The "best evade counter in game" is also bugged and will have to sacrifice all damage to counter evade again once he's fixed.
Can't wait for the fallout from that one...
Judging by how many people who took him to r3 don't even realize this is unintentional, it's going to be a big one .
There can't be that many, it's one of the first lines in his abilities
How many people read abilities for themselves compared to how many people who just watch a video on the champ to see how good they are?
I know I've been guilty of the last one more than I'd care to admit.
I'm sure the majority just watch a video but I find it hard to believe most people investing t5cc in a champion don't read the abilities at least once.
The "best evade counter in game" is also bugged and will have to sacrifice all damage to counter evade again once he's fixed.
Can't wait for the fallout from that one...
Judging by how many people who took him to r3 don't even realize this is unintentional, it's going to be a big one .
There can't be that many, it's one of the first lines in his abilities
How many people read abilities for themselves compared to how many people who just watch a video on the champ to see how good they are?
I know I've been guilty of the last one more than I'd care to admit.
I'm sure the majority just watch a video but I find it hard to believe most people investing t5cc in a champion don't read the abilities at least once.
It's not even hidden or buried between text, it's his passive at the top of his ability sheet
I dunno, I've invested T5B and T2A (before R3 6*s were avaliable) just because I saw a video and didn't look at a characters abilities. I think a lot of people watch a video think "man this character looks amazing!" And go ahead without much thought after that.
I'd love to think everyone reads abilities first... but we've all seen many posts where people have misunderstood a champ and how they function.
Both are suicide friendly, and also who has the best assisted intercept in the game? Also, Mole-Man bleed is goated for Do you Bleed and when paired with the despair mastery can be a very good way to prevent healing effects.
Ghost has the best assisted intercept because ghost do be ghost
Moleman isn’t the second best assisted intercept champ, Elsa and Mr Negative both have better intercept openings than Moleman since you don’t need to take a blocked hit to do so. Sacrificing health for an intercept isn’t always a good idea.
The "best evade counter in game" is also bugged and will have to sacrifice all damage to counter evade again once he's fixed.
Can't wait for the fallout from that one...
Judging by how many people who took him to r3 don't even realize this is unintentional, it's going to be a big one .
There can't be that many, it's one of the first lines in his abilities
How many people read abilities for themselves compared to how many people who just watch a video on the champ to see how good they are?
I know I've been guilty of the last one more than I'd care to admit.
I'm sure the majority just watch a video but I find it hard to believe most people investing t5cc in a champion don't read the abilities at least once.
It's not even hidden or buried between text, it's his passive at the top of his ability sheet
Have you seen some of the threads here. Players don't read
Both are suicide friendly, and also who has the best assisted intercept in the game? Also, Mole-Man bleed is goated for Do you Bleed and when paired with the despair mastery can be a very good way to prevent healing effects.
Ghost has the best assisted intercept because ghost do be ghost
Moleman isn’t the second best assisted intercept champ, Elsa and Mr Negative both have better intercept openings than Moleman since you don’t need to take a blocked hit to do so. Sacrificing health for an intercept isn’t always a good idea.
And KM can do the same and avoid the block damage completely with indestructible charges. MM isnt even 4th best at it
Ok for the people saying Molegod assisted intercept is bad because of how low block proficiency there is one thing you are forgetting. Molegod gains +370 physical resistance per monster mass he has. This is a massive increase and when you stack up to around 10 monster mass this physical resistance is so huge that it makes block damage very minimal. Also the fact that he can do his assistant intercept at any time in the entire fight is why I say he has the best one. Elsa can only do here every 10 or so seconds, Killmonger can only do 2 per sp1, Mister negative has to sacrifice some damage to do tons of assisted intercepts, the only champions that have easy access to assisted intercepts at any time in the entire fight are Molegod and Ghost
Ok for the people saying Molegod assisted intercept is bad because of how low block proficiency there is one thing you are forgetting. Molegod gains +370 physical resistance per monster mass he has. This is a massive increase and when you stack up to around 10 monster mass this physical resistance is so huge that it makes block damage very minimal
You know what’s better than minimal block damage? No block damage.
not bashing on moleman. Moley is amazing, has some great utility but comparing ALWAYS has bad results. Thats why i absolutely despise calling some better than others. You like using Molegod, go ahead. He is an awesome champ, i love my moleman. But comparing always brings out points that one side wont agree with.
