Double Medium AI Reparry…Still
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Anyone working on this one?
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From the team on February 20:
“ On a brighter note, we’d like to share that we are actively working on a few fixes in particular. In the coming months, we will be testing a change to make defenders more willing to throw special attacks, particularly when facing characters with deeper dodge animations, such as Quicksilver or basically anyone with an XL body type. If testing goes well, we hope to ship that live afterwards. We are also working on improving how defenders access the parry mastery in general. The goal is both to fix the current problem with defenders re-parrying champions with double-hit medium attacks and to make parries feel more fair overall.”
I have a feeling this one is being *worked on* the same way I’m *working on* cleaning the basement storage room.
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Annoying, because he is good against many troublesome defenders.
It's a shame for wwbn.
From the patch notes: We also said we were testing an update to the defender’s use of the Parry mastery. This ran into some additional hurdles and will have to be delayed until a future build to make sure we don’t actually increase how often defenders can Parry, but we’re confident we have a fix identified and will be shipping that soon.
Perhaps this issue is buried somewhere else on the board, but if so I can’t imagine why. I also cannot find a direct reference (struggled to find the MCOC Trello board as well).
Anyway, the recurrence of this issue (had a Silk reparried by DM in AW just last night) has made me curious about just how long it’s been going on.
Here’s a thread from October of last year asking why Tigra gets parried on her double medium.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2407286#Comment_2407286
There may be earlier posts, but that’s all I had time to locate.
This makes me feel more confident when I say it’s been an issue for the better part of a year with only a tiny bit of response from the team. Outside of the Feb 20 note on AI in general, it’s really been left unaddressed here.
If it is in fact “being worked on,” I don’t have confidence it’s anyone’s priority. If it’s just a thorny bug that can’t really get fixed right now, that’s at least actionable info that I think the team should have shared months ago.
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https://playcontestofchampions.com/news/v44-1-release-notes/
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Remove defenders ability to parry until they fix it.
These past few years have been the absolute worst when it comes to communication re: bug and bug reports . Downright b!$$ Poor
Heroes with 2 strikes on block are just unusable, people who paid money for early access to wolf just can't use him anymore.
SWIPETAPTAPTAPTAPTAPTAPTAPTAPTAPTAPTAPSWIPE
I do that and don't have a single problem.
This bug isn’t listed on their touted bug board, trello. Zero acknowledgement of this bug on their own bug board and no public communication within how many months now ?? How are we to trust or have confidence in Kabam when they can’t even update their own. Bug tracker ?
This isn’t an isolated issue either; this is now SOP.
Add to that the fact that any mention of the bug (and any progress against) is both infrequent and scant. I searched forums for an update (and I’m not new to forums) before another user pointed the most recent info out to me above.
This makes it feel like low priority—despite team assurances that “when we say we are working on it just assume we are working on it.” Anyone who has made it past the age of gullibility knows there are quite different degrees of “working on it.”
Further add that the impact is more pronounced because (1) it hits some of the best attackers in game right now, and (2) in competitive modes like BGs or AW an AI reparry can be quite costly. To my knowledge, there’s been no mention of any sort of interim fix or remedy for a months-old problem.
So, I think I would suggest the players have already been quite accommodating for several months. It’s hard to tell how seriously the issue was taken when it first emerged, but I’m glad you seem to report that the team is trying to take it seriously now.
It’s high time for that. If there is no fix incoming, perhaps you could suggest to them to lay off modes or nodes that adversely affect champs with double mediums? Designing content that disadvantages such champs—while supposedly being hard at work on the issue—seems contradictory.
Dr. Zola
Maybe I’m not moving fast enough, but I just now had my Black Cat get reparried in practice mode testing it out trying to swipe in while quickly canceling my swipe (M) into a light.
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Update on what ???? It’s not an acknowledged bug, listed on trello. How much of a priority can it be ?
Fragmentation of information sources exacerbates that problem. What’s the proper source? Is it Trello? Is it X? Is it the livestream? Is it Discord? Is it the forums? Is it the website or is it something else? Maybe a YouTube video from a member of the CCP?
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