CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.
If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.
Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.
If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.
Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
But for now CGR is still a meta champion. Plus he does have SOME utility unlike Domino.
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.
If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.
Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.
Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.
No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.
If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.
Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.
Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.
No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"
To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.
For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.
Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.
Armor breaks = short
Power drains = weak
incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin
Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost
Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.
If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.
Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.
Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.
No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"
To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.
For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.
Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.
Armor breaks = short
Power drains = weak
incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin
Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost
Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.
If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.
Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.
Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.
No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"
To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.
For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.
Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.
Armor breaks = short
Power drains = weak
incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin
Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost
Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up
I’m not gassing him.
You must have dementia cuz the past 2 pages of this thread have been you mindlessly arguing with others about why Red Goblin is better than CGR
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.
If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.
Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.
Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.
No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"
To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.
For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.
Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.
Armor breaks = short
Power drains = weak
incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin
Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost
Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up
Wouldn't say he is average exactly but yea, not on CGR's level and has many shortcomings.
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.
If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.
Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.
Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.
No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"
To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.
For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.
Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.
Armor breaks = short
Power drains = weak
incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin
Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost
Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up
I’m not gassing him.
Bruh why are you calling him Cgr level then
Sent to approval.
He is, just don’t think CGR is all hyped up. I like them both, but too much disrespect on red goblins name.
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.
If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.
Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.
Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.
No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"
To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.
For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.
Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.
Armor breaks = short
Power drains = weak
incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin
Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost
Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up
I’m not gassing him.
You must have dementia cuz the past 2 pages of this thread have been you mindlessly arguing with others about why Red Goblin is better than CGR
More useful. Not better, I think overall they are on the same level.
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.
If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.
Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.
Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.
No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"
To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.
For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.
Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.
Armor breaks = short
Power drains = weak
incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin
Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost
Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up
I’m not gassing him.
You must have dementia cuz the past 2 pages of this thread have been you mindlessly arguing with others about why Red Goblin is better than CGR
More useful. Not better, I think overall they are on the same level.
Do you have a CGR that you've tested in high level content because CGR is literally 20x the champion Meh Goblin is
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.
If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.
Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.
Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.
No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"
To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.
For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.
Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.
Armor breaks = short
Power drains = weak
incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin
Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost
Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up
I’m not gassing him.
You must have dementia cuz the past 2 pages of this thread have been you mindlessly arguing with others about why Red Goblin is better than CGR
More useful. Not better, I think overall they are on the same level.
Do you have a CGR that you've tested in high level content because CGR is literally 20x the champion Meh Goblin is
Ehh you 're making Red Goblin to be some trash champion but he isn't. Neither is Red Goblin on the same tier as CGR.
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.
If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.
Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.
Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.
No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"
To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.
For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.
Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.
Armor breaks = short
Power drains = weak
incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin
Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost
Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up
I’m not gassing him.
You must have dementia cuz the past 2 pages of this thread have been you mindlessly arguing with others about why Red Goblin is better than CGR
More useful. Not better, I think overall they are on the same level.
Do you have a CGR that you've tested in high level content because CGR is literally 20x the champion Meh Goblin is
Ehh you 're making Red Goblin to be some trash champion but he isn't. Neither is Red Goblin on the same tier as CGR.
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.
If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.
Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.
Here's a newsflash for you: CGR has more utility than Red Goblin. Did you know that CGR's damage comes from his utility? Or to put it better, CGR's massive utility contributes to his damage cycle and output.
Let's list his UTILITY out:
1) 8 buffs: Armour Up, Vigilance, Power Gain, Aptitude, Cruelty, Unblockable, Precision, Fury
2) 2 damaging debuffs: Incinerate & Damnation
3) 4 non-damaging debuffs: Power Lock, Heal Block, Fate Seal, Armour Break (can stack up to 17)
4) 2 immunities: Bleed & Incinerate
5) 5 additional bits of utility: Cosmic Penance Stare, SP1 reduces Block Proficiency, SP1 removes Perfect Block Chance, each hit of his SP2 removes 1 Armour Up buff & he has one of the highest Block Proficiency values in the game
That's 21 pieces of UTILITY.
So please don't compare CGR to Domino, he's not going anywhere.
also, Roblin, Sasquatch, and Guardian should be higher.
iHulk, Apocalypse, Mole Man, and Longshot should be lower
Red Goblin is the worst cosmic champion released since Heimdall Sasquatch is a prime example of all damage and 0 utility Guardian I can see the argument, defo top 5 where his sig ability works (any energy matchup)
You need to get an Apocalypse because he's OP
The worst since Heimdall? did you forget about VTD? The Champion?
VTD, in my book, is the best champ in game for one part; Incursions. Maybe not questing or alliance-based stuff, but I have gone to room 15 with him plenty of times.
VTD is a D tier cosmic champion in the game, literally 0 utility, RNG based buffs, and 12 seconds buffs at that. Absolutely awful champion.
Not being funny but I was shredding variants with my 4* VTD when you were asking for a “middle difficulty”.
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.
If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.
Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.
