It's that time of year - Banquet and Accolade Events are here!

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  • FreakydFreakyd Member Posts: 208
    I would happily sell all my t2a and t5b for 300 units each. They have not taken into account the different stores increases over the year. Look what you get for £20 no rng in the paragon catalyst bundle(1.5 t6b + 1.5 t6a +2xt5b + t5cs) compared to £20 of units(550). They know the economy has changed, especially for paragon and above because they are selling it in store using the new economy. I think the response is really disingenuous.
  • JefechutaJefechuta Member Posts: 1,212 ★★★★
    xLunatiXx said:

    Jefechuta said:

    @Kabam Miike EDIT: Right is left, left is right, damn, its 2 AM here

    Since its kinda meh to write it, I just edited some of the fixes I think would be appropiate without destroying the economy of the game:


    First of all, the Greater Banquet Crystals:



    Right side is the current one, left side is my change

    I dont think at the current state of the game, we should have 2 6* Sig Stone prizes, so I changed it so we only have the generic ones only.

    Buffed the 7* Shards a little bit, since I dont know the chances still, guessing those are above the lower % ones, I think those buffs are kinda fair, both basic and Titan shards.

    We had also 2 prizes for T5 basic, the lowest one was removed.

    No more changes here.



    Also changed the ISO rewards inside the GBC, the first amounts are the current ones, the last amounts are the ones I would wish for, the ones in the middle are the fair ones.

    Now, the Solo Milestones:



    Right side is the current one, left side is my change

    Removed the T2 Alpha rewards and lowered one Tier the points overall.

    6* Awakening Gem reduced to one, and lowered the points till put it right after the Deathless piece.

    T5 Basic Cats removed.

    5-Star relic turned into Nexus.

    T5 CC, T3 Alpha and T6 Basic buffed from 1 to 3.

    6-Star Relic turned into Nexus. ( I dont think its that gamebreaking to make it Nexus)

    T6 Class Catalyst Selector points lowered.

    6* Rank Up Crystal 4 to 5 added.

    Titan Shards added.


    I think those changes are fair enough without being gamebreaking.


    And finally the alliance milestones:




    Right side is the current one, left side is my change

    T2 Alpha and T5 Basic removed and T3 and T6 added instead, one of each.

    Tier 1 Primordial Dust removed .

    6* Shards points lowered into the T1 Dust place.

    6* Rank Up Gem 3 to 4 added.

    T3 Alpha frags removed, T6 Class 50% Crystal added instead.

    T6 Basic Frags removed, 7* Shards added instead; 2500 (I dont think its too much, can be lowered but I think this is fair enough)

    Now, I think this changes are enough to fix the players negative feedback, but the ranked rewards need also need several tweaks, rewards from 601-2600 to 100% should be looken into, in this case Ill just write it down instead of make a comparison table:

    Minimum 6 Rank up Gems should be 3 to 4, remove the lower ones.

    7* Shards should be buffed, how come top 601 spender only gets 2.500 Titan shards, I dont think thats fair at all, same with the basic ones.

    We need more Relic Nexuses for top rewards.

    6* Crystals, nexus or not, should be class at least for higher ranks.


    And some buffs in calendar rewards from Dec 21 to Jan 3:

    Turn 2k 4*Shards into 10k 5* Shards.

    Turn 5k 5*Shards into 5k 6*Shards, both days

    Turn 4k 6*Shards into 2.5k 7* Shards.



    Those would be the changes overall, I think most of them are fair enough for both the players and the company, I dont know if you guys have enough time to change them or not, but I think it would be very nice to give an additional "compensation" or "gift" package with the rewards I changed above for the players that would have reached that rewards.

    I hope this at least helps for the next event if you cant fix this one before it starts.



    Thank you for making this.

