Mr. Negative - Heavy Chain Issue [Merged Thread]

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  • FlyGalaxyBombFlyGalaxyBomb Member Posts: 778 ★★★

    Typhoon said:

    Typhoon said:

    In the past Kabam has changed characters like old man logan so that heavy spamming is not possible. With that said, the fact that they did it without telling anyone is just more of the same from them. Lack of transparency, cheap tricks.

    You're assuming they did it on purpose. Do you have anything from Kabam, like the change log or a post confirming this a planned change? No, I didn't think you did. You're just out here spreading hate on purpose without any facts to go off of because you hate Kabam but then continue to play the game for some unknown reason.

    They announced the OML. They did change to She Hulk and announced that.

    Hercules to this day remains the only champ where an interaction was changed without it being in a change log or post. You're absolutely ridiculous.
    nobody likes you
    What I love about forums ^_^
    People resorting to personal attacks because they can’t figure out a way to respond to valid points?
    nahhh lmao, people always bashing each other for what they see fit. I ain't supporting anyone but dope to see it from and outside POV (◕‿◕)
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,018 ★★★★★

    Typhoon said:

    In the past Kabam has changed characters like old man logan so that heavy spamming is not possible. With that said, the fact that they did it without telling anyone is just more of the same from them. Lack of transparency, cheap tricks.

    You're assuming they did it on purpose. Do you have anything from Kabam, like the change log or a post confirming this a planned change? No, I didn't think you did. You're just out here spreading hate on purpose without any facts to go off of because you hate Kabam but then continue to play the game for some unknown reason.

    They announced the OML. They did change to She Hulk and announced that.

    Hercules to this day remains the only champ where an interaction was changed without it being in a change log or post. You're absolutely ridiculous.
    And Bishop, even though they clarified it later
    Forgot about Bishop.
  • Malreck04Malreck04 Member Posts: 3,324 ★★★★★

    Malreck04 said:

    It’s very much a pain, but I don’t think it’s been confirmed as a definite decision to stop him chaining in the corner. Hopefully it’ll sort itself out and Kabam fixes the timing issues.

    And besides, I don’t think anyone ranked up Negative specifically to chain in the corner. It takes away almost nothing from his uses.

    I would assume it's a result of all the timing issues currently in game. Granted we can't know that for sure but this is certainly not a time I would assume timings not working being intentional
    I wouldn’t be surprised, would be awfully coincidental timing if it wasn’t. After the timing issues have been sorted and if he’s still not able to heavy chain, that’s when I’d be a little worried something was up.
    * “Hercules is now working as always intended” flashbacks *
    I get the alarm, but it’s not really an ability change. If something was changed about his abilities, then I’d get it. But animations? People jump too fast to shout nerf, until confirmed otherwise it’s more likely it’s a timing issue. I mean think about it, we’re in the middle of one of the buggiest times in Kabam’s history in terms of gameplay timing, what’s more likely?
    Like you mentioned, the only thing we can do is wait. I’m no expert on this champ but only time will tell if this will be a permanent change or a timing bug
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,018 ★★★★★

    Typhoon said:

    Typhoon said:

    In the past Kabam has changed characters like old man logan so that heavy spamming is not possible. With that said, the fact that they did it without telling anyone is just more of the same from them. Lack of transparency, cheap tricks.

    You're assuming they did it on purpose. Do you have anything from Kabam, like the change log or a post confirming this a planned change? No, I didn't think you did. You're just out here spreading hate on purpose without any facts to go off of because you hate Kabam but then continue to play the game for some unknown reason.

    They announced the OML. They did change to She Hulk and announced that.

    Hercules to this day remains the only champ where an interaction was changed without it being in a change log or post. You're absolutely ridiculous.
    nobody likes you
    What I love about forums ^_^
    People resorting to personal attacks because they can’t figure out a way to respond to valid points?
    nahhh lmao, people always bashing each other for what they see fit. I ain't supporting anyone but dope to see it from and outside POV (◕‿◕)
    Typoon is not an outside "POV". He's said the same thing for ages. But he's had the same hateful attitude for the same amount of time as well.

