Deep Dive: Enchantress

EdisonLaw

https://youtu.be/bC-T-diu0X0?si=OaGIUsHn8DKa67uL

She looks cool, I want her

Bendy

EdisonLaw said:

https://youtu.be/bC-T-diu0X0?si=OaGIUsHn8DKa67uL

She looks cool, I want her

Looks very cool im excited to get her at the end of the month

Emilia90

She looks awesome fully agree. Very complicated to master it seems but I love how much thought went into her kit

She hits pretty hard in long fights and honestly seems like she can handle a lot of opponents with an arsenal of utility. For shorter fights she seems decent but I like how her defensive mechanics work so she could trip people up without being bs.

Mysterio

Mortal Kombat fatalities are nothing compared to Enchantress her Sp1

Emilia90

Also wanted to add this here.

https://youtu.be/Qb7NwU4lVk4?si=E5HphKxTbIn7ACNP

ItsClobberinTime

I stand by what I said, trash damage for short fights. She has a ton of utility (I don't even think anyone else in the mystic class has this much) but once again, garbage damage unless it's a long fight, not interested in her at all.
Even defensively she doesn't look like that much of a threat if you keep the spells in check lol hard pass.

Bendy

She also has 2 coming soon champs synergy one of sisters in hood and no sharing the stage

Bendy

ItsClobberinTime said:

I stand by what I said, trash damage for short fights. She has a ton of utility (I don't even think anyone else in the mystic class has this much) but once again, garbage damage unless it's a long fight, not interested in her at all.
Even defensively she doesn't look like that much of a threat if you keep the spells in check lol hard pass.

If u see what shes losted its a 3/5 damage 5/5 defender strength though

Emilia90

Bendy said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

I stand by what I said, trash damage for short fights. She has a ton of utility (I don't even think anyone else in the mystic class has this much) but once again, garbage damage unless it's a long fight, not interested in her at all.
Even defensively she doesn't look like that much of a threat if you keep the spells in check lol hard pass.

If u see what shes losted its a 3/5 damage 5/5 defender strength though

DLL explained that the 3 is a baseline when she has no spells up. It probably hits about a 4.5/5 if you max her spells

Bendy

Emilia90 said:

Bendy said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

I stand by what I said, trash damage for short fights. She has a ton of utility (I don't even think anyone else in the mystic class has this much) but once again, garbage damage unless it's a long fight, not interested in her at all.
Even defensively she doesn't look like that much of a threat if you keep the spells in check lol hard pass.

If u see what shes losted its a 3/5 damage 5/5 defender strength though

DLL explained that the 3 is a baseline when she has no spells up. It probably hits about a 4.5/5 if you max her spells

Yeah just started watching to hear his stuff on her as i personally love her utility and love her damage as i run sym supreme atm in war she be finally be used for me since she looks great better survivability

ItsClobberinTime

Bendy said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

I stand by what I said, trash damage for short fights. She has a ton of utility (I don't even think anyone else in the mystic class has this much) but once again, garbage damage unless it's a long fight, not interested in her at all.
Even defensively she doesn't look like that much of a threat if you keep the spells in check lol hard pass.

If u see what shes losted its a 3/5 damage 5/5 defender strength though

Sable was listed as having 4/5 damage in DLL's video as well so I don't trust that, especially since again if you look at that Galan fight in the deep dive it's essentially a same rank fight with class advantage and after sp1 sp2 he still wasn't dead, imagine if that was a r2 vs a r3 lmao. I'm not judging anyone else's opinions here or questioning your decisions but for me it's Negasonic all over again, so I have zero interest in her.
As for defender strength it's not a 5/5, not when we have Serpent and Bullseye. It's more like a 4, it'll make typical science nukes like Hulk Red Guardian and Silk a bit harder to use but you can still beat her with others.

Emilia90

Bendy said:

Emilia90 said:

Bendy said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

I stand by what I said, trash damage for short fights. She has a ton of utility (I don't even think anyone else in the mystic class has this much) but once again, garbage damage unless it's a long fight, not interested in her at all.
Even defensively she doesn't look like that much of a threat if you keep the spells in check lol hard pass.

