KT1s 1st tier list: Good, bad, unnecessary?

My favorite mcoc youtuber KT1 has (reluctantly, as he says) released his 1st tier list (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Gz9qK4EPb2rtOK68wQ04sHZn4p-FFDcz4XWvmcErQfo/edit#gid=0, link to video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb0FWE5iv7I&t=19s).

It consists of only 5 categories (Top of the game, meta, useful, occasionally useful, useless) and there are some differences compares to other tier lists you'll know.

What do you think about it?

Comments

avenge_123

how's guardian in 3rd tier?

avenge_123

damn he's better than HB, sentinel

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Zeroj2k

I hear he'll beat the collector for you too for 50 quid

AMS94

I don't think there's any need fr tier lists in this game....but out of all the lists I've seen, this one seems to be the one that I agree the most with
U cn see that KT has given it a lot of time & thought & has set some good rules fr the future of his list

Gamer

Don’t care I’m r op who I’m enjoying to use and who I’m fine good tier list for is is just a mini guide when first started

Lvernon15

Tier lists suck, and every one of them is too opinionated, kt’s especially

Ben93

Seriously ? Venom the 2nd best cosmic champ ?...

Rohit_316

This poll makes no sense at all ... it's his personal opinion that's what he thinks , just like Seatin, Vega and many others . If you like/dislike it's fine ..but don't say that is a bad tier list and all those things ..

If you blindly follow it, then it's a mistake on your part.

SpideyFunko

tier lists are stupid

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Andyball270

Seriously ? Venom the 2nd best cosmic champ ?...

He specifically mentions Venom as number 2 due to his overall usefulness in the game. And it does make sense. I used Venom for a LOT of Variant content. I use him in monthly sometimes. I use him in aq map 7 on the Spiderman lanes. I've used him in a lot of Story content as well. He isn't the 2nd best because hes always the 2nd best champ because under different circumstances he isn't ahead of some of the others. But overall in terms of the amount of different content that he is often useful for i think that's a relatively fair argument. Thats not to say there isnt an argument for other champs at number 2, but its not an outlandish statement when you think about it

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ThatGuyYouSaw235

Okay seriously, if Ebony Maw is out of the Useless tier, Air-Walker should be as well.

Zeroj2k

I'm confused why BWCV didn't make the list

she's a utility knife I recently pulled her and finding her so useful

Malreck04

Next time, make an option "Don't know, don't care"

Berjibs

Next time, make an option "Don't know, don't care"

That option is there. Don’t open the post. 🤷🏽‍♂️

Giuliameij

I might not fully agree with every single placement. But I have been thinking about a different structure for tier lists for a long time. KT's comes really close to it.
If you bring up the champs on the left you are pretty much garanteed to be able to clear all pieces of content without many problems. They might not all be the best at what they do. But because those champs can do a lot of very usefull things they are ranked that high.
Same as with the 4 horsemen for Abyss. They might not be the single best option for every specific fight. But because they can do pretty much all the fights amongst the 4 of them, they are pretty much the best champs for the content. (althou there have been some releases like Prof X that can do abyss extremely well also)

Andyball270

I particulary liked the fact that there will never be more than 20 champs in the top tier. Made a lot of sense to me doing it that way

TrashyPanda

It's better than average, but that's not saying anything.

It's coming from his PoV, which is beyond 'just endgame'. For instance, not including champs that don't have a 6* version. The list is also quite influenced by AW, which a lot of us don't even play.

I like his empasis on this being his opinion (obvious, but it needs to be said), as well as his recommendation of needs-based rank-ups.

Like, I don't think Venom is 2nd best Cosmic (available as 6*) unless you haven't done (m)any variants. If you get Venom early, he may very well be the best Cosmic you can take to 5r5/6r2. More Variants done, more resources gained, more progress made.

It all depends on your situation.

DawsMan

damn he's better than HB, sentinel

Because he bases it on fact as much as possible. Guardian is great, but he is not meta. He's useful. If I need shock, non crit damage, ramp up special two, I grab guardian. On my everyday questing team? No.

DawsMan

It's better than average, but that's not saying anything.

It's coming from his PoV, which is beyond 'just endgame'. For instance, not including champs that don't have a 6* version. The list is also quite influenced by AW, which a lot of us don't even play.

I like his empasis on this being his opinion (obvious, but it needs to be said), as well as his recommendation of needs-based rank-ups.

Like, I don't think Venom is 2nd best Cosmic (available as 6*) unless you haven't done (m)any variants. If you get Venom early, he may very well be the best Cosmic you can take to 5r5/6r2. More Variants done, more resources gained, more progress made.

It all depends on your situation.

He's a big advocate on the Variants that's why he rates Venom so highly.

DawsMan

Okay seriously, if Ebony Maw is out of the Useless tier, Air-Walker should be as well.

Why.

AndyBeardo

I'm confused why BWCV didn't make the list she's a utility knife I recently pulled her and finding her so useful

she is in the "top of the game" category

The_Flying_Jew82

It is his opinion and he is entitled to it. If you don't like it, don't watch it. IMO I prefer his tier list ... it makes sense. He is letting you know the value of champs based on content. No list is perfect, but I respect his opinion.

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Will3808

I pretty much completely agree with where he put everyone. I’d move guardian and sym supreme up a bit and move Thor and moleman down one but that’s about it. Granted I would like to say tier lists are completely people opinions and don’t really matter other than as a quick reference, but it’s cool to see that I have similar opinions to him.

AssumedName

Stryfes placement is an actual joke.

Guardian should be moved up and Thor down.

Not bad overall.

SirGamesBond

Hmm, okay

Andyball270

In the case of all the debate about wheither the tier list is needed etc it provides more content for his viewers and also a perspective into how he sees the game. I quite enjoyed it. The great thing about it is watching it is COMPLETLEY optional to watch and if these kind of things arent your cup of tea you dont have to watch them