She honestly looks very cool, seems like a jack of all trades on attack. I think she’ll actually be decently fast when there’s lots of md, and I absolutely love these mechanics with mystic attackers that allows them to choose to not throw an sp3. First with Wigra, now with Enchantress.
But seriously, why another 5/5 defender? I get eventually needing new defenders to change up the meta, but ffs why do they all have to be 5/5. Why can’t we have some 4/5s and bump them up a bit on attack so they’re more so dual threats? I probably just need to rewatch the deep dive but I have absolutely no clue how to counter her spells, which she starts with, and deals fun and interactive damage with.
She doesn’t seem like a bs defender though. She’s not turning off all your masteries or anything, just seems like you’ll have to learn how to manage her
And how exactly do you manage her? Genuine question. She starts with spells, if she throws a special you’re wrecked, if you use a special you’re wrecked, you can’t power control her because she’ll just gain it back passively, and you can’t nuke her down because the spells massively reduce your attack. Like seriously what are you supposed to do lol I have to be missing something.
Knocking down intercepting and something else they mentioned depending on the spell casted
That definitely helps, but it’s gotta be more complicated then just parry heavy her 3 times and then don’t bait a special. I really hope she’s manageable but I have bullseye and serpent trauma lol.
I have that also like i fight both in war and i just hate them
It just gets me pissed off because the community is finally starting to adjust to those 2 (even still serpent is rough) and as soon as we do they introduce someone else.
Have to keep up defenders as they said we lacked defenders for time so they started building them just have to let the wave ride and hope next year they bring attackers also now praying dazzler doesnt turn to be a defender
They fixed that problem 2 defenders ago
Not enough though
More than enough. I dislike defensively controlled metas because there’s very little skill involved, you just draft op defender place them and win. Did you play badly? It’s ok because you placed serpent and they had no counter to his power gain so they ate an sp3 and lost. If kabam thought bgs was too easy they could change the metas instead.
Do agree but lets see what sep brings lol if 2 more defenders we can come back to this and be like need attackers but i do think silk be a very good enchantress counter and titania as both are so heavy nuke but as someone said it was 5 months since serpent as arcade isnt even that good due to how many cosmics just nuke him i feel and i think silk will nuke enchantress like she does with ever mystic
@Bendy , I tried to quote your dazzler comment on her being a defender but for some reason the forums wouldn't let me. So here's what I said
SHE BETTER BE AN ATTACKER. But seeing the trend this year defensively and based on comic accuracy. I definitely see her taking energy damage and reflecting it back as a defensive ability. Cos her ability involves her absorbing sound (in this case would probably be damage) and reflecting it as light energy. But I don't want to say too much on it as I solely want an attacker with GREAT Damage
Dont as i actually want to play her offensively its why i want her if she gets placed as a defender its sad as shes cool
Fair enough. I think the last top defender they released was Serpent though and that was back in March (5 months now). Hopefully he gets nerfed badly but they’ve tried and failed to give us other defensive threats so I kinda get it. Arcade is a pushover and Leader (idk if he’s supposed to a defender tbh) isn’t hard to manage at all
Arcade is supposed to be a 5/5 defender lol. I mean he might be very tough in defense let's wait and see when he enters titan and becomes commonly available.
Fair enough. I think the last top defender they released was Serpent though and that was back in March (5 months now). Hopefully he gets nerfed badly but they’ve tried and failed to give us other defensive threats so I kinda get it. Arcade is a pushover and Leader (idk if he’s supposed to a defender tbh) isn’t hard to manage at all
Yea they’ve taken a nice little break from them lately which I was quite happy about. But they also introduced so many back to back towards the end of last year and the beginning of this one that they’ve made up for it. And serpent is an example of what I’m saying, the damage is already done. You don’t need 5 months of data to tell that he’s controlling the meta to too high of an extent. If he gets nerfed it’ll save some pain, but a lot of it has already been done.
Arcade is supposed to be a 4/5 defender, he’s not as much of one as people think. Destroyer is a 4/5 for comparison. I don’t think he reaches 4/5 so I wouldn’t mind a slight defensive tune up for him, but they better not go overboard. Leader is a 3.5/5 so yea he’s really not meant to be that difficult, just situationally troublesome.
