BG Season 6 Matchmaking

mgj0630mgj0630 Member Posts: 1,096 ★★★★
Kabam,

You're obviously aware that Season 5 matchmaking has been a hot button issue, cause some of the mods have commented on the numerous threads that have dominated the forums for the past month.

Why then, with your recent post regarding Season 6, 7, and 8 (thank you by the way...the forward look is a nice touch), did you completely ignore the matchmaking topic?

Even if it's to say you aren't changing the algorithm for Season 6, I think it would be beneficial to know, cause much like people want to know about seasons in advance to base rank up decisions, some of us want to know about matchmaking for a similar reason....cause we aren't going to invest in the champs if there's no change to the matchmaking.

Appreciate anything you're willing to share on the topic.
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  • GreekhitGreekhit Member Posts: 2,820 ★★★★★

    Greekhit said:

    All these threads and posts about BGs seem to be ignored at the end.
    Still no changes at VT, whether that is matchmaking, or (even better) victory tokens points or the whole structure of it.
    Disappointing, considering how many people dislike the current state of the mode 🙁

    Yeah, I can't believe they didn't do an overhaul of the mode mid-season.
    I can see the sarcasm there, but we are already two days off season.
    Also implementing some of the ideas that were proposed doesn't require an overhaul.
    A "we are working on changes soon" would help.
    This situation is already going for 1.5 season.
    But i guess it will take around 3 seasons for changes, like happened at AW.


  • GinjabredMonstaGinjabredMonsta Member, Guardian Posts: 6,482 Guardian
    I agree as well, the title is misleading too because while it it changes to BG, it can lead people to think it’s actual changes to the mode and maybe interactions or bug fixes, not just node changes.
  • noclutchnoclutch Member Posts: 186 ★★
    edited March 2023
    I want their comment on matchmaking system before next season begins and say how they are going to go with it. I hope they give a proper reply. Coz I at this point am not even considering BG objectives worth the frustration that it gives.

    On top of that they haven't said anything about zero point bug compensation for last season or fixing it before next season starts. I feel they should acknowledge how this makes majority of the player base feel about participating in BGs.

  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    They're not likely going to comment on the specific process. They've already indicated that it's always changing, and that changes are coming in the future.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★

    They're not likely going to comment on the specific process. They've already indicated that it's always changing, and that changes are coming in the future.

    They also stated that they've done thousands upon thousands of bans in BG to include numerous at end of season, however, videos and spreadsheets have debunked this so it's best to not blindly believe everything they tell you.
    Okay, so conspiracy it is then?
  • ChatterofforumsChatterofforums Member Posts: 1,779 ★★★★★

    They're not likely going to comment on the specific process. They've already indicated that it's always changing, and that changes are coming in the future.

    They also stated that they've done thousands upon thousands of bans in BG to include numerous at end of season, however, videos and spreadsheets have debunked this so it's best to not blindly believe everything they tell you.
    Okay, so conspiracy it is then?
    Not going to say conspiracy at all, but will say lack of transparency/inability to properly handle severe issues plaguing BG.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★

    They're not likely going to comment on the specific process. They've already indicated that it's always changing, and that changes are coming in the future.

    They also stated that they've done thousands upon thousands of bans in BG to include numerous at end of season, however, videos and spreadsheets have debunked this so it's best to not blindly believe everything they tell you.
    Okay, so conspiracy it is then?
    Not going to say conspiracy at all, but will say lack of transparency/inability to properly handle severe issues plaguing BG.
    Spreadsheets and Leaderboards are not evidence of any actions they take. People want a public hanging. It's not going to happen.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    DrZola said:

    They're not likely going to comment on the specific process. They've already indicated that it's always changing, and that changes are coming in the future.

    They also stated that they've done thousands upon thousands of bans in BG to include numerous at end of season, however, videos and spreadsheets have debunked this so it's best to not blindly believe everything they tell you.
    Okay, so conspiracy it is then?
    Not going to say conspiracy at all, but will say lack of transparency/inability to properly handle severe issues plaguing BG.
    Spreadsheets and Leaderboards are not evidence of any actions they take. People want a public hanging. It's not going to happen.
    If you’ve been following, his point isn’t really the stuff of conspiracy. Players made screen shots of the BG leaderboard and their respective rankings just before the BG season ended.

    A few days later they received their official rankings. And found there was zero change from just before the season end and the final rankings. That’s not conjecture, as far as I can tell—that’s actual data that indicates no changes to the top several thousand rankings once the season ended.

