What if Elsa got buffed?

Texas_11Texas_11 Member Posts: 2,638 ★★★★★
edited June 2021 in Suggestions and Requests
What do you guys think she will need in order to be better.

If I had to think about it, I would like a fury added to her kit; I would also like busted debuffs to also act as a passive heal block.

I would like for disorient to stack on reload instead of one stack.
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  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,025 ★★★★★
    Don't duplicate your threads
  • Shock29Shock29 Member Posts: 574 ★★★
    Negative_100 said:

    You made the thread!!! lol

    He actually already made it but it was only up for a minute or two before it was deleted.
    This is the second attempt
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Member Posts: 2,638 ★★★★★
    Eb0ny-O-M4w said:

    Don't duplicate your threads

    It was deleted. Before I could add a comment in.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    I figure I’ll copy and paste my suggestion here, as it’s specifically about an Elsa buff


    I’d love her non damaging debuff shrug off to be faster, it’s a little annoying against void to get up to 5 ticks of damage, especially when he can tick for up to 600, meaning 3000 damage from one debuff. Even more if his attack is boosted further from nodes.

    Also, as a nice to have, let her select rounds at the start of the fight so you can choose to apply incinerate or coldsnap
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Member Posts: 2,638 ★★★★★
    FluffyPigMonster said:


    Can you imagine puff if Ronin becomes a monster and Elsa gets left behind.

    I also was chatting on the merged ronin thread I had some ideas, but Elsa wasn’t to sure what I would be looking for out of her.

    Curious to see what people think she would need if they think she is not a good champ in their eyes.
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Member Posts: 2,638 ★★★★★
    BitterSteel said:

    I figure I’ll copy and paste my suggestion here, as it’s specifically about an Elsa buff


    I’d love her non damaging debuff shrug off to be faster, it’s a little annoying against void to get up to 5 ticks of damage, especially when he can tick for up to 600, meaning 3000 damage from one debuff. Even more if his attack is boosted further from nodes.

    Also, as a nice to have, let her select rounds at the start of the fight so you can choose to apply incinerate or coldsnap

    I do think every skill champ should have disorient in their kit , she doesn’t have that.

    I also like your idea of pre fights for rounds.
  • DeaconDeacon Member Posts: 4,254 ★★★★★
    Elsa is already amaze
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Member Posts: 2,638 ★★★★★
    DeaconVelvet said:

    Elsa is already amaze

    I think so, but if ronin gets a buff that would make her less desirable.

    As skill class gets more powerful, Elsa slowly starts falling behind , mainly because the damage output gap will get wider.
  • DeaconDeacon Member Posts: 4,254 ★★★★★
    she already has great damage though especially when duped. i don't know why Elsa is even in a debate as not good. she is one of my favorite champs and is so clutch in many situations especially unique ones. debuff shrug, bypass stun immunity, evade counter, incinerate counter .. crazy SP2 damage and her degen mechanic is often useful outside of AW.

    to each their own though i suppose but she's one of my favorites. to answer the question though ... she could use one more round type to add a petrify on the defender ..that would be killer lol
  • DawsManDawsMan Member Posts: 2,169 ★★★★★
    Hammerbro_64 said:

    I have a great Elsa buff idea with just a few tweaks it could make her an undisputed top 3 skill (even to those Ronin weirdos)

    Character Class: SKILL
    Basic Abilities: Bleed, Cruelty, Precision, Disorient



    PASSIVE
    • When Elsa would Miss an Attack or be Evaded she gains a Cruelty Passive increasing Critical Damage by 247.19. Max 7 stacks.

    SWORD ATTACKS
    • Attacks using the Sword has a 15% chance to inflict Bleed dealing 413.7 Direct Damage over 7 seconds. Critical Strikes using the Sword have a 100% to inflict Bleed.
    • Intercepting attacks has +666.67 Critical Rating.
    • Against Bleed Immune Champions gain a Cruelty Passive when Elsa would inflict a Bleed.