    But since it's hateful towards Kabam, no one ever has an issue with it. Just how the forums are. You can't be liked on the forums unless your opinion is that Kabam is the worst company in the world.
  • KerneasKerneas Member Posts: 3,825 ★★★★★
    I am willing to believe here, that tjis time it indeed isn't intentional. The game is a mess, mechanics like Parry&Dex work half the time, dash distances changes, SP spacing changed, why not heavies? Now it's up to Kabam: keep it the way it is now, offer rdt or announce it as a bug and try to fix it? Their call tbh, let's wait and see what they do.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,018 ★★★★★
    Typhoon said:

    Typhoon said:

    Typhoon said:

    In the past Kabam has changed characters like old man logan so that heavy spamming is not possible. With that said, the fact that they did it without telling anyone is just more of the same from them. Lack of transparency, cheap tricks.

    You're assuming they did it on purpose. Do you have anything from Kabam, like the change log or a post confirming this a planned change? No, I didn't think you did. You're just out here spreading hate on purpose without any facts to go off of because you hate Kabam but then continue to play the game for some unknown reason.

    They announced the OML. They did change to She Hulk and announced that.

    Hercules to this day remains the only champ where an interaction was changed without it being in a change log or post. You're absolutely ridiculous.
    nobody likes you
    What I love about forums ^_^
    People resorting to personal attacks because they can’t figure out a way to respond to valid points?
    nahhh lmao, people always bashing each other for what they see fit. I ain't supporting anyone but dope to see it from and outside POV (◕‿◕)
    Typoon is not an outside "POV". He's said the same thing for ages. But he's had the same hateful attitude for the same amount of time as well.

    But since it's hateful towards Kabam, no one ever has an issue with it. Just how the forums are. You can't be liked on the forums unless your opinion is that Kabam is the worst company in the world.
    You're one to talk about hateful attitudes, pal. You've been bashing people on the forums long before I've been here.

    It's no secret that I love this game but have a problem with the way Kabam runs it, and yes, I'm very pessimistic when it comes to things like this. Don't pretend like you're an angel.
    I'm not an angel but I start off trying to have real conversations vs resorting straight to the hate like you. I prefer to have all the facts before I make a bold claim like saying something was intentionally nerfed. I let myself get drawn into the personal attacks and that's where it comes from. You're right, I am not an angel.
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★
    We'll find out soon enough if it's intentional or not. If not, great. If it is, then Kabam pulled the rug again with no explanation until people found out for themselves and they have to explain.

    Time will tell.
  • TyphoonTyphoon Member Posts: 1,846 ★★★★★

    Typhoon said:

    Typhoon said:

    In the past Kabam has changed characters like old man logan so that heavy spamming is not possible. With that said, the fact that they did it without telling anyone is just more of the same from them. Lack of transparency, cheap tricks.

    You're assuming they did it on purpose. Do you have anything from Kabam, like the change log or a post confirming this a planned change? No, I didn't think you did. You're just out here spreading hate on purpose without any facts to go off of because you hate Kabam but then continue to play the game for some unknown reason.

    They announced the OML. They did change to She Hulk and announced that.

    Hercules to this day remains the only champ where an interaction was changed without it being in a change log or post. You're absolutely ridiculous.
    nobody likes you
    What I love about forums ^_^
    People resorting to personal attacks because they can’t figure out a way to respond to valid points?
    nahhh lmao, people always bashing each other for what they see fit. I ain't supporting anyone but dope to see it from and outside POV (◕‿◕)
    Typoon is not an outside "POV". He's said the same thing for ages. But he's had the same hateful attitude for the same amount of time as well.

