Why this side quest is The worst of all? Constructive feedback

The_man001

The reasons being-

1. The best rewards are guarded by RNGesus.
2. Energy cost is there.
3. Can do only 1 difficulty
4. Objectives, u have to find specific champions each day in some story or duels u cant practice them.

All of the undesirable qualities of side quest that received negative feedback in past is combined in this sq.

Clearly the worst sq of all to me.

GroundedWisdom

I think differently. I like having a Champ to search for, and even the Candy gives our choice of a Reward.

TheBair123

GroundedWisdom said:

I think differently. I like having a Champ to search for, and even the Candy gives our choice of a Reward.

well no, it actually doesn't give you choice of reward. if you run the side quest every day, you'll get everything in the store. you're just choosing what reward you get first. and seriously, you like having a champ to search for? wouldn't you rather just get a key in the calendar every day and not have to go searching for a champ?

Ghost_Fan

The_man001 said:

4. Objectives, u have to find specific champions each day in some story or duels u cant practice them.

I'm really trying to see why they decided this and I can't find the reason

Charlie21540

Honestly this feels like the rock bottom of all side quest. Even as far as the candy store itself. The rewards are just very weak as far as I'm concerned. Then add in everything @The_man001 said, this is easily one of the worst side quests in recent memory. I just don't even understand how this got approved or pushed though. It's lazy and uninspiring.

The_man001

Charlie21540 said:

Honestly this feels like the rock bottom of all side quest. Even as far as the candy store itself. The rewards are just very weak as far as I'm concerned. Then add in everything @The_man001 said, this is easily one of the worst side quests in recent memory. I just don't even understand how this got approved or pushed though. It's lazy and uninspiring.

Exactly it's crazy how this sq even got approved for release

BitterSteel

The main thing for me is that I think it’s high time we had a gate in the store for at the very least TB, ideally one for TB and one for Paragon

I understand it can’t be done immediately necessarily, but I hope it’s something that’s being worked on in the background.

World Eater

I haven’t run thru the side quest yet and definitely hate the idea of solving a riddle to find out who we have to fight to get a daily objective , but there’s no way this months side quest is worse than the trials of the Panther from 3 years ago that was so tuned up that they were harder than EQ or last years two moth side quest that was so unnecessarily complex and tedious.

Odachi

Being constructive, you run out of credibilty when you call something "the worst of all time" just because it's inconvenient for you.

Think of it as 30 loaded cav crystals with better odds, 90% for a 3* but 10% for something really good.

Edit: my first 'spin' was a hit

Ercarret

I...actually kind of like this Rift? I don't like them in general for several reasons and most of those reasons are still present, but one of the main things that frustrated me so incredibly much last time around was that the rewards weren't geared toward endgame players in the slightest. It just felt like you slogged through it and, hey, you got the top prize - 2K 6* shards! Woo?

Now, the top prize is significantly increased. 6* AGs! Amazing! The chances of getting one are ridiculously low, but they're at least there. That's something. I am finally interested in the stuff in the Rift, and that's actually pretty huge compared to how utterly bored and disinterested I was last time.

I wouldn't have minded if the chance of getting some of these top-tier rewards were a bit more dependent on progression, though. Maybe 1% for Cavs, 2,5% for TBs and 5% for Paragons?

GroundedWisdom

TheBair123 said:

GroundedWisdom said:

I think differently. I like having a Champ to search for, and even the Candy gives our choice of a Reward.

well no, it actually doesn't give you choice of reward. if you run the side quest every day, you'll get everything in the store. you're just choosing what reward you get first. and seriously, you like having a champ to search for? wouldn't you rather just get a key in the calendar every day and not have to go searching for a champ?

Actually, no I wouldn't. There's something to be said for mystery, and it's quite enjoyable to network with other Players to share answers. I play the game to be challenged in all sorts of ways, including the mind. Not just to test my arthritis.

altavista

GroundedWisdom said:

TheBair123 said:

GroundedWisdom said:

I think differently. I like having a Champ to search for, and even the Candy gives our choice of a Reward.

well no, it actually doesn't give you choice of reward. if you run the side quest every day, you'll get everything in the store. you're just choosing what reward you get first. and seriously, you like having a champ to search for? wouldn't you rather just get a key in the calendar every day and not have to go searching for a champ?

Actually, no I wouldn't. There's something to be said for mystery, and it's quite enjoyable to network with other Players to share answers. I play the game to be challenged in all sorts of ways, including the mind. Not just to test my arthritis.

I see where you're coming from, but I think only half if it is successful.

Trivia can be a form of challenge.
Being able to answer Who? to the the objective is good. It can be answered by yourself (a win for your knowledge of Marvel trivia), or it can be answered by the community (a win for collaboration).

But then having to ask Where? is not really successful. If the Duel search function was better, it would be alright, but since the search function is not that good, it makes it more burdensome. Finding out that, for example, Thanos is in 3.2.6 is not a satisfying thing to know. You have to go through the effort of completing the entire quest, just to fulfill this objective.

GroundedWisdom

altavista said:

GroundedWisdom said:

TheBair123 said:

GroundedWisdom said:

I think differently. I like having a Champ to search for, and even the Candy gives our choice of a Reward.

well no, it actually doesn't give you choice of reward. if you run the side quest every day, you'll get everything in the store. you're just choosing what reward you get first. and seriously, you like having a champ to search for? wouldn't you rather just get a key in the calendar every day and not have to go searching for a champ?

Actually, no I wouldn't. There's something to be said for mystery, and it's quite enjoyable to network with other Players to share answers. I play the game to be challenged in all sorts of ways, including the mind. Not just to test my arthritis.

I see where you're coming from, but I think only half if it is successful.