    STANCE PREPARATION
    • Elsa prepares her Stances by performing light attacks. Light 1 prepares Guard Stance, Light 2 prepares Wraith Stance, and Light 3 prepares Demon Stance.
    • Dodging back after preparing a stance makes Elsa enter a Stance. Stances are not affected by Ability Accuracy Reduction.
    • When entering a new Stance, gain a Cruelty Passive increasing Critical Damage by 247.19. Max 7 stacks.
    WHEN ENTERING A STANCE
    • When reaching 7 Cruelty Passives, gain a Precision Passive increasing Critical Rating by 3714.29 for 15 seconds.
    GUARD STANCE
    • Well Timed Blocks activate the Parry Mastery, stunning opponents even if their attack is projectile based. Elsa gains +35% chance to Perfect Block.
    • Entering this stance has a 100% chance to Purify a Debuff.
    WRAITH STANCE
    • All attacks reduce Defensive Ability Accuracy by 40%.
    DEMON STANCE
    • All Bleeds gain +75% Ability Accuracy and can be inflicted on Blocked hits.
    SPECIAL 1: Ambush from the Mists
    • A surprise smoke bomb throw allows an opening for a swift somersault and sword strike combination.
    • Disorients the opponent reducing Defensive Ability Accuracy by 40% and Block Proficiency by 50% for 8 seconds.
    • Enters a prepared Stance.

    SPECIAL 2: Split the River
    • A deadly throwing star creates space for a high-flying acrobatic cutting maneuver.
    • Inflicts a Bleed that deals 413.7 Direct Damage over 7 seconds for each active Cruelty Passive.
    • Removes all Cruelty Passives.

    SPECIAL 3: Marksman’s Revenge
    • Utilizing her sword and bow, Elsa splits an arrow on her blade for a special two-for-one assault.
    • Gain a Fury Passive increasing Attack Rating by 236.4 for 35 seconds. Each active Cruelty Passive increases the Attack Rating by an additional 236.4.
    • Removes all Cruelty Passives.

    SIGNATURE ABILITY: Unrelenting Agility - When Attacked
    • While at 7 Cruelty Passives, Elsa gains Evasion on the next incoming hit for 1.50 seconds. Removes all Cruelty Passives when Elsa Evades an attack. Successful Evades do not grant Stance Abilities.
    • When Elsa Evades an attack, gain a Fury Passive increasing Attack Rating by 236.17 for 7 seconds.
    🙃😁
    This looks like ronin's abilities and nobody claims that he is top three skill so how would giving Elsa his kit make her top three skill?
  • Hammerbro_64Hammerbro_64 Member Posts: 7,463 ★★★★★
    Yes that’s the joke Daws
  • H3t3rH3t3r Member, Guardian Posts: 2,882 Guardian
    Literally only want a pre fight so I can choose what rounds to start with. Thats it.
  • H3t3rH3t3r Member, Guardian Posts: 2,882 Guardian
    DawsMan said:

    Hammerbro_64 said:

    I have a great Elsa buff idea with just a few tweaks it could make her an undisputed top 3 skill (even to those Ronin weirdos)

    Character Class: SKILL
    Basic Abilities: Bleed, Cruelty, Precision, Disorient



    PASSIVE
    • When Elsa would Miss an Attack or be Evaded she gains a Cruelty Passive increasing Critical Damage by 247.19. Max 7 stacks.

    SWORD ATTACKS
    • Attacks using the Sword has a 15% chance to inflict Bleed dealing 413.7 Direct Damage over 7 seconds. Critical Strikes using the Sword have a 100% to inflict Bleed.
    • Intercepting attacks has +666.67 Critical Rating.
    • Against Bleed Immune Champions gain a Cruelty Passive when Elsa would inflict a Bleed.