    But since it's hateful towards Kabam, no one ever has an issue with it. Just how the forums are. You can't be liked on the forums unless your opinion is that Kabam is the worst company in the world.
    Yup, too few people here care about actual facts. They’d rather feel angry about something and blame Kabam rather than admit that there’s not always an evil explanation from Kabam twiddling their fingers and cackling. Kabam get stuff wrong, things slip through, or they make a mistake with what they decide. It doesn’t make them out to get you, malicious or anything else.

    Some just don’t care about what’s actually happening. The proof of that: So far, 5 people have disagreed with me asking Typhoon if he has any proof of it being done intentionally. I’m sure they will disagree with this too, but it just shows what a joke that sort of person is.

    People need to think logically, and wait for confirmation. Don’t be angry for no reason, it doesn’t reflect well on your character.
    I won't deny that my anger is premature. There are a lot of things wrong with the game right now and I'm frustrated like everyone is to different degrees. I'll shut up and we'll see what they have to say about it.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Typhoon said:

    Typhoon said:

    Typhoon said:

    In the past Kabam has changed characters like old man logan so that heavy spamming is not possible. With that said, the fact that they did it without telling anyone is just more of the same from them. Lack of transparency, cheap tricks.

    You're assuming they did it on purpose. Do you have anything from Kabam, like the change log or a post confirming this a planned change? No, I didn't think you did. You're just out here spreading hate on purpose without any facts to go off of because you hate Kabam but then continue to play the game for some unknown reason.

    They announced the OML. They did change to She Hulk and announced that.

    Hercules to this day remains the only champ where an interaction was changed without it being in a change log or post. You're absolutely ridiculous.
    nobody likes you
    What I love about forums ^_^
    People resorting to personal attacks because they can’t figure out a way to respond to valid points?
    nahhh lmao, people always bashing each other for what they see fit. I ain't supporting anyone but dope to see it from and outside POV (◕‿◕)
    Typoon is not an outside "POV". He's said the same thing for ages. But he's had the same hateful attitude for the same amount of time as well.

    But since it's hateful towards Kabam, no one ever has an issue with it. Just how the forums are. You can't be liked on the forums unless your opinion is that Kabam is the worst company in the world.
    Yup, too few people here care about actual facts. They’d rather feel angry about something and blame Kabam rather than admit that there’s not always an evil explanation from Kabam twiddling their fingers and cackling. Kabam get stuff wrong, things slip through, or they make a mistake with what they decide. It doesn’t make them out to get you, malicious or anything else.

    Some just don’t care about what’s actually happening. The proof of that: So far, 5 people have disagreed with me asking Typhoon if he has any proof of it being done intentionally. I’m sure they will disagree with this too, but it just shows what a joke that sort of person is.

    People need to think logically, and wait for confirmation. Don’t be angry for no reason, it doesn’t reflect well on your character.
    I won't deny that my anger is premature. There are a lot of things wrong with the game right now and I'm frustrated like everyone is to different degrees. I'll shut up and we'll see what they have to say about it.
    I get that, and I get feeling angry. If Kabam say it’s intentional, I’ll be right there with you being annoyed. Just try and think through things logically I guess, and base things on what we know, and what has and hasn’t been confirmed.
  • TyphoonTyphoon Member Posts: 1,846 ★★★★★
    Ebony_Naw said:

    Typhoon said:

    Typhoon said:

    Typhoon said:

    In the past Kabam has changed characters like old man logan so that heavy spamming is not possible. With that said, the fact that they did it without telling anyone is just more of the same from them. Lack of transparency, cheap tricks.

    You're assuming they did it on purpose. Do you have anything from Kabam, like the change log or a post confirming this a planned change? No, I didn't think you did. You're just out here spreading hate on purpose without any facts to go off of because you hate Kabam but then continue to play the game for some unknown reason.

    They announced the OML. They did change to She Hulk and announced that.

    Hercules to this day remains the only champ where an interaction was changed without it being in a change log or post. You're absolutely ridiculous.
    nobody likes you
    What I love about forums ^_^
    People resorting to personal attacks because they can’t figure out a way to respond to valid points?
    nahhh lmao, people always bashing each other for what they see fit. I ain't supporting anyone but dope to see it from and outside POV (◕‿◕)
    Typoon is not an outside "POV". He's said the same thing for ages. But he's had the same hateful attitude for the same amount of time as well.