Here's a newsflash for you: CGR has more utility than Red Goblin. Did you know that CGR's damage comes from his utility? Or to put it better, CGR's massive utility contributes to his damage cycle and output.
Let's list his UTILITY out:
1) 8 buffs: Armour Up, Vigilance, Power Gain, Aptitude, Cruelty, Unblockable, Precision, Fury
2) 2 damaging debuffs: Incinerate & Damnation
3) 4 non-damaging debuffs: Power Lock, Heal Block, Fate Seal, Armour Break (can stack up to 17)
4) 2 immunities: Bleed & Incinerate
5) 5 additional bits of utility: Cosmic Penance Stare, SP1 reduces Block Proficiency, SP1 removes Perfect Block Chance, each hit of his SP2 removes 1 Armour Up buff & he has one of the highest Block Proficiency values in the game
That's 21 pieces of UTILITY.
So please don't compare CGR to Domino, he's not going anywhere.
I find it so funny when people mindlessly say that CGR has no or little utility, while in reality he’s got great utility. His damage is so bonkers that people always overlook his utility.
also, Roblin, Sasquatch, and Guardian should be higher.
iHulk, Apocalypse, Mole Man, and Longshot should be lower
Red Goblin is the worst cosmic champion released since Heimdall Sasquatch is a prime example of all damage and 0 utility Guardian I can see the argument, defo top 5 where his sig ability works (any energy matchup)
You need to get an Apocalypse because he's OP
The worst since Heimdall? did you forget about VTD? The Champion?
VTD, in my book, is the best champ in game for one part; Incursions. Maybe not questing or alliance-based stuff, but I have gone to room 15 with him plenty of times.
VTD is a D tier cosmic champion in the game, literally 0 utility, RNG based buffs, and 12 seconds buffs at that. Absolutely awful champion.
Not being funny but I was shredding variants with my 4* VTD when you were asking for a “middle difficulty”.
I'll begin by making my list (Will be mostly unbiased and based on my personal experience playing these champions). Feel free to agree/disagree with my list and/or create your own list and others will discuss that with you.
My list:
1. Apocalypse 2. CGR 3. Mole Man 4. Sorcerer Supreme 5. Professor X 6. Tigra 7. Dragon Man 8. Guardian 9. iHulk 10. iBom 11. Terrax 12. Spider-Ham 13. Longshot 14. Mojo 15. Storm X 16. Red Guardian 17. Hit-Monkey 18. Sasquatch 19. Red Goblin 20. BWDO 21. Air-Walker 22. Squirrel Girl 23. Nova
1. Apoc 2. Cgr 3. Sorcerer supreme 4. Prof X 5. Guardian 6. Ibom 7. Mole man 8. Dragon man 9. Longshot 10. Spider Ham 11. Tigra 12. Red Guardian 13. Hit Monkey 14. Mojo 15. Sasquatch 16. Terrax 17. Storm pyramid X 18. I hulk 19. Roblin 20. Squirrel Girl 21. Air walker 22. Nova
I with this except nova should be higher than air walker. He's not great, but he isn't a meme. I'd put him over terrax, too.
You must be playing a different nova because maybe nova is better than air-walker though i don't think so and there is no way that nova is better than terrax right now
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.
If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.
Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Why did domino stop being a meta champ? Lack of reliable utility as well as consistent and dependable damage.
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.
If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.
Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.
Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.
No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"
To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.
For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.
Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.
Armor breaks = short
Power drains = weak
incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin
Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost
Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up
I’m not gassing him.
You must have dementia cuz the past 2 pages of this thread have been you mindlessly arguing with others about why Red Goblin is better than CGR
More useful. Not better, I think overall they are on the same level.
Do you have a CGR that you've tested in high level content because CGR is literally 20x the champion Meh Goblin is
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.
If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.
Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.
Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.
No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
Red Goblin doesn't have a "crazy amount of utility"
To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.
For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.
Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.
Armor breaks = short
Power drains = weak
incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin
Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost
Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up
I’m not gassing him.
You must have dementia cuz the past 2 pages of this thread have been you mindlessly arguing with others about why Red Goblin is better than CGR
More useful. Not better, I think overall they are on the same level.
Do you have a CGR that you've tested in high level content because CGR is literally 20x the champion Meh Goblin is
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.
If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.
Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Why did domino stop being a meta champ? Lack of reliable utility as well as consistent and dependable damage.
Because the keyword “reliable utility” and damage was no longer as important. Assuming you were using the flaming trinity of course.
CGR will be the next CMM. Red goblin is here to stay because there is not many champs like him.
CGR is above Apocalypse and Guardian is top 5 for me
CGR is not above apoc , don’t let the numbers fool you. Apoc does more for anyone’s roster than CGR will do.
Exactly. He has utility and insane synergies as well as a solid damage output. CGR has amazing damage but far less utility and many champions already have damage.
Yeah, I get so confused, like Prof X is almost better than CGR IMO. Also with the protect meta , I’m sure he is not as effective.
