Angry about missing Mastery points? Here's why you should be

Hi summoners,

I've been pondering the missing mastery points situation for a while now, and many of us having been down 4 points for about 6 months, this has put our accounts at a disadvantage relative to our competitors when it comes to PvP game modes.

The difference this has made cannot be overstated and I believe compensation should be hefty, as every day where we are being denied the points we are due, we continue to operate at a disadvantage.

Kabam have proven that that don't really care about this issue and would rather cater for the big spending endgame players, in what I believe to be a last ditch effort to line their pockets before the game starts trending sharply downhill.

What do you think about it? Salty pessimism or a realistic outlook on the situation?

Comments

Go_To

This is a bit dramatic.
Yes, kabam should have and needs to put these back in the game. Also yes, it is causing a major disadvantage to players who don't have them.
No, compensation should not be hefty, what would you even want for it?
No, the game is not going to start trending downhill because of this.
And no, this has nothing to do with money, they aren't selling them for 1000 units in the store

Wong_98

You had years to explore act 4, but you’re just now complaining about not having the points?

Squirrelguy

I literally wasn't even aware of this problem. Is this supposed to be about some missing mastery points in Act 4?

I'll also add that while there are masteries that can make a difference in your game, 4 total extra (even to those who had all masteries unlocked) doesn't necessarily allow for as much of a change as you would think. It's not like those would allow you to unlock LC/DE if you couldn't already have points there, and then if you could, you would just simply forego points in your least vital other mastery because you are a rational being who should be able to decide what is least important and thus not value it.

Eg. it seems like a big deal if you think if it as "what if I were missing the 4 most important mastery points I could have?" But in reality, nobody would build a setup like that and you can always just invest less in the least important ones. Even if you want to unlock LC/DE and have a minimum input, you should be able to take those losses in another section.

If you don't have the maximum number of masteries (other than the apparently missing ones), then you should be more focused on completing the requisite content to receive those and not on the perceived slight that you have been shown in missing them. After Dex and Parry, none of the masteries are really game-changing, just kinda nice to have.

TLDR: Sure, it may be annoying, but should clearly not register on the emotional level of "anger".

Demonzfyre

Hi summoners,

I've been pondering the missing mastery points situation for a while now, and many of us having been down 4 points for about 6 months, this has put our accounts at a disadvantage relative to our competitors when it comes to PvP game modes.

The difference this has made cannot be overstated and I believe compensation should be hefty, as every day where we are being denied the points we are due, we continue to operate at a disadvantage.

Kabam have proven that that don't really care about this issue and would rather cater for the big spending endgame players, in what I believe to be a last ditch effort to line their pockets before the game starts trending sharply downhill.

What do you think about it? Salty pessimism or a realistic outlook on the situation?

I'm pretty confused... Which 4 mastery points would have helped you not have such a gigantic disadvantage?

There are enough points you can use in the trees to give you the masteries you want. If you're just beating act 4 or 5, you're not at a point in the game where masteries would impact you.

I would love to hear a more detailed explanation of how this has impacted your account so drastically.

Kabam historically waits until issues are resolved before handing out any sort of compensation as well.

laserjohn26

You had 8 or so years.

MrSakuragi

This is a bit dramatic.
Yes, kabam should have and needs to put these back in the game. Also yes, it is causing a major disadvantage to players who don't have them.
No, compensation should not be hefty, what would you even want for it?
No, the game is not going to start trending downhill because of this.
And no, this has nothing to do with money, they aren't selling them for 1000 units in the store

It is a major disadvantage for those that are missing the mastery points. It needs to be done right, however, or you’re still at a disadvantage if they get sent to everyone, including people who are already at 59 or 60 mastery points.

laserjohn26

You had 8 or so years.

I would like to apologize. Especially to the disagrees. I was wrong. 4.4 came out in Feb 2016. So if you subtract the months since act 4 was updated late last year it clearly wasn't 8 years. We will just call it 7 years. Please accept my apology for incorrectly saying you are complaining about something you had 8 years to do when it was closer to 7 years.

Toproller89

You had years to explore act 4, but you’re just now complaining about not having the points?

How did I have years to explore Act 4 when I started playing 6 months ago? I'm not following you.

BringPopcorn

You had years to explore act 4, but you’re just now complaining about not having the points?
How did I have years to explore Act 4 when I started playing 6 months ago? I'm not following you.