    But since it's hateful towards Kabam, no one ever has an issue with it. Just how the forums are. You can't be liked on the forums unless your opinion is that Kabam is the worst company in the world.
    Don't pretend like you're an angel.
    Ridiculous. Not like he goes around calling himself Angelzfyre
    Ok, that made me lol.
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  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Ebony_Naw said:

    Typhoon said:

    Typhoon said:

    Typhoon said:

    In the past Kabam has changed characters like old man logan so that heavy spamming is not possible. With that said, the fact that they did it without telling anyone is just more of the same from them. Lack of transparency, cheap tricks.

    You're assuming they did it on purpose. Do you have anything from Kabam, like the change log or a post confirming this a planned change? No, I didn't think you did. You're just out here spreading hate on purpose without any facts to go off of because you hate Kabam but then continue to play the game for some unknown reason.

    They announced the OML. They did change to She Hulk and announced that.

    Hercules to this day remains the only champ where an interaction was changed without it being in a change log or post. You're absolutely ridiculous.
    nobody likes you
    What I love about forums ^_^
    People resorting to personal attacks because they can’t figure out a way to respond to valid points?
    nahhh lmao, people always bashing each other for what they see fit. I ain't supporting anyone but dope to see it from and outside POV (◕‿◕)
    Typoon is not an outside "POV". He's said the same thing for ages. But he's had the same hateful attitude for the same amount of time as well.

    But since it's hateful towards Kabam, no one ever has an issue with it. Just how the forums are. You can't be liked on the forums unless your opinion is that Kabam is the worst company in the world.
    Don't pretend like you're an angel.
    Ridiculous. Not like he goes around calling himself Angelzfyre
    To be fair, we can’t always take usernames as what people are.

    I’m not exactly an angry piece of metal
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,018 ★★★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    Ebony_Naw said:

    Typhoon said:

    Typhoon said:

    Typhoon said:

    In the past Kabam has changed characters like old man logan so that heavy spamming is not possible. With that said, the fact that they did it without telling anyone is just more of the same from them. Lack of transparency, cheap tricks.

    You're assuming they did it on purpose. Do you have anything from Kabam, like the change log or a post confirming this a planned change? No, I didn't think you did. You're just out here spreading hate on purpose without any facts to go off of because you hate Kabam but then continue to play the game for some unknown reason.

    They announced the OML. They did change to She Hulk and announced that.

    Hercules to this day remains the only champ where an interaction was changed without it being in a change log or post. You're absolutely ridiculous.
    nobody likes you
    What I love about forums ^_^
    People resorting to personal attacks because they can’t figure out a way to respond to valid points?
    nahhh lmao, people always bashing each other for what they see fit. I ain't supporting anyone but dope to see it from and outside POV (◕‿◕)
    Typoon is not an outside "POV". He's said the same thing for ages. But he's had the same hateful attitude for the same amount of time as well.

    But since it's hateful towards Kabam, no one ever has an issue with it. Just how the forums are. You can't be liked on the forums unless your opinion is that Kabam is the worst company in the world.
    Don't pretend like you're an angel.
    Ridiculous. Not like he goes around calling himself Angelzfyre
    To be fair, we can’t always take usernames as what people are.

    I’m not exactly an angry piece of metal
    I thought you might just be a bad tasting metal personally.
    That was my assumption as well lol
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,018 ★★★★★

    Typhoon said:

    Typhoon said:

    Typhoon said:

    In the past Kabam has changed characters like old man logan so that heavy spamming is not possible. With that said, the fact that they did it without telling anyone is just more of the same from them. Lack of transparency, cheap tricks.

    You're assuming they did it on purpose. Do you have anything from Kabam, like the change log or a post confirming this a planned change? No, I didn't think you did. You're just out here spreading hate on purpose without any facts to go off of because you hate Kabam but then continue to play the game for some unknown reason.