Trivia can be a form of challenge.
Being able to answer Who? to the the objective is good. It can be answered by yourself (a win for your knowledge of Marvel trivia), or it can be answered by the community (a win for collaboration).

But then having to ask Where? is not really successful. If the Duel search function was better, it would be alright, but since the search function is not that good, it makes it more burdensome. Finding out that, for example, Thanos is in 3.2.6 is not a satisfying thing to know. You have to go through the effort of completing the entire quest, just to fulfill this objective.

The community is quite knowledgeable, whether in-game, or on the Forum, or Line/Discord, even Goolge can be useful. There's usually someone that knows a Duel Target.

Vergeman78

And how does asking the community fulfill your need for challenge? Sounds more like having other people do the work and then just follow. Might as well just be a key in the calendar

DNA3000

Vergeman78 said:

And how does asking the community fulfill your need for challenge? Sounds more like having other people do the work and then just follow. Might as well just be a key in the calendar

You don't see any possible reason why the operator of a massively multiplayer game might include content that would encourage content creators to make videos explaining the content, encourage community members to discuss the content, and reward players who seek out other members of the community to ask for help with the content?

Yeah, might as well just hand everything out to everyone for no effort. Can't imagine any possible benefit for all of that nonsense.

BitterSteel

Guys, I mean, how long does it take to copy a duel target and duel a 3* level champ.

I really don’t mind it, I think there are plenty of bigger fish to fry and I just think this is a non-issue.

They have to come up with objectives sometimes, and these are less time consuming than “finish X fights with your finishing blow being a heavy” or “do X fights on a cloudy Wednesday afternoon”.

FiiNCH

BitterSteel said:

Guys, I mean, how long does it take to copy a duel target and duel a 3* level champ.

I really don’t mind it, I think there are plenty of bigger fish to fry and I just think this is a non-issue.

They have to come up with objectives sometimes, and these are less time consuming than “finish X fights with your finishing blow being a heavy” or “do X fights on a cloudy Wednesday afternoon”.

Agreed - while slightly inconvenient, the objectives this month are much better than mindlessly fighting over and over to complete an objective like in previous months.

GrassKnuckles

Didn’t even give us a “pick your path” key like the previous rifts

tusharNair

I got a 10K 6 stars shards RNG today, already better than most side quests in total, lolzz. one of my friend got a 6 star gem crystal. all others, candies. Huge RNG to how this months SQ distributes rewards to everyone, for some, mind blowing, for others, more or less like any other SQ or even worst(have not looked at candy store)

GrassKnuckles

tusharNair said:

I got a 10K 6 stars shards RNG today, already better than most side quests in total, lolzz. one of my friend got a 6 star gem crystal. all others, candies. Huge RNG to how this months SQ distributes rewards to everyone, for some, mind blowing, for others, more or less like any other SQ or even worst(have not looked at candy store)

Good for you, the other 90% of us can suffer

Demonzfyre

This SQ will be the death of this game. It's a slap in the face and people are quitting left and right. We need comp and RDTs.

DNA3000

Demonzfyre said:

This SQ will be the death of this game. It's a slap in the face and people are quitting left and right. We need comp and RDTs.

Feedback unclear: November side quest will give RDTs to players who die after taking the left path, and compensation packages to players who die after take the right path, but players must quit the game to collect rewards.

Wozzle007

I think the RNG of the rift would be ok if the store was actually good. But honestly it’s so meh for TB let alone Paragon players. Maybe Kabam are worried about the level if resources in the game with the battleground store and that’s why this side event is so bad for paragon players. I’ll probably still do it, but not excited by this one at all.

Noise72

I think 1 guaranteed rift key somewhere would have saved this event for me.

KennyPL

I guess there's never enough candy, right? I can bet that's all i'll get from these bs rift quest.

LeNoirFaineant

Demonzfyre said:

This SQ will be the death of this game. It's a slap in the face and people are quitting left and right. We need comp and RDTs.

I'm sure it's also a money grab. I'm not sure how, but with a greedy company like Kabam, it has to be a money grab.

Demonzfyre

LeNoirFaineant said:

Demonzfyre said:

This SQ will be the death of this game. It's a slap in the face and people are quitting left and right. We need comp and RDTs.

I'm sure it's also a money grab. I'm not sure how, but with a greedy company like Kabam, it has to be a money grab.

There's no other explanation. It just has to be.

GroundedWisdom

Demonzfyre said:

LeNoirFaineant said:

Demonzfyre said:

This SQ will be the death of this game. It's a slap in the face and people are quitting left and right. We need comp and RDTs.

I'm sure it's also a money grab. I'm not sure how, but with a greedy company like Kabam, it has to be a money grab.

There's no other explanation. It just has to be.

Bait and switch.

DNA3000

LeNoirFaineant said:

Demonzfyre said:

This SQ will be the death of this game. It's a slap in the face and people are quitting left and right. We need comp and RDTs.

I'm sure it's also a money grab. I'm not sure how, but with a greedy company like Kabam, it has to be a money grab.

System and method for monetizing the emotional sate of players of online games
Patent number: 29340922
Abstract: A system and method for extracting revenue from the emotional state of players is described. Such revenue may be generated through a process of collecting and processing physical attributes and substances characteristic of certain emotional states. One aspect of the disclosure describes an implementation involving the monetization of lacrimal fluids produced in response to specific negative emotional states.

ChiliDog

I did the r4 mats challenge. My big prize for the month.

Charlie21540

HeraldofNone said:

These are the decent Rifts.

You at least get something no matter what with the candy store, instead of landing on a T4cc fragment crystal like previous Rifts that nobody wants lol

Least this way you can choose your rewards to some extent 👍

I don't like the rifts at all. But at least in the past you could always get the opportunity to select what path you want, to help guarantee at least once that you would get something you want. Not this time. Kabam severly messed up this time around.