member Posts: 436 ★★★
    edited February 2021
    Sentinel (awaken)
    Sentinel will give prestige. Also hb is hardly usable in endgame content bvuz the heavy is poopy
  • Doctor_MDoctor_M Member Posts: 54
    Hulkbuster (unawaken)
    zeezee57 said:

    I would, ive been TB and would almost certainly R3 a duped sentinel if I had one. Just off glory store and the monthly calendar alone you can pick up an additional 25% t5cc you don't currently get and the daily crystals are so far ahead of cav. I fortunately didn't need to rank someone I wouldn't otherwise have but Sentinel doesn't fall into that category and pulling one of the 3 or 4 better tech options is pretty slim.

    @zeezee57 your feedback is very insightful. I agreed with you, the chances of pulling one of the better tech champs seem pretty slim to me.
  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,164 ★★★★★
    Sentinel (awaken)
    Doctor_M said:

    DrZola said:

    I wouldn’t be tentative about Sentinel here because I think he’s an obvious R3 choice. Discussion about whether TB is worth it typically centers around whether ranking a subpar champ justifies it—but I’d never put Sentinel into the subpar category.

    TB has its shortcomings (plenty of threads—you can search under my and @DNA3000 comments) but you may as well go ahead. Sentinel can smash the Variants you haven’t done. I suspect you will get enough T5cc crystals there to give you more rankup dilemmas.

    Dr. Zola

    @DrZola I don't understand the idea of ranking a subpar champ to justify TB. :) Lol
    I was just thinking of getting T5CC with TB, otherwise it will take me a long long....time to form 1 full T5CC like @Aleor mentioned previously.
    Then you should R3 Sentinel. My R3 Tech is Warlock, and he’s probably the only Tech I would R3 ahead of Sentinel (I’m not a Ghost guy).

    As for the Daily, don’t get too excited. The main TB benefits are (a) 5% T5c calendar crystal each month, (b) 5% T5c in the Glory store each week, (c) exclusive TB offers around July 4/Black Friday and (d) reduced 6* featured cost with the Sigil.

    Dr. Zola
  • Doctor_MDoctor_M Member Posts: 54
    Hulkbuster (unawaken)
    DrZola said:

    Doctor_M said:

    DrZola said:

    I wouldn’t be tentative about Sentinel here because I think he’s an obvious R3 choice. Discussion about whether TB is worth it typically centers around whether ranking a subpar champ justifies it—but I’d never put Sentinel into the subpar category.

    TB has its shortcomings (plenty of threads—you can search under my and @DNA3000 comments) but you may as well go ahead. Sentinel can smash the Variants you haven’t done. I suspect you will get enough T5cc crystals there to give you more rankup dilemmas.

    Dr. Zola

    @DrZola I don't understand the idea of ranking a subpar champ to justify TB. :) Lol
    I was just thinking of getting T5CC with TB, otherwise it will take me a long long....time to form 1 full T5CC like @Aleor mentioned previously.
    Then you should R3 Sentinel. My R3 Tech is Warlock, and he’s probably the only Tech I would R3 ahead of Sentinel (I’m not a Ghost guy).

    As for the Daily, don’t get too excited. The main TB benefits are (a) 5% T5c calendar crystal each month, (b) 5% T5c in the Glory store each week, (c) exclusive TB offers around July 4/Black Friday and (d) reduced 6* featured cost with the Sigil.

    Dr. Zola
    @DrZola Perfect answer to my question! You've explained clearly what we get from TB. o:)
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Member Posts: 2,638 ★★★★★
    Hulkbuster (unawaken)
    I think Hulkbuster is more useful all around now, but I always have been a fan of sentinel
  • Ksp_2099Ksp_2099 Member Posts: 735 ★★★
    Sentinel (awaken)
    I would have chose Hulkbuster.
    Only problem with hulkbuster is that his heavy reach is very short range. I do get hit sometimes while spamming heavies.

    But Sentinel attacks benefits at higher rank.
  • The_Sentry06The_Sentry06 Member Posts: 7,803 ★★★★★
    Hulkbuster (unawaken)
    Hulkbuster is a pretty good champ
  • MasterpuffMasterpuff Member Posts: 6,469 ★★★★★
    Sentinel (awaken)
    Hulkbuster is inconsistent or id choose him.
  • Doctor_MDoctor_M Member Posts: 54
    Hulkbuster (unawaken)

    Hulkbuster is inconsistent or id choose him.

    Somehow many people still choose Hulkbuster :D
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  • KerneasKerneas Member Posts: 3,841 ★★★★★
    Sentinel (awaken)
    I am a die-hard Sentinel fan. Even unawakened I would put him over HB. He is useful in 3 Variants, has immunity and excels against mutants (he kills them very very fast, even in contents such as 6.4).
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  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,844 Guardian
    zeezee57 said:

    DrZola said:

    Doctor_M said:

    DrZola said:

    I wouldn’t be tentative about Sentinel here because I think he’s an obvious R3 choice. Discussion about whether TB is worth it typically centers around whether ranking a subpar champ justifies it—but I’d never put Sentinel into the subpar category.

