CGR is by far the most overrated champ in the game. Wish I could get my cosmic T5cc back .
Y’all smoking something real with that take
I'm no. He actually does nothing well, except be incinerate immune.
Actually I take that back. Top 3 potion farmer.
CGR is maybe the best burst damage dealer in the game, if you play him right. So hitting 200k SP2's is "not doing well" ? Interesting.
From what I saw here, most champs that were listed were "god tier" champs. I wouldn't say about either of them that they are overrated. Why are they overrated? Because they don't work for a specific piece of content? That's perfectly normal in a game. It would be impossible to have a champ that works perfectly against ALL scenarios. We would probably be in the same case as OG Thor/SW
Someone mentioned the same thing in an earlier post. I don't think there are overrated champions. Overhyped, yes, especially when a new champ drops, but overrated no. Underrated champs on the other hand ...
I will probaly get threatened for this but i say Doom is overrated.
He is good, but imho BWCV is better.
As someone who runs suicides, I find myself using her a lot more than I use Doom, although that's also in part because I find her playstyle easier and her more sustainable with suicides than he is. I got him pretty late in my game play so although I have a maxed out 5* I use occasionally just because, I don't really ever rely on him for anything and in almost every scenario take BWCV in over him. Have a 6* R3 BWCV and Diablo so use them a lot...
CMM. Especially with the introduction of CGR and Herc.
Her main thing was destroying stuff before the fight caught up to you and you died. Well Herc and CGR both destroy stuff before the fight properly catches up to you and they both actually have some nice utility.
I would agree to 10% of comments in here and disagree to 90%. But.... I choose to calmly ignore the whole thread (which I read every comment of) and move on...
All this shows that different people like different champs, and that's good. Some good champs which I hate and will never upgrade or use are here too.
Champs which I regret (lil bit) ranking up are those 5* which now I own as duped 6* r1.
Morningstar - horrible damage output, takes too many fights to ramp up and ramping her just feels bad. Majority of other mystics do what she does better and faster.
Magik - alright, mostly joking with this one, but that 95% still bothers me every time I see it. Why couldn't they just make the power lock a guarantee? But no, Magik is a great champ, just... wanted an excuse to point that out.
BWCV/Quake - BEFORE THE PITCHFORKS COME OUT, yes, both of these are phenomenal champions with some of the best kits in the game. But, outside of quests/paths that they're built to counter, you will almost always find a better option. I consider them to be similar to Namor. They only really function well as counters. Maybe it's because I haven't r5'd her yet, and still working on suicides, but I don't see myself using BW over Doom or Voodoo in standard UC/Cav level fights. Quake is just... slow. At this point she's more of a safeguard for fights I'm not sure about, if I fail miserably with the champions I bring in I can throw out quake for a guaranteed win. But no way in hell am I taking quake through an entire path. Don't have the patience for that.
Personally I find the whole quake vs ghost debate pretty funny, because who in their right mind is gonna sit there and quake through entire quests every single day, regardless of how effective it is? Sounds brain-numbing to me.
For me it is any champ with a great claim to utility, but not to damage. Way back in the day I took hood to r3 as a 5* champ because he was "so good". The only good thing about him was stagger and fate seal, but the fights would be so long that I would die from simply messing up once. I would much prefer to nuke the enemy than lick them down.
Venom. His biggest claim to fame is an evade counter that only works against 9 champs. 2 of which don't even have evade in their base kit.
Criminally misinterpreted his utility.
Doesn't matter if two of them don't have evade in their base kit - in content of any substance Kabam almost never puts unawakened champs. And while he is great at counter spiderverse champs you've missed so much about him: - He can do buffed up - He can do diss track - Great for rich get richer - Armour break - Armour up, so he can counter Havok, if you run willpower you can heal in that fight. - Solid bleed - He's highly sustainable by consuming buffs of his sp1 and regening. Which can also enable him to counter nodes like rage.
She is very RNG based (very often goes 15-20 huts without a single fury). When she gets the fury, it is all about pushing the enemy over a bar and praying they throw the SP. One slight mistake or tiny stubborn AI and she loses everything. She allows for literally 0 fight flexibility, which is super impractical in endgame-ish content (Act 7 and so)
Imo, she is sometimes more RNG dependant than Domino.
I love Shulk and her utility isn't RNG dependent 🤷♀️
She is very RNG based (very often goes 15-20 huts without a single fury). When she gets the fury, it is all about pushing the enemy over a bar and praying they throw the SP. One slight mistake or tiny stubborn AI and she loses everything. She allows for literally 0 fight flexibility, which is super impractical in endgame-ish content (Act 7 and so)
Imo, she is sometimes more RNG dependant than Domino.
I love Shulk and her utility isn't RNG dependent 🤷♀️
That is your holy right. I don't nees her utility. For heal reversal I have Void&Torch, for countering Unstop I have Kali and CapIW. Poison immunity is covered by all my robots and other champs. That's maybe why I dislike her
Domino, Sunspot, Elsa, G2099, Venom and Sorcerer Supreme are all overrated?
First, no. All of the champs mentioned are pretty amazing. I've used all of them in Act 7 multiple times. Domino shreds in Variant 8. Each has great uses throughout the contest, and that's what matters. Do you have a better mystic champ than Sorcerer Supreme? Great, then use that champ. Doesn't mean SS is overrated.
Second, and more importantly, who is overrating them? There are about zero posts on this forum touting them as the best champs, only threads like this one in which people claim they are overrated without showing where. No one is claiming they're the best of their respective classes.
IMO most overrating happens when a new champ is announced (Knull, for example), and people claim the champ is going to be the next BGT attacker before they've even used said champ. Happens a lot.
