However, why does the event that showed an equal appreciation for EVERYONE have to be changed to a strange summer event and monetized?
Because there's no better alternative.
This one event has two halves: a completely free half and a half that benefits people willing to pay. Some people are claiming that the half that benefits people willing to pay in some way taints the free half, so there's no longer really any free thing at all. But the alternative is to separate them, which means there would be a free summoner appreciation event, and then completely disconnected from it, with a different name and a different structure and even launched at a different time so there's absolutely no way to connect the two there would be content event that was *only* available to paying customers, that free to play players had zero access to at all.
Putting them together means we have one event that everyone can participate in, free to play players to some extent, and paying players to a higher extent. Separating them means there's a free event everyone has access to, and a paid event only paying customers would have access to. In my opinion that's worse, and more people would complain about that.
And if anyone thinks there's a third alternative where we have a free event, and then separately an event that both free and paying customers can participate in, that is *even worse*. Because you can't just arbitrarily double the amount of rewards that the free to play players get overall. If we split summoner appreciation into a completely free event and then a separate event accessible to everyone, then the rewards you'd ordinarily see in the one event for free players would have to be split into two events, which would make them half as good. Now people would complain about the anemic rewards in the first event *and* the anemic rewards in the second event, and on top of that compare the low free to play rewards in the second event to the vastly superior rewards in the paid portion of the second event. The optics on that would be the worst of all.
Can someone clarify something. It looks like the max number of Champion Tokens you can get is 6 if you buy the Resort Pass. But in the first row of the Canteen store, there's a 7 purchase limit for the 4 star hero crystal shards. I am not going to buy 7 of them, but why is that even possible if you can only get 6 tokens? Is there a secret extra token somewhere?
Can someone clarify something. It looks like the max number of Champion Tokens you can get is 6 if you buy the Resort Pass. But in the first row of the Canteen store, there's a 7 purchase limit for the 4 star hero crystal shards. I am not going to buy 7 of them, but why is that even possible if you can only get 6 tokens? Is there a secret extra token somewhere?
You can get 7 tokens. 3 from the Summoner Camp Solo and 4 from the Summoner Resort Solo...
Make sure you don't miss our very important update at the top of the original post here
Update: July 7, 2021
For our Pass holders who may have actually intended to be a Pass Plus holder, or for those of you who simply changed your mind, we have good news!
Introducing, the Summ(on)er Event Booster! Essentially, the Booster upgrades your Pass to a Pass Plus, so you can now enjoy the maximum perks of our Resort! This is a one-time purchase for Resort Pass holders.
Cost equivalent: Peter Parker's Wallet
IMPORTANT NOTE: Not to be confused with the upcoming weekly Booster (of the same name) that will be available to everyone, every week. This Booster, available weekly to Camp goers will offer limited Resort perks: - 7x Milestone completion
This weekly Booster will be offered starting Wednesday, July 14, 2021 @ 10AM (PT).
Make sure you don't miss our very important update at the top of the original post here
Update: July 7, 2021
For our Pass holders who may have actually intended to be a Pass Plus holder, or for those of you who simply changed your mind, we have good news!
Introducing, the Summ(on)er Event Booster! Essentially, the Booster upgrades your Pass to a Pass Plus, so you can now enjoy the maximum perks of our Resort! This is a one-time purchase for Resort Pass holders.
Cost equivalent: Peter Parker's Wallet
IMPORTANT NOTE: Not to be confused with the upcoming weekly Booster (of the same name) that will be available to everyone, every week. This Booster, available weekly to Camp goers will offer limited Resort perks: - 7x Milestone completion
This weekly Booster will be offered starting Wednesday, July 14, 2021 @ 10AM (PT).
Cost equivalent: Peter Parker's Wallet
Why not having only one pass from the start and avoid all this confusion?
What does it mean when the Summoner Resort is described as “You can start collecting milestone rewards after you reach the next milestone after the one you are trying to collect” ? I did my ten fights, collected a milestone reward, but have no new objective to start collecting fights against…
I want to buy the Resort Pass Plus but I keep reading that people have bought it but are not getting any rewards. And now I read that there is a weekly £5 booster pack coming. It seems never ending.
Also, why does the Resort Pass Plus end of week earlier than the cheaper pass?
If I buy the pass what the difference between that and the pass plus?
