Secondarily, how many champs did you have to go through to find even one line you could argue wasn’t functional text? Rofl.
Literally the first champion I clicked on. Also here is a definition of flavor text for you. May you choose not to die on this hill you're on.
Thanks for proving my point. as per your definition, flavor text are words that don’t have any function. Or don’t describe any function.
Even your example is literally describing how Spider-ham functions.
The only hill I’m on is “is this scoring intended?”. The Flavor text issue came up in this thread and I felt the need to not let y’all go on uninformed. Because someone seemed to think NF sig words weren’t describing what’s happening and are “flavor text”. Which is wholely incorrect
Secondarily, how many champs did you have to go through to find even one line you could argue wasn’t functional text? Rofl.
Literally the first champion I clicked on. Also here is a definition of flavor text for you. May you choose not to die on this hill you're on.
Thanks for proving my point. as per your definition, flavor text are words that don’t have any function. Or don’t describe any function.
Even your example is literally describing how Spider-ham functions.
His cartoon nature is literally flavor text to improve the atmosphere of the game. The game doesn't function the way you think it is.
“His cartoonish nature” is what your were talking about when you underlined the whole line of text? Lol. That’s soooo weird. Ok fine. I’ll give you “his cartoonish nature” as flavor text. But I could actually argue those words describe WHY he acts the way he does. Building more nonsense makes him build nonsense faster, owing to his cartoons sh nature. but fine fine. “His cartoonish nature” is flavor text. Because it doesn’t add function, so it must be flavor text.
Again real flavor text is something like on Titania. “Titania is immune to buffs. She doesn’t need your help”
“She doesn’t need your help” is clearly flavor text.
Secondarily, how many champs did you have to go through to find even one line you could argue wasn’t functional text? Rofl.
Literally the first champion I clicked on. Also here is a definition of flavor text for you. May you choose not to die on this hill you're on.
Thanks for proving my point. as per your definition, flavor text are words that don’t have any function. Or don’t describe any function.
Even your example is literally describing how Spider-ham functions.
The only hill I’m on is “is this scoring intended?”. The Flavor text issue came up in this thread and I felt the need to not let y’all go on uninformed. Because someone seemed to think NF sig words weren’t describing what’s happening and are “flavor text”. Which is wholely incorrect
You are wrong in every way, please just stop. Nick fury has flavour text in his abilities like most champs because a game without any flavour text would be really really bland and boring. The scoring is intended and really obviously at that and you don’t need a forum mod who usually have less game knowledge than many forum members to tell you that.
Secondarily, how many champs did you have to go through to find even one line you could argue wasn’t functional text? Rofl.
Literally the first champion I clicked on. Also here is a definition of flavor text for you. May you choose not to die on this hill you're on.
Thanks for proving my point. as per your definition, flavor text are words that don’t have any function. Or don’t describe any function.
Even your example is literally describing how Spider-ham functions.
The only hill I’m on is “is this scoring intended?”. The Flavor text issue came up in this thread and I felt the need to not let y’all go on uninformed. Because someone seemed to think NF sig words weren’t describing what’s happening and are “flavor text”. Which is wholely incorrect
You are wrong in every way, please just stop. Nick fury has flavour text in his abilities like most champs because a game without any flavour text would be really really bland and boring. The scoring is intended and really obviously at that and you don’t need a forum mod who usually have less game knowledge than many forum members to tell you that.
This is a forum, you can clearly refrain from commenting if you think it’s a waste of your time.
I literally got confirmation from a dev that I’m not in the wrong. Before I ever made a comment about “flavor text”. All Because I was fully willing to be wrong and take my whippings. But no need. Because I’m not.
The only reason I kept commenting was to possibly help one of y’all understand a little better. There is a lot of text in this game. Very little of it actually doesn’t serve any function. Like 0.1%
Even something that seems silly. Like ultron saying he’s “immune to bleed, poison and slow effects”. Why doesn’t it just say “bleed, poison and slow”? Because ultron isn’t slow immune. He’s immune to the effects of slow. So his evade will still trigger. Which is why it says those words exactly. Very similar to absorbing man not saying he needs to “intercept” he needs to “interrupt” and the distinction is massive.
All this to say, champ kits overall have very few words in them that don’t function. There are some. Sure. But none are in Nicks Kit.
Secondarily, how many champs did you have to go through to find even one line you could argue wasn’t functional text? Rofl.
Literally the first champion I clicked on. Also here is a definition of flavor text for you. May you choose not to die on this hill you're on.
Thanks for proving my point. as per your definition, flavor text are words that don’t have any function. Or don’t describe any function.
Even your example is literally describing how Spider-ham functions.
His cartoon nature is literally flavor text to improve the atmosphere of the game. The game doesn't function the way you think it is.
