My two cents: clearly the original damage was too high and the refund was a pathetic joke. This new damage is a little bit High I would like to have seen it tweaked maybe a touch more, as it's frustrating damage, I used boosts and needed a full team revive plus team potions I had left over from the last sale. mostly due to the fact I'm encountering regular lag this week for the first time in months, my second run through with sparky r3 (no blade synergy unfortunately to see if that idea worked) intook about 3/4 off before dying from
Block damage,
considering the rewards I think Overall the potions I had to use to get my first run through we're about right (I used about the same amount of pots on modok really just trying to work out how he worked, and none on the rest of the quest. I expect to be a bit better off in my explo runs, i only have one 4/55 an unduped drax so it seems
Reasonable To me. When i r4 my sparky I expect I could
Be lucky and do the whole
Thing with only a handful of revives. I don't consider myself a particularly skillful player. That said I actually wish this node was tweaked a little and mordoks block damage dropped a little as well but there could be room to make the rest of the fights a bit tougher. This is the big leagues, it's meant for the people who's only Challenge in the game now is the Coulson style challenges, and as my old mate coathanger pointed out, there is balls of healing this month. Maybe a regular feature could be to have a few level
3 potions and revives on the paths and a few more units (even in the other difficulties for those that want to do them first) I found the 300 units for the 6* challenge to be an exciting surprise, thanks kabam, get this lag sorted and you'd have a million likes in no time
I'm going to say this once, and I'm dropping the subject because that's not what this Thread is about. Anyone can participate in a discussion here, and people are equally respected here, regardless of what they have and have not done in the game. For some reason, that doesn't register for some. It is not appropriate to ridicule people or put them on the spot about their experience in the game in a conversation. Not at all. There are rules agaisnt it, actually. We're here to discuss topics. Not to expose people as a last resort. I'm moving on now. It's not okay. Not at all.
There are no forum rules specifically prohibiting one poster from asking another poster to validate their opinions with either credibility or experience.
Also, there is a rule to treat all posters respectfully. There is no rule that states all assertions must be equally respected.
The explicit purpose of the forums is to facilitate player conversation, not unchallenged expression. Every poster here can be and should expect to be questioned, challenged, replied to, or rebutted when they themselves make statements that question, challenge, reply to, or rebut anyone else's statements.
Huge difference between challenging someone's ideas, and persistently trying to call someone out. It has nothing to do with the topic. It's just plain abusive.
We challenged your ideas because you have no basis to form the opinion first hand. You take it as abuse when we disagree with you when you have no idea what it's like.
No. You challenge my experience in the game because you don't like my points. There's a difference. When a topic is bring discussed in a debate, that's the focus. When you turn it into a trial where other people jump in and start attacking someone's credentials, that makes it personal. In a real debate, you discuss someone's ideas. You don't make an attempt to exploit them.
You have the right to comment, you have the right to not be ridiculed unless you make a ridiculous statement, (searching for those is a hobby you seem to have picked up) but you don't have the right to have your opinion valued unless you earn that
The conversation is moving on now. We were talking about Unavoidable Damage. I gave my thoughts. That was turned into an off-topic personal moment. Which we're moving on from. My thoughts on the Unavoidable Damage still stand. It's a challenge. Naturally, Uncollected will have more Damage because the Champs and Buffs are higher. Personally, I don't see it as a moral issue. Unavoidable Damage means greater resistance to beating them, but it also means greater challenge.
I'm going to say this once, and I'm dropping the subject because that's not what this Thread is about. Anyone can participate in a discussion here, and people are equally respected here, regardless of what they have and have not done in the game. For some reason, that doesn't register for some. It is not appropriate to ridicule people or put them on the spot about their experience in the game in a conversation. Not at all. There are rules agaisnt it, actually. We're here to discuss topics. Not to expose people as a last resort. I'm moving on now. It's not okay. Not at all.
There are no forum rules specifically prohibiting one poster from asking another poster to validate their opinions with either credibility or experience.
Also, there is a rule to treat all posters respectfully. There is no rule that states all assertions must be equally respected.