If I buy the pass does that take away the regular milestones?
What’s the benefit of buying each pass?
This is my best understanding so far. There are two things being sold. The first thing is a resort pass. This unlocks the paid milestone event. There's a free milestone path anyone can do, and a paid one you have to unlock with the pass. You earn points towards these milestones by completing objectives, one per day,
The second thing is a milestone booster. Buying this thing in effect hands you seven milestone completions. In other words, instead of unlocking (meaning, earning that reward) for milestone one, you'd be at milestone eight. Normally the objectives come out one per day, so normally everyone can only earn one point per day. The booster gives you seven more points instantly.
The Summoner Resort Pass package just contains the resort pass. You unlock the bonus paid milestone event, and can earn points in that event by completing the daily objectives, and earning the rewards in that event.
The Summoner Resort Pass Plus package contains the resort pass and a seven day milestone booster. You unlock the bonus paid milestone event just like with the resort pass package, but you also immediately get seven points added to your milestone score in both events.
There are 98 milestones in the Camp (free) and Resort (paid) events. I believe there are 98 days between July 7 and October 13, so you need to complete every daily objective to earn all of the milestones of either event. If you just get the resort pass, and you complete the daily objectives every day, you will have enough points to max out both the Camp and Resort events. You don't need anything more if you play every day.
If you get the seven day booster, you'll get seven more milestone points. This means two things. First, if you miss a day, the seven extra milestone points means you can still max out all the milestones in both events. You could miss up to seven days and still max them out.
If you don't miss seven days, then at some point you will complete all of the milestones in the Camp and Resort events before the end of the event. At that point, you will get a bonus event that just contains shards: 100 6* shards per milestone for Cavalier and above, 100 5* shards for Uncollected, and 50 4* shards for Conqueror and below. In other words, if you continue to complete daily objectives after completing all of the milestones in the Camp and Resort events, these extra objective completions will convert into shards.
So both packages unlock the Resort event. The Plus package also gives you seven milestone points for free. This means you have an easier time fully completing all of the milestones in the Camp and Resort events, and if you end up with extra milestone points you'll get a small amount of champion shards per milestone point above 98.
@Kabam Miike@Kabam Zibiit Hey u guys know that prof hoff made a video and said that u doing the resort bundles make him sick to his stomach
They made me slightly dizzy for a few minutes until I figured them all out, but I'm feeling much better now.
have you also figured out if i miss a day of objective. i cant make the last milestone? aka no grace period?
There are 98 milestones in the Camp and Resort events, and 98 days during the time period the event is on. That sounds like there are no grace days if you are attempting to max out all the event milestones.
My guess is that is why the extra booster purchases exist. If during the event you miss a day or two, you'll have an opportunity to buy a pack of points, basically, to make up the difference if you choose to do so.
@Kabam Miike@Kabam Zibiit Hey u guys know that prof hoff made a video and said that u doing the resort bundles make him sick to his stomach
They made me slightly dizzy for a few minutes until I figured them all out, but I'm feeling much better now.
have you also figured out if i miss a day of objective. i cant make the last milestone? aka no grace period?
There are 98 milestones in the Camp and Resort events, and 98 days during the time period the event is on. That sounds like there are no grace days if you are attempting to max out all the event milestones.
My guess is that is why the extra booster purchases exist. If during the event you miss a day or two, you'll have an opportunity to buy a pack of points, basically, to make up the difference if you choose to do so.
Now what if someone buys the booster each week to get 7 days of milestones, and already had the pass plus. How many extra shards would they be getting by the end?
Whoever spends 40 hours a week coming up with this stuff should be fired. Nothing creative here and confusion all around. If you can't create something that needs to be reviewed by so many to make sense of, it's not a good idea. My only guess is this is an intern getting "experience". This game is not capable of the challenges we see in PC/console platforms work within your means.
@Kabam Miike@Kabam Zibiit Hey u guys know that prof hoff made a video and said that u doing the resort bundles make him sick to his stomach
They made me slightly dizzy for a few minutes until I figured them all out, but I'm feeling much better now.
have you also figured out if i miss a day of objective. i cant make the last milestone? aka no grace period?
There are 98 milestones in the Camp and Resort events, and 98 days during the time period the event is on. That sounds like there are no grace days if you are attempting to max out all the event milestones.