No need to compare champs like this. They aren't supposed to be the same in all scenarios. Use who you want or who you have. Enjoy the game. You don't have to try and convince anyone why you think someone is better.
All the other champs mentioned here are fine in their own right too. Nothing wrong with any of them. Just use whoever works for your account.
Why did I rank Moleman? I pulled him and he was the best option considering how poor my 6* skill roster was at the time. He has a ton of utility and damage and is just fine when played as intended. If it's an evader I don't use heavies. If they aren't an evader, I do. He works awesome just like that and fights still end in relatively the same amount of time.
I don't have a Shang Chi and it could be years before I pull him. Don't have 6* Elsa and not investing in the 5* at this point. Don't have Mr. Negative either and killmonger missed the boat since I just pulled him after all this time so don't feel the need to rank him now.
It would be dumb to wait in hopes of Shang Chi or another champ when a perfectly good (amazing) champ was already in my roster and provides utility that previously was not there.
No regrets on the rankup and won't care if he does change because I ranked him up and use him the way he was written up. He absolutely shreds and does not lose all damage even when you play him as intended. Those bleeds add up quick and fights still end pretty darn quickly when tearing through evaders and autoblockers.
Ok for the people saying Molegod assisted intercept is bad because of how low block proficiency there is one thing you are forgetting. Molegod gains +370 physical resistance per monster mass he has. This is a massive increase and when you stack up to around 10 monster mass this physical resistance is so huge that it makes block damage very minimal. Also the fact that he can do his assistant intercept at any time in the entire fight is why I say he has the best one. Elsa can only do here every 10 or so seconds, Killmonger can only do 2 per sp1, Mister negative has to sacrifice some damage to do tons of assisted intercepts, the only champions that have easy access to assisted intercepts at any time in the entire fight are Molegod and Ghost
Every champ has a downside to their assisted intercepts. Apart from needing to take blocked damage any situation where buffs get nullified or unblockable is involved also messes with molemans intercepts.
He has the advantage when it comes to frequency of intercepts but there's rarely a time where you need that amount of intercepts. I personally find Ghost and Prof X the most useful for intercept scenarios
Ok for the people saying Molegod assisted intercept is bad because of how low block proficiency there is one thing you are forgetting. Molegod gains +370 physical resistance per monster mass he has. This is a massive increase and when you stack up to around 10 monster mass this physical resistance is so huge that it makes block damage very minimal. Also the fact that he can do his assistant intercept at any time in the entire fight is why I say he has the best one. Elsa can only do here every 10 or so seconds, Killmonger can only do 2 per sp1, Mister negative has to sacrifice some damage to do tons of assisted intercepts, the only champions that have easy access to assisted intercepts at any time in the entire fight are Molegod and Ghost
Every champ has a downside to their assisted intercepts. Apart from needing to take blocked damage any situation where buffs get nullified or unblockable is involved also messes with molemans intercepts.
He has the advantage when it comes to frequency of intercepts but there's rarely a time where you need that amount of intercepts. I personally find Ghost and Prof X the most useful for intercept scenarios
I disagree that every champ has downsides to assisted evades. The ones that come to mind for intercepts are Ghost, Elsa, killmonger, Moleman, prof X, Mr negative.
Ghost doesn’t have a downside, she just phases
Elsa has a cooldown of 11 seconds, which is plenty of time to bait out specials and use your own until it comes back.
Mr Negative’s is part of his rotation, so there’s no downside there. All you need to do is have light energy which is easy to get with a well timed block, or remove the dex buff from yourself.
Killmonger has his indestructible charges and counter punch charges to remove block damage. And for stun immune match ups you can well timed block to reduce block damage.
Prof X is a weird one, as it’s every 20 seconds (-1 second per dex you perform), so a longer cooldown than Elsa, but it is also is part of his building up charges so you don’t always want to use the falter as an intercept , as you can’t build as many charges.
Moleman does seem to have downsides, having to take blocked hits can be really detrimental, especially if you want to intercept a lot for foresight nodes. Hes the only one that needs to use a buff for it.
Overall, for ease of use and lack of downsides I honestly think ghost is the best, followed by Mr Negative
Mister negative has to sacrifice some damage to do tons of assisted intercepts, the only champions that have easy access to assisted intercepts at any time in the entire fight are Molegod and Ghost
Oof that’s all kinds of wrong. You don’t need to sacrifice any damage at all to intercept with Mr Negative. Literally just parry heavy, evade intercept, dash back, another evade intercept. If you can’t heavy, then parry is fine, if block damage is too high then heavy counter, if you can’t do that, dex and dash back to remove the dex buff.