You started playing 6 months ago and you can predict a downhill in a mobile game that has been around for 9 years....

arifin74

I have started 6 months ago, I become paragon 3 days ago. Dont even have cores to use those masteries. How are planning to use those masteries and why do feel its "major" disadvantage?

Toproller89

This is a bit dramatic.
Yes, kabam should have and needs to put these back in the game. Also yes, it is causing a major disadvantage to players who don't have them.
No, compensation should not be hefty, what would you even want for it?
No, the game is not going to start trending downhill because of this.
And no, this has nothing to do with money, they aren't selling them for 1000 units in the store

Compensation should be some units to make up for matches lost in battlegrounds and AW, and for not having those points which should have been there from when we explored act 4.

I did not explicitly state that this is the reason why the game would trend downhill, thats more of a trickle down effect of MCU movies being less popular In recent years, and game modes such as Raids that have epically flopped.

My comment regarding catering to the big spending endgame gigalodons of the community was an allusion to Kabam's choice of creating game modes such as Necropolis and Raids, while big issues such as an incredibly inconsistent AI, and these missing mastery points go unfixed.

Not a fan of the straw man, I hope that this clears things up for you.

BringPopcorn

This is a bit dramatic.
Yes, kabam should have and needs to put these back in the game. Also yes, it is causing a major disadvantage to players who don't have them.
No, compensation should not be hefty, what would you even want for it?
No, the game is not going to start trending downhill because of this.
And no, this has nothing to do with money, they aren't selling them for 1000 units in the store
Compensation should be some units to make up for matches lost in battlegrounds and AW, and for not having those points which should have been there from when we explored act 4.

I did not explicitly state that this is the reason why the game would trend downhill, thats more of a trickle down effect of MCU movies being less popular In recent years, and game modes such as Raids that have epically flopped.

My comment regarding catering to the big spending endgame gigalodons of the community was an allusion to Kabam's choice of creating game modes such as Necropolis and Raids, while big issues such as an incredibly inconsistent AI, and these missing mastery points go unfixed.

Not a fan of the straw man, I hope that this clears things up for you.

Yeah new F2P players that started 6 months ago quitting will probably be the downfall of a pro profit company.
All those F2P profits gone.. what are they going to do!!!
Punchline: F2P wants to be compensated units for losing matches they played with free energy or free elder marks.

Toproller89

I have started 6 months ago, I become paragon 3 days ago. Dont even have cores to use those masteries. How are planning to use those masteries and why do feel its "major" disadvantage?

I'm glad you asked.

I'd like to run full suicides and max willpower and still have enough points to max out stupefy, pacify and petrify as well as recovery.

Right now I am short of that by no less than 4 mastery points, would you believe it?

Toproller89

This is a bit dramatic.
Yes, kabam should have and needs to put these back in the game. Also yes, it is causing a major disadvantage to players who don't have them.
No, compensation should not be hefty, what would you even want for it?
No, the game is not going to start trending downhill because of this.
And no, this has nothing to do with money, they aren't selling them for 1000 units in the store
Compensation should be some units to make up for matches lost in battlegrounds and AW, and for not having those points which should have been there from when we explored act 4.

I did not explicitly state that this is the reason why the game would trend downhill, thats more of a trickle down effect of MCU movies being less popular In recent years, and game modes such as Raids that have epically flopped.

My comment regarding catering to the big spending endgame gigalodons of the community was an allusion to Kabam's choice of creating game modes such as Necropolis and Raids, while big issues such as an incredibly inconsistent AI, and these missing mastery points go unfixed.

Not a fan of the straw man, I hope that this clears things up for you.
Yeah new F2P players that started 6 months ago quitting will probably be the downfall of a pro profit company.
All those F2P profits gone.. what are they going to do!!!
Punchline: F2P wants to be compensated units for losing matches they played with free energy or free elder marks.

I am not F2P, please try again before making an assumption.

BringPopcorn

This is a bit dramatic.
Yes, kabam should have and needs to put these back in the game. Also yes, it is causing a major disadvantage to players who don't have them.
No, compensation should not be hefty, what would you even want for it?
No, the game is not going to start trending downhill because of this.
And no, this has nothing to do with money, they aren't selling them for 1000 units in the store
Compensation should be some units to make up for matches lost in battlegrounds and AW, and for not having those points which should have been there from when we explored act 4.