    They announced the OML. They did change to She Hulk and announced that.

    Hercules to this day remains the only champ where an interaction was changed without it being in a change log or post. You're absolutely ridiculous.
    nobody likes you
    What I love about forums ^_^
    People resorting to personal attacks because they can’t figure out a way to respond to valid points?
    nahhh lmao, people always bashing each other for what they see fit. I ain't supporting anyone but dope to see it from and outside POV (◕‿◕)
    Typoon is not an outside "POV". He's said the same thing for ages. But he's had the same hateful attitude for the same amount of time as well.

    But since it's hateful towards Kabam, no one ever has an issue with it. Just how the forums are. You can't be liked on the forums unless your opinion is that Kabam is the worst company in the world.
    Yup, too few people here care about actual facts. They’d rather feel angry about something and blame Kabam rather than admit that there’s not always an evil explanation from Kabam twiddling their fingers and cackling. Kabam get stuff wrong, things slip through, or they make a mistake with what they decide. It doesn’t make them out to get you, malicious or anything else.

    Some just don’t care about what’s actually happening. The proof of that: So far, 5 people have disagreed with me asking Typhoon if he has any proof of it being done intentionally. I’m sure they will disagree with this too, but it just shows what a joke that sort of person is.

    People need to think logically, and wait for confirmation. Don’t be angry for no reason, it doesn’t reflect well on your character.
    I won't deny that my anger is premature. There are a lot of things wrong with the game right now and I'm frustrated like everyone is to different degrees. I'll shut up and we'll see what they have to say about it.
    I get that, and I get feeling angry. If Kabam say it’s intentional, I’ll be right there with you being annoyed. Just try and think through things logically I guess, and base things on what we know, and what has and hasn’t been confirmed.
    Exactly, save the anger for what the situation ends in if it is a nerf. Getting angry now only makes that someone look foolish if it is just a bug which is 99% of the time.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    @ItsDamien @Demonzfyre

    “Beneath the gold, the bitter steel”

    Named myself after a Song of Ice and Fire character, the book series GoT adapted

    My alt account is called Bloodraven, his brother
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Not gonna lie @ItsDamien i don’t have a clue where to start guessing why you chose your username
  • Doomsfist79Doomsfist79 Member Posts: 922 ★★★
    edited September 2021

    Typhoon said:

    In the past Kabam has changed characters like old man logan so that heavy spamming is not possible. With that said, the fact that they did it without telling anyone is just more of the same from them. Lack of transparency, cheap tricks.

    You're assuming they did it on purpose. Do you have anything from Kabam, like the change log or a post confirming this a planned change? No, I didn't think you did. You're just out here spreading hate on purpose without any facts to go off of because you hate Kabam but then continue to play the game for some unknown reason.

    They announced the OML. They did change to She Hulk and announced that.

    Hercules to this day remains the only champ where an interaction was changed without it being in a change log or post. You're absolutely ridiculous.
    Seems you forgot about them changing the time out trick with Corvus and not saying anything until the community pointed it out.. or the time they changed AA.. or the time they changed drax.. or the time.. etc etc.. ie.. they do this all the time.. so it's not out of the question to expect a change being made without any notification from them..

    Kabam even ended up making a forum post in regards to the Corvus issue as it caused a ton of response... keep in mind this was after the fact..
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/198788/alliance-quest-timeout-penalty-accidental-change
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,018 ★★★★★
    Typhoon said:

    Fair. I also formally apologize to @Demonzfyre for my inappropriate comments. We usually don't agree on things and that's fine, but I am in the wrong on this one, so I am sorry.

    It's all good. We may not agree and that's fine. We're allowed to have opinions on the game and each other. I'm always up discussions, but I like them to be fact based instead of feelings based. Feelings always turn into attacks.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,566 ★★★★★

    Typhoon said:

    In the past Kabam has changed characters like old man logan so that heavy spamming is not possible. With that said, the fact that they did it without telling anyone is just more of the same from them. Lack of transparency, cheap tricks.

