How about introducing Thronebreaker-crystals?

Badass84

I know it has been talked about several times. But at the state of the game in my opinion it's time to rethink about an update for the Cavalier-crystals and give the higher player the possibility to purchase Thronebreaker-crystals.

As a Thronebreaker with 100 or more 6* you can invest 175 Units to have the summarized probability of 3% to get another 6* but 50% for a complete useless 3*. That's not attractive. Only for someone how just started the game maybe.

This would be a good output rate for a Thronebreaker-crystal:

40% - 4*
10% - Legendary (4* or 5*)
30% - 5*
12% - Mythic (5* or 6*)
5% - 6*
3% - 6* Nexus

Even if it's around 300 units to purchase, it would be attractive.

Mysterio

Yes. I want a TB-crystal.

I feel like we are in a state of the game where getting a 4-star champion feels equal to getting a 3-star champion 3 years ago. "Cool some shards for the better version I guess".

This makes 3-stars a lot more useless for anyone who is Thronebreaker (and even Cav). I would be 100% down to get this TB crystal since there is still a nearly 50% chance of getting a 4* which is almost useless at high ranks.

Badass84

Yes. I want a TB-crystal.

No other opinions?

Kerneas

No. I'm ok with 3*.

I think there are much better ways to invest 300 units

Badass84

Yes. I want a TB-crystal.

Kerneas said:

I think there are much better ways to invest 300 units

Maybe, but not if you have already fully explored content. 300 was just an idea. 200 would be better imo.

Scarcity27

I'm not opposed to this, but I will say that the chance of a legendary crystal should be higher than that of a 5* crystal. It's the logical thing to do considering legendary crystals have 4*s.
I think if Kabam ever released a TB crystal, they would more likely change the drop rates of the cav crystal, than remove the 3*s entirely.

Worknprogress

Yes, what this game needs is spenders having an even larger advantage

Kerneas

No. I'm ok with 3*.

Badass84 said:

Kerneas said:

I think there are much better ways to invest 300 units

Maybe, but not if you have already fully explored content. 300 was just an idea. 200 would be better imo.

If you have all masteries unlocked, all content explored, then sure, why not. But I can't speak from other position than my own, and I have still Act 6+7 to explore, as well as doing AoL, LoL and exploring Variants. So from my subjective POV it makes no sense. I also can't really judge how many people are f2p (bcs that plays a big role as well) and how many have actually explored everything as you said. That's why I voted what I voted

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Badass84

Yes. I want a TB-crystal.

Kerneas said:

Badass84 said:

Kerneas said:

I think there are much better ways to invest 300 units

Maybe, but not if you have already fully explored content. 300 was just an idea. 200 would be better imo.

If you have all masteries unlocked, all content explored, then sure, why not. But I can't speak from other position than my own, and I have still Act 6+7 to explore, as well as doing AoL, LoL and exploring Variants. So from my subjective POV it makes no sense. I also can't really judge how many people are f2p (bcs that plays a big role as well) and how many have actually explored everything as you said. That's why I voted what I voted

Oh, I myself haven't fully explored anything, there are still some paths in Act 6, Act 7 and in 2 Variants. Not to talk about Abyss. It's more about 'why should I spent units for Cavalier-crystala - give us something worth it'.

Badass84

Yes. I want a TB-crystal.

Worknprogress said:

Yes, what this game needs is spenders having an even larger advantage

The game needs people who pay, yes. Kabam is not a non-profit organization which just wants us to have fun. And you don't need to spend money to get units. 10k is possible every month with Arena, BC and the monthly events.

Steam97

Yes. I want a TB-crystal.

Badass84 said:

I know it has been talked about several times. But at the state of the game in my opinion it's time to rethink about an update for the Cavalier-crystals and give the higher player the possibility to purchase Thronebreaker-crystals.

As a Thronebreaker with 100 or more 6* you can invest 175 Units to have the summarized probability of 3% to get another 6* but 50% for a complete useless 3*. That's not attractive. Only for someone how just started the game maybe.

