I love shang chi, but placing him a tier above Nick Fury is wild.
I had to drop nick a tier sadly because he’s pretty much unusable on attack for bg’s and i know chi isn’t useable on defense but i feel like not being able to attack is worse than not being able to defend also chi just has crazy utility and is much easier and more practical to access than nick’s utility
Let me convince you otherwise:
He smashes through tons of defenders with ease and he can do niche matchups like electro. He's an offensive God in battlegrounds being fast and safe, not to mention one of the best defenders in the game. If you look at top players BGs decks, pretty much everyone runs Nick fury, and that's for good reason. He is an amazing defender yes, but definitely a dual threat. "Unusable on attack"...definitely not.
Yeah sure he’ll be good if he’s r5 ascended with deep wounds also these are really easy fights doom is the only one who’s a decent defender but his health pool is pretty low
All the opponents are r5 ascended too and that hulk was R3, and I think so was the titania. Also you can't say ham is an easy defender. Very few champs can take him down faster than 30 seconds with 99.9% health remaining.
It didn’t really matter if they’re same rank you’re fighting the same rank except with titania and hulk but still class advantage against non defenders. I can think of a lot of champs that can 30 second ham at 100% and yes he is a easy defender
Corvus and Dani in the same tier as champs like Nick and Titania is hilarious. Venom is way too low
Forum tier lists continue to not be good
Nick only makes it to god tier because of defense
Dani has the utility and damage to make god tier she has slow and counters miss and her marked passive is probably one of the most useful abilities at the moment
Corvus is still god tier he still has really good utility and damage he may not be the best bg’s champ but he’s useable, he still destroys aq and aw and for questing he’s really quick.
Titania gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable i don't know how long people are gonna ignore the fact that her intimidate just doesn’t work and the a.i just throws their special right away and you lose all your debuffs cause they last all of 2 seconds
Venom doesn’t have the utility to make it any higher on the list
tell me ur cav without telling me ur cav
Im not cav but at least im not getting mad over other peoples opinions
Corvus and Dani in the same tier as champs like Nick and Titania is hilarious. Venom is way too low
Forum tier lists continue to not be good
Nick only makes it to god tier because of defense
Dani has the utility and damage to make god tier she has slow and counters miss and her marked passive is probably one of the most useful abilities at the moment
Corvus is still god tier he still has really good utility and damage he may not be the best bg’s champ but he’s useable, he still destroys aq and aw and for questing he’s really quick.
Titania gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable i don't know how long people are gonna ignore the fact that her intimidate just doesn’t work and the a.i just throws their special right away and you lose all your debuffs cause they last all of 2 seconds
Venom doesn’t have the utility to make it any higher on the list
tell me ur cav without telling me ur cav
Im not cav but at least im not getting mad over other peoples opinions
UC?
You’d think someone with bars over their pfp would be a little more quiet
Corvus and Dani in the same tier as champs like Nick and Titania is hilarious. Venom is way too low
Forum tier lists continue to not be good
Nick only makes it to god tier because of defense
Dani has the utility and damage to make god tier she has slow and counters miss and her marked passive is probably one of the most useful abilities at the moment
Corvus is still god tier he still has really good utility and damage he may not be the best bg’s champ but he’s useable, he still destroys aq and aw and for questing he’s really quick.
Titania gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable i don't know how long people are gonna ignore the fact that her intimidate just doesn’t work and the a.i just throws their special right away and you lose all your debuffs cause they last all of 2 seconds
Venom doesn’t have the utility to make it any higher on the list
tell me ur cav without telling me ur cav
Im not cav but at least im not getting mad over other peoples opinions
UC?
You’d think someone with bars over their pfp would be a little more quiet
you'd think UC players these days would be a little smarter
Corvus and Dani in the same tier as champs like Nick and Titania is hilarious. Venom is way too low
Forum tier lists continue to not be good
Nick only makes it to god tier because of defense
Dani has the utility and damage to make god tier she has slow and counters miss and her marked passive is probably one of the most useful abilities at the moment
Corvus is still god tier he still has really good utility and damage he may not be the best bg’s champ but he’s useable, he still destroys aq and aw and for questing he’s really quick.