“His cartoonish nature” is what your were talking about when you underlined the whole line of text? Lol. That’s soooo weird. Ok fine. I’ll give you “his cartoonish nature” as flavor text. But I could actually argue those words describe WHY he acts the way he does. Building more nonsense makes him build nonsense faster, owing to his cartoons sh nature. but fine fine. “His cartoonish nature” is flavor text. Because it doesn’t add function, so it must be flavor text.
Again real flavor text is something like on Titania. “Titania is immune to buffs. She doesn’t need your help”
“She doesn’t need your help” is clearly flavor text.
Not gonna get further into the Nick fury debate (is it a debate if there is really only one person on the other side?) further than the following points: - Kabam designated the scores to be on health remaining. Regardless of how it got there. Even though Nick's first phase of health technically gets down to almost zero, the champion isn't KO'ed untill his second phase gets to zero. It's just a unique form of regen that isn't gamebreaking and is a totally valid way to play. - Kabam designated the scores to be on health remaining. Not health lost. - How in the heck would this work? Just banning Nick from BG's because he's good at it? Giving him zero points for health remaining when he goes to his second phase even though he still has health remaining?
The real tragedy is that you didn't automatically reference one of the 'Pools when discussing flavor text.
Secondarily, how many champs did you have to go through to find even one line you could argue wasn’t functional text? Rofl.
Literally the first champion I clicked on. Also here is a definition of flavor text for you. May you choose not to die on this hill you're on.
Thanks for proving my point. as per your definition, flavor text are words that don’t have any function. Or don’t describe any function.
Even your example is literally describing how Spider-ham functions.
His cartoon nature is literally flavor text to improve the atmosphere of the game. The game doesn't function the way you think it is.
“His cartoonish nature” is what your were talking about when you underlined the whole line of text? Lol. That’s soooo weird. Ok fine. I’ll give you “his cartoonish nature” as flavor text. But I could actually argue those words describe WHY he acts the way he does. Building more nonsense makes him build nonsense faster, owing to his cartoons sh nature. but fine fine. “His cartoonish nature” is flavor text. Because it doesn’t add function, so it must be flavor text.
Again real flavor text is something like on Titania. “Titania is immune to buffs. She doesn’t need your help”
“She doesn’t need your help” is clearly flavor text.
Not gonna get further into the Nick fury debate (is it a debate if there is really only one person on the other side?) further than the following points: - Kabam designated the scores to be on health remaining. Regardless of how it got there. Even though Nick's first phase of health technically gets down to almost zero, the champion isn't KO'ed untill his second phase gets to zero. It's just a unique form of regen that isn't gamebreaking and is a totally valid way to play. - Kabam designated the scores to be on health remaining. Not health lost. - How in the heck would this work? Just banning Nick from BG's because he's good at it? Giving him zero points for health remaining when he goes to his second phase even though he still has health remaining?
The real tragedy is that you didn't automatically reference one of the 'Pools when discussing flavor text.
This is a great example. This has tons of actual flavor text.
Secondarily, how many champs did you have to go through to find even one line you could argue wasn’t functional text? Rofl.
Literally the first champion I clicked on. Also here is a definition of flavor text for you. May you choose not to die on this hill you're on.
Thanks for proving my point. as per your definition, flavor text are words that don’t have any function. Or don’t describe any function.
Even your example is literally describing how Spider-ham functions.
Flavor text has always been interpreted to be text that evokes beyond mechanics. So when Nick Fury's description says he has an LMD that can be destroyed, but that actually doesn't happen mechanically, that's flavor text. The LMD never reaches zero health. Destroying it does not count as a defeat anywhere - such as in alliance war where attacker and defender defeats have consequences, or in content that requires you to defeat the defender "in one try." Nick Fury basically works the same way as Phoenix does, and yet Nick Fury's description and Phoenix's description clearly evoke completely different behaviors implemented with identical mechanics.
In answer to your question is Nick's scoring behavior intentional, it probably is not, but that's the wrong question. Designers don't explicitly intend every single behavior that emerges from their designs. The more proper question to ask would be "is Nick's scoring consistent with their design?" And the answer to that question is: probably. Nick is just healing a lot when he triggers the LMD refresh. That is probably just as intentional as Immortal Hulk's health behavior, or Phoenix, or lots of other champions with annoying heals.
Part of the point to Battlegrounds is to showcase how different champions behave. Behaviors that might be less valuable in other content can become extremely valuable in certain BG metas. It is in that sense that Nick's behavior, while extreme, is probably consistent with their desire to deliberately showcase weird cornercase champions.
Secondarily, how many champs did you have to go through to find even one line you could argue wasn’t functional text? Rofl.