    TB has its shortcomings (plenty of threads—you can search under my and @DNA3000 comments) but you may as well go ahead. Sentinel can smash the Variants you haven’t done. I suspect you will get enough T5cc crystals there to give you more rankup dilemmas.

    Dr. Zola

    @DrZola I don't understand the idea of ranking a subpar champ to justify TB. :) Lol
    I was just thinking of getting T5CC with TB, otherwise it will take me a long long....time to form 1 full T5CC like @Aleor mentioned previously.
    Then you should R3 Sentinel. My R3 Tech is Warlock, and he’s probably the only Tech I would R3 ahead of Sentinel (I’m not a Ghost guy).

    As for the Daily, don’t get too excited. The main TB benefits are (a) 5% T5c calendar crystal each month, (b) 5% T5c in the Glory store each week, (c) exclusive TB offers around July 4/Black Friday and (d) reduced 6* featured cost with the Sigil.

    Dr. Zola
    Even with fairly average luck with them the daily crystals are still a major selling point imo. What you get from cav daily crystals is so insignificant, and I'm sure I'm not alone in always needing more t4b so getting a half of one, at worst, is great to me. In the time I've been TB I'd say I hit well on the dailies 7 times (full t5b twice, full t2a 3 times and 5k 5* shards twice) to go along with the standard drops (half to full t4b, t4cc or 9k t2a) which really add up. I'd wager if you looked at what you get from them over the course of a month or two up against what a month or two of cav dailies gives the results would be pretty staggering.
    Current 30 day average:



    That's the average from my last 115 crystals.

    Also, as an aside, while we technically get one daily crystal per day, no one actually gets one daily crystal per day due to the way that crystal resets. Because I refuse to set an alarm or anything like that to pick up that crystal, the reset time drifts later and later and then eventually I miss a day. Looking at my data, I'm losing about 9% of my dailies to this effect. So actually, my 30 day average for rewards is actually my 30 crystal average, and in fact I'm opening slightly less than that many crystals per month on average (closer to 28-29). It is a small but material effect that adds up over time. Something to keep in mind.
  • Will3808Will3808 Member Posts: 3,802 ★★★★★
    Hulkbuster (unawaken)
    I personally like hulkbuster better than sentinel. Neither is a bad option.
  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,164 ★★★★★
    Sentinel (awaken)
    zeezee57 said:

    DrZola said:

    Doctor_M said:

    DrZola said:

    I wouldn’t be tentative about Sentinel here because I think he’s an obvious R3 choice. Discussion about whether TB is worth it typically centers around whether ranking a subpar champ justifies it—but I’d never put Sentinel into the subpar category.

    TB has its shortcomings (plenty of threads—you can search under my and @DNA3000 comments) but you may as well go ahead. Sentinel can smash the Variants you haven’t done. I suspect you will get enough T5cc crystals there to give you more rankup dilemmas.

    Dr. Zola

    @DrZola I don't understand the idea of ranking a subpar champ to justify TB. :) Lol
    I was just thinking of getting T5CC with TB, otherwise it will take me a long long....time to form 1 full T5CC like @Aleor mentioned previously.
    Then you should R3 Sentinel. My R3 Tech is Warlock, and he’s probably the only Tech I would R3 ahead of Sentinel (I’m not a Ghost guy).

    As for the Daily, don’t get too excited. The main TB benefits are (a) 5% T5c calendar crystal each month, (b) 5% T5c in the Glory store each week, (c) exclusive TB offers around July 4/Black Friday and (d) reduced 6* featured cost with the Sigil.

    Dr. Zola
    Even with fairly average luck with them the daily crystals are still a major selling point imo. What you get from cav daily crystals is so insignificant, and I'm sure I'm not alone in always needing more t4b so getting a half of one, at worst, is great to me. In the time I've been TB I'd say I hit well on the dailies 7 times (full t5b twice, full t2a 3 times and 5k 5* shards twice) to go along with the standard drops (half to full t4b, t4cc or 9k t2a) which really add up. I'd wager if you looked at what you get from them over the course of a month or two up against what a month or two of cav dailies gives the results would be pretty staggering.
    Those would be excellent pulls in my opinion. My stats over a month and a half suggest 2/3 Daily pulls are either 50% T4b, 50% T4c or 10% T5b.

    Not bad overall, but it took me ~45 tries before I pulled a full cat from the Daily that wasn’t a T4c or a T4b (and I only pulled 3 full T4b and a single full T4c over that time).

    But perhaps I’m just an outlier.

    Dr. Zola
  • Doctor_MDoctor_M Member Posts: 54
    Hulkbuster (unawaken)
    DrZola said:

    zeezee57 said:

    DrZola said:

    Doctor_M said:

    DrZola said:

    I wouldn’t be tentative about Sentinel here because I think he’s an obvious R3 choice. Discussion about whether TB is worth it typically centers around whether ranking a subpar champ justifies it—but I’d never put Sentinel into the subpar category.