This would be a good output rate for a Thronebreaker-crystal:

40% - 4*
10% - Legendary (4* or 5*)
30% - 5*
12% - Mythic (5* or 6*)
5% - 6*
3% - 6* Nexus

Even if it's around 300 units to purchase, it would be attractive.

I want a crystal with less probability of 3 stars and more of 6 stars but I doubt they would make a similar crystal for only 300 units considering there is also the featured cavalier crystal that costs 300 units and is way worse than that. They changed the rates of cavs only few months ago, I doubt they will change something now for something as good as you want.

Worknprogress

Badass84 said:

Worknprogress said:

Yes, what this game needs is spenders having an even larger advantage

The game needs people who pay, yes. Kabam is not a non-profit organization which just wants us to have fun. And you don't need to spend money to get units. 10k is possible every month with Arena, BC and the monthly events.

I promise you don't have to explain the fact that the game needs people to spend to survive. However seeing as how one of the most common complaints in this game is the massive gap between spenders and non spenders, I don't think adding something to increase that gap even further would end up going down particularly well even if people think it would be good.

Badass84

Yes. I want a TB-crystal.

Worknprogress said:

Badass84 said:

Worknprogress said:

Yes, what this game needs is spenders having an even larger advantage

The game needs people who pay, yes. Kabam is not a non-profit organization which just wants us to have fun. And you don't need to spend money to get units. 10k is possible every month with Arena, BC and the monthly events.

I promise you don't have to explain the fact that the game needs people to spend to survive. However seeing as how one of the most common complaints in this game is the massive gap between spenders and non spenders, I don't think adding something to increase that gap even further would end up going down particularly well even if people think it would be good.

Why should there be an increase? The endgame-players only go for new champs in crystals. It is a possbility to narrow that gap by playing arena and grind for units for TB-crystals

Colinwhitworth69

I tnought Kabam said in a dev diary that they were not doing this any tie soon. But otherwise sure no one is gonna say they prefer getting 3-star champs.

Badass84

Yes. I want a TB-crystal.

Colinwhitworth69 said:

I tnought Kabam said in a dev diary that they were not doing this any tie soon. But otherwise sure no one is gonna say they prefer getting 3-star champs.

I know that they said this, but I think it's time to take a step back and analyse if it wouldn't be better to do it anyway.

StaphMember

Unlikely they’ll ever cut 3* out of progresión crystals because they act to “stabilize the game economy”. They could create a TB Crystal with a diminished 3* rate, but they’ll still be a possibility.

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LeNoirFaineant

No. I'm ok with 3*.

Badass84 said:

Worknprogress said:

Yes, what this game needs is spenders having an even larger advantage

The game needs people who pay, yes. Kabam is not a non-profit organization which just wants us to have fun. And you don't need to spend money to get units. 10k is possible every month with Arena, BC and the monthly events.

I love that you just explained to @Worknprogress that the game needs people to spend lol

DNA3000

Badass84 said:

I know it has been talked about several times. But at the state of the game in my opinion it's time to rethink about an update for the Cavalier-crystals and give the higher player the possibility to purchase Thronebreaker-crystals.

As a Thronebreaker with 100 or more 6* you can invest 175 Units to have the summarized probability of 3% to get another 6* but 50% for a complete useless 3*. That's not attractive. Only for someone how just started the game maybe.

This would be a good output rate for a Thronebreaker-crystal:

40% - 4*
10% - Legendary (4* or 5*)
30% - 5*
12% - Mythic (5* or 6*)
5% - 6*
3% - 6* Nexus

Even if it's around 300 units to purchase, it would be attractive.

You would basically get roughly the same statistical result if you just upgraded all Cav crystals to Nexus crystals.

Which at the moment has zero chance of happening.

Deder80

Yes. I want a TB-crystal.

I have to vote yes to this! It’s totally unfair to the TB not to have something of their own. They have work hard on getting that tile and count less hours doing so. Break down Kabam and give the TB their own crystal!

Badass84

Yes. I want a TB-crystal.

Pretty obvious what the community wants...