If u see what shes losted its a 3/5 damage 5/5 defender strength though

DLL explained that the 3 is a baseline when she has no spells up. It probably hits about a 4.5/5 if you max her spells

Yeah just started watching to hear his stuff on her as i personally love her utility and love her damage as i run sym supreme atm in war she be finally be used for me since she looks great better survivability

The amount of utility she’s packing is insane. Coupled with great defender strength and good numbers for longer fights

I’m personally holding my titans for her and bill. Tons of endgame content is coming so I’ll get a lot of use out of her there and just stick her on defense in bg if she’s not performing great on attack.

EdisonLaw

Emilia90 said:

Bendy said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

I stand by what I said, trash damage for short fights. She has a ton of utility (I don't even think anyone else in the mystic class has this much) but once again, garbage damage unless it's a long fight, not interested in her at all.
Even defensively she doesn't look like that much of a threat if you keep the spells in check lol hard pass.

If u see what shes losted its a 3/5 damage 5/5 defender strength though

DLL explained that the 3 is a baseline when she has no spells up. It probably hits about a 4.5/5 if you max her spells

Well you would probably never need to cast all her spells in a BGs healthpool, that’s really only useful in large healthpools

Emilia90

EdisonLaw said:

Emilia90 said:

Bendy said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

I stand by what I said, trash damage for short fights. She has a ton of utility (I don't even think anyone else in the mystic class has this much) but once again, garbage damage unless it's a long fight, not interested in her at all.
Even defensively she doesn't look like that much of a threat if you keep the spells in check lol hard pass.

If u see what shes losted its a 3/5 damage 5/5 defender strength though

DLL explained that the 3 is a baseline when she has no spells up. It probably hits about a 4.5/5 if you max her spells

Well you would probably never need to cast all her spells in a BGs healthpool, that’s really only useful in large healthpools

Yeah ofc. For bg if I was using her I’d just go damage spells

NONYABIZZ

Bendy said:

She also has 2 coming soon champs synergy one of sisters in hood and no sharing the stage

DAZZLER??????????

Darkraw346

Omg so many spells, and she even have a few more through synergies! I NEED HER

Bendy

JAYIRI said:

Bendy said:

She also has 2 coming soon champs synergy one of sisters in hood and no sharing the stage

DAZZLER??????????

Literally my thought when i saw it i was like easy guess unless its tricking and its someone random

Bendy

Emilia90 said:

Bendy said:

Emilia90 said:

Bendy said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

I stand by what I said, trash damage for short fights. She has a ton of utility (I don't even think anyone else in the mystic class has this much) but once again, garbage damage unless it's a long fight, not interested in her at all.
Even defensively she doesn't look like that much of a threat if you keep the spells in check lol hard pass.

If u see what shes losted its a 3/5 damage 5/5 defender strength though

DLL explained that the 3 is a baseline when she has no spells up. It probably hits about a 4.5/5 if you max her spells

Yeah just started watching to hear his stuff on her as i personally love her utility and love her damage as i run sym supreme atm in war she be finally be used for me since she looks great better survivability

The amount of utility she’s packing is insane. Coupled with great defender strength and good numbers for longer fights

I’m personally holding my titans for her and bill. Tons of endgame content is coming so I’ll get a lot of use out of her there and just stick her on defense in bg if she’s not performing great on attack.

Yeah all i care about is that utility as its a lt and yeah if she doesnt do well for me against war serpents on soloing ill just place on defense see how she does in war as i dont play bgs much to bother about that

ItsClobberinTime

EdisonLaw said:

Emilia90 said:

Bendy said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

I stand by what I said, trash damage for short fights. She has a ton of utility (I don't even think anyone else in the mystic class has this much) but once again, garbage damage unless it's a long fight, not interested in her at all.
Even defensively she doesn't look like that much of a threat if you keep the spells in check lol hard pass.

If u see what shes losted its a 3/5 damage 5/5 defender strength though

DLL explained that the 3 is a baseline when she has no spells up. It probably hits about a 4.5/5 if you max her spells

Well you would probably never need to cast all her spells in a BGs healthpool, that’s really only useful in large healthpools

If you want to use her for certain fights like Maestro and Serpent you will need to cast other spells which at that point why even bother, if health loss doesn't cost you the match in BGs with her then time definitely will.