Literally the first champion I clicked on. Also here is a definition of flavor text for you. May you choose not to die on this hill you're on.
Thanks for proving my point. as per your definition, flavor text are words that don’t have any function. Or don’t describe any function.
Even your example is literally describing how Spider-ham functions.
Flavor text has always been interpreted to be text that evokes beyond mechanics. So when Nick Fury's description says he has an LMD that can be destroyed, but that actually doesn't happen mechanically, that's flavor text. The LMD never reaches zero health. Destroying it does not count as a defeat anywhere - such as in alliance war where attacker and defender defeats have consequences, or in content that requires you to defeat the defender "in one try." Nick Fury basically works the same way as Phoenix does, and yet Nick Fury's description and Phoenix's description clearly evoke completely different behaviors implemented with identical mechanics.
In answer to your question is Nick's scoring behavior intentional, it probably is not, but that's the wrong question. Designers don't explicitly intend every single behavior that emerges from their designs. The more proper question to ask would be "is Nick's scoring consistent with their design?" And the answer to that question is: probably. Nick is just healing a lot when he triggers the LMD refresh. That is probably just as intentional as Immortal Hulk's health behavior, or Phoenix, or lots of other champions with annoying heals.
Part of the point to Battlegrounds is to showcase how different champions behave. Behaviors that might be less valuable in other content can become extremely valuable in certain BG metas. It is in that sense that Nick's behavior, while extreme, is probably consistent with their desire to deliberately showcase weird cornercase champions.
That DOES happen mechanically though. You take him to 1 hp. Remove the LMD, Then he removes his little charge on his portrait. And starts degening. Exposing the real Nick. Is that not happening through game mechanics? are those not the exact mechanics he’s describing in his sig? I’m really not trying to be a nuisance, I’m just trying to understand how my and your comprehension of the exact same words can be so different.
But you’re right, the question should have started as, do they intend for it to stay this way. Regardless, flavor text doesn’t have anything to do with it.
Secondarily, how many champs did you have to go through to find even one line you could argue wasn’t functional text? Rofl.
Literally the first champion I clicked on. Also here is a definition of flavor text for you. May you choose not to die on this hill you're on.
Thanks for proving my point. as per your definition, flavor text are words that don’t have any function. Or don’t describe any function.
Even your example is literally describing how Spider-ham functions.
The only hill I’m on is “is this scoring intended?”. The Flavor text issue came up in this thread and I felt the need to not let y’all go on uninformed. Because someone seemed to think NF sig words weren’t describing what’s happening and are “flavor text”. Which is wholely incorrect
The game does not even see nick fury as we see it. It's just a character model with a skin on top so that players can imagine it to be characters they love. He could look like human torch and still function the exact same way. So yes. It is flavour
Secondarily, how many champs did you have to go through to find even one line you could argue wasn’t functional text? Rofl.
Literally the first champion I clicked on. Also here is a definition of flavor text for you. May you choose not to die on this hill you're on.
Thanks for proving my point. as per your definition, flavor text are words that don’t have any function. Or don’t describe any function.
Even your example is literally describing how Spider-ham functions.
His cartoon nature is literally flavor text to improve the atmosphere of the game. The game doesn't function the way you think it is.
“His cartoonish nature” is what your were talking about when you underlined the whole line of text? Lol. That’s soooo weird. Ok fine. I’ll give you “his cartoonish nature” as flavor text. But I could actually argue those words describe WHY he acts the way he does. Building more nonsense makes him build nonsense faster, owing to his cartoons sh nature. but fine fine. “His cartoonish nature” is flavor text. Because it doesn’t add function, so it must be flavor text.
Again real flavor text is something like on Titania. “Titania is immune to buffs. She doesn’t need your help”
“She doesn’t need your help” is clearly flavor text.
Not gonna get further into the Nick fury debate (is it a debate if there is really only one person on the other side?) further than the following points: - Kabam designated the scores to be on health remaining. Regardless of how it got there. Even though Nick's first phase of health technically gets down to almost zero, the champion isn't KO'ed untill his second phase gets to zero. It's just a unique form of regen that isn't gamebreaking and is a totally valid way to play. - Kabam designated the scores to be on health remaining. Not health lost. - How in the heck would this work? Just banning Nick from BG's because he's good at it? Giving him zero points for health remaining when he goes to his second phase even though he still has health remaining?
The real tragedy is that you didn't automatically reference one of the 'Pools when discussing flavor text.
This is a great example. This has tons of actual flavor text.
Wdym. It clearly shows that the reason WHY pool fast forwards a fight because it is boring
Secondarily, how many champs did you have to go through to find even one line you could argue wasn’t functional text? Rofl.