    One thing I'd like to add about your last sentence, I hope they don't take this literally and use those rewards for next year cause they will be out of touch once again. Being one year behind on the meta just like they are one year behind this year.
    Yeah ofc, I was meaning that I hope next year take into account what resources should be given for the amount of units spent and the actual economy of that year, my comparison is only useful for this current year, I hope Kabam fams read the post and maybe try to do something before it starts
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  • Rugged_BruteRugged_Brute Member Posts: 5
    I think they really dropped the ball on the banquet event this year. I don’t think people are expecting to get 100 7*s or r3 and or r4 7*s, however the rank up materials and lack there of, is what upsets people. The game economy changed, a paragon or a valiant player seeing t5b or t2a, looks at it and it’s essentially worthless. I feel you should be able to r2 one or 2 7*s or even max out a few 6*s. Open up 4 or so 7*s and maybe if we’re feeling jolly, a titan crystal 😱. I don’t think there is any lore for people unless you drop $100k on the game. It’s a missed opportunity this year. I usually participate and I’m not saying my participation will greatly affect the game, it’s just disheartening to see especially during December and the holidays where in theory it’s usually the best month of the year to play MCOC. Some stuff is ok, most of it is lacking greatly though.
  • Lordtellox9Lordtellox9 Member Posts: 23
    It is strange that we all say the same thing in regards to rewards are literally thronebreaker material the crystals are a gamble and if u don’t grind arena for units then u spending money honestly. The best retaliation would be to not spend money on banquet i don’t mind that u simplify why numbers got merged and u added more rewards to milestone. Great happy for marketing team the rewards on the ggc are the problem the drop rate is the problem I spend 300 units and get a t2 alpha when I’m overstocked on it I would be upset. Here a suggestion maybe if maybe make ggc selector that contains either rank material or crystal material and have both keep sig stones and what not idk and idc. @Kabam Miike i get making content is a long process and if they cannot fix it this year can they please not repeat the same stuff next year 7 stars are not gonna ask for 8 stars next year that wouldn’t make sense because u slowed down on the rank up material and there is still a limited amount of 7 star champions available but there are people that are trying to dup 7 stars or add more to their roster so they can get the limited 7 star titan shards. Solo rewards are meh also because f2p -dolphins are not really getting anything worth while people better off completing their necropolis run before janurary 15th atleast your guarantee a 7 star and rank up gem
  • GFactorGFactor Member Posts: 21
    edited December 2023

    Hey guys, I see lots of feedback, and have been thinking about what to respond with. Honestly, I don't know if there is anything to respond with, and I don't think there's anything I can say that will change opinions here.

    This event is something people look forward to, and it's something that we strive to deliver on. This year, we made improvements in every way possible, so your direct feedback with actual actionable items would be appreciated to help me understand.

    We reduced the number of points available for opening each Greater Gifting Crystal, but also reduced the points needed to hit that same milestone last year. Last year, there was 15 Solo Event milestones, with the top reward being a 5-Star Relic at 100,000 points. Buy and opening 25 crystals got you that Milestone. This year, the 15th Milestone is at 75,600 points and is a 6-Star Abyss Nexus Crystal. To get there, you would need to buy and open 28 GBCs. Yes, that is 3 more than before, but it's also arguably a better reward than the Relic Crystal.

    There are also 5 additional Milestones available, and while I get that people are looking at last year's as "I got everything for 25 Crystals", that's not really a fair way to look at this. We extended the runway, added more Milestones for those that want to complete it, and took nothing away from those who don't want to go any further than what they did last time.

    The Alliance event also has one additional Milestone, but to hit the 15th Milestone, it requires fewer crystals from across the whole Alliance than it did to hit the 15th (and final) Milestone of last year. We added one more Milestone this year for those that want to go for it. I think people are looking at those rewards tables as 100% vs 100%, not as the number of milestones, which is how they really should be looked at.

    Additionally, these Crystals have better rewards than the last year's crystals.

    Of course, we can't compare last year's event to this one directly; there's been a lot of changes in the Game, with the addition of 7 Stars, Ascension, and higher ranks, but that doesn't mean that we are going to go crazy with all of those materials. There are a lot of comments on wanting more 7-Star Shards or Rank 3 Materials (we were explicit with where you can expect to get the first available R3 7-Stars), and while I understand where you're coming from, nobody wants to live in a world where we burn through 7-Stars in a year and need to introduce 8-Stars in 2024. There will always be taps that are opened slowly, otherwise we end up burning through content and that's not good for the game.

    I appreciate all of your feedback, but if you have something a bit more actionable or precise as to why you're upset, I would love to take that to the team for future consideration. I want to understand, so we can improve for the future.