@Bendy , I tried to quote your dazzler comment on her being a defender but for some reason the forums wouldn't let me. So here's what I said
SHE BETTER BE AN ATTACKER. But seeing the trend this year defensively and based on comic accuracy. I definitely see her taking energy damage and reflecting it back as a defensive ability. Cos her ability involves her absorbing sound (in this case would probably be damage) and reflecting it as light energy. But I don't want to say too much on it as I solely want an attacker with GREAT Damage
Dont as i actually want to play her offensively its why i want her if she gets placed as a defender its sad as shes cool
Yup and there's so much potential for great animations with the lights and all that. Kabam cannot drop the ball on such a fantastic champion
She honestly looks very cool, seems like a jack of all trades on attack. I think she’ll actually be decently fast when there’s lots of md, and I absolutely love these mechanics with mystic attackers that allows them to choose to not throw an sp3. First with Wigra, now with Enchantress.
But seriously, why another 5/5 defender? I get eventually needing new defenders to change up the meta, but ffs why do they all have to be 5/5. Why can’t we have some 4/5s and bump them up a bit on attack so they’re more so dual threats? I probably just need to rewatch the deep dive but I have absolutely no clue how to counter her spells, which she starts with, and deals fun and interactive damage with.
She doesn’t seem like a bs defender though. She’s not turning off all your masteries or anything, just seems like you’ll have to learn how to manage her
And how exactly do you manage her? Genuine question. She starts with spells, if she throws a special you’re wrecked, if you use a special you’re wrecked, you can’t power control her because she’ll just gain it back passively, and you can’t nuke her down because the spells massively reduce your attack. Like seriously what are you supposed to do lol I have to be missing something.
Knocking down intercepting and something else they mentioned depending on the spell casted
That definitely helps, but it’s gotta be more complicated then just parry heavy her 3 times and then don’t bait a special. I really hope she’s manageable but I have bullseye and serpent trauma lol.
I have that also like i fight both in war and i just hate them
It just gets me pissed off because the community is finally starting to adjust to those 2 (even still serpent is rough) and as soon as we do they introduce someone else.
Have to keep up defenders as they said we lacked defenders for time so they started building them just have to let the wave ride and hope next year they bring attackers also now praying dazzler doesnt turn to be a defender
They fixed that problem 2 defenders ago
Not enough though
More than enough. I dislike defensively controlled metas because there’s very little skill involved, you just draft op defender place them and win. Did you play badly? It’s ok because you placed serpent and they had no counter to his power gain so they ate an sp3 and lost. If kabam thought bgs was too easy they could change the metas instead.
Do agree but lets see what sep brings lol if 2 more defenders we can come back to this and be like need attackers but i do think silk be a very good enchantress counter and titania as both are so heavy nuke but as someone said it was 5 months since serpent as arcade isnt even that good due to how many cosmics just nuke him i feel and i think silk will nuke enchantress like she does with ever mystic
I’m very much so hoping there’s a fair few usable counters for her already in the game.
I stand by what I said, trash damage for short fights. She has a ton of utility (I don't even think anyone else in the mystic class has this much) but once again, garbage damage unless it's a long fight, not interested in her at all. Even defensively she doesn't look like that much of a threat if you keep the spells in check lol hard pass.
Let's see her damage as a 6* first and how practical she is in short fights. Then I'll DEFINITELY be joining you in the rants. Overall, to me, she seems to be another ANNOYING defender because of those spells, damage reduction, damage reflection and allat. Also those spells are TOO MUCH. Definitely will take a lot of time to memorize and I don't enjoy quizzes. Also for how many times you throw that sp1, I really thought she'd be gaining power very fast as an attacker at least but we'll see.
I don't think you'll be impressed, that Galan fight was r3 vs r3 and even with class advantage it took her sp1 sp2 sp1 to kill him, hence my comment about Negasonic. For now, I just think he'll be a solid defender and good for long form content, basically what Dave said on the livestream so personally I probably won't go after her. No reason reason to chase her.