    TB has its shortcomings (plenty of threads—you can search under my and @DNA3000 comments) but you may as well go ahead. Sentinel can smash the Variants you haven’t done. I suspect you will get enough T5cc crystals there to give you more rankup dilemmas.

    Dr. Zola

    @DrZola I don't understand the idea of ranking a subpar champ to justify TB. :) Lol
    I was just thinking of getting T5CC with TB, otherwise it will take me a long long....time to form 1 full T5CC like @Aleor mentioned previously.
    Then you should R3 Sentinel. My R3 Tech is Warlock, and he’s probably the only Tech I would R3 ahead of Sentinel (I’m not a Ghost guy).

    As for the Daily, don’t get too excited. The main TB benefits are (a) 5% T5c calendar crystal each month, (b) 5% T5c in the Glory store each week, (c) exclusive TB offers around July 4/Black Friday and (d) reduced 6* featured cost with the Sigil.

    Dr. Zola
    Even with fairly average luck with them the daily crystals are still a major selling point imo. What you get from cav daily crystals is so insignificant, and I'm sure I'm not alone in always needing more t4b so getting a half of one, at worst, is great to me. In the time I've been TB I'd say I hit well on the dailies 7 times (full t5b twice, full t2a 3 times and 5k 5* shards twice) to go along with the standard drops (half to full t4b, t4cc or 9k t2a) which really add up. I'd wager if you looked at what you get from them over the course of a month or two up against what a month or two of cav dailies gives the results would be pretty staggering.
    Those would be excellent pulls in my opinion. My stats over a month and a half suggest 2/3 Daily pulls are either 50% T4b, 50% T4c or 10% T5b.

    Not bad overall, but it took me ~45 tries before I pulled a full cat from the Daily that wasn’t a T4c or a T4b (and I only pulled 3 full T4b and a single full T4c over that time).

    But perhaps I’m just an outlier.

    Dr. Zola
    50% T4b, 50% T4c or 10% T5b will be very good for me. These are good rank up materials from R4 to R5 for 5 stars champs.
  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,164 ★★★★★
    Sentinel (awaken)
    Doctor_M said:

    DrZola said:

    zeezee57 said:

    DrZola said:

    Doctor_M said:

    DrZola said:

    I wouldn’t be tentative about Sentinel here because I think he’s an obvious R3 choice. Discussion about whether TB is worth it typically centers around whether ranking a subpar champ justifies it—but I’d never put Sentinel into the subpar category.

    TB has its shortcomings (plenty of threads—you can search under my and @DNA3000 comments) but you may as well go ahead. Sentinel can smash the Variants you haven’t done. I suspect you will get enough T5cc crystals there to give you more rankup dilemmas.

    Dr. Zola

    @DrZola I don't understand the idea of ranking a subpar champ to justify TB. :) Lol
    I was just thinking of getting T5CC with TB, otherwise it will take me a long long....time to form 1 full T5CC like @Aleor mentioned previously.
    Then you should R3 Sentinel. My R3 Tech is Warlock, and he’s probably the only Tech I would R3 ahead of Sentinel (I’m not a Ghost guy).

    As for the Daily, don’t get too excited. The main TB benefits are (a) 5% T5c calendar crystal each month, (b) 5% T5c in the Glory store each week, (c) exclusive TB offers around July 4/Black Friday and (d) reduced 6* featured cost with the Sigil.

    Dr. Zola
    Even with fairly average luck with them the daily crystals are still a major selling point imo. What you get from cav daily crystals is so insignificant, and I'm sure I'm not alone in always needing more t4b so getting a half of one, at worst, is great to me. In the time I've been TB I'd say I hit well on the dailies 7 times (full t5b twice, full t2a 3 times and 5k 5* shards twice) to go along with the standard drops (half to full t4b, t4cc or 9k t2a) which really add up. I'd wager if you looked at what you get from them over the course of a month or two up against what a month or two of cav dailies gives the results would be pretty staggering.
    Those would be excellent pulls in my opinion. My stats over a month and a half suggest 2/3 Daily pulls are either 50% T4b, 50% T4c or 10% T5b.

    Not bad overall, but it took me ~45 tries before I pulled a full cat from the Daily that wasn’t a T4c or a T4b (and I only pulled 3 full T4b and a single full T4c over that time).

    But perhaps I’m just an outlier.

    Dr. Zola
    50% T4b, 50% T4c or 10% T5b will be very good for me. These are good rank up materials from R4 to R5 for 5 stars champs.
    Agreed. It adds up.

    Dr. Zola
  • Doctor_MDoctor_M Member Posts: 54
    Hulkbuster (unawaken)


    Just to close this off, I brought Sentinel to R3 and see this what I got on the second day of being a TB.

    @DrZola @zeezee57 @Defenestrated @Aleor
  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,164 ★★★★★
    edited March 2021
    Sentinel (awaken)
    Doctor_M said:



    Just to close this off, I brought Sentinel to R3 and see this what I got on the second day of being a TB.

    @DrZola @zeezee57 @Defenestrated @Aleor

    Lucky dog...

    See? Sentinel was the correct choice!

    Dr. Zola
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