    STANCE PREPARATION
    • Elsa prepares her Stances by performing light attacks. Light 1 prepares Guard Stance, Light 2 prepares Wraith Stance, and Light 3 prepares Demon Stance.
    • Dodging back after preparing a stance makes Elsa enter a Stance. Stances are not affected by Ability Accuracy Reduction.
    • When entering a new Stance, gain a Cruelty Passive increasing Critical Damage by 247.19. Max 7 stacks.
    WHEN ENTERING A STANCE
    • When reaching 7 Cruelty Passives, gain a Precision Passive increasing Critical Rating by 3714.29 for 15 seconds.
    GUARD STANCE
    • Well Timed Blocks activate the Parry Mastery, stunning opponents even if their attack is projectile based. Elsa gains +35% chance to Perfect Block.
    • Entering this stance has a 100% chance to Purify a Debuff.
    WRAITH STANCE
    • All attacks reduce Defensive Ability Accuracy by 40%.
    DEMON STANCE
    • All Bleeds gain +75% Ability Accuracy and can be inflicted on Blocked hits.
    SPECIAL 1: Ambush from the Mists
    • A surprise smoke bomb throw allows an opening for a swift somersault and sword strike combination.
    • Disorients the opponent reducing Defensive Ability Accuracy by 40% and Block Proficiency by 50% for 8 seconds.
    • Enters a prepared Stance.

    SPECIAL 2: Split the River
    • A deadly throwing star creates space for a high-flying acrobatic cutting maneuver.
    • Inflicts a Bleed that deals 413.7 Direct Damage over 7 seconds for each active Cruelty Passive.
    • Removes all Cruelty Passives.

    SPECIAL 3: Marksman’s Revenge
    • Utilizing her sword and bow, Elsa splits an arrow on her blade for a special two-for-one assault.
    • Gain a Fury Passive increasing Attack Rating by 236.4 for 35 seconds. Each active Cruelty Passive increases the Attack Rating by an additional 236.4.
    • Removes all Cruelty Passives.

    SIGNATURE ABILITY: Unrelenting Agility - When Attacked
    • While at 7 Cruelty Passives, Elsa gains Evasion on the next incoming hit for 1.50 seconds. Removes all Cruelty Passives when Elsa Evades an attack. Successful Evades do not grant Stance Abilities.
    • When Elsa Evades an attack, gain a Fury Passive increasing Attack Rating by 236.17 for 7 seconds.
    🙃😁
    This looks like ronin's abilities and nobody claims that he is top three skill so how would giving Elsa his kit make her top three skill?
    Think he copy pasted parts of ronins abilities and just changed everything to include elsas name lmao.
  • DawsManDawsMan Member Posts: 2,169 ★★★★★
    H3t3r said:

    DawsMan said:

    Hammerbro_64 said:

    I have a great Elsa buff idea with just a few tweaks it could make her an undisputed top 3 skill (even to those Ronin weirdos)

    Character Class: SKILL
    Basic Abilities: Bleed, Cruelty, Precision, Disorient



    PASSIVE
    • When Elsa would Miss an Attack or be Evaded she gains a Cruelty Passive increasing Critical Damage by 247.19. Max 7 stacks.

    SWORD ATTACKS
    • Attacks using the Sword has a 15% chance to inflict Bleed dealing 413.7 Direct Damage over 7 seconds. Critical Strikes using the Sword have a 100% to inflict Bleed.
    • Intercepting attacks has +666.67 Critical Rating.
    • Against Bleed Immune Champions gain a Cruelty Passive when Elsa would inflict a Bleed.

    STANCE PREPARATION
    • Elsa prepares her Stances by performing light attacks. Light 1 prepares Guard Stance, Light 2 prepares Wraith Stance, and Light 3 prepares Demon Stance.
    • Dodging back after preparing a stance makes Elsa enter a Stance. Stances are not affected by Ability Accuracy Reduction.
    • When entering a new Stance, gain a Cruelty Passive increasing Critical Damage by 247.19. Max 7 stacks.
    WHEN ENTERING A STANCE
    • When reaching 7 Cruelty Passives, gain a Precision Passive increasing Critical Rating by 3714.29 for 15 seconds.
    GUARD STANCE
    • Well Timed Blocks activate the Parry Mastery, stunning opponents even if their attack is projectile based. Elsa gains +35% chance to Perfect Block.
    • Entering this stance has a 100% chance to Purify a Debuff.
    WRAITH STANCE
    • All attacks reduce Defensive Ability Accuracy by 40%.
    DEMON STANCE
    • All Bleeds gain +75% Ability Accuracy and can be inflicted on Blocked hits.
    SPECIAL 1: Ambush from the Mists
    • A surprise smoke bomb throw allows an opening for a swift somersault and sword strike combination.
    • Disorients the opponent reducing Defensive Ability Accuracy by 40% and Block Proficiency by 50% for 8 seconds.
    • Enters a prepared Stance.