@Bendy , I tried to quote your dazzler comment on her being a defender but for some reason the forums wouldn't let me. So here's what I said
SHE BETTER BE AN ATTACKER. But seeing the trend this year defensively and based on comic accuracy. I definitely see her taking energy damage and reflecting it back as a defensive ability. Cos her ability involves her absorbing sound (in this case would probably be damage) and reflecting it as light energy. But I don't want to say too much on it as I solely want an attacker with GREAT Damage
Dont as i actually want to play her offensively its why i want her if she gets placed as a defender its sad as shes cool
Yup and there's so much potential for great animations with the lights and all that. Kabam cannot drop the ball on such a fantastic champion
I read the spider gwen comic that featured dazzler and her mutant power is so cool turning sound into platforms like could be so interesting to do something with on sp2 even sp3 it be such a cool animation
Fair enough. I think the last top defender they released was Serpent though and that was back in March (5 months now). Hopefully he gets nerfed badly but they’ve tried and failed to give us other defensive threats so I kinda get it. Arcade is a pushover and Leader (idk if he’s supposed to a defender tbh) isn’t hard to manage at all
Arcade is supposed to be a 5/5 defender lol. I mean he might be very tough in defense let's wait and see when he enters titan and becomes commonly available.
Arcade is listed as a 4/5. He’s not supposed to be as much of a defender as people think, he’s just so weak on attack that you’ll only use him for defense lol.
She honestly looks very cool, seems like a jack of all trades on attack. I think she’ll actually be decently fast when there’s lots of md, and I absolutely love these mechanics with mystic attackers that allows them to choose to not throw an sp3. First with Wigra, now with Enchantress.
But seriously, why another 5/5 defender? I get eventually needing new defenders to change up the meta, but ffs why do they all have to be 5/5. Why can’t we have some 4/5s and bump them up a bit on attack so they’re more so dual threats? I probably just need to rewatch the deep dive but I have absolutely no clue how to counter her spells, which she starts with, and deals fun and interactive damage with.
She doesn’t seem like a bs defender though. She’s not turning off all your masteries or anything, just seems like you’ll have to learn how to manage her
And how exactly do you manage her? Genuine question. She starts with spells, if she throws a special you’re wrecked, if you use a special you’re wrecked, you can’t power control her because she’ll just gain it back passively, and you can’t nuke her down because the spells massively reduce your attack. Like seriously what are you supposed to do lol I have to be missing something.
Knocking down intercepting and something else they mentioned depending on the spell casted
That definitely helps, but it’s gotta be more complicated then just parry heavy her 3 times and then don’t bait a special. I really hope she’s manageable but I have bullseye and serpent trauma lol.
I have that also like i fight both in war and i just hate them
It just gets me pissed off because the community is finally starting to adjust to those 2 (even still serpent is rough) and as soon as we do they introduce someone else.
Have to keep up defenders as they said we lacked defenders for time so they started building them just have to let the wave ride and hope next year they bring attackers also now praying dazzler doesnt turn to be a defender
They fixed that problem 2 defenders ago
Not enough though
More than enough. I dislike defensively controlled metas because there’s very little skill involved, you just draft op defender place them and win. Did you play badly? It’s ok because you placed serpent and they had no counter to his power gain so they ate an sp3 and lost. If kabam thought bgs was too easy they could change the metas instead.
Do agree but lets see what sep brings lol if 2 more defenders we can come back to this and be like need attackers but i do think silk be a very good enchantress counter and titania as both are so heavy nuke but as someone said it was 5 months since serpent as arcade isnt even that good due to how many cosmics just nuke him i feel and i think silk will nuke enchantress like she does with ever mystic
I’m very much so hoping there’s a fair few usable counters for her already in the game.
She honestly looks very cool, seems like a jack of all trades on attack. I think she’ll actually be decently fast when there’s lots of md, and I absolutely love these mechanics with mystic attackers that allows them to choose to not throw an sp3. First with Wigra, now with Enchantress.
But seriously, why another 5/5 defender? I get eventually needing new defenders to change up the meta, but ffs why do they all have to be 5/5. Why can’t we have some 4/5s and bump them up a bit on attack so they’re more so dual threats? I probably just need to rewatch the deep dive but I have absolutely no clue how to counter her spells, which she starts with, and deals fun and interactive damage with.
She doesn’t seem like a bs defender though. She’s not turning off all your masteries or anything, just seems like you’ll have to learn how to manage her
And how exactly do you manage her? Genuine question. She starts with spells, if she throws a special you’re wrecked, if you use a special you’re wrecked, you can’t power control her because she’ll just gain it back passively, and you can’t nuke her down because the spells massively reduce your attack. Like seriously what are you supposed to do lol I have to be missing something.