    You can make of that what you will. But it’s way more than suggestive of little to no disciplinary action post BG season 5.

    Dr. Zola
    That's conjecture. All we know is they didn't readjust the Rewards and the Leaderboard after. If people are under the impression they're lying about taking action, I have a car I could sell them.
  • GinjabredMonstaGinjabredMonsta Member, Guardian Posts: 6,482 Guardian

    DrZola said:

    They're not likely going to comment on the specific process. They've already indicated that it's always changing, and that changes are coming in the future.

    They also stated that they've done thousands upon thousands of bans in BG to include numerous at end of season, however, videos and spreadsheets have debunked this so it's best to not blindly believe everything they tell you.
    Okay, so conspiracy it is then?
    Not going to say conspiracy at all, but will say lack of transparency/inability to properly handle severe issues plaguing BG.
    Spreadsheets and Leaderboards are not evidence of any actions they take. People want a public hanging. It's not going to happen.
    If you’ve been following, his point isn’t really the stuff of conspiracy. Players made screen shots of the BG leaderboard and their respective rankings just before the BG season ended.

    A few days later they received their official rankings. And found there was zero change from just before the season end and the final rankings. That’s not conjecture, as far as I can tell—that’s actual data that indicates no changes to the top several thousand rankings once the season ended.

    You can make of that what you will. But it’s way more than suggestive of little to no disciplinary action post BG season 5.

    Dr. Zola
    That's conjecture. All we know is they didn't readjust the Rewards and the Leaderboard after. If people are under the impression they're lying about taking action, I have a car I could sell them.
    Technically, both the people who think changes happened and that they didn’t could be called conjuncture unless an official statement comes out
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★

    DrZola said:

    They're not likely going to comment on the specific process. They've already indicated that it's always changing, and that changes are coming in the future.

    They also stated that they've done thousands upon thousands of bans in BG to include numerous at end of season, however, videos and spreadsheets have debunked this so it's best to not blindly believe everything they tell you.
    Okay, so conspiracy it is then?
    Not going to say conspiracy at all, but will say lack of transparency/inability to properly handle severe issues plaguing BG.
    Spreadsheets and Leaderboards are not evidence of any actions they take. People want a public hanging. It's not going to happen.
    If you’ve been following, his point isn’t really the stuff of conspiracy. Players made screen shots of the BG leaderboard and their respective rankings just before the BG season ended.

    A few days later they received their official rankings. And found there was zero change from just before the season end and the final rankings. That’s not conjecture, as far as I can tell—that’s actual data that indicates no changes to the top several thousand rankings once the season ended.

    You can make of that what you will. But it’s way more than suggestive of little to no disciplinary action post BG season 5.

    Dr. Zola
    That's conjecture. All we know is they didn't readjust the Rewards and the Leaderboard after. If people are under the impression they're lying about taking action, I have a car I could sell them.
    Technically, both the people who think changes happened and that they didn’t could be called conjuncture unless an official statement comes out
    No, it's not conjecture when it's based on their repeated statements about taking action both during and after the Season.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    This comes up EVERY Season. I'm not feeding into the assumptions and accusations. People are either going to believe them when they say they take action, or they're not.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    DrZola said:

    DrZola said:

    They're not likely going to comment on the specific process. They've already indicated that it's always changing, and that changes are coming in the future.

    They also stated that they've done thousands upon thousands of bans in BG to include numerous at end of season, however, videos and spreadsheets have debunked this so it's best to not blindly believe everything they tell you.
    Okay, so conspiracy it is then?
    Not going to say conspiracy at all, but will say lack of transparency/inability to properly handle severe issues plaguing BG.
    Spreadsheets and Leaderboards are not evidence of any actions they take. People want a public hanging. It's not going to happen.
    If you’ve been following, his point isn’t really the stuff of conspiracy. Players made screen shots of the BG leaderboard and their respective rankings just before the BG season ended.

    A few days later they received their official rankings. And found there was zero change from just before the season end and the final rankings. That’s not conjecture, as far as I can tell—that’s actual data that indicates no changes to the top several thousand rankings once the season ended.

    You can make of that what you will. But it’s way more than suggestive of little to no disciplinary action post BG season 5.

    Dr. Zola
    That's conjecture. All we know is they didn't readjust the Rewards and the Leaderboard after. If people are under the impression they're lying about taking action, I have a car I could sell them.
    So what is your explanation for rankings not changing after season end?

