High Ground is ridiculous and insane

AnotherPool

every 10 seconds gives defender a charge which can deal 1000 damage per block, it can be accumulated and no upper limit. 10 hits can remove one charge.
In T1/T2 war, average fight takes 80 seconds and 40-50 hits, so defender will have 3-4 charges and deal 3000-4000 damage on block, this is totally ridiculous and insane.

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Carmel1

Haji_Saab said:

The new high ground is just a anti HT and Doom node. Without incinerate and shock, you will hardly ever die to it.

I don't like it generally because it is just a potion forcer.

You forgot to add also Omega and Cable (because of degenerate)
Together with quake, ghost, tigra, prof X and other miss\evade champs that they took out.

Before they address this tactic, I don't understand why it's been a week and they still haven't comment one of the following:
1. our announcement was wrong. next season we'll have "high ground" instead of "untouchable"
2. the tactic you currently see "high ground" is wrong. until the season start we'll switch it to "untouchable" as mentioned in the announcement.

If 1 is true, they really need to listen about how broken it can be on some nodes.
if 2 is true, i hope they will give us enough time to try it before the season start.

KnightZero

Haji_Saab said:

The new high ground is just a anti HT and Doom node. Without incinerate and shock, you will hardly ever die to it.

I don't like it generally because it is just a potion forcer.

10 seconds is like a Void fight. There are times when the AI turtles and it's very easy to get back on the count. With 3 charges, each reparry will also make you lose 3k health. Which is garbage

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Lvernon15

High ground isn’t the tactic we have for the season and is being replaced with the proper tactic, but I definitely agree there’s an argument for this being a bit overtuned, feels a little like siphon

Amadeo01

Haji_Saab said:

The new high ground is just a anti HT and Doom node. Without incinerate and shock, you will hardly ever die to it.

I don't like it generally because it is just a potion forcer.

Way more than just torch/doom. As someone else mentioned, Omega and Cable are heavily affected. G99, guardian, domino trinity, hulkbuster, bwdo, Ultron against mutants...etc. the list goes on.

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TheAngryOne

Can confirm. Absolutely awful tactic. Today I faced a 6* Cap Marvel Movie on path 5 (protection node where you have to intercept). Funny if the ai becomes passive and doesn't let you intercept at all.

2 blocked hits: Yay, 25% HP max health gone 🥳🙄

Getting rid of war tactics would be the best thing to happen regarding alliance wars.

To everyone who acts like this node isn't a problem at all:

In Germany we have a saying that goes "Hochmut kommt vor dem Fall." 😁

Mauled

It’d even be better if you took a blocked hit and it reset the charges so you take the 5k damage or whatever then charges go back to 0, not carry on building. Dealing with a R4 Boss on High ground is going to make potion use go through the roof

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KnightZero

AnotherPool said:

suggestions:
- increase 10 seconds to 20 seconds
- remove 1 charge by 5 hits instead of 10
- reduce the energy damage from 1000 to 500 per change , capped at 3 charges (or just remove it).

Remove the incinerate/shock/degen thing itself. That's rubbish by itself.

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Nix2222

AnotherPool said:

Officially announced, high ground is ready for the next season.
Hope those guys said High Ground is nothing will enjoy it, I still believe it's going to be a disaster if no further change.

Carmel1 said:

Haji_Saab said:

The new high ground is just a anti HT and Doom node. Without incinerate and shock, you will hardly ever die to it.

I don't like it generally because it is just a potion forcer.

You forgot to add also Omega and Cable (because of degenerate)
Together with quake, ghost, tigra, prof X and other miss\evade champs that they took out.

Before they address this tactic, I don't understand why it's been a week and they still haven't comment one of the following:
1. our announcement was wrong. next season we'll have "high ground" instead of "untouchable"
2. the tactic you currently see "high ground" is wrong. until the season start we'll switch it to "untouchable" as mentioned in the announcement.

If 1 is true, they really need to listen about how broken it can be on some nodes.
if 2 is true, i hope they will give us enough time to try it before the season start.

I’m with you, I think we’ll hear more complaining after it hits. Hope I’m wrong but I doubt it.