    SPECIAL 2: Split the River
    • A deadly throwing star creates space for a high-flying acrobatic cutting maneuver.
    • Inflicts a Bleed that deals 413.7 Direct Damage over 7 seconds for each active Cruelty Passive.
    • Removes all Cruelty Passives.

    SPECIAL 3: Marksman’s Revenge
    • Utilizing her sword and bow, Elsa splits an arrow on her blade for a special two-for-one assault.
    • Gain a Fury Passive increasing Attack Rating by 236.4 for 35 seconds. Each active Cruelty Passive increases the Attack Rating by an additional 236.4.
    • Removes all Cruelty Passives.

    SIGNATURE ABILITY: Unrelenting Agility - When Attacked
    • While at 7 Cruelty Passives, Elsa gains Evasion on the next incoming hit for 1.50 seconds. Removes all Cruelty Passives when Elsa Evades an attack. Successful Evades do not grant Stance Abilities.
    • When Elsa Evades an attack, gain a Fury Passive increasing Attack Rating by 236.17 for 7 seconds.
    🙃😁
    This looks like ronin's abilities and nobody claims that he is top three skill so how would giving Elsa his kit make her top three skill?
    Think he copy pasted parts of ronins abilities and just changed everything to include elsas name lmao.
    I know. I treated it mundanely to remove the funniness.
  • DawsManDawsMan Member Posts: 2,169 ★★★★★
    Hammerbro_64 said:

    Yes that’s the joke Daws

    Yeah still doesn't explain why it would make her top three tho. I don't see how that fits into the joke as no one has claimed (to the best of my knowledge) that ronin is top three. Cuz he isn't. He's not that guy.
  • ShadowstrikeShadowstrike Member Posts: 3,110 ★★★★★
    BitterSteel said:

    I figure I’ll copy and paste my suggestion here, as it’s specifically about an Elsa buff


    I’d love her non damaging debuff shrug off to be faster, it’s a little annoying against void to get up to 5 ticks of damage, especially when he can tick for up to 600, meaning 3000 damage from one debuff. Even more if his attack is boosted further from nodes.

    Also, as a nice to have, let her select rounds at the start of the fight so you can choose to apply incinerate or coldsnap

    But it's supposed to automatically select the appropriate ammunition depending on what the opponent is immune to so you are getting the appropriate rounds, it's just certain Champs are double immune, which screws you over like Mephisto or Torch.
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,948 ★★★★★
    DawsMan said:

    H3t3r said:

    DawsMan said:

    Hammerbro_64 said:

    I have a great Elsa buff idea with just a few tweaks it could make her an undisputed top 3 skill (even to those Ronin weirdos)

    Character Class: SKILL
    Basic Abilities: Bleed, Cruelty, Precision, Disorient



    PASSIVE
    • When Elsa would Miss an Attack or be Evaded she gains a Cruelty Passive increasing Critical Damage by 247.19. Max 7 stacks.

    SWORD ATTACKS
    • Attacks using the Sword has a 15% chance to inflict Bleed dealing 413.7 Direct Damage over 7 seconds. Critical Strikes using the Sword have a 100% to inflict Bleed.
    • Intercepting attacks has +666.67 Critical Rating.
    • Against Bleed Immune Champions gain a Cruelty Passive when Elsa would inflict a Bleed.