Titania gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable i don't know how long people are gonna ignore the fact that her intimidate just doesn’t work and the a.i just throws their special right away and you lose all your debuffs cause they last all of 2 seconds
Venom doesn’t have the utility to make it any higher on the list
tell me ur cav without telling me ur cav
Im not cav but at least im not getting mad over other peoples opinions
UC?
You’d think someone with bars over their pfp would be a little more quiet
you'd think UC players these days would be a little smarter
@Samanun what progression are you btw? As pretty much no paragon/valiant I know would put sorcerer and peni in a tier above bishop, overseer, silk, hype etc.
Corvus and Dani in the same tier as champs like Nick and Titania is hilarious. Venom is way too low
Forum tier lists continue to not be good
Nick only makes it to god tier because of defense
Dani has the utility and damage to make god tier she has slow and counters miss and her marked passive is probably one of the most useful abilities at the moment
Corvus is still god tier he still has really good utility and damage he may not be the best bg’s champ but he’s useable, he still destroys aq and aw and for questing he’s really quick.
Titania gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable i don't know how long people are gonna ignore the fact that her intimidate just doesn’t work and the a.i just throws their special right away and you lose all your debuffs cause they last all of 2 seconds
Venom doesn’t have the utility to make it any higher on the list
No one uses Corvus anymore, Dani’s utility isn’t great and outshined by lots of other champs, and also lmao. In practicality, a lot of the champs ranked high are barely used and the lower ranked champs are much better. Venom > Corvus and Dani any day
@Samanun what progression are you btw? As pretty much no paragon/valiant I know would put sorcerer and peni in a tier above bishop, overseer, silk, hype etc.
@Samanun what progression are you btw? As pretty much no paragon/valiant I know would put sorcerer and peni in a tier above bishop, overseer, silk, hype etc.
I didn’t even see who made the list for a sec and now everything makes sense ðŸ˜
But yeah, I agree with you completely. Just playing the game at a paragon/valiant level in battlegrounds and the like would tell you what champs are used and aren’t used
Corvus and Dani in the same tier as champs like Nick and Titania is hilarious. Venom is way too low
Forum tier lists continue to not be good
Nick only makes it to god tier because of defense
Dani has the utility and damage to make god tier she has slow and counters miss and her marked passive is probably one of the most useful abilities at the moment
Corvus is still god tier he still has really good utility and damage he may not be the best bg’s champ but he’s useable, he still destroys aq and aw and for questing he’s really quick.
Titania gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable i don't know how long people are gonna ignore the fact that her intimidate just doesn’t work and the a.i just throws their special right away and you lose all your debuffs cause they last all of 2 seconds
Venom doesn’t have the utility to make it any higher on the list
No one uses Corvus anymore, Dani’s utility isn’t great and outshined by lots of other champs, and also lmao. In practicality, a lot of the champs ranked high are barely used and the lower ranked champs are much better. Venom > Corvus and Dani any day
How many people use a champ doesn’t = how good a champ is And of course venom is going to be used more in bg’s corvus ideally wants ramp also venom is a 7*…
I guess having a counter to evade unstoppable and miss isn't good as well as the ability to shut down some of the best defenders in the game
You’re literally just going based off of whatever’s popular
This list isn’t about popularity it’s about who’s better as an overall champ Silk gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable and not enough utility And i don’t really know too much about overseer so maybe he could’ve gone higher. Again bishop for me personally isn't that fast unless you have good crit rng he doesn't really have that much utility and for me personally he’s not a good defender so he doesn’t make it to god tier
Corvus and Dani in the same tier as champs like Nick and Titania is hilarious. Venom is way too low
Forum tier lists continue to not be good
Nick only makes it to god tier because of defense
Dani has the utility and damage to make god tier she has slow and counters miss and her marked passive is probably one of the most useful abilities at the moment
Corvus is still god tier he still has really good utility and damage he may not be the best bg’s champ but he’s useable, he still destroys aq and aw and for questing he’s really quick.