The explicit purpose of the forums is to facilitate player conversation, not unchallenged expression. Every poster here can be and should expect to be questioned, challenged, replied to, or rebutted when they themselves make statements that question, challenge, reply to, or rebut anyone else's statements.
Huge difference between challenging someone's ideas, and persistently trying to call someone out. It has nothing to do with the topic. It's just plain abusive.
We challenged your ideas because you have no basis to form the opinion first hand. You take it as abuse when we disagree with you when you have no idea what it's like.
No. You challenge my experience in the game because you don't like my points. There's a difference. When a topic is bring discussed in a debate, that's the focus. When you turn it into a trial where other people jump in and start attacking someone's credentials, that makes it personal. In a real debate, you discuss someone's ideas. You don't make an attempt to exploit them.
You are so self absorbed. It's not about you. When you make a point about something that doesn't require experience no one asks you to prove you are qualified to speak on the matter. You aren't being persecuted. I disagree with @CoatHang3r and @CapWW2 a lot but I respect their opinion on topics like this even if I disagree with them because they complete this sort of content. You aren't even uncollected so you literally can't fight the uncollected Ice Phoenix. So when you take up pages of discussion on whether she is appropriately designed you are going to get called out. This isn't a topic you should have pages of opinions about because you don't know what you are talking about. You are free to use the forums. Please stop taking over threads in which you are unqualified to speak. That doesn't mean you can't voice your opinion but you go way beyond that.
If I went by the comments on this thread it appears that her cold snap damage is increasing relative to the number of posts here. Please stop increasing her damage by posting! God I hope this one didn’t push it up to 20k now....
I'm going to say this once, and I'm dropping the subject because that's not what this Thread is about. Anyone can participate in a discussion here, and people are equally respected here, regardless of what they have and have not done in the game. For some reason, that doesn't register for some. It is not appropriate to ridicule people or put them on the spot about their experience in the game in a conversation. Not at all. There are rules agaisnt it, actually. We're here to discuss topics. Not to expose people as a last resort. I'm moving on now. It's not okay. Not at all.
There are no forum rules specifically prohibiting one poster from asking another poster to validate their opinions with either credibility or experience.
Also, there is a rule to treat all posters respectfully. There is no rule that states all assertions must be equally respected.
The explicit purpose of the forums is to facilitate player conversation, not unchallenged expression. Every poster here can be and should expect to be questioned, challenged, replied to, or rebutted when they themselves make statements that question, challenge, reply to, or rebut anyone else's statements.
Huge difference between challenging someone's ideas, and persistently trying to call someone out. It has nothing to do with the topic. It's just plain abusive.
Asking about someone's experience with the content that is being discussed is not abuse.
I'm going to say this once, and I'm dropping the subject because that's not what this Thread is about. Anyone can participate in a discussion here, and people are equally respected here, regardless of what they have and have not done in the game. For some reason, that doesn't register for some. It is not appropriate to ridicule people or put them on the spot about their experience in the game in a conversation. Not at all. There are rules agaisnt it, actually. We're here to discuss topics. Not to expose people as a last resort. I'm moving on now. It's not okay. Not at all.
There are no forum rules specifically prohibiting one poster from asking another poster to validate their opinions with either credibility or experience.
Also, there is a rule to treat all posters respectfully. There is no rule that states all assertions must be equally respected.
The explicit purpose of the forums is to facilitate player conversation, not unchallenged expression. Every poster here can be and should expect to be questioned, challenged, replied to, or rebutted when they themselves make statements that question, challenge, reply to, or rebut anyone else's statements.
Huge difference between challenging someone's ideas, and persistently trying to call someone out. It has nothing to do with the topic. It's just plain abusive.
Asking about someone's experience with the content that is being discussed is not abuse.
If you read the Thread, that's not what it was. It was calling someone out. Followed with others jumping on the band wagon. There's no spin on it.
I do agree that there is something wrong when one champion is as overpowered as uncollected ICE PHOENIX. I think it would be easier to clear every opponent in the uncollected 3.1 map than a single fight against ICE PHOENIX. I was able to drop her with my 4/55 SL but the unavoidable damage was insane.