I did not explicitly state that this is the reason why the game would trend downhill, thats more of a trickle down effect of MCU movies being less popular In recent years, and game modes such as Raids that have epically flopped.

My comment regarding catering to the big spending endgame gigalodons of the community was an allusion to Kabam's choice of creating game modes such as Necropolis and Raids, while big issues such as an incredibly inconsistent AI, and these missing mastery points go unfixed.

Not a fan of the straw man, I hope that this clears things up for you.
Yeah new F2P players that started 6 months ago quitting will probably be the downfall of a pro profit company.
All those F2P profits gone.. what are they going to do!!!
Punchline: F2P wants to be compensated units for losing matches they played with free energy or free elder marks.
I am not F2P, please try again before making an assumption.

Sorry I made a mistake with the part where you said "Cater big spending players"... Well they won't go out of business because you don't spend, since you are not a big spender...

Toproller89

This is a bit dramatic.
Yes, kabam should have and needs to put these back in the game. Also yes, it is causing a major disadvantage to players who don't have them.
No, compensation should not be hefty, what would you even want for it?
No, the game is not going to start trending downhill because of this.
And no, this has nothing to do with money, they aren't selling them for 1000 units in the store
Compensation should be some units to make up for matches lost in battlegrounds and AW, and for not having those points which should have been there from when we explored act 4.

I did not explicitly state that this is the reason why the game would trend downhill, thats more of a trickle down effect of MCU movies being less popular In recent years, and game modes such as Raids that have epically flopped.

My comment regarding catering to the big spending endgame gigalodons of the community was an allusion to Kabam's choice of creating game modes such as Necropolis and Raids, while big issues such as an incredibly inconsistent AI, and these missing mastery points go unfixed.

Not a fan of the straw man, I hope that this clears things up for you.
Yeah new F2P players that started 6 months ago quitting will probably be the downfall of a pro profit company.
All those F2P profits gone.. what are they going to do!!!
Punchline: F2P wants to be compensated units for losing matches they played with free energy or free elder marks.
I am not F2P, please try again before making an assumption.
Sorry I made a mistake with the part where you said "Cater big spending players"... Well they won't go out of business because you don't spend, since you are not a big spender...

Time will tell where this game is going, I hope I'm wrong.

But I want my mastery points all the same, the communication on the whole debacle has been lacking.

I can understand why players who explored act 4 years ago couldn't care less, and that's fair enough.

BringPopcorn

This is a bit dramatic.
Yes, kabam should have and needs to put these back in the game. Also yes, it is causing a major disadvantage to players who don't have them.
No, compensation should not be hefty, what would you even want for it?
No, the game is not going to start trending downhill because of this.
And no, this has nothing to do with money, they aren't selling them for 1000 units in the store
Compensation should be some units to make up for matches lost in battlegrounds and AW, and for not having those points which should have been there from when we explored act 4.

I did not explicitly state that this is the reason why the game would trend downhill, thats more of a trickle down effect of MCU movies being less popular In recent years, and game modes such as Raids that have epically flopped.

My comment regarding catering to the big spending endgame gigalodons of the community was an allusion to Kabam's choice of creating game modes such as Necropolis and Raids, while big issues such as an incredibly inconsistent AI, and these missing mastery points go unfixed.

Not a fan of the straw man, I hope that this clears things up for you.
Yeah new F2P players that started 6 months ago quitting will probably be the downfall of a pro profit company.
All those F2P profits gone.. what are they going to do!!!
Punchline: F2P wants to be compensated units for losing matches they played with free energy or free elder marks.
I am not F2P, please try again before making an assumption.
Sorry I made a mistake with the part where you said "Cater big spending players"... Well they won't go out of business because you don't spend, since you are not a big spender...
Time will tell where this game is going, I hope I'm wrong.

But I want my mastery points all the same, the communication on the whole debacle has been lacking.

I can understand why players who explored act 4 years ago couldn't care less, and that's fair enough.

Lol if the game goes out its a mere coincidence, you have only been playing 6 months and you think 4 mastery points is the reason you lose in BGs...
The game has been going for 9 years, if it goes down is not because of a prediction of someone who played for 6 months...