Titania gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable i don't know how long people are gonna ignore the fact that her intimidate just doesn’t work and the a.i just throws their special right away and you lose all your debuffs cause they last all of 2 seconds
Venom doesn’t have the utility to make it any higher on the list
No one uses Corvus anymore, Dani’s utility isn’t great and outshined by lots of other champs, and also lmao. In practicality, a lot of the champs ranked high are barely used and the lower ranked champs are much better. Venom > Corvus and Dani any day
How many people use a champ doesn’t = how good a champ is And of course venom is going to be used more in bg’s corvus ideally wants ramp also venom is a 7*…
I guess having a counter to evade unstoppable and miss isn't good as well as the ability to shut down some of the best defenders in the game
You’re literally just going based off of whatever’s popular
But if no one uses a certain champ then they are unlikely to be very good and vice versa, if everyone has a certain champ in their BGs deck (e.g. Nick fury) then they are probably top of the game. Equally, people don't use sorcerer supreme much because she's a worse champion compared to other mystics that are faster/have higher damage/are more of a dual threat etc.
This list isn’t about popularity it’s about who’s better as an overall champ Silk gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable and not enough utility And i don’t really know too much about overseer so maybe he could’ve gone higher. Again bishop for me personally isn't that fast unless you have good crit rng he doesn't really have that much utility and for me personally he’s not a good defender so he doesn’t make it to god tier
Peni is a rubbish defender these days as everyone and their mother has R5 ascended hulkling/galan tigra etc and they all nuke her super quick. And on offence she is much slower than silk, bishop and overseer in most matchups and on top of that she can't take nearly as many of the annoying defenders that they answer like korgs, sassys etc.
Corvus and Dani in the same tier as champs like Nick and Titania is hilarious. Venom is way too low
Forum tier lists continue to not be good
Nick only makes it to god tier because of defense
Dani has the utility and damage to make god tier she has slow and counters miss and her marked passive is probably one of the most useful abilities at the moment
Corvus is still god tier he still has really good utility and damage he may not be the best bg’s champ but he’s useable, he still destroys aq and aw and for questing he’s really quick.
Titania gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable i don't know how long people are gonna ignore the fact that her intimidate just doesn’t work and the a.i just throws their special right away and you lose all your debuffs cause they last all of 2 seconds
Venom doesn’t have the utility to make it any higher on the list
No one uses Corvus anymore, Dani’s utility isn’t great and outshined by lots of other champs, and also lmao. In practicality, a lot of the champs ranked high are barely used and the lower ranked champs are much better. Venom > Corvus and Dani any day
How many people use a champ doesn’t = how good a champ is And of course venom is going to be used more in bg’s corvus ideally wants ramp also venom is a 7*…
I guess having a counter to evade unstoppable and miss isn't good as well as the ability to shut down some of the best defenders in the game
You’re literally just going based off of whatever’s popular
But if no one uses a certain champ then they are unlikely to be very good and vice versa, if everyone has a certain champ in their BGs deck (e.g. Nick fury) then they are probably top of the game. Equally, people don't use sorcerer supreme much because she's a worse champion compared to other mystics that are faster/have higher damage/are more of a dual threat etc.
People do use her though She’s not a worse champ compared to other mystics though if we’re rating all mystics based off how balanced their kit is she easily cracks top 4
This list isn’t about popularity it’s about who’s better as an overall champ Silk gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable and not enough utility And i don’t really know too much about overseer so maybe he could’ve gone higher. Again bishop for me personally isn't that fast unless you have good crit rng he doesn't really have that much utility and for me personally he’s not a good defender so he doesn’t make it to god tier
Peni is a rubbish defender these days as everyone and their mother has R5 ascended hulkling/galan tigra etc and they all nuke her super quick. And on offence she is much slower than silk, bishop and overseer in most matchups and on top of that she can't take nearly as many of the annoying defenders that they answer like korgs, sassys etc.
Like i said when they DONT have a counter then she’s one of the best Also this isnt just about bg’s.