I'm going to say this once, and I'm dropping the subject because that's not what this Thread is about. Anyone can participate in a discussion here, and people are equally respected here, regardless of what they have and have not done in the game. For some reason, that doesn't register for some. It is not appropriate to ridicule people or put them on the spot about their experience in the game in a conversation. Not at all. There are rules agaisnt it, actually. We're here to discuss topics. Not to expose people as a last resort. I'm moving on now. It's not okay. Not at all.
There are no forum rules specifically prohibiting one poster from asking another poster to validate their opinions with either credibility or experience.
Also, there is a rule to treat all posters respectfully. There is no rule that states all assertions must be equally respected.
The explicit purpose of the forums is to facilitate player conversation, not unchallenged expression. Every poster here can be and should expect to be questioned, challenged, replied to, or rebutted when they themselves make statements that question, challenge, reply to, or rebut anyone else's statements.
Huge difference between challenging someone's ideas, and persistently trying to call someone out. It has nothing to do with the topic. It's just plain abusive.
Asking about someone's experience with the content that is being discussed is not abuse.
If you read the Thread, that's not what it was. It was calling someone out. Followed with others jumping on the band wagon. There's no spin on it.
Why do you care about when people ask you about where you are in the game in discussions? That's a pretty common question when discussion something. Experience with the subject is pretty important in discussions, sho why hide what yours is?
@GroundedWisdom I agree that you were called out. But it wasn't abuse. You deserved to be called out for taking over a thread about a specific fight that you literally can't fight, not being uncollected. @CapWW2 sorry about that. I tagged you to illustrate a point but should've just mentioned you without the tag.
It has nothing to do with the topic. It's a discussion about Unavoidable Damage. The only purpose that serves is to embarrass someone and discredit any view they have. It was not a simple question of how my experience was. It was a specific "You don't know what you're talking about!". If you have a point to make, address the topic. Don't resort to calling people out based on their experience. It's tacky, and not at all appropriate. THAT is why I care. It's personal when it shouldn't be.
It has nothing to do with the topic. It's a discussion about Unavoidable Damage. The only purpose that serves is to embarrass someone and discredit any view they have. It was not a simple question of how my experience was. It was a specific "You don't know what you're talking about!". If you have a point to make, address the topic. Don't resort to calling people out based on their experience. It's tacky, and not at all appropriate. THAT is why I care. It's personal when it shouldn't be.
The topic is "Ice Phoenix" not "Unavoidable Damage". Maybe you're confusing this with another thread?
It has nothing to do with the topic. It's a discussion about Unavoidable Damage. The only purpose that serves is to embarrass someone and discredit any view they have. It was not a simple question of how my experience was. It was a specific "You don't know what you're talking about!". If you have a point to make, address the topic. Don't resort to calling people out based on their experience. It's tacky, and not at all appropriate. THAT is why I care. It's personal when it shouldn't be.
The topic is "Ice Phoenix" not "Unavoidable Damage". Maybe you're confusing this with another thread?
Not naming names but the issue is that you are dealing with a narcissist who thinks their opinion whether supported by experience or not, holds the most weight and attempt to own or be mentioned in every thread .. and I just gave him what he wanted with this comment.
Your comment shows what your intentions were in asking that question. It wasn't a simple question of my experience. You asked if I could even do it at that level. The end result was a personal attack that followed by more than one person. The negativity you incited speaks for itself. We're not here to barrage people. We're here to discuss the topic. If you have anything to add to the points I've made on the subject, feel free to engage. Otherwise I'm not bothering with it. Your express purpose was calling me out. Not asking what my experience was. Spade is a spade.
I spent 500 units reviving and healing to take this absurd idea of a challenge down. I received a couple health potions and 2 lvl1 revives. Horse ****! At least meet me half way. Horrible customer service once again!!!!
Not naming names but the issue is that you are dealing with a narcissist who thinks their opinion whether supported by experience or not, holds the most weight and attempt to own or be mentioned in every thread .. and I just gave him what he wanted with this comment.
