KT1s 1st tier list: Good, bad, unnecessary?

My favorite mcoc youtuber KT1 has (reluctantly, as he says) released his 1st tier list (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Gz9qK4EPb2rtOK68wQ04sHZn4p-FFDcz4XWvmcErQfo/edit#gid=0, link to video

It consists of only 5 categories (Top of the game, meta, useful, occasionally useful, useless) and there are some differences compares to other tier lists you'll know.

What do you think about it?

KT1s 1st tier list: Good, bad, unnecessary? 146 votes

Very good tier list, will help advancing players pick the right champs to rank up
27%
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Decent tier list but I don't agree with everything
23%
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I don't agree with a lot here. Many champs are over/underrated
14%
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I don't care about those tier lists at all, everyone should find out for himself which champs are great
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WTF why is (think of your favorite champ) not god tier? I'll quit the game right now!!!!!
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Comments

  • AMS94AMS94 Posts: 74
    I don't care about those tier lists at all, everyone should find out for himself which champs are great
    I don't think there's any need fr tier lists in this game....but out of all the lists I've seen, this one seems to be the one that I agree the most with
    U cn see that KT has given it a lot of time & thought & has set some good rules fr the future of his list
  • GamerGamer Posts: 7,773 ★★★★★
    Don’t care I’m r op who I’m enjoying to use and who I’m fine good tier list for is is just a mini guide when first started
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Posts: 16,302 ★★★★★
    I don't care about those tier lists at all, everyone should find out for himself which champs are great
    tier lists are stupid
  • Haji_SaabHaji_Saab Posts: 5,482 ★★★★★
    His thinking is similar to mine. Just because you like a champs playstyle does not mean that the champion is effective. Overall pretty much in agreement with the positions.

    Obvious disagreement is on Havok. People keep under-rating him and I like that. :D
  • Zeroj2kZeroj2k Posts: 77
    I don't agree with a lot here. Many champs are over/underrated
    I'm confused why BWCV didn't make the list :open_mouth: she's a utility knife I recently pulled her and finding her so useful
  • Malreck04Malreck04 Posts: 408 ★★★
    Next time, make an option "Don't know, don't care"
  • BerjibsBerjibs Posts: 1,254 ★★★★
    I don't care about those tier lists at all, everyone should find out for himself which champs are great
    Malreck04 said:

    Next time, make an option "Don't know, don't care"

    That option is there. Don’t open the post. 🤷🏽‍♂️
  • GiuliameijGiuliameij Posts: 1,036 ★★★
    Very good tier list, will help advancing players pick the right champs to rank up
    I might not fully agree with every single placement. But I have been thinking about a different structure for tier lists for a long time. KT's comes really close to it.
    If you bring up the champs on the left you are pretty much garanteed to be able to clear all pieces of content without many problems. They might not all be the best at what they do. But because those champs can do a lot of very usefull things they are ranked that high.
    Same as with the 4 horsemen for Abyss. They might not be the single best option for every specific fight. But because they can do pretty much all the fights amongst the 4 of them, they are pretty much the best champs for the content. (althou there have been some releases like Prof X that can do abyss extremely well also)
  • Andyball270Andyball270 Posts: 234 ★★★
    Very good tier list, will help advancing players pick the right champs to rank up
    I particulary liked the fact that there will never be more than 20 champs in the top tier. Made a lot of sense to me doing it that way
  • DawsManDawsMan Posts: 754 ★★★
    edited June 11

    damn he's better than HB, sentinel

    Because he bases it on fact as much as possible. Guardian is great, but he is not meta. He's useful. If I need shock, non crit damage, ramp up special two, I grab guardian. On my everyday questing team? No.
  • DawsManDawsMan Posts: 754 ★★★

    It's better than average, but that's not saying anything.

    It's coming from his PoV, which is beyond 'just endgame'. For instance, not including champs that don't have a 6* version. The list is also quite influenced by AW, which a lot of us don't even play.

    I like his empasis on this being his opinion (obvious, but it needs to be said), as well as his recommendation of needs-based rank-ups.

    Like, I don't think Venom is 2nd best Cosmic (available as 6*) unless you haven't done (m)any variants. If you get Venom early, he may very well be the best Cosmic you can take to 5r5/6r2. More Variants done, more resources gained, more progress made.

    It all depends on your situation.

    He's a big advocate on the Variants that's why he rates Venom so highly.
  • DawsManDawsMan Posts: 754 ★★★

    Okay seriously, if Ebony Maw is out of the Useless tier, Air-Walker should be as well.

    Why.
  • AndyBeardoAndyBeardo Posts: 129
    Zeroj2k said:

    I'm confused why BWCV didn't make the list :open_mouth: she's a utility knife I recently pulled her and finding her so useful

    she is in the "top of the game" category
  • The_Flying_Jew82The_Flying_Jew82 Posts: 17
    Very good tier list, will help advancing players pick the right champs to rank up
    It is his opinion and he is entitled to it. If you don't like it, don't watch it. IMO I prefer his tier list ... it makes sense. He is letting you know the value of champs based on content. No list is perfect, but I respect his opinion.
  • booscka2536booscka2536 Posts: 688 ★★★
    kt1 is a dropkick .
  • Will3808Will3808 Posts: 2,778 ★★★★
    Very good tier list, will help advancing players pick the right champs to rank up
    I pretty much completely agree with where he put everyone. I’d move guardian and sym supreme up a bit and move Thor and moleman down one but that’s about it. Granted I would like to say tier lists are completely people opinions and don’t really matter other than as a quick reference, but it’s cool to see that I have similar opinions to him.
  • AssumedNameAssumedName Posts: 462 ★★
    Decent tier list but I don't agree with everything
    Stryfes placement is an actual joke.

    Guardian should be moved up and Thor down.

    Not bad overall.
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Posts: 108
    Hmm, okay
  • Andyball270Andyball270 Posts: 234 ★★★
    Very good tier list, will help advancing players pick the right champs to rank up
    In the case of all the debate about wheither the tier list is needed etc it provides more content for his viewers and also a perspective into how he sees the game. I quite enjoyed it. The great thing about it is watching it is COMPLETLEY optional to watch and if these kind of things arent your cup of tea you dont have to watch them
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