Pikolu

OP, protip: Community has said game has been on a downhill trend for basically its whole existence. If 12.0 couldn't kill the game, then the only thing that would is if stuff stopped coming out and kabam closed it down.

GalactikDonut

But I want my mastery points all the same, the communication on the whole debacle has been lacking.

there really isn’t much to communicate until they’ve fixed it. the last time they commented on the issue they said that until they say something else assume they are continuing to work on the problem. we don’t need a monthly update of them telling us they’re still working on it

captain_rogers

If the points were so important, why won't you get it by exploring act 4 6 months ago?
Either you started the game in the last 6 months, in that case you had no issue with the mastery point missing, or you felt it was unimportant until it was taken away .

Lokx

I can tell you right now those 4 points are not the reason your doing bad in bg.

Graves_3

Inability to claim 4 mastery points due to a bug for over 6 months is a legitimate issue. Granted OP got caught up in emotions and wrote things such as big spenders, game dies and things like that but I think the devs do need to fix this issue as a priority. Having 4 additional mastery points does help a lot and anyone saying otherwise is just arguing for the sake of arguing.

Toproller89

Inability to claim 4 mastery points due to a bug for over 6 months is a legitimate issue. Granted OP got caught up in emotions and wrote things such as big spenders, game dies and things like that but I think the devs do need to fix this issue as a priority. Having 4 additional mastery points does help a lot and anyone saying otherwise is just arguing for the sake of arguing.

I think you nailed it with this comment, including the part about me being caught up in emotions, I won't dispute that.

BringPopcorn

The argument is pretty much over when someone asks units as compensation for lost matches in BGs lol

Stature

Hi summoners,

I've been pondering the missing mastery points situation for a while now, and many of us having been down 4 points for about 6 months, this has put our accounts at a disadvantage relative to our competitors when it comes to PvP game modes.

The difference this has made cannot be overstated and I believe compensation should be hefty, as every day where we are being denied the points we are due, we continue to operate at a disadvantage.

Kabam have proven that that don't really care about this issue and would rather cater for the big spending endgame players, in what I believe to be a last ditch effort to line their pockets before the game starts trending sharply downhill.

What do you think about it? Salty pessimism or a realistic outlook on the situation?
I'm pretty confused... Which 4 mastery points would have helped you not have such a gigantic disadvantage?

There are enough points you can use in the trees to give you the masteries you want. If you're just beating act 4 or 5, you're not at a point in the game where masteries would impact you.

I would love to hear a more detailed explanation of how this has impacted your account so drastically.

Kabam historically waits until issues are resolved before handing out any sort of compensation as well.

What is the point of this post? New players join the game all the time. They don't stop at act 4 or 5. Giving them 4 mastery points lower compared to older players is a disadvantage.

If you wanted to be helpful, you could indicate the timelines for a fix if you know of one. Or ways to work around the issue by selecting the best masteries. I'm not sure what purpose is served by regularly dismissing any player concern just because you don't have to deal with it.

World Eater

Inability to claim 4 mastery points due to a bug for over 6 months is a legitimate issue. Granted OP got caught up in emotions and wrote things such as big spenders, game dies and things like that but I think the devs do need to fix this issue as a priority. Having 4 additional mastery points does help a lot and anyone saying otherwise is just arguing for the sake of arguing.

A common sense response !! Well said

SirGamesBond

You had 8 or so years.
I would like to apologize. Especially to the disagrees. I was wrong. 4.4 came out in Feb 2016. So if you subtract the months since act 4 was updated late last year it clearly wasn't 8 years. We will just call it 7 years. Please accept my apology for incorrectly saying you are complaining about something you had 8 years to do when it was closer to 7 years.

Apology denied ❌ ❌
How can you expect me to explore ACT4 in just 7 years. You must be a bot or somthing 😡

BringPopcorn

Hi summoners,

I've been pondering the missing mastery points situation for a while now, and many of us having been down 4 points for about 6 months, this has put our accounts at a disadvantage relative to our competitors when it comes to PvP game modes.

The difference this has made cannot be overstated and I believe compensation should be hefty, as every day where we are being denied the points we are due, we continue to operate at a disadvantage.

Kabam have proven that that don't really care about this issue and would rather cater for the big spending endgame players, in what I believe to be a last ditch effort to line their pockets before the game starts trending sharply downhill.