There aren't many true narcissists on internet discussion forums, however much it might superficially seem like there are. Nine times out of ten, apparent narcissism is insecurity pretending to be narcissism because its less scary.
This Ice Phoenix is still ridiculous @Kabam Vydious Ice Phoenix's sig ability clear states she does about ~4,400 energy damage. If that's the case, why are my champions losing DOUBLE that without her hitting me? It's ridiculous. C'mon now.
It has nothing to do with the topic. It's a discussion about Unavoidable Damage. The only purpose that serves is to embarrass someone and discredit any view they have. It was not a simple question of how my experience was. It was a specific "You don't know what you're talking about!". If you have a point to make, address the topic. Don't resort to calling people out based on their experience. It's tacky, and not at all appropriate. THAT is why I care. It's personal when it shouldn't be.
The topic is "Ice Phoenix" not "Unavoidable Damage". Maybe you're confusing this with another thread?
Ice Phoenix with Unavoidable Damage.
^ What he said. I don't have a problem with Ice Phoenix herself. I have a problem with the unavoidable damage that comes from her awakened ability & how badly scaled it is.
Comments
Block damage,
considering the rewards I think Overall the potions I had to use to get my first run through we're about right (I used about the same amount of pots on modok really just trying to work out how he worked, and none on the rest of the quest. I expect to be a bit better off in my explo runs, i only have one 4/55 an unduped drax so it seems
Reasonable To me. When i r4 my sparky I expect I could
Be lucky and do the whole
Thing with only a handful of revives. I don't consider myself a particularly skillful player. That said I actually wish this node was tweaked a little and mordoks block damage dropped a little as well but there could be room to make the rest of the fights a bit tougher. This is the big leagues, it's meant for the people who's only Challenge in the game now is the Coulson style challenges, and as my old mate coathanger pointed out, there is balls of healing this month. Maybe a regular feature could be to have a few level
3 potions and revives on the paths and a few more units (even in the other difficulties for those that want to do them first) I found the 300 units for the 6* challenge to be an exciting surprise, thanks kabam, get this lag sorted and you'd have a million likes in no time
No. You challenge my experience in the game because you don't like my points. There's a difference. When a topic is bring discussed in a debate, that's the focus. When you turn it into a trial where other people jump in and start attacking someone's credentials, that makes it personal. In a real debate, you discuss someone's ideas. You don't make an attempt to exploit them.
You are so self absorbed. It's not about you. When you make a point about something that doesn't require experience no one asks you to prove you are qualified to speak on the matter. You aren't being persecuted. I disagree with @CoatHang3r and @CapWW2 a lot but I respect their opinion on topics like this even if I disagree with them because they complete this sort of content. You aren't even uncollected so you literally can't fight the uncollected Ice Phoenix. So when you take up pages of discussion on whether she is appropriately designed you are going to get called out. This isn't a topic you should have pages of opinions about because you don't know what you are talking about. You are free to use the forums. Please stop taking over threads in which you are unqualified to speak. That doesn't mean you can't voice your opinion but you go way beyond that.
Asking about someone's experience with the content that is being discussed is not abuse.
If you read the Thread, that's not what it was. It was calling someone out. Followed with others jumping on the band wagon. There's no spin on it.
Why do you care about when people ask you about where you are in the game in discussions? That's a pretty common question when discussion something. Experience with the subject is pretty important in discussions, sho why hide what yours is?
The topic is "Ice Phoenix" not "Unavoidable Damage". Maybe you're confusing this with another thread?
Ice Phoenix with Unavoidable Damage.
There aren't many true narcissists on internet discussion forums, however much it might superficially seem like there are. Nine times out of ten, apparent narcissism is insecurity pretending to be narcissism because its less scary.
If you're opening a Ticket, it really doesn't matter. I've said North America, and Android and still received a response.
^ What he said. I don't have a problem with Ice Phoenix herself. I have a problem with the unavoidable damage that comes from her awakened ability & how badly scaled it is.