There is so much you can do with Negative to get your intercepts, no damage needs to be sacrificed. Could you explain why you think you need to sacrifice damage for him?
Also, Moleman can’t get his intercepts when you get buffs nullified, or punished, or when you’re on low health, or when you can’t take blocked hits, or when getting touched by the opponent is bad, like destructive feedback. Putting moleman and ghost in the same category here is crazy wrong
Ok for the people saying Molegod assisted intercept is bad because of how low block proficiency there is one thing you are forgetting. Molegod gains +370 physical resistance per monster mass he has. This is a massive increase and when you stack up to around 10 monster mass this physical resistance is so huge that it makes block damage very minimal
You know what’s better than minimal block damage? No block damage.
Elsa, Killmonger and Mr Negative are better
Killmonger needs 3 bars of power and you intercepting on your own to get his assisted intercepts to have no block damage
Ok for the people saying Molegod assisted intercept is bad because of how low block proficiency there is one thing you are forgetting. Molegod gains +370 physical resistance per monster mass he has. This is a massive increase and when you stack up to around 10 monster mass this physical resistance is so huge that it makes block damage very minimal
You know what’s better than minimal block damage? No block damage.
Elsa, Killmonger and Mr Negative are better
Killmonger needs 3 bars of power and you intercepting on your own to get his assisted intercepts to have no block damage
Yep, true. But that’s still better than moleman’s assisted intercept who can’t get any without block damage.
Ok for the people saying Molegod assisted intercept is bad because of how low block proficiency there is one thing you are forgetting. Molegod gains +370 physical resistance per monster mass he has. This is a massive increase and when you stack up to around 10 monster mass this physical resistance is so huge that it makes block damage very minimal. Also the fact that he can do his assistant intercept at any time in the entire fight is why I say he has the best one. Elsa can only do here every 10 or so seconds, Killmonger can only do 2 per sp1, Mister negative has to sacrifice some damage to do tons of assisted intercepts, the only champions that have easy access to assisted intercepts at any time in the entire fight are Molegod and Ghost
Every champ has a downside to their assisted intercepts. Apart from needing to take blocked damage any situation where buffs get nullified or unblockable is involved also messes with molemans intercepts.
He has the advantage when it comes to frequency of intercepts but there's rarely a time where you need that amount of intercepts. I personally find Ghost and Prof X the most useful for intercept scenarios
I disagree that every champ has downsides to assisted evades. The ones that come to mind for intercepts are Ghost, Elsa, killmonger, Moleman, prof X, Mr negative.
Ghost doesn’t have a downside, she just phases
Elsa has a cooldown of 11 seconds, which is plenty of time to bait out specials and use your own until it comes back.
Mr Negative’s is part of his rotation, so there’s no downside there. All you need to do is have light energy which is easy to get with a well timed block, or remove the dex buff from yourself.
Killmonger has his indestructible charges and counter punch charges to remove block damage. And for stun immune match ups you can well timed block to reduce block damage.
Prof X is a weird one, as it’s every 20 seconds (-1 second per dex you perform), so a longer cooldown than Elsa, but it is also is part of his building up charges so you don’t always want to use the falter as an intercept , as you can’t build as many charges.
Moleman does seem to have downsides, having to take blocked hits can be really detrimental, especially if you want to intercept a lot for foresight nodes. Hes the only one that needs to use a buff for it.
Overall, for ease of use and lack of downsides I honestly think ghost is the best, followed by Mr Negative
Looks like I've worded it weirdly, when I say they have a downside I mean they're scenarios where the assisted intercepts are inaccessible.
If there's armour breaks/a miss counter ghost can't phase for intercepts
Elsa and negative can't use their assisted intercept if the defender counters evade
Moleman is dependent on taking blocked hits and triggering unstoppable buff which is susceptible to nullify
KM needs to throw specials and take a hit on the block
Prof Xs assisted intercept won't work vs miss counters.
From my personal experience I find ghost to be by far the best for assisted intercept and then prof X mainly because his intercepts comes with falter safety net and is done with heavies. So his intercepts works against auto blocks and unstoppable with the risk of getting hit.
The cooldown gets reduced per dex so baiting specials gets rid of most of it and using his falter for intercept doesn't interrupt his rotation or building charges if you know what you're doing.