    Dr. Zola
    It's happened before. They took action and made no changes to the board.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    FiiNCH said:

    DrZola said:

    DrZola said:

    They're not likely going to comment on the specific process. They've already indicated that it's always changing, and that changes are coming in the future.

    They also stated that they've done thousands upon thousands of bans in BG to include numerous at end of season, however, videos and spreadsheets have debunked this so it's best to not blindly believe everything they tell you.
    Okay, so conspiracy it is then?
    Not going to say conspiracy at all, but will say lack of transparency/inability to properly handle severe issues plaguing BG.
    Spreadsheets and Leaderboards are not evidence of any actions they take. People want a public hanging. It's not going to happen.
    If you’ve been following, his point isn’t really the stuff of conspiracy. Players made screen shots of the BG leaderboard and their respective rankings just before the BG season ended.

    A few days later they received their official rankings. And found there was zero change from just before the season end and the final rankings. That’s not conjecture, as far as I can tell—that’s actual data that indicates no changes to the top several thousand rankings once the season ended.

    You can make of that what you will. But it’s way more than suggestive of little to no disciplinary action post BG season 5.

    Dr. Zola
    That's conjecture. All we know is they didn't readjust the Rewards and the Leaderboard after. If people are under the impression they're lying about taking action, I have a car I could sell them.
    So what is your explanation for rankings not changing after season end?

    Dr. Zola
    It's happened before. They took action and made no changes to the board.
    So you’re saying they kept some people from getting the rewards of a higher bracket placement, which they rightfully deserve. And you’re arguing against this? take a break.
    I'm not arguing against anything. I'm explaining what logically makes sense. As opposed to accusing them of lying about it, or some other implication.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    What the hell am I defending? I'm looking at it logically without assuming anything. I never said anything was right or wrong, or justified. I'm just not jumping to conclusions. Honestly, these Witch Hunts are not helping anything.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    DrZola said:

    FiiNCH said:

    DrZola said:

    DrZola said:

    They're not likely going to comment on the specific process. They've already indicated that it's always changing, and that changes are coming in the future.

    They also stated that they've done thousands upon thousands of bans in BG to include numerous at end of season, however, videos and spreadsheets have debunked this so it's best to not blindly believe everything they tell you.
    Okay, so conspiracy it is then?
    Not going to say conspiracy at all, but will say lack of transparency/inability to properly handle severe issues plaguing BG.
    Spreadsheets and Leaderboards are not evidence of any actions they take. People want a public hanging. It's not going to happen.
    If you’ve been following, his point isn’t really the stuff of conspiracy. Players made screen shots of the BG leaderboard and their respective rankings just before the BG season ended.

    A few days later they received their official rankings. And found there was zero change from just before the season end and the final rankings. That’s not conjecture, as far as I can tell—that’s actual data that indicates no changes to the top several thousand rankings once the season ended.

    You can make of that what you will. But it’s way more than suggestive of little to no disciplinary action post BG season 5.

    Dr. Zola
    That's conjecture. All we know is they didn't readjust the Rewards and the Leaderboard after. If people are under the impression they're lying about taking action, I have a car I could sell them.
    So what is your explanation for rankings not changing after season end?

    Dr. Zola
    It's happened before. They took action and made no changes to the board.
    So you’re saying they kept some people from getting the rewards of a higher bracket placement, which they rightfully deserve. And you’re arguing against this? take a break.
    I'm not arguing against anything. I'm explaining what logically makes sense. As opposed to accusing them of lying about it, or some other implication.
    Stop. That’s strawmanning, and you really should quit ascribing the worst motives (bitterness, entitlement, envy, witch hunts just to name a few) to forums members who disagree with you. Asking questions about corrections after season end doesn’t rise to the level of accusations of lying.

    There was a rank order prior to season end. That rank order remained the same in final rankings. If people who ranked in the top few thousand were penalized for violating ToS after season end, it is a perfectly legitimate question to ask why final rankings remained the same.

    Perhaps there’s a different type of penalty rationale (although I can’t think of one) that would allow players to retain their rank but lose rewards and/or face a ban. If so, the team should come forth and fill in the gaps.

    Dr. Zola
    Had it been asked, I would have said nothing. The problem is people go from 0 to assumption without even inquiring.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    Also fueled in part by YouTube conspiracy theories.
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