What do you think about it? Salty pessimism or a realistic outlook on the situation?
I'm pretty confused... Which 4 mastery points would have helped you not have such a gigantic disadvantage?

There are enough points you can use in the trees to give you the masteries you want. If you're just beating act 4 or 5, you're not at a point in the game where masteries would impact you.

I would love to hear a more detailed explanation of how this has impacted your account so drastically.

Kabam historically waits until issues are resolved before handing out any sort of compensation as well.
What is the point of this post? New players join the game all the time. They don't stop at act 4 or 5. Giving them 4 mastery points lower compared to older players is a disadvantage.

If you wanted to be helpful, you could indicate the timelines for a fix if you know of one. Or ways to work around the issue by selecting the best masteries. I'm not sure what purpose is served by regularly dismissing any player concern just because you don't have to deal with it.

Hey he asked...
Quote "What do you think about it? Salty pessimism or a realistic outlook on the situation?"
Don't ask for opinions if you are not gonna like the opinions later...

Toproller89

Hi summoners,

I've been pondering the missing mastery points situation for a while now, and many of us having been down 4 points for about 6 months, this has put our accounts at a disadvantage relative to our competitors when it comes to PvP game modes.

The difference this has made cannot be overstated and I believe compensation should be hefty, as every day where we are being denied the points we are due, we continue to operate at a disadvantage.

Kabam have proven that that don't really care about this issue and would rather cater for the big spending endgame players, in what I believe to be a last ditch effort to line their pockets before the game starts trending sharply downhill.

What do you think about it? Salty pessimism or a realistic outlook on the situation?
I'm pretty confused... Which 4 mastery points would have helped you not have such a gigantic disadvantage?

There are enough points you can use in the trees to give you the masteries you want. If you're just beating act 4 or 5, you're not at a point in the game where masteries would impact you.

I would love to hear a more detailed explanation of how this has impacted your account so drastically.

Kabam historically waits until issues are resolved before handing out any sort of compensation as well.
What is the point of this post? New players join the game all the time. They don't stop at act 4 or 5. Giving them 4 mastery points lower compared to older players is a disadvantage.

If you wanted to be helpful, you could indicate the timelines for a fix if you know of one. Or ways to work around the issue by selecting the best masteries. I'm not sure what purpose is served by regularly dismissing any player concern just because you don't have to deal with it.
Hey he asked...
Quote "What do you think about it? Salty pessimism or a realistic outlook on the situation?"
Don't ask for opinions if you are not gonna like the opinions later...

Absolutely, I want to hear all opinions, as long as people aren't misquoting me or making baseless assumptions about my spending status in the game, but we're past that one. 😉

BringPopcorn

Hi summoners,

I've been pondering the missing mastery points situation for a while now, and many of us having been down 4 points for about 6 months, this has put our accounts at a disadvantage relative to our competitors when it comes to PvP game modes.

The difference this has made cannot be overstated and I believe compensation should be hefty, as every day where we are being denied the points we are due, we continue to operate at a disadvantage.

Kabam have proven that that don't really care about this issue and would rather cater for the big spending endgame players, in what I believe to be a last ditch effort to line their pockets before the game starts trending sharply downhill.

What do you think about it? Salty pessimism or a realistic outlook on the situation?
I'm pretty confused... Which 4 mastery points would have helped you not have such a gigantic disadvantage?

There are enough points you can use in the trees to give you the masteries you want. If you're just beating act 4 or 5, you're not at a point in the game where masteries would impact you.

I would love to hear a more detailed explanation of how this has impacted your account so drastically.

Kabam historically waits until issues are resolved before handing out any sort of compensation as well.
What is the point of this post? New players join the game all the time. They don't stop at act 4 or 5. Giving them 4 mastery points lower compared to older players is a disadvantage.

If you wanted to be helpful, you could indicate the timelines for a fix if you know of one. Or ways to work around the issue by selecting the best masteries. I'm not sure what purpose is served by regularly dismissing any player concern just because you don't have to deal with it.
Hey he asked...
Quote "What do you think about it? Salty pessimism or a realistic outlook on the situation?"
Don't ask for opinions if you are not gonna like the opinions later...
Absolutely, I want to hear all opinions, as long as people aren't misquoting me or making baseless assumptions about my spending status in the game, but we're past that one. 😉

Well you are being salty, pessimistic, and illogical.