    Point to take to the team, these events become redundant if rewards you can get elsewhere in the game look more attractive than what you get from the event! Paragon gauntlet, Necropolis and even the glory and battle grounds store! Investing in progression also looks more attractive as you don’t only get the completion, in path and exploration rewards, you also unlock other game content mentioned above that give better rewards.

    I get that there are people who had progressed and you needed to give them content to work on, but I think this is the point where you guys really need to put your thinking caps on, because you’re right in saying you can’t just flood the game with certain items, that would be suicidal. But I feel there needs to be that balance between rewards from in game content and what you get from these events. This year I hate to say it but there was a bit of a party foul ito what you released and how easy it was to then progress. You need to go back to the table, hint hint, remember how long it took to get and rank up 4* then 5* to max, I think the same should have been the case for 6*. It should have taken a bit longer to just get as many 6* let alone rank them up to R3 and 4!
  • DetweilerDetweiler Member Posts: 1
    I saved a year, waiting for the event to find a "sprinkling" of what I need and more of what I needed last year. For banquet the rewards just seem to be more geared to when I was pushing thronebreaker, no big though only thing is I'll just readjust how many units I intended to pump into the event and wait for July 4th and cyber weekend next year.
  • CdjcdkjCdjcdkj Member Posts: 85
    So @Kabam Miike you want to make less money this banquet from what you guys are saying because more people are going to say eh it isn't worth it
  • JefechutaJefechuta Member Posts: 1,212 ★★★★

    The calls to remove items like T2A and t5b are forgetting that the event is open to level 40 summoners. The whole thing should be progression based.

    Thats why there are still those on the Crystals
  • HyperrrrHyperrrr Member Posts: 6
    The banquet is suitable for player thronebreaker and below, for end content players it's a easy skip it's better to invest in necropolis,
    The same issue than all previous years but it's became more problematic, they give the same crystal and milestone for all, and the idea of end content players just need to spent more unit and go throught useless rewards that's bad
    It's more profitable to build loyalty towards newer player and they don't hide it.
    Well for me it's a win, they push me to became free to play, thank you kabam,
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  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 7,584 ★★★★★
    Warlockjr said:

    ahmynuts said:

    I have compiled a short list of actionable items that all could realistically be done within a day/enough time before the event starts. As it stands now the valiant daily crystals are more rewarding than the gbcs and we get 2 a day for FREE. No one is asking for more r3s in this event so i don't know why this point keeps being raised as a counter to our complaints like it matters.

    - Unit cost reduced to 200
    - Remove t5b and t2a
    - Lock the event behind progression
    - Increase t6b and t3a
    - Increase 7-star shards to 1500 or 3000 (could trade off t4a)
    - Improve the alliance event rewards, 1/4 of t6b and t3a is laughable
    - Everything Jefechuta outlined in his post
    - Remove the 6-star awakening gems in the milestones and replace with rank gems
    - Add ascension mats and titan shards to upper levels of solo milestones
    - Restore points for consumable purchases
    - Increase r2 mats
    - Change the abyss Nexus to a 7star crystal (it’s just iso for many players)
    - Change a 6-star awakening gem to a max sig gem
    - Increase the quantity of 6-star shards if they need to stay
    - Overhaul the milestone rewards because they are essentially a copy-paste from last year
    - Change the rank rewards for anyone not blowing their life savings because they are laughable

    There are probably many more but I'm busy today and don't have time to do more

    As much as i agree with this, your in jail lol so I definitely do not think they will listen to you.
    I mean. If even a prisoner can do this im sure Kabam can too
  • WarlockjrWarlockjr Member Posts: 809 ★★★
    ahmynuts said:

    Warlockjr said:

    ahmynuts said:

    I have compiled a short list of actionable items that all could realistically be done within a day/enough time before the event starts. As it stands now the valiant daily crystals are more rewarding than the gbcs and we get 2 a day for FREE. No one is asking for more r3s in this event so i don't know why this point keeps being raised as a counter to our complaints like it matters.