My guess is that is why the extra booster purchases exist. If during the event you miss a day or two, you'll have an opportunity to buy a pack of points, basically, to make up the difference if you choose to do so.
Now what if someone buys the booster each week to get 7 days of milestones, and already had the pass plus. How many extra shards would they be getting by the end?
Not that I'm going to do that, but I'm curious.
The announcement doesn't list a maximum milestone tier for the bonus shards. If there is no limit, then presumably the maximum number you could get is 98. This would cost $65 USD for 13 weekly booster packs, plus the extra five bucks (US) you'd have paid to get the plus pack in the first place, which would then grant 9800 6* shards for Cav players, 9800 5* shards for Uncollected players, and 4900 4* shards for everyone below.
If there is an explicit cap in the bonus shards event, I haven't seen it announced anywhere yet.
$70 for a 6* crystal is not high, or low. I don't think I will be doing that, but for whales buying every crystal in sight anyway it is not bad value. I wouldn't recommend it for normal humans playing the game though.
@Kabam Miike@Kabam Zibiit Hey u guys know that prof hoff made a video and said that u doing the resort bundles make him sick to his stomach
They made me slightly dizzy for a few minutes until I figured them all out, but I'm feeling much better now.
have you also figured out if i miss a day of objective. i cant make the last milestone? aka no grace period?
There are 98 milestones in the Camp and Resort events, and 98 days during the time period the event is on. That sounds like there are no grace days if you are attempting to max out all the event milestones.
My guess is that is why the extra booster purchases exist. If during the event you miss a day or two, you'll have an opportunity to buy a pack of points, basically, to make up the difference if you choose to do so.
Now what if someone buys the booster each week to get 7 days of milestones, and already had the pass plus. How many extra shards would they be getting by the end?
Not that I'm going to do that, but I'm curious.
The announcement doesn't list a maximum milestone tier for the bonus shards. If there is no limit, then presumably the maximum number you could get is 98. This would cost $65 USD for 13 weekly booster packs, plus the extra five bucks (US) you'd have paid to get the plus pack in the first place, which would then grant 9800 6* shards for Cav players, 9800 5* shards for Uncollected players, and 4900 4* shards for everyone below.
If there is an explicit cap in the bonus shards event, I haven't seen it announced anywhere yet.
$70 for a 6* crystal is not high, or low. I don't think I will be doing that, but for whales buying every crystal in sight anyway it is not bad value. I wouldn't recommend it for normal humans playing the game though.
Yeah I did some napkin math with my very tired brain, and assuming that you can only buy 1 booster per week (if Kabam hates money or something) then at 14 weeks of milestones, 7 of those would be boosted, and then it's 4900 6* shards for $35. Not great. Not terrible either.
@Kabam Miike@Kabam Zibiit Hey u guys know that prof hoff made a video and said that u doing the resort bundles make him sick to his stomach
They made me slightly dizzy for a few minutes until I figured them all out, but I'm feeling much better now.
have you also figured out if i miss a day of objective. i cant make the last milestone? aka no grace period?
There are 98 milestones in the Camp and Resort events, and 98 days during the time period the event is on. That sounds like there are no grace days if you are attempting to max out all the event milestones.
My guess is that is why the extra booster purchases exist. If during the event you miss a day or two, you'll have an opportunity to buy a pack of points, basically, to make up the difference if you choose to do so.
Now what if someone buys the booster each week to get 7 days of milestones, and already had the pass plus. How many extra shards would they be getting by the end?
Not that I'm going to do that, but I'm curious.
The announcement doesn't list a maximum milestone tier for the bonus shards. If there is no limit, then presumably the maximum number you could get is 98. This would cost $65 USD for 13 weekly booster packs, plus the extra five bucks (US) you'd have paid to get the plus pack in the first place, which would then grant 9800 6* shards for Cav players, 9800 5* shards for Uncollected players, and 4900 4* shards for everyone below.
If there is an explicit cap in the bonus shards event, I haven't seen it announced anywhere yet.
$70 for a 6* crystal is not high, or low. I don't think I will be doing that, but for whales buying every crystal in sight anyway it is not bad value. I wouldn't recommend it for normal humans playing the game though.
Yeah I did some napkin math with my very tired brain, and assuming that you can only buy 1 booster per week (if Kabam hates money or something) then at 14 weeks of milestones, 7 of those would be boosted, and then it's 4900 6* shards for $35. Not great. Not terrible either.