    STANCE PREPARATION
    • Elsa prepares her Stances by performing light attacks. Light 1 prepares Guard Stance, Light 2 prepares Wraith Stance, and Light 3 prepares Demon Stance.
    • Dodging back after preparing a stance makes Elsa enter a Stance. Stances are not affected by Ability Accuracy Reduction.
    • When entering a new Stance, gain a Cruelty Passive increasing Critical Damage by 247.19. Max 7 stacks.
    WHEN ENTERING A STANCE
    • When reaching 7 Cruelty Passives, gain a Precision Passive increasing Critical Rating by 3714.29 for 15 seconds.
    GUARD STANCE
    • Well Timed Blocks activate the Parry Mastery, stunning opponents even if their attack is projectile based. Elsa gains +35% chance to Perfect Block.
    • Entering this stance has a 100% chance to Purify a Debuff.
    WRAITH STANCE
    • All attacks reduce Defensive Ability Accuracy by 40%.
    DEMON STANCE
    • All Bleeds gain +75% Ability Accuracy and can be inflicted on Blocked hits.
    SPECIAL 1: Ambush from the Mists
    • A surprise smoke bomb throw allows an opening for a swift somersault and sword strike combination.
    • Disorients the opponent reducing Defensive Ability Accuracy by 40% and Block Proficiency by 50% for 8 seconds.
    • Enters a prepared Stance.

    SPECIAL 2: Split the River
    • A deadly throwing star creates space for a high-flying acrobatic cutting maneuver.
    • Inflicts a Bleed that deals 413.7 Direct Damage over 7 seconds for each active Cruelty Passive.
    • Removes all Cruelty Passives.

    SPECIAL 3: Marksman’s Revenge
    • Utilizing her sword and bow, Elsa splits an arrow on her blade for a special two-for-one assault.
    • Gain a Fury Passive increasing Attack Rating by 236.4 for 35 seconds. Each active Cruelty Passive increases the Attack Rating by an additional 236.4.
    • Removes all Cruelty Passives.

    SIGNATURE ABILITY: Unrelenting Agility - When Attacked
    • While at 7 Cruelty Passives, Elsa gains Evasion on the next incoming hit for 1.50 seconds. Removes all Cruelty Passives when Elsa Evades an attack. Successful Evades do not grant Stance Abilities.
    • When Elsa Evades an attack, gain a Fury Passive increasing Attack Rating by 236.17 for 7 seconds.
    🙃😁
    This looks like ronin's abilities and nobody claims that he is top three skill so how would giving Elsa his kit make her top three skill?
    Think he copy pasted parts of ronins abilities and just changed everything to include elsas name lmao.
    I know. I treated it mundanely to remove the funniness.
    You must be fun at parties
  • DawsManDawsMan Member Posts: 2,169 ★★★★★
    SpideyFunko said:

    DawsMan said:

    H3t3r said:

    DawsMan said:

    Hammerbro_64 said:

    I have a great Elsa buff idea with just a few tweaks it could make her an undisputed top 3 skill (even to those Ronin weirdos)

    Character Class: SKILL
    Basic Abilities: Bleed, Cruelty, Precision, Disorient



    PASSIVE
    • When Elsa would Miss an Attack or be Evaded she gains a Cruelty Passive increasing Critical Damage by 247.19. Max 7 stacks.

    SWORD ATTACKS
    • Attacks using the Sword has a 15% chance to inflict Bleed dealing 413.7 Direct Damage over 7 seconds. Critical Strikes using the Sword have a 100% to inflict Bleed.
    • Intercepting attacks has +666.67 Critical Rating.
    • Against Bleed Immune Champions gain a Cruelty Passive when Elsa would inflict a Bleed.