    You're assuming they did it on purpose. Do you have anything from Kabam, like the change log or a post confirming this a planned change? No, I didn't think you did. You're just out here spreading hate on purpose without any facts to go off of because you hate Kabam but then continue to play the game for some unknown reason.

    They announced the OML. They did change to She Hulk and announced that.

    Hercules to this day remains the only champ where an interaction was changed without it being in a change log or post. You're absolutely ridiculous.
    Seems you forgot about them changing the time out trick with Corvus and not saying anything until the community pointed it out.. or the time they changed AA.. or the time they changed drax.. or the time.. etc etc.. ie.. they do this all the time.. so it's not out of the question to expect a change being made without any notification from them..
    What change to Drax? You mean the unintended bypass that they flat-out said was not an intended outcome? That was made up-front all along.
    People seem to be confusing changes to intended workings with fixes here.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,018 ★★★★★

    @ItsDamien @Demonzfyre

    “Beneath the gold, the bitter steel”

    Named myself after a Song of Ice and Fire character, the book series GoT adapted

    My alt account is called Bloodraven, his brother

    Ah nice. Mine comes from a game I used to play hardcore called MechWarrior 3 and 4 back when it was hosted online through MSN.
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  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★

    Not gonna lie @ItsDamien i don’t have a clue where to start guessing why you chose your username

    Guess we'll never know!
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    Typhoon said:

    In the past Kabam has changed characters like old man logan so that heavy spamming is not possible. With that said, the fact that they did it without telling anyone is just more of the same from them. Lack of transparency, cheap tricks.

    You're assuming they did it on purpose. Do you have anything from Kabam, like the change log or a post confirming this a planned change? No, I didn't think you did. You're just out here spreading hate on purpose without any facts to go off of because you hate Kabam but then continue to play the game for some unknown reason.

    They announced the OML. They did change to She Hulk and announced that.

    Hercules to this day remains the only champ where an interaction was changed without it being in a change log or post. You're absolutely ridiculous.
    Seems you forgot about them changing the time out trick with Corvus and not saying anything until the community pointed it out.. or the time they changed AA.. or the time they changed drax.. or the time.. etc etc.. ie.. they do this all the time.. so it's not out of the question to expect a change being made without any notification from them..
    The time out trick was a fix they were building and it accidentally rolled out prematurely, so it wasn’t a silent change.

    AA change was firstly, a bug, but also was announced in patch notes. I don’t remember whether Drax was announced or not to be honest. I’ll have a search.
  • TyphoonTyphoon Member Posts: 1,846 ★★★★★
    edited September 2021

    Typhoon said:

    In the past Kabam has changed characters like old man logan so that heavy spamming is not possible. With that said, the fact that they did it without telling anyone is just more of the same from them. Lack of transparency, cheap tricks.

    You're assuming they did it on purpose. Do you have anything from Kabam, like the change log or a post confirming this a planned change? No, I didn't think you did. You're just out here spreading hate on purpose without any facts to go off of because you hate Kabam but then continue to play the game for some unknown reason.

    They announced the OML. They did change to She Hulk and announced that.

    Hercules to this day remains the only champ where an interaction was changed without it being in a change log or post. You're absolutely ridiculous.
    Seems you forgot about them changing the time out trick with Corvus and not saying anything until the community pointed it out.. or the time they changed AA.. or the time they changed drax.. or the time.. etc etc.. ie.. they do this all the time.. so it's not out of the question to expect a change being made without any notification from them..
    What change to Drax? You mean the unintended bypass that they flat-out said was not an intended outcome? That was made up-front all along.
    People seem to be confusing changes to intended workings with fixes here.
    He is referring to them not announcing there was an issue with the characters until they changed them. Drax and AA were playable for a long time before Kabam said they weren't supposed to have said features. I don't recall the Drax double hit to bypass Mordo ever being advertised as a known issue until it was changed.
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