Battlegrounds season 3
Gmonkey
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To clarify are we being matched on prestige? Like war used to be or does victory track and gladiator circuit have different match making?
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/319592/battlegrounds-season-3-changelog#latest
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/319592/battlegrounds-season-3-changelog#latest
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If though it's the case that you get matched with anyone regardless of your deck based on league you are in I'm all for that.
If matchmaking is only based on BG rank then smaller accounts won't get very far. Also bad I suppose. But ultimately part of the game is account growth.
My own biased take is that to avoid sandbagging matchmaking should be based on BG rank. Big accounts will have an easier time at the beginning but eventually they should start facing each other at the top.
If you don't do that then you may have big accounts playing an essentially parallel game to get the same rewards as smaller accounts. At that point you might as well have two separate leagues.
Exact quote is “shortly after season 3 starts”. So definitely not the same as “from the beginning”.
Matchmaking Changes!
.We’ve seen a number of users with very high prestige using some very low ranked champions… all the way down to 2*s! What a weird thing to do, we thought, so we decided to change up some of the matchmaking parameters to help ensure users won’t have any reason to not bring their top teams to Battlegrounds arena. These changes will be going live shortly after season 3 starts.
Hopefully will be some type of “TOP xx #” of your DECK (like prestige of your best 10 in your Deck). So that you can opt for full teams of something other than your very top champs.
Full teams of all similar high 4* would let you have more variety in your selections, and be able to select more champs that count towards Kabam's Extra Points Structure (in Ally Event points) that last season included champs w/ Tags of Villain, Off. burst, and Def. Util.
As if they are trying to find a way around it...just play with your best deck dang it
Logically, the most direct way to fulfill their statement to offer no advantage to players not placing their "top teams" into their decks is to match based on what the game considers your "top team" to be, whether you actually use it or not. Of course, there's no way for the game servers to "calculate" what that literal strongest deck construction would be, but it can make reasonable (rank and rarity) guesses.
I feel what should happen naturally throughout the season is the people who should rise to the top will be those with stronger accounts and those with smaller accounts who are skillful enough to make up for their smaller roster and have beaten people with stronger accounts.
There should come a point where smaller accounts can't progress further in the league structure if they haven't tested themselves against stronger accounts.
I'm going to be quite frank because the conversation has gone on for some time, and I'm running out of politically correct ways of putting it.
People don't have the right to jump down and mess with the success of lower Matches, and there's nothing about skill involved in manipulating the Matchmaking like that.
It's also hypocritical because they're arguing that it shouldn't depend on what they're bringing, but they're literally relying on what they're bringing to stonewall weaker Players.
There, I said it.
I do agree that at some point the fights needs to be harder of course but a Cavalier facing a Paragon? With their top rosters? There is not a single alternate universe or reality where the Cavalier player beats the Paragon lol. So yes, harder fights absolutely, impossible to win fights, no unless you're close to GC cause GC is only for top players of course.
E.g. anything similar to prestige or title matchmaking would be probably the worst system. Someone new to a higher title or someone who has 5 strong champs and the rest significantly lower would most likely struggle more than say someone who has a full roster of similar strength even if that deck was lower in rarity. I'd argue someone, say a throne breaker with 5 6*r3 and 25 5*r5 as their best should be able to progress quicker, than someone say a cavalier with 30 5*r5 but I don't think they would if prestige/title/similar was the criteria. In this case the cavalier player now has things easier and accessible but the thronebreaker less so, they are punished by the new system
I'd still argue that in a league system, basing on league alone should be enough to eventually separate people into their correct places and account should be ignored. And I maintain if even battles are the aim, then you should be free to choose that level for yourself, not restricted to kabams measure of your best team. The person with 5 6*r3 should be allowed to remove them, use just 5*r5 and get even matches so they are not the ones punished.
For some reason, people have been using that justification for pecking off whoever they feel belongs in the same Tier, and that excuse holds about as much water as a fishnet.