    STANCE PREPARATION
    • Elsa prepares her Stances by performing light attacks. Light 1 prepares Guard Stance, Light 2 prepares Wraith Stance, and Light 3 prepares Demon Stance.
    • Dodging back after preparing a stance makes Elsa enter a Stance. Stances are not affected by Ability Accuracy Reduction.
    • When entering a new Stance, gain a Cruelty Passive increasing Critical Damage by 247.19. Max 7 stacks.
    WHEN ENTERING A STANCE
    • When reaching 7 Cruelty Passives, gain a Precision Passive increasing Critical Rating by 3714.29 for 15 seconds.
    GUARD STANCE
    • Well Timed Blocks activate the Parry Mastery, stunning opponents even if their attack is projectile based. Elsa gains +35% chance to Perfect Block.
    • Entering this stance has a 100% chance to Purify a Debuff.
    WRAITH STANCE
    • All attacks reduce Defensive Ability Accuracy by 40%.
    DEMON STANCE
    • All Bleeds gain +75% Ability Accuracy and can be inflicted on Blocked hits.
    SPECIAL 1: Ambush from the Mists
    • A surprise smoke bomb throw allows an opening for a swift somersault and sword strike combination.
    • Disorients the opponent reducing Defensive Ability Accuracy by 40% and Block Proficiency by 50% for 8 seconds.
    • Enters a prepared Stance.

    SPECIAL 2: Split the River
    • A deadly throwing star creates space for a high-flying acrobatic cutting maneuver.
    • Inflicts a Bleed that deals 413.7 Direct Damage over 7 seconds for each active Cruelty Passive.
    • Removes all Cruelty Passives.

    SPECIAL 3: Marksman’s Revenge
    • Utilizing her sword and bow, Elsa splits an arrow on her blade for a special two-for-one assault.
    • Gain a Fury Passive increasing Attack Rating by 236.4 for 35 seconds. Each active Cruelty Passive increases the Attack Rating by an additional 236.4.
    • Removes all Cruelty Passives.

    SIGNATURE ABILITY: Unrelenting Agility - When Attacked
    • While at 7 Cruelty Passives, Elsa gains Evasion on the next incoming hit for 1.50 seconds. Removes all Cruelty Passives when Elsa Evades an attack. Successful Evades do not grant Stance Abilities.
    • When Elsa Evades an attack, gain a Fury Passive increasing Attack Rating by 236.17 for 7 seconds.
    🙃😁
    This looks like ronin's abilities and nobody claims that he is top three skill so how would giving Elsa his kit make her top three skill?
    Think he copy pasted parts of ronins abilities and just changed everything to include elsas name lmao.
    I know. I treated it mundanely to remove the funniness.
    You must be fun at parties
    Can't make bad jokes if you aren't invited to parties :D . And I treated it mundanely to get to the point, I knew it was a joke, my focus was on elsa becoming top three with ronins kit.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Shadowstrike said:

    BitterSteel said:

    I figure I’ll copy and paste my suggestion here, as it’s specifically about an Elsa buff


    I’d love her non damaging debuff shrug off to be faster, it’s a little annoying against void to get up to 5 ticks of damage, especially when he can tick for up to 600, meaning 3000 damage from one debuff. Even more if his attack is boosted further from nodes.

    Also, as a nice to have, let her select rounds at the start of the fight so you can choose to apply incinerate or coldsnap

    But it's supposed to automatically select the appropriate ammunition depending on what the opponent is immune to so you are getting the appropriate rounds, it's just certain Champs are double immune, which screws you over like Mephisto or Torch.
    It would make her a better evade counter that didn’t need to wait for the opponent to evade first.
  • MasterpuffMasterpuff Member Posts: 6,469 ★★★★★
    Texas_11 said:

    FluffyPigMonster said:


    Can you imagine puff if Ronin becomes a monster and Elsa gets left behind.

    I also was chatting on the merged ronin thread I had some ideas, but Elsa wasn’t to sure what I would be looking for out of her.

    Curious to see what people think she would need if they think she is not a good champ in their eyes.
    Bahahhahahhahahahahhahah *evil laugh continues*
  • HoitadoHoitado Member Posts: 3,707 ★★★★★
    If Elsa is a Top 5 Skill like MANY say then Kabam shouldn’t buff her
  • H3t3rH3t3r Member, Guardian Posts: 2,882 Guardian
    Masterpuff said:

    Texas_11 said:

    FluffyPigMonster said:


    Can you imagine puff if Ronin becomes a monster and Elsa gets left behind.