So let me get this straight, all the resort extra is just to get the milestones a week early?
I'm confused. The more I read and to try and understand it the more my head spins.
@Kabam Miike@Kabam Zibiit Hey u guys know that prof hoff made a video and said that u doing the resort bundles make him sick to his stomach
They made me slightly dizzy for a few minutes until I figured them all out, but I'm feeling much better now.
have you also figured out if i miss a day of objective. i cant make the last milestone? aka no grace period?
There are 98 milestones in the Camp and Resort events, and 98 days during the time period the event is on. That sounds like there are no grace days if you are attempting to max out all the event milestones.
My guess is that is why the extra booster purchases exist. If during the event you miss a day or two, you'll have an opportunity to buy a pack of points, basically, to make up the difference if you choose to do so.
Now what if someone buys the booster each week to get 7 days of milestones, and already had the pass plus. How many extra shards would they be getting by the end?
Not that I'm going to do that, but I'm curious.
The announcement doesn't list a maximum milestone tier for the bonus shards. If there is no limit, then presumably the maximum number you could get is 98. This would cost $65 USD for 13 weekly booster packs, plus the extra five bucks (US) you'd have paid to get the plus pack in the first place, which would then grant 9800 6* shards for Cav players, 9800 5* shards for Uncollected players, and 4900 4* shards for everyone below.
If there is an explicit cap in the bonus shards event, I haven't seen it announced anywhere yet.
$70 for a 6* crystal is not high, or low. I don't think I will be doing that, but for whales buying every crystal in sight anyway it is not bad value. I wouldn't recommend it for normal humans playing the game though.
Yeah I did some napkin math with my very tired brain, and assuming that you can only buy 1 booster per week (if Kabam hates money or something) then at 14 weeks of milestones, 7 of those would be boosted, and then it's 4900 6* shards for $35. Not great. Not terrible either.
So let me get this straight, all the resort extra is just to get the milestones a week early?
I'm confused. The more I read and to try and understand it the more my head spins.
Okay I'll try and break it down. But I am tired so excuse any mistakes.
The Resort Pass gives access to the paid milestones only. These milestones reward pretty much the same as the base milestones essentially doubling the totals.
The Resort Pass Plus gives the same, plus advances you one week in the milestones with a booster. So you end the milestones a week early. When you end early, each day you can earn extra shards.
Starting next week you'll be able to buy additional boosters for the cost of a Parkers Wallet to progress another week in advance, thus reaching the final milestone even earlier and earning more shards, again for each day that the even runs while having all milestones completed.
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This one event has two halves: a completely free half and a half that benefits people willing to pay. Some people are claiming that the half that benefits people willing to pay in some way taints the free half, so there's no longer really any free thing at all. But the alternative is to separate them, which means there would be a free summoner appreciation event, and then completely disconnected from it, with a different name and a different structure and even launched at a different time so there's absolutely no way to connect the two there would be content event that was *only* available to paying customers, that free to play players had zero access to at all.
Putting them together means we have one event that everyone can participate in, free to play players to some extent, and paying players to a higher extent. Separating them means there's a free event everyone has access to, and a paid event only paying customers would have access to. In my opinion that's worse, and more people would complain about that.
And if anyone thinks there's a third alternative where we have a free event, and then separately an event that both free and paying customers can participate in, that is *even worse*. Because you can't just arbitrarily double the amount of rewards that the free to play players get overall. If we split summoner appreciation into a completely free event and then a separate event accessible to everyone, then the rewards you'd ordinarily see in the one event for free players would have to be split into two events, which would make them half as good. Now people would complain about the anemic rewards in the first event *and* the anemic rewards in the second event, and on top of that compare the low free to play rewards in the second event to the vastly superior rewards in the paid portion of the second event. The optics on that would be the worst of all.
Update: July 7, 2021
For our Pass holders who may have actually intended to be a Pass Plus holder, or for those of you who simply changed your mind, we have good news!Introducing, the Summ(on)er Event Booster! Essentially, the Booster upgrades your Pass to a Pass Plus, so you can now enjoy the maximum perks of our Resort! This is a one-time purchase for Resort Pass holders.