Knocking down intercepting and something else they mentioned depending on the spell casted
That definitely helps, but it’s gotta be more complicated then just parry heavy her 3 times and then don’t bait a special. I really hope she’s manageable but I have bullseye and serpent trauma lol.
I have that also like i fight both in war and i just hate them
It just gets me pissed off because the community is finally starting to adjust to those 2 (even still serpent is rough) and as soon as we do they introduce someone else.
Have to keep up defenders as they said we lacked defenders for time so they started building them just have to let the wave ride and hope next year they bring attackers also now praying dazzler doesnt turn to be a defender
They fixed that problem 2 defenders ago
Not enough though
More than enough. I dislike defensively controlled metas because there’s very little skill involved, you just draft op defender place them and win. Did you play badly? It’s ok because you placed serpent and they had no counter to his power gain so they ate an sp3 and lost. If kabam thought bgs was too easy they could change the metas instead.
Do agree but lets see what sep brings lol if 2 more defenders we can come back to this and be like need attackers but i do think silk be a very good enchantress counter and titania as both are so heavy nuke but as someone said it was 5 months since serpent as arcade isnt even that good due to how many cosmics just nuke him i feel and i think silk will nuke enchantress like she does with ever mystic
I’m very much so hoping there’s a fair few usable counters for her already in the game.
Fair enough. I think the last top defender they released was Serpent though and that was back in March (5 months now). Hopefully he gets nerfed badly but they’ve tried and failed to give us other defensive threats so I kinda get it. Arcade is a pushover and Leader (idk if he’s supposed to a defender tbh) isn’t hard to manage at all
Arcade is supposed to be a 5/5 defender lol. I mean he might be very tough in defense let's wait and see when he enters titan and becomes commonly available.
Arcade is a 4/5 according to Kabam and he’s more like a 3-3.5 defender atm. He’s not bad at all and I just want an offensive tune up tbh. He was only kinda annoying during archaos but he’s back to being mid in newer metas from what I’ve seen and experienced
I stand by what I said, trash damage for short fights. She has a ton of utility (I don't even think anyone else in the mystic class has this much) but once again, garbage damage unless it's a long fight, not interested in her at all. Even defensively she doesn't look like that much of a threat if you keep the spells in check lol hard pass.
If u see what shes losted its a 3/5 damage 5/5 defender strength though
DLL explained that the 3 is a baseline when she has no spells up. It probably hits about a 4.5/5 if you max her spells
Well you would probably never need to cast all her spells in a BGs healthpool, that’s really only useful in large healthpools
If you want to use her for certain fights like Maestro and Serpent you will need to cast other spells which at that point why even bother, if health loss doesn't cost you the match in BGs with her then time definitely will.
There is a thing called aw which they also have to see if work for like negasonic vs bullseye in wars aint that practical since gets placed on stun immunes or nodes that u shouldnt stun so makes her not as great option but for bgs she works like she might not be good attacker for bgs but she might be for war
That's fine, have fun using her in AW then, if I have to use someone for Maestro or Serpent in AW I'd still use Kushala lol.
Even if she isn’t good for BGs, we have BRB though
That's the saving grace this month for me, I'm actually excited about BRB.
@JAYIRI this is what I mean: Three bars of power used and he's still at 25%, that's r3 vs r3 and she has class advantage, she would've had to throw another sp1 to finish him off. That's four bars of power to kill a same rank defender with class advantage in BGs. Against a higher rank that probably turns into 5-6 bars. People give Negasonic so much hate yet Enchantress is pretty much the same in terms of damage for short fights lol Enchantress is better of course cause of her defensive value and she can do long form content, but damage is definitely mid for BGs just like Negasonic.
@JAYIRI this is what I mean: Three bars of power used and he's still at 25%, that's r3 vs r3 and she has class advantage, she would've had to throw another sp1 to finish him off. That's four bars of power to kill a same rank defender with class advantage in BGs. Against a higher rank that probably turns into 5-6 bars. People give Negasonic so much hate yet Enchantress is pretty much the same in terms of damage for short fights lol Enchantress is better of course cause of her defensive value and she can do long form content, but damage is definitely mid for BGs just like Negasonic.