Guess what herc is slower than silk kitty is lower than silk onslaught is slower than silk There’s a lot of champs that are slower than silk speed doesn’t = how good a champ is And yes peni can take korg and sassy (speaking from experience)
Sorcerer Supreme and Dani Moonstar on the same tier as Juggernaut and Tigra LOL I wonder if we'll ever see an accurate tier list.
Sorcerer is way too high. Barely anyone has a R3 sorcerer supreme (I personally haven't come across any) but tons of people have R3 overseers (including myself), bishops, hyperions, elsa, silk etc and for good reason. They are all way stronger than her, especially in BGs.
Excuse me, she's above all of those? No way that's true lol
Edit: oh hell nah she is, and Gladiator is on the same tier as them wtf 🤣
My parents once told me "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", but I never listened so here I am.
Are you out of your mind? Some of the responses you've made in here defending why you put champs above other champs are just outright wrong. @Samanun
SS a top 4 mystic in the overall game? Nick not a good attacker? Corvus being god tier? The list goes on ...
Yeah overall as a champ sorcerer is just better she has utility and dmg juggs and tigra really only have dmg Nick just times out all the time Corvus still has the utility and dmg to remain god tier he is still useful
My parents once told me "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", but I never listened so here I am.
Are you out of your mind? Some of the responses you've made in here defending why you put champs above other champs are just outright wrong. @Samanun
SS a top 4 mystic in the overall game? Nick not a good attacker? Corvus being god tier? The list goes on ...
The fact that he actually put Sorcerer Supreme above Bishop and Silk is just... I don't even know what to say I'm speechless.
You got to understand this isn't bg’s tierlist though Sorcerer is a way more solid champ that both of them having both utility dmg and consistency which bishop and silk lack that’s why they get knocked down a tier
My parents once told me "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", but I never listened so here I am.
Are you out of your mind? Some of the responses you've made in here defending why you put champs above other champs are just outright wrong. @Samanun
SS a top 4 mystic in the overall game? Nick not a good attacker? Corvus being god tier? The list goes on ...
Yeah overall as a champ sorcerer is just better she has utility and dmg juggs and tigra really only have dmg Nick just times out all the time Corvus still has the utility and dmg to remain god tier he is still useful
SS is better than juggs and tigra? Lmao
Corvus is useless past act 6.
And @Milan1405 literally SHOWED YOU nick slaying matches in bg's, you just clearly have bo idea how to, nor do I, but in the hands of a good nick player it's game over, clearly.
My parents once told me "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", but I never listened so here I am.
Are you out of your mind? Some of the responses you've made in here defending why you put champs above other champs are just outright wrong. @Samanun
SS a top 4 mystic in the overall game? Nick not a good attacker? Corvus being god tier? The list goes on ...
Yeah overall as a champ sorcerer is just better she has utility and dmg juggs and tigra really only have dmg Nick just times out all the time Corvus still has the utility and dmg to remain god tier he is still useful
SS is better than juggs and tigra? Lmao
Corvus is useless past act 6.
And @Milan1405 literally SHOWED YOU nick slaying matches in bg's, you just clearly have bo idea how to, nor do I, but in the hands of a good nick player it's game over, clearly.
You’re not listening to what im saying sorcerer has a better overall kit
Corvus is not useless past act 6 just plain wrong
Milan showed me a r5 ascended nick with deep wounds doing class advantage fights against champs that aren't even defenders
My parents once told me "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", but I never listened so here I am.
Are you out of your mind? Some of the responses you've made in here defending why you put champs above other champs are just outright wrong. @Samanun
SS a top 4 mystic in the overall game? Nick not a good attacker? Corvus being god tier? The list goes on ...
The fact that he actually put Sorcerer Supreme above Bishop and Silk is just... I don't even know what to say I'm speechless.