Cost equivalent: Peter Parker's Wallet
IMPORTANT NOTE:
Not to be confused with the upcoming weekly Booster (of the same name) that will be available to everyone, every week. This Booster, available weekly to Camp goers will offer limited Resort perks:
- 7x Milestone completion
This weekly Booster will be offered starting Wednesday, July 14, 2021 @ 10AM (PT).
Cost equivalent: Peter Parker's Wallet
**BONUS: Summer Shards (Complete the final milestone in the Summ(on)er Resort Pass. Purchase required.)
Rewards (by Summoner Title)
Cavaliers and above:
100 x 6-Star Hero Crystal Shards (per day)
Uncollected only:
100 x 5-Star Hero Crystal Shards (per day)
Conqueror and below:
50 x 4-Star Hero Crystal Shards (per day)
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Question do I need to get the Resort Pass Plus to get the bonus Solo objective?
It's not clear atall and hasn't been from the start
Why is there 2 different purchase extras that are the same thing but ones £5 more.
And now they're adding a weekly boost for £5 a pop
This is genuinely a massive disaster
If I buy the pass what the difference between that and the pass plus?
If I buy the pass does that take away the regular milestones?
What’s the benefit of buying each pass?
I want to buy the Resort Pass Plus but I keep reading that people have bought it but are not getting any rewards. And now I read that there is a weekly £5 booster pack coming. It seems never ending.
Also, why does the Resort Pass Plus end of week earlier than the cheaper pass?
Get rid of this disaster of an event and just give us a calendar.
Honestly what were you thinking.
The second thing is a milestone booster. Buying this thing in effect hands you seven milestone completions. In other words, instead of unlocking (meaning, earning that reward) for milestone one, you'd be at milestone eight. Normally the objectives come out one per day, so normally everyone can only earn one point per day. The booster gives you seven more points instantly.
The Summoner Resort Pass package just contains the resort pass. You unlock the bonus paid milestone event, and can earn points in that event by completing the daily objectives, and earning the rewards in that event.
The Summoner Resort Pass Plus package contains the resort pass and a seven day milestone booster. You unlock the bonus paid milestone event just like with the resort pass package, but you also immediately get seven points added to your milestone score in both events.
There are 98 milestones in the Camp (free) and Resort (paid) events. I believe there are 98 days between July 7 and October 13, so you need to complete every daily objective to earn all of the milestones of either event. If you just get the resort pass, and you complete the daily objectives every day, you will have enough points to max out both the Camp and Resort events. You don't need anything more if you play every day.
If you get the seven day booster, you'll get seven more milestone points. This means two things. First, if you miss a day, the seven extra milestone points means you can still max out all the milestones in both events. You could miss up to seven days and still max them out.
If you don't miss seven days, then at some point you will complete all of the milestones in the Camp and Resort events before the end of the event. At that point, you will get a bonus event that just contains shards: 100 6* shards per milestone for Cavalier and above, 100 5* shards for Uncollected, and 50 4* shards for Conqueror and below. In other words, if you continue to complete daily objectives after completing all of the milestones in the Camp and Resort events, these extra objective completions will convert into shards.
So both packages unlock the Resort event. The Plus package also gives you seven milestone points for free. This means you have an easier time fully completing all of the milestones in the Camp and Resort events, and if you end up with extra milestone points you'll get a small amount of champion shards per milestone point above 98.
My guess is that is why the extra booster purchases exist. If during the event you miss a day or two, you'll have an opportunity to buy a pack of points, basically, to make up the difference if you choose to do so.
Not that I'm going to do that, but I'm curious.
If there is an explicit cap in the bonus shards event, I haven't seen it announced anywhere yet.
$70 for a 6* crystal is not high, or low. I don't think I will be doing that, but for whales buying every crystal in sight anyway it is not bad value. I wouldn't recommend it for normal humans playing the game though.
I'm confused. The more I read and to try and understand it the more my head spins.
The Resort Pass gives access to the paid milestones only. These milestones reward pretty much the same as the base milestones essentially doubling the totals.
The Resort Pass Plus gives the same, plus advances you one week in the milestones with a booster. So you end the milestones a week early. When you end early, each day you can earn extra shards.
Starting next week you'll be able to buy additional boosters for the cost of a Parkers Wallet to progress another week in advance, thus reaching the final milestone even earlier and earning more shards, again for each day that the even runs while having all milestones completed.