@JAYIRI this is what I mean: Three bars of power used and he's still at 25%, that's r3 vs r3 and she has class advantage, she would've had to throw another sp1 to finish him off. That's four bars of power to kill a same rank defender with class advantage in BGs. Against a higher rank that probably turns into 5-6 bars. People give Negasonic so much hate yet Enchantress is pretty much the same in terms of damage for short fights lol Enchantress is better of course cause of her defensive value and she can do long form content, but damage is definitely mid for BGs just like Negasonic.
Enchantress also has power steal and MD which gets her to specials way faster than Negasonic
@JAYIRI this is what I mean: Three bars of power used and he's still at 25%, that's r3 vs r3 and she has class advantage, she would've had to throw another sp1 to finish him off. That's four bars of power to kill a same rank defender with class advantage in BGs. Against a higher rank that probably turns into 5-6 bars. People give Negasonic so much hate yet Enchantress is pretty much the same in terms of damage for short fights lol Enchantress is better of course cause of her defensive value and she can do long form content, but damage is definitely mid for BGs just like Negasonic.
Enchantress also has power steal and MD which gets her to specials way faster than Negasonic
The power steal is not enough to make that much of a difference though, regular champs get to one bar in about 12 hits, she gets to one bar in 10. MD could be the thing that ends up making a difference but even then, if you're fighting Maestro or Serpent you can't just spam damage spells cause you need the neutralize or atrophy. There's really no reason to use her over Kushala Chavez Wolf and the rest, I probably wouldn't even use her over White Tiger.
@JAYIRI this is what I mean: Three bars of power used and he's still at 25%, that's r3 vs r3 and she has class advantage, she would've had to throw another sp1 to finish him off. That's four bars of power to kill a same rank defender with class advantage in BGs. Against a higher rank that probably turns into 5-6 bars. People give Negasonic so much hate yet Enchantress is pretty much the same in terms of damage for short fights lol Enchantress is better of course cause of her defensive value and she can do long form content, but damage is definitely mid for BGs just like Negasonic.
Negasonic does have defensive potential as well
Enchantress looks waaay more annoying though, tech class shuts down Negasonic completely. Enchantress on the other hand is basically like an Act 8 boss for BGs pretty much, you can't shut her down with class advantage alone, a lot of science nukes like Hulk and Silk will probably struggle because you have to focus more on removing her spells than your rotation.
I sat down and watched DLL's breakdown and it sounds like she will be a must for defense, tough defender just not with bs like Serpent or Bullseye. It's more of a skill thing where you have to know how to play against her but don't necessarily need a counter. I've changed my mind, she's going up for defense.
@JAYIRI this is what I mean: Three bars of power used and he's still at 25%, that's r3 vs r3 and she has class advantage, she would've had to throw another sp1 to finish him off. That's four bars of power to kill a same rank defender with class advantage in BGs. Against a higher rank that probably turns into 5-6 bars. People give Negasonic so much hate yet Enchantress is pretty much the same in terms of damage for short fights lol Enchantress is better of course cause of her defensive value and she can do long form content, but damage is definitely mid for BGs just like Negasonic.
Negasonic does have defensive potential as well
Enchantress looks waaay more annoying though, tech class shuts down Negasonic completely. Enchantress on the other hand is basically like an Act 8 boss for BGs pretty much, you can't shut her down with class advantage alone, a lot of science nukes like Hulk and Silk will probably struggle because you have to focus more on removing her spells than your rotation.
I sat down and watched DLL's breakdown and it sounds like she will be a must for defense, tough defender just not with bs like Serpent or Bullseye. It's more of a skill thing where you have to know how to play against her but don't necessarily need a counter. I've changed my mind, she's going up for defense.
Yeah it's gonna take some getting used to fighting her, agreed, any champion can take her down (even cosmics), but they will need to have to play around her spells, otherwise they will lose a chunk of health and she'll absorb their damage.
@JAYIRI this is what I mean: Three bars of power used and he's still at 25%, that's r3 vs r3 and she has class advantage, she would've had to throw another sp1 to finish him off. That's four bars of power to kill a same rank defender with class advantage in BGs. Against a higher rank that probably turns into 5-6 bars. People give Negasonic so much hate yet Enchantress is pretty much the same in terms of damage for short fights lol Enchantress is better of course cause of her defensive value and she can do long form content, but damage is definitely mid for BGs just like Negasonic.