If someone was in act 6 and 7 I’m pretty sure Those two champs would put in major work.
Red goblin actually puts in more work than CGR as well.
Roblin and Prof X over CGR 💀. You're good at trolling. Better than me
CGR is a fantastic champ; but generally not as game changing as you think.
As an owner of a 5* CGR, I can say that he is quite game changing, especially if you don’t have an extremely developed roster. He is very fun to play, and quite easy to get a rotation down when you find one. You can’t just shrug off CGR as not gamechanging when it’s quite easy to constantly hit 10-15k mediums, and destroy people with his sp2.
You will soon see why domino stopped being a meta champ, and why champs like Falcon have skated to the top.
Because Falcon doesn't have unreliable utility? CGR's entire kit is reliable with synergies and still insanely overpowered without. Roblin on the other hand requires a lot of investment and requires ramp up in a quest to actually counter something well. If anything, Roblin will fall out and a buffed champ might replace him
No because the game has shifted from valuing damage to more utility based characters.
Here's a newsflash for you: CGR has more utility than Red Goblin. Did you know that CGR's damage comes from his utility? Or to put it better, CGR's massive utility contributes to his damage cycle and output.
Let's list his UTILITY out:
1) 8 buffs: Armour Up, Vigilance, Power Gain, Aptitude, Cruelty, Unblockable, Precision, Fury
2) 2 damaging debuffs: Incinerate & Damnation
3) 4 non-damaging debuffs: Power Lock, Heal Block, Fate Seal, Armour Break (can stack up to 17)
4) 2 immunities: Bleed & Incinerate
5) 5 additional bits of utility: Cosmic Penance Stare, SP1 reduces Block Proficiency, SP1 removes Perfect Block Chance, each hit of his SP2 removes 1 Armour Up buff & he has one of the highest Block Proficiency values in the game
That's 21 pieces of UTILITY.
So please don't compare CGR to Domino, he's not going anywhere.
1.) That’s basically all cosmic champs
2.) I’ll give you that but what cycle is CGR Using the SP1? I’ll give it you you though.
3.) his damnation buff lasting last 6 seconds, it’s not something you plan in the fight it’s something that happens naturally and you still need to get 5 judgments on to trigger it.
4.) great immunities check.
5.) you are basically just giving the abilities of any champ that is incinerated. He has great BP , but guess who also has the same BP as him?
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Yes he does require a lot of investment .The pay off is kinda nice , but not necessary.
No point in debating this, CGR is close to being 100% the best damage dealer in the game. Red goblin is a powerful champ with a crazy amount of utility.
To access his best utility to need to do an sp3 to counter autoblock and miss for 20 seconds. By the time you reach and sp3 (ideally you do an sp1 first), the match is already well in and they would've missed or autoblocked countless times.
For his evade counter, it's good but Venom does it better and hits so much harder right off the bat.
Incinerate immunity, cool. Don't know what else to say. Guess you can enjoy using him vs Human Torch or something.
Armor breaks = short
Power drains = weak
incinerates = meh on his own, great with Odin
Needs a super long ramp up to become a decent champion and loses part of his ramp up if a fight is lost
Super average champion, really don't know how you're gassing him up
He is, just don’t think CGR is all hyped up. I like them both, but too much disrespect on red goblins name.
Let's list his UTILITY out:
1) 8 buffs: Armour Up, Vigilance, Power Gain, Aptitude, Cruelty, Unblockable, Precision, Fury
2) 2 damaging debuffs: Incinerate & Damnation
3) 4 non-damaging debuffs: Power Lock, Heal Block, Fate Seal, Armour Break (can stack up to 17)
4) 2 immunities: Bleed & Incinerate
5) 5 additional bits of utility: Cosmic Penance Stare, SP1 reduces Block Proficiency, SP1 removes Perfect Block Chance, each hit of his SP2 removes 1 Armour Up buff & he has one of the highest Block Proficiency values in the game
That's 21 pieces of UTILITY.
So please don't compare CGR to Domino, he's not going anywhere.
Not being funny but I was shredding variants with my 4* VTD when you were asking for a “middle difficulty”.
2. Cgr
3. Sorcerer supreme
4. Prof X
5. Guardian
6. Ibom
7. Mole man
8. Dragon man
9. Longshot
10. Spider Ham
11. Tigra
12. Red Guardian
13. Hit Monkey
14. Mojo
15. Sasquatch
16. Terrax
17. Storm pyramid X
18. I hulk
19. Roblin
20. Squirrel Girl
21. Air walker
22. Nova
CGR will be the next CMM. Red goblin is here to stay because there is not many champs like him.
2.) I’ll give you that but what cycle is CGR Using the SP1? I’ll give it you you though.
3.) his damnation buff lasting last 6 seconds, it’s not something you plan in the fight it’s something that happens naturally and you still need to get 5 judgments on to trigger it.
4.) great immunities check.
5.) you are basically just giving the abilities of any champ that is incinerated. He has great BP , but guess who also has the same BP as him?