    - Unit cost reduced to 200
    - Remove t5b and t2a
    - Lock the event behind progression
    - Increase t6b and t3a
    - Increase 7-star shards to 1500 or 3000 (could trade off t4a)
    - Improve the alliance event rewards, 1/4 of t6b and t3a is laughable
    - Everything Jefechuta outlined in his post
    - Remove the 6-star awakening gems in the milestones and replace with rank gems
    - Add ascension mats and titan shards to upper levels of solo milestones
    - Restore points for consumable purchases
    - Increase r2 mats
    - Change the abyss Nexus to a 7star crystal (it’s just iso for many players)
    - Change a 6-star awakening gem to a max sig gem
    - Increase the quantity of 6-star shards if they need to stay
    - Overhaul the milestone rewards because they are essentially a copy-paste from last year
    - Change the rank rewards for anyone not blowing their life savings because they are laughable

    There are probably many more but I'm busy today and don't have time to do more

    As much as i agree with this, your in jail lol so I definitely do not think they will listen to you.
    I mean. If even a prisoner can do this im sure Kabam can too
    Im not saying you cant because they dont listen to me either
  • MidnightfoxMidnightfox Member Posts: 1,283 ★★★
    I think this banquet event if it stays as is will be a good f2p event it looks like.
  • FubbieFubbie Member Posts: 142

    Hey guys, I see lots of feedback, and have been thinking about what to respond with. Honestly, I don't know if there is anything to respond with, and I don't think there's anything I can say that will change opinions here.

    This event is something people look forward to, and it's something that we strive to deliver on. This year, we made improvements in every way possible, so your direct feedback with actual actionable items would be appreciated to help me understand.

    We reduced the number of points available for opening each Greater Gifting Crystal, but also reduced the points needed to hit that same milestone last year. Last year, there was 15 Solo Event milestones, with the top reward being a 5-Star Relic at 100,000 points. Buy and opening 25 crystals got you that Milestone. This year, the 15th Milestone is at 75,600 points and is a 6-Star Abyss Nexus Crystal. To get there, you would need to buy and open 28 GBCs. Yes, that is 3 more than before, but it's also arguably a better reward than the Relic Crystal.

    There are also 5 additional Milestones available, and while I get that people are looking at last year's as "I got everything for 25 Crystals", that's not really a fair way to look at this. We extended the runway, added more Milestones for those that want to complete it, and took nothing away from those who don't want to go any further than what they did last time.

    The Alliance event also has one additional Milestone, but to hit the 15th Milestone, it requires fewer crystals from across the whole Alliance than it did to hit the 15th (and final) Milestone of last year. We added one more Milestone this year for those that want to go for it. I think people are looking at those rewards tables as 100% vs 100%, not as the number of milestones, which is how they really should be looked at.

    Additionally, these Crystals have better rewards than the last year's crystals.

    Of course, we can't compare last year's event to this one directly; there's been a lot of changes in the Game, with the addition of 7 Stars, Ascension, and higher ranks, but that doesn't mean that we are going to go crazy with all of those materials. There are a lot of comments on wanting more 7-Star Shards or Rank 3 Materials (we were explicit with where you can expect to get the first available R3 7-Stars), and while I understand where you're coming from, nobody wants to live in a world where we burn through 7-Stars in a year and need to introduce 8-Stars in 2024. There will always be taps that are opened slowly, otherwise we end up burning through content and that's not good for the game.

    I appreciate all of your feedback, but if you have something a bit more actionable or precise as to why you're upset, I would love to take that to the team for future consideration. I want to understand, so we can improve for the future.

    Mike, KT1 and Rich both put out videos about the inflation of items, and the devaluing of items year to year, as opposed to the locked in unit worth of items and GBC. In a year where 7 stars, and all the materials needed to rank them, entered the game, along with necropolis, the value of all things 6 star took a huge dip in value. You don't need to throw in r3 7 star gems, but the materials offered need to be better than what there is now. Especially when similar materials are available in incursions and BG store. The value is simply not there this year, especially with all the added in-game elements that make last year's big GBC rewards less valuable by a considerable margin.

  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,377 ★★★★
    Was the cutoff Lvl 40 last year? Curious as I know people who have accounts that are LVL 28 and 29 who are Conquerors and wondering this as well.
  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 5,284 ★★★★★

    Was the cutoff Lvl 40 last year? Curious as I know people who have accounts that are LVL 28 and 29 who are Conquerors and wondering this as well.

    Yes it was.
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