Another day the term overrated is misinterpreted. Saying a champ is overrated doesn’t take anything from them. It just means they are overvalued. Purple grapes are ok but they will never be on the same level of green grapes. Though venom is most certainly not overrated, don’t know how that got there
aegon is obviously extremely good and almost a must have for things like the abyss... but day to day
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- He's not particularly good for monthly EQ, or Side events
I agree with you on the day to day but will counter that Aegon has use in Cavalier EQ when the Skill quest is the "Shrug Off" month like we currently have. There are better options, sure, but he puts in work. That being said, he can be a gamble with suicides for that quest; with bad RNG on how many hits before his first fight Purify triggers, he can take a lot of heal blocked Bleed/Poison.
aegon is obviously extremely good and almost a must have for things like the abyss... but day to day
...
- He's not particularly good for monthly EQ, or Side events
I agree with you on the day to day but will counter that Aegon has use in Cavalier EQ when the Skill quest is the "Shrug Off" month like we currently have. There are better options, sure, but he puts in work. That being said, he can be a gamble with suicides for that quest; with bad RNG on how many hits before his first fight Purify triggers, he can take a lot of heal blocked Bleed/Poison.
I use him in this one too; run Nick, aegon, kingpin, Deadpool, Hood. Sometimes drop hood or Deadpool for Korg depending on the lane, but aegon will do 4-5 fights on the lane as it's only that first fight that you need the luck.
As a suicides user I still hate that heal block, but aegon, once he's going, is a monster for that cav EQ.
Im on board with the others saying gully 2099, I didnt have her until recently, took her to R2 (unawakened still) and used her in 7.1 where the opponent gets more combat power for every crit-hit. Average hits per fight was around 170 or something ridiculous. Probably just me not understanding how to use her.
What a controversial question. But I'll say it is Domino coz some players do overrate her a lot Same with cgr He is top tier but no way the best cosmic champ Corvus herc and hype provide more utility with great damage Lastly sunspot Only damage No real utility Fun champ tho
CMM. Especially with the introduction of CGR and Herc.
Her main thing was destroying stuff before the fight caught up to you and you died. Well Herc and CGR both destroy stuff before the fight properly catches up to you and they both actually have some nice utility.
I still love my CMM, but I am slightly annoyed that she needs Nick to get extended binary, whereas Herc, CGR and Corvus don't need synergies. Without Nick, it's too stressful to play her, but it is possible to.
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Doom is overrated.
He is good, but imho BWCV is better.
So hitting 200k SP2's is "not doing well" ? Interesting.
From what I saw here, most champs that were listed were "god tier" champs.
I wouldn't say about either of them that they are overrated.
Why are they overrated? Because they don't work for a specific piece of content? That's perfectly normal in a game.
It would be impossible to have a champ that works perfectly against ALL scenarios. We would probably be in the same case as OG Thor/SW
Someone mentioned the same thing in an earlier post. I don't think there are overrated champions. Overhyped, yes, especially when a new champ drops, but overrated no.
Underrated champs on the other hand ...
Her main thing was destroying stuff before the fight caught up to you and you died. Well Herc and CGR both destroy stuff before the fight properly catches up to you and they both actually have some nice utility.
I choose to calmly ignore the whole thread (which I read every comment of) and move on...
All this shows that different people like different champs, and that's good.
Some good champs which I hate and will never upgrade or use are here too.
Champs which I regret (lil bit) ranking up are those 5* which now I own as duped 6* r1.
Keep'em coming, boys!
Hear me out.
Morningstar - horrible damage output, takes too many fights to ramp up and ramping her just feels bad. Majority of other mystics do what she does better and faster.
Magik - alright, mostly joking with this one, but that 95% still bothers me every time I see it. Why couldn't they just make the power lock a guarantee? But no, Magik is a great champ, just... wanted an excuse to point that out.
BWCV/Quake - BEFORE THE PITCHFORKS COME OUT, yes, both of these are phenomenal champions with some of the best kits in the game. But, outside of quests/paths that they're built to counter, you will almost always find a better option. I consider them to be similar to Namor. They only really function well as counters. Maybe it's because I haven't r5'd her yet, and still working on suicides, but I don't see myself using BW over Doom or Voodoo in standard UC/Cav level fights. Quake is just... slow. At this point she's more of a safeguard for fights I'm not sure about, if I fail miserably with the champions I bring in I can throw out quake for a guaranteed win. But no way in hell am I taking quake through an entire path. Don't have the patience for that.
Personally I find the whole quake vs ghost debate pretty funny, because who in their right mind is gonna sit there and quake through entire quests every single day, regardless of how effective it is? Sounds brain-numbing to me.
Doesn't matter if two of them don't have evade in their base kit - in content of any substance Kabam almost never puts unawakened champs. And while he is great at counter spiderverse champs you've missed so much about him:
- He can do buffed up
- He can do diss track
- Great for rich get richer
- Armour break
- Armour up, so he can counter Havok, if you run willpower you can heal in that fight.
- Solid bleed
- He's highly sustainable by consuming buffs of his sp1 and regening. Which can also enable him to counter nodes like rage.
That being said, he can be a gamble with suicides for that quest; with bad RNG on how many hits before his first fight Purify triggers, he can take a lot of heal blocked Bleed/Poison.
As a suicides user I still hate that heal block, but aegon, once he's going, is a monster for that cav EQ.
But I'll say it is Domino coz some players do overrate her a lot
Same with cgr
He is top tier but no way the best cosmic champ
Corvus herc and hype provide more utility with great damage
Lastly sunspot
Only damage
No real utility
Fun champ tho
Don't burn me guys 😁😁😁