ShashankGupta

Not every Champ made for damage she reminds me of sorcerer supreme she is packed of utility and can have high damage in longer fights same case here but she could have some way to give buff on opponent so he can power via md as she needs to cast so many spells for extra damage on sp2 and wtf are those synergies lol giving her more spells to cast
Becoming C.A. is easier than learning all those spells

NONYABIZZ

ItsClobberinTime said:

I stand by what I said, trash damage for short fights. She has a ton of utility (I don't even think anyone else in the mystic class has this much) but once again, garbage damage unless it's a long fight, not interested in her at all.
Even defensively she doesn't look like that much of a threat if you keep the spells in check lol hard pass.

Let's see her damage as a 6* first and how practical she is in short fights. Then I'll DEFINITELY be joining you in the rants.
Overall, to me, she seems to be another ANNOYING defender because of those spells, damage reduction, damage reflection and allat. Also those spells are TOO MUCH. Definitely will take a lot of time to memorize and I don't enjoy quizzes. Also for how many times you throw that sp1, I really thought she'd be gaining power very fast as an attacker at least but we'll see.

Bendy

JAYIRI said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

I stand by what I said, trash damage for short fights. She has a ton of utility (I don't even think anyone else in the mystic class has this much) but once again, garbage damage unless it's a long fight, not interested in her at all.
Even defensively she doesn't look like that much of a threat if you keep the spells in check lol hard pass.

Let's see her damage as a 6* first and how practical she is in short fights. Then I'll DEFINITELY be joining you in the rants.
Overall, to me, she seems to be another ANNOYING defender because of those spells, damage reduction, damage reflection and allat. Also those spells are TOO MUCH. Definitely will take a lot of time to memorize and I don't enjoy quizzes. Also for how many times you throw that sp1, I really thought she'd be gaining power very fast as an attacker at least but we'll see.

U would need md for that

EdisonLaw

JAYIRI said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

I stand by what I said, trash damage for short fights. She has a ton of utility (I don't even think anyone else in the mystic class has this much) but once again, garbage damage unless it's a long fight, not interested in her at all.
Even defensively she doesn't look like that much of a threat if you keep the spells in check lol hard pass.

Let's see her damage as a 6* first and how practical she is in short fights. Then I'll DEFINITELY be joining you in the rants.
Overall, to me, she seems to be another ANNOYING defender because of those spells, damage reduction, damage reflection and allat. Also those spells are TOO MUCH. Definitely will take a lot of time to memorize and I don't enjoy quizzes. Also for how many times you throw that sp1, I really thought she'd be gaining power very fast as an attacker at least but we'll see.

She can use her heavy to disable her special 2, plus with power steal, you might be able to spam sp1s

Nemesis_17

She honestly looks very cool, seems like a jack of all trades on attack. I think she’ll actually be decently fast when there’s lots of md, and I absolutely love these mechanics with mystic attackers that allows them to choose to not throw an sp3. First with Wigra, now with Enchantress.

But seriously, why another 5/5 defender? I get eventually needing new defenders to change up the meta, but ffs why do they all have to be 5/5. Why can’t we have some 4/5s and bump them up a bit on attack so they’re more so dual threats? I probably just need to rewatch the deep dive but I have absolutely no clue how to counter her spells, which she starts with, and deals fun and interactive damage with.

NONYABIZZ

Bendy said:

JAYIRI said:

Bendy said:

She also has 2 coming soon champs synergy one of sisters in hood and no sharing the stage

DAZZLER??????????

Literally my thought when i saw it i was like easy guess unless its tricking and its someone random

IM SO EXCITED. CAN'T WAIT FOR DAZZLER AND I DEFINITELY WILL LET HELL RAIN LOOSE ON THE FORUMS IF SHE'S TERRIBLE

Bendy

ItsClobberinTime said:

EdisonLaw said:

Emilia90 said:

Bendy said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

I stand by what I said, trash damage for short fights. She has a ton of utility (I don't even think anyone else in the mystic class has this much) but once again, garbage damage unless it's a long fight, not interested in her at all.
Even defensively she doesn't look like that much of a threat if you keep the spells in check lol hard pass.