Ok for the people saying Molegod assisted intercept is bad because of how low block proficiency there is one thing you are forgetting. Molegod gains +370 physical resistance per monster mass he has. This is a massive increase and when you stack up to around 10 monster mass this physical resistance is so huge that it makes block damage very minimal
You know what’s better than minimal block damage? No block damage.
Elsa, Killmonger and Mr Negative are better
Killmonger needs 3 bars of power and you intercepting on your own to get his assisted intercepts to have no block damage
Yep, true. But that’s still better than moleman’s assisted intercept who can’t get any without block damage.
Dont think theres any content where it's worth it to go through 3 bars of power and intercepting on your own to get 3 easy interceptions with no block damage
Ok for the people saying Molegod assisted intercept is bad because of how low block proficiency there is one thing you are forgetting. Molegod gains +370 physical resistance per monster mass he has. This is a massive increase and when you stack up to around 10 monster mass this physical resistance is so huge that it makes block damage very minimal. Also the fact that he can do his assistant intercept at any time in the entire fight is why I say he has the best one. Elsa can only do here every 10 or so seconds, Killmonger can only do 2 per sp1, Mister negative has to sacrifice some damage to do tons of assisted intercepts, the only champions that have easy access to assisted intercepts at any time in the entire fight are Molegod and Ghost
Every champ has a downside to their assisted intercepts. Apart from needing to take blocked damage any situation where buffs get nullified or unblockable is involved also messes with molemans intercepts.
He has the advantage when it comes to frequency of intercepts but there's rarely a time where you need that amount of intercepts. I personally find Ghost and Prof X the most useful for intercept scenarios
I disagree that every champ has downsides to assisted evades. The ones that come to mind for intercepts are Ghost, Elsa, killmonger, Moleman, prof X, Mr negative.
Ghost doesn’t have a downside, she just phases
Elsa has a cooldown of 11 seconds, which is plenty of time to bait out specials and use your own until it comes back.
Mr Negative’s is part of his rotation, so there’s no downside there. All you need to do is have light energy which is easy to get with a well timed block, or remove the dex buff from yourself.
Killmonger has his indestructible charges and counter punch charges to remove block damage. And for stun immune match ups you can well timed block to reduce block damage.
Prof X is a weird one, as it’s every 20 seconds (-1 second per dex you perform), so a longer cooldown than Elsa, but it is also is part of his building up charges so you don’t always want to use the falter as an intercept , as you can’t build as many charges.
Moleman does seem to have downsides, having to take blocked hits can be really detrimental, especially if you want to intercept a lot for foresight nodes. Hes the only one that needs to use a buff for it.
Overall, for ease of use and lack of downsides I honestly think ghost is the best, followed by Mr Negative
Looks like I've worded it weirdly, when I say they have a downside I mean they're scenarios where the assisted intercepts are inaccessible.
If there's armour breaks/a miss counter ghost can't phase for intercepts
Also it's on a timer which can backfire if the AI does not cooperate
Both are suicide friendly, and also who has the best assisted intercept in the game? Also, Mole-Man bleed is goated for Do you Bleed and when paired with the despair mastery can be a very good way to prevent healing effects.
Ghost has the best assisted intercept because ghost do be ghost
Moleman isn’t the second best assisted intercept champ, Elsa and Mr Negative both have better intercept openings than Moleman since you don’t need to take a blocked hit to do so. Sacrificing health for an intercept isn’t always a good idea.
There's also KM who is arguably better because you don't need to sacrifice his damage for it
Both are suicide friendly, and also who has the best assisted intercept in the game? Also, Mole-Man bleed is goated for Do you Bleed and when paired with the despair mastery can be a very good way to prevent healing effects.
Ghost has the best assisted intercept because ghost do be ghost
Moleman isn’t the second best assisted intercept champ, Elsa and Mr Negative both have better intercept openings than Moleman since you don’t need to take a blocked hit to do so. Sacrificing health for an intercept isn’t always a good idea.
There's also KM who is arguably better because you don't need to sacrifice his damage for it
Oh yeah I forgot to mention my primary evidence for Molegod being better. KT1 placed him about Shang Chi in his ranking so because one singular youtuber agrees with me he is better GG get wrecked peeps.
Assisted intercepts are overrated just get good at intercepts 5head.
Also Shang can trigger his stun and unblockable through block, so he doesn’t need to intercept to create openings either. He’s miles ahead of every other skill champ in so many ways it’s not even funny (imo)
The "best evade counter in game" is also bugged and will have to sacrifice all damage to counter evade again once he's fixed.