Literally the first champion I clicked on. Also here is a definition of flavor text for you. May you choose not to die on this hill you're on.
Thanks for proving my point. as per your definition, flavor text are words that don’t have any function. Or don’t describe any function.
Even your example is literally describing how Spider-ham functions.
His cartoon nature is literally flavor text to improve the atmosphere of the game. The game doesn't function the way you think it is.
“His cartoonish nature” is what your were talking about when you underlined the whole line of text? Lol. That’s soooo weird. Ok fine. I’ll give you “his cartoonish nature” as flavor text. But I could actually argue those words describe WHY he acts the way he does. Building more nonsense makes him build nonsense faster, owing to his cartoons sh nature. but fine fine. “His cartoonish nature” is flavor text. Because it doesn’t add function, so it must be flavor text.
Again real flavor text is something like on Titania. “Titania is immune to buffs. She doesn’t need your help”
“She doesn’t need your help” is clearly flavor text.
Not gonna get further into the Nick fury debate (is it a debate if there is really only one person on the other side?) further than the following points: - Kabam designated the scores to be on health remaining. Regardless of how it got there. Even though Nick's first phase of health technically gets down to almost zero, the champion isn't KO'ed untill his second phase gets to zero. It's just a unique form of regen that isn't gamebreaking and is a totally valid way to play. - Kabam designated the scores to be on health remaining. Not health lost. - How in the heck would this work? Just banning Nick from BG's because he's good at it? Giving him zero points for health remaining when he goes to his second phase even though he still has health remaining?
The real tragedy is that you didn't automatically reference one of the 'Pools when discussing flavor text.
This is a great example. This has tons of actual flavor text.
Wdym. It clearly shows that the reason WHY pool fast forwards a fight because it is boring
Touché, so there is no flavor text on him either XD.
Clearly I’m kidding. And I understand your guys points. There IS more flavor text in this game than I realized. But it’s still actually pretty few and far between.
I think maybe my next thread will be “Every line of flavor text in champ kits”.
And then we can endlessly debate what’s functioning text and what isn’t.
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Even your example is literally describing how Spider-ham functions.
Again real flavor text is something like on Titania. “Titania is immune to buffs. She doesn’t need your help”
“She doesn’t need your help” is clearly flavor text.
I literally got confirmation from a dev that I’m not in the wrong. Before I ever made a comment about “flavor text”. All Because I was fully willing to be wrong and take my whippings. But no need. Because I’m not.
The only reason I kept commenting was to possibly help one of y’all understand a little better. There is a lot of text in this game. Very little of it actually doesn’t serve any function. Like 0.1%
Even something that seems silly. Like ultron saying he’s “immune to bleed, poison and slow effects”. Why doesn’t it just say “bleed, poison and slow”? Because ultron isn’t slow immune. He’s immune to the effects of slow. So his evade will still trigger. Which is why it says those words exactly. Very similar to absorbing man not saying he needs to “intercept” he needs to “interrupt” and the distinction is massive.
All this to say, champ kits overall have very few words in them that don’t function. There are some. Sure. But none are in Nicks Kit.
- Kabam designated the scores to be on health remaining. Regardless of how it got there. Even though Nick's first phase of health technically gets down to almost zero, the champion isn't KO'ed untill his second phase gets to zero. It's just a unique form of regen that isn't gamebreaking and is a totally valid way to play.
- Kabam designated the scores to be on health remaining. Not health lost.
- How in the heck would this work? Just banning Nick from BG's because he's good at it? Giving him zero points for health remaining when he goes to his second phase even though he still has health remaining?
The real tragedy is that you didn't automatically reference one of the 'Pools when discussing flavor text.
In answer to your question is Nick's scoring behavior intentional, it probably is not, but that's the wrong question. Designers don't explicitly intend every single behavior that emerges from their designs. The more proper question to ask would be "is Nick's scoring consistent with their design?" And the answer to that question is: probably. Nick is just healing a lot when he triggers the LMD refresh. That is probably just as intentional as Immortal Hulk's health behavior, or Phoenix, or lots of other champions with annoying heals.
Part of the point to Battlegrounds is to showcase how different champions behave. Behaviors that might be less valuable in other content can become extremely valuable in certain BG metas. It is in that sense that Nick's behavior, while extreme, is probably consistent with their desire to deliberately showcase weird cornercase champions.
But you’re right, the question should have started as, do they intend for it to stay this way. Regardless, flavor text doesn’t have anything to do with it.
Clearly I’m kidding. And I understand your guys points. There IS more flavor text in this game than I realized. But it’s still actually pretty few and far between.
I think maybe my next thread will be
“Every line of flavor text in champ kits”.
And then we can endlessly debate what’s functioning text and what isn’t.