If u see what shes losted its a 3/5 damage 5/5 defender strength though

DLL explained that the 3 is a baseline when she has no spells up. It probably hits about a 4.5/5 if you max her spells

Well you would probably never need to cast all her spells in a BGs healthpool, that’s really only useful in large healthpools

If you want to use her for certain fights like Maestro and Serpent you will need to cast other spells which at that point why even bother, if health loss doesn't cost you the match in BGs with her then time definitely will.

There is a thing called aw which they also have to see if work for like negasonic vs bullseye in wars aint that practical since gets placed on stun immunes or nodes that u shouldnt stun so makes her not as great option but for bgs she works like she might not be good attacker for bgs but she might be for war

Emilia90

Nemesis_17 said:

She honestly looks very cool, seems like a jack of all trades on attack. I think she’ll actually be decently fast when there’s lots of md, and I absolutely love these mechanics with mystic attackers that allows them to choose to not throw an sp3. First with Wigra, now with Enchantress.

But seriously, why another 5/5 defender? I get eventually needing new defenders to change up the meta, but ffs why do they all have to be 5/5. Why can’t we have some 4/5s and bump them up a bit on attack so they’re more so dual threats? I probably just need to rewatch the deep dive but I have absolutely no clue how to counter her spells, which she starts with, and deals fun and interactive damage with.

She doesn’t seem like a bs defender though. She’s not turning off all your masteries or anything, just seems like you’ll have to learn how to manage her

EdisonLaw

Nemesis_17 said:

She honestly looks very cool, seems like a jack of all trades on attack. I think she’ll actually be decently fast when there’s lots of md, and I absolutely love these mechanics with mystic attackers that allows them to choose to not throw an sp3. First with Wigra, now with Enchantress.

But seriously, why another 5/5 defender? I get eventually needing new defenders to change up the meta, but ffs why do they all have to be 5/5. Why can’t we have some 4/5s and bump them up a bit on attack so they’re more so dual threats? I probably just need to rewatch the deep dive but I have absolutely no clue how to counter her spells, which she starts with, and deals fun and interactive damage with.

I don’t think she’ll be as tough as Serpent or Bullseye though

Bendy

Nemesis_17 said:

She honestly looks very cool, seems like a jack of all trades on attack. I think she’ll actually be decently fast when there’s lots of md, and I absolutely love these mechanics with mystic attackers that allows them to choose to not throw an sp3. First with Wigra, now with Enchantress.

But seriously, why another 5/5 defender? I get eventually needing new defenders to change up the meta, but ffs why do they all have to be 5/5. Why can’t we have some 4/5s and bump them up a bit on attack so they’re more so dual threats? I probably just need to rewatch the deep dive but I have absolutely no clue how to counter her spells, which she starts with, and deals fun and interactive damage with.

I think this might be one kabam jax or mike mentioned of might be toned down a little so she might have been stronger as a defender of 5/5 who knows

Wolf911

she's not going to be everyone's cup of tea that's for sure ( looking at herc mains )

she's most similar to Wong but with a lot more utility

she will take time to master but once you do she'll be a menace

saving my titan crystals for her ( will buy 3 of her featured crystals with units )

Nemesis_17

Emilia90 said:

Nemesis_17 said:

She honestly looks very cool, seems like a jack of all trades on attack. I think she’ll actually be decently fast when there’s lots of md, and I absolutely love these mechanics with mystic attackers that allows them to choose to not throw an sp3. First with Wigra, now with Enchantress.

But seriously, why another 5/5 defender? I get eventually needing new defenders to change up the meta, but ffs why do they all have to be 5/5. Why can’t we have some 4/5s and bump them up a bit on attack so they’re more so dual threats? I probably just need to rewatch the deep dive but I have absolutely no clue how to counter her spells, which she starts with, and deals fun and interactive damage with.

She doesn’t seem like a bs defender though. She’s not turning off all your masteries or anything, just seems like you’ll have to learn how to manage her

And how exactly do you manage her? Genuine question. She starts with spells, if she throws a special you’re wrecked, if you use a special you’re wrecked, you can’t power control her because she’ll just gain it back passively, and you can’t nuke her down because the spells massively reduce your attack. Like seriously what are you supposed to do lol I have to be missing something.