Can't wait for the fallout from that one...
Judging by how many people who took him to r3 don't even realize this is unintentional, it's going to be a big one .
There can't be that many, it's one of the first lines in his abilities
Trust me when I say this, but I've talked to quite a few people with a r5 or r3 molegod and they have no idea. I wouldn't have known about this too if I didn't read the kit for fun one day, a large majority have just come to accept that this is how moleman works, it makes sense though. They've left this in the game for quite a while.
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I'd love to think everyone reads abilities first... but we've all seen many posts where people have misunderstood a champ and how they function.
Elsa, Killmonger and Mr Negative are better
All the other champs mentioned here are fine in their own right too. Nothing wrong with any of them. Just use whoever works for your account.
Why did I rank Moleman? I pulled him and he was the best option considering how poor my 6* skill roster was at the time. He has a ton of utility and damage and is just fine when played as intended. If it's an evader I don't use heavies. If they aren't an evader, I do. He works awesome just like that and fights still end in relatively the same amount of time.
I don't have a Shang Chi and it could be years before I pull him. Don't have 6* Elsa and not investing in the 5* at this point. Don't have Mr. Negative either and killmonger missed the boat since I just pulled him after all this time so don't feel the need to rank him now.
It would be dumb to wait in hopes of Shang Chi or another champ when a perfectly good (amazing) champ was already in my roster and provides utility that previously was not there.
No regrets on the rankup and won't care if he does change because I ranked him up and use him the way he was written up. He absolutely shreds and does not lose all damage even when you play him as intended. Those bleeds add up quick and fights still end pretty darn quickly when tearing through evaders and autoblockers.
He has the advantage when it comes to frequency of intercepts but there's rarely a time where you need that amount of intercepts.
I personally find Ghost and Prof X the most useful for intercept scenarios
Rhulk has massive resistance and labyrinth damage cap.
Ghost doesn’t have a downside, she just phases
Elsa has a cooldown of 11 seconds, which is plenty of time to bait out specials and use your own until it comes back.
Mr Negative’s is part of his rotation, so there’s no downside there. All you need to do is have light energy which is easy to get with a well timed block, or remove the dex buff from yourself.
Killmonger has his indestructible charges and counter punch charges to remove block damage. And for stun immune match ups you can well timed block to reduce block damage.
Prof X is a weird one, as it’s every 20 seconds (-1 second per dex you perform), so a longer cooldown than Elsa, but it is also is part of his building up charges so you don’t always want to use the falter as an intercept , as you can’t build as many charges.
Moleman does seem to have downsides, having to take blocked hits can be really detrimental, especially if you want to intercept a lot for foresight nodes. Hes the only one that needs to use a buff for it.
Overall, for ease of use and lack of downsides I honestly think ghost is the best, followed by Mr Negative
There is so much you can do with Negative to get your intercepts, no damage needs to be sacrificed. Could you explain why you think you need to sacrifice damage for him?
Also, Moleman can’t get his intercepts when you get buffs nullified, or punished, or when you’re on low health, or when you can’t take blocked hits, or when getting touched by the opponent is bad, like destructive feedback. Putting moleman and ghost in the same category here is crazy wrong
OP doesn’t have a Shang Chi
If there's armour breaks/a miss counter ghost can't phase for intercepts
Elsa and negative can't use their assisted intercept if the defender counters evade
Moleman is dependent on taking blocked hits and triggering unstoppable buff which is susceptible to nullify
KM needs to throw specials and take a hit on the block
Prof Xs assisted intercept won't work vs miss counters.
From my personal experience I find ghost to be by far the best for assisted intercept and then prof X mainly because his intercepts comes with falter safety net and is done with heavies. So his intercepts works against auto blocks and unstoppable with the risk of getting hit.
The cooldown gets reduced per dex so baiting specials gets rid of most of it and using his falter for intercept doesn't interrupt his rotation or building charges if you know what you're doing.
Vs just heavying once and taking like 300 damage
Yeah every intercept mechanic has situations when they won’t work, it’s part of all of the game interactions.
Also Shang can trigger his stun and unblockable through block, so he doesn’t need to intercept to create openings either. He’s miles ahead of every other skill champ in so many ways it’s not even funny (imo)
Me and the boys getting intercepts
This will be a major hit to moleman.
Champs where you have to choose between utility or damage are usually flawed