You got to understand this isn't bg’s tierlist though Sorcerer is a way more solid champ that both of them having both utility dmg and consistency which bishop and silk lack that’s why they get knocked down a tier
Sorcerer Supreme does not have more damage or consistency lol. 7* Silk can deal over 600k damage in a single sp3 rotation, and 7* Bishop's sp2 usually takes over 200k between actual hits and the incinerate at the end of the special. If you genuinely believe Sorcerer Supreme has more damage and is more consistent than them I don't know what to tell you other than you need to play the game more cause it doesn't sound like you know that much.
My parents once told me "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", but I never listened so here I am.
Are you out of your mind? Some of the responses you've made in here defending why you put champs above other champs are just outright wrong. @Samanun
SS a top 4 mystic in the overall game? Nick not a good attacker? Corvus being god tier? The list goes on ...
The fact that he actually put Sorcerer Supreme above Bishop and Silk is just... I don't even know what to say I'm speechless.
You got to understand this isn't bg’s tierlist though Sorcerer is a way more solid champ that both of them having both utility dmg and consistency which bishop and silk lack that’s why they get knocked down a tier
Sorcerer Supreme does not have more damage or consistency lol. 7* Silk can deal over 600k damage in a single sp3 rotation, and 7* Bishop's sp2 usually takes over 200k between actual hits and the incinerate at the end of the special. If you genuinely believe Sorcerer Supreme has more damage and is more consistent than them I don't know what to tell you other than you need to play the game more cause it doesn't sound like you know that much.
I didn't say she had more damage you can go back and read i never said that im saying her kit is more well rounded and not just a million points in 1 attribute her overall kit is much better
And yes she is more consistent than both of them and it’s not even close silk relies on a.i rng and bishop relies on crit rng while also having a terrible crit rate
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I can think of a lot of champs that can 30 second ham at 100% and yes he is a easy defender
But yeah, I agree with you completely. Just playing the game at a paragon/valiant level in battlegrounds and the like would tell you what champs are used and aren’t used
And of course venom is going to be used more in bg’s corvus ideally wants ramp also venom is a 7*…
I guess having a counter to evade unstoppable and miss isn't good as well as the ability to shut down some of the best defenders in the game
You’re literally just going based off of whatever’s popular
Silk gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable and not enough utility
And i don’t really know too much about overseer so maybe he could’ve gone higher.
Again bishop for me personally isn't that fast unless you have good crit rng he doesn't really have that much utility and for me personally he’s not a good defender so he doesn’t make it to god tier
She’s not a worse champ compared to other mystics though if we’re rating all mystics based off how balanced their kit is she easily cracks top 4
Also this isnt just about bg’s.
Guess what herc is slower than silk kitty is lower than silk onslaught is slower than silk
There’s a lot of champs that are slower than silk speed doesn’t = how good a champ is
And yes peni can take korg and sassy (speaking from experience)
Edit: oh hell nah she is, and Gladiator is on the same tier as them wtf 🤣
Are you out of your mind? Some of the responses you've made in here defending why you put champs above other champs are just outright wrong. @Samanun
SS a top 4 mystic in the overall game?
Nick not a good attacker?
Corvus being god tier?
The list goes on ...
Nick just times out all the time
Corvus still has the utility and dmg to remain god tier he is still useful
Sorcerer is a way more solid champ that both of them having both utility dmg and consistency which bishop and silk lack that’s why they get knocked down a tier
Corvus is useless past act 6.
And @Milan1405 literally SHOWED YOU nick slaying matches in bg's, you just clearly have bo idea how to, nor do I, but in the hands of a good nick player it's game over, clearly.
Corvus is not useless past act 6 just plain wrong
Milan showed me a r5 ascended nick with deep wounds doing class advantage fights against champs that aren't even defenders
7* Silk can deal over 600k damage in a single sp3 rotation, and 7* Bishop's sp2 usually takes over 200k between actual hits and the incinerate at the end of the special. If you genuinely believe Sorcerer Supreme has more damage and is more consistent than them I don't know what to tell you other than you need to play the game more cause it doesn't sound like you know that much.
And yes she is more consistent than both of them and it’s not even close silk relies on a.i rng and bishop relies on crit rng while also having a terrible crit rate