    I also was chatting on the merged ronin thread I had some ideas, but Elsa wasn’t to sure what I would be looking for out of her.

    Curious to see what people think she would need if they think she is not a good champ in their eyes.
    Bahahhahahhahahahahhahah *evil laugh continues*
    Ronin becomes worse...
  • MasterpuffMasterpuff Member Posts: 6,469 ★★★★★
    H3t3r said:

    Masterpuff said:

    Texas_11 said:

    FluffyPigMonster said:


    Can you imagine puff if Ronin becomes a monster and Elsa gets left behind.

    I also was chatting on the merged ronin thread I had some ideas, but Elsa wasn’t to sure what I would be looking for out of her.

    Curious to see what people think she would need if they think she is not a good champ in their eyes.
    Bahahhahahhahahahahhahah *evil laugh continues*
    Ronin becomes worse...
    Good news for Elsa fans is that they wont have to deal with me because i would quit the game
  • H3t3rH3t3r Member, Guardian Posts: 2,882 Guardian
    Masterpuff said:

    H3t3r said:

    Masterpuff said:

    Texas_11 said:

    FluffyPigMonster said:


    Can you imagine puff if Ronin becomes a monster and Elsa gets left behind.

    I also was chatting on the merged ronin thread I had some ideas, but Elsa wasn’t to sure what I would be looking for out of her.

    Curious to see what people think she would need if they think she is not a good champ in their eyes.
    Bahahhahahhahahahahhahah *evil laugh continues*
    Ronin becomes worse...
    Good news for Elsa fans is that they wont have to deal with me because i would quit the game
    I'm an elsa fan. I wouldn't consider it good news.
  • Hammerbro_64Hammerbro_64 Member Posts: 7,463 ★★★★★
    DawsMan said:

    Hammerbro_64 said:

    Yes that’s the joke Daws

    Yeah still doesn't explain why it would make her top three tho. I don't see how that fits into the joke as no one has claimed (to the best of my knowledge) that ronin is top three. Cuz he isn't. He's not that guy.
    Yes that’s the joke Daws

    The Elsa v Ronin debate has been a huge one, so I did a playful jab of saying that Ronin is so much better he should replace her entirely, which I don’t actually agree with hence it being a joke.

    I say top 3 to jab at both fan clubs as a way of saying “why are you arguing over which above average skill champ is better when they aren’t even at the top of their class” (think Hyperion vs CGR: both of them are at the top of their class so it’s makes more sense for there to be such debate than two high demigod tiers)


    Have a made myself mundanely clear?
  • DawsManDawsMan Member Posts: 2,169 ★★★★★
    Hammerbro_64 said:

    DawsMan said:

    Hammerbro_64 said:

    Yes that’s the joke Daws

    Yeah still doesn't explain why it would make her top three tho. I don't see how that fits into the joke as no one has claimed (to the best of my knowledge) that ronin is top three. Cuz he isn't. He's not that guy.
    Yes that’s the joke Daws

    The Elsa v Ronin debate has been a huge one, so I did a playful jab of saying that Ronin is so much better he should replace her entirely, which I don’t actually agree with hence it being a joke.

    I say top 3 to jab at both fan clubs as a way of saying “why are you arguing over which above average skill champ is better when they aren’t even at the top of their class” (think Hyperion vs CGR: both of them are at the top of their class so it’s makes more sense for there to be such debate than two high demigod tiers)


    Have a made myself mundanely clear?
    No, you've made yourself regularly clear. And ok.
  • JadedJaded Member Posts: 5,477 ★★★★★
    Texas_11 said:

    DeaconVelvet said:

    Elsa is already amaze

    I think so, but if ronin gets a buff that would make her less desirable.

    As skill class gets more powerful, Elsa slowly starts falling behind , mainly because the damage output gap will get wider.
    Isn’t this just the logical outcome of buffing champions 3 a month? Eventually any that don’t get a buff will be left behind, when it dwindles down to the last to be buffed they’ll have to start again.
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