Negasonic does have defensive potential as well
Not true, i lose everytime i put her on defense. She has a very small healthpool and her defensive gimmick is super easy to play around
@JAYIRI this is what I mean: Three bars of power used and he's still at 25%, that's r3 vs r3 and she has class advantage, she would've had to throw another sp1 to finish him off. That's four bars of power to kill a same rank defender with class advantage in BGs. Against a higher rank that probably turns into 5-6 bars. People give Negasonic so much hate yet Enchantress is pretty much the same in terms of damage for short fights lol Enchantress is better of course cause of her defensive value and she can do long form content, but damage is definitely mid for BGs just like Negasonic.
Negasonic does have defensive potential as well
Not true, i lose everytime i put her on defense. She has a very small healthpool and her defensive gimmick is super easy to play around
@JAYIRI this is what I mean: Three bars of power used and he's still at 25%, that's r3 vs r3 and she has class advantage, she would've had to throw another sp1 to finish him off. That's four bars of power to kill a same rank defender with class advantage in BGs. Against a higher rank that probably turns into 5-6 bars. People give Negasonic so much hate yet Enchantress is pretty much the same in terms of damage for short fights lol Enchantress is better of course cause of her defensive value and she can do long form content, but damage is definitely mid for BGs just like Negasonic.
Negasonic does have defensive potential as well
Not true, i lose everytime i put her on defense. She has a very small healthpool and her defensive gimmick is super easy to play around
Are you using a tech champion?
You dont need one You mainly just have to knock her down. Shes nothing special on defense. Negasonic is pretty dissappinting in attack/defense overall. I do think they shouldve made her a much tougher defender if the intention was to make her weak on offense
@JAYIRI this is what I mean: Three bars of power used and he's still at 25%, that's r3 vs r3 and she has class advantage, she would've had to throw another sp1 to finish him off. That's four bars of power to kill a same rank defender with class advantage in BGs. Against a higher rank that probably turns into 5-6 bars. People give Negasonic so much hate yet Enchantress is pretty much the same in terms of damage for short fights lol Enchantress is better of course cause of her defensive value and she can do long form content, but damage is definitely mid for BGs just like Negasonic.
Negasonic does have defensive potential as well
Not true, i lose everytime i put her on defense. She has a very small healthpool and her defensive gimmick is super easy to play around
Are you using a tech champion?
You dont need one You mainly just have to knock her down. Shes nothing special on defense. Negasonic is pretty dissappinting in attack/defense overall. I do think they shouldve made her a much tougher defender if the intention was to make her weak on offense
Silver Sable also, her damage is also pretty weak as well despite being 4/5 damage
I stand by what I said, trash damage for short fights. She has a ton of utility (I don't even think anyone else in the mystic class has this much) but once again, garbage damage unless it's a long fight, not interested in her at all. Even defensively she doesn't look like that much of a threat if you keep the spells in check lol hard pass.
Let's see her damage as a 6* first and how practical she is in short fights. Then I'll DEFINITELY be joining you in the rants. Overall, to me, she seems to be another ANNOYING defender because of those spells, damage reduction, damage reflection and allat. Also those spells are TOO MUCH. Definitely will take a lot of time to memorize and I don't enjoy quizzes. Also for how many times you throw that sp1, I really thought she'd be gaining power very fast as an attacker at least but we'll see.
She does gain power very fast. She has a hell of a lot of ways to gain and increase her power gain rate
Remember everyone said Kate Bishop is **** when released, people even voted Shang instead of Kate for 7* selection 💀
The difference between Kate's damage and Enchantress' in short fights is huge lol in the deep dive it took two sp1s and one sp2 to kill a same rank Galan with class advantage, Kate is usually done after the second sp1. Not only is Kate's damage way better but how is Enchantress' damage in short fights any different from Negasonic's? They require the same amount of power to kill a same rank defender and neither of them are able to punch a rank above, even Dave and KMike called her a defender mainly and gave her 3/5 in damage meaning Sable should be hitting hard than her 💀
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Arcade is supposed to be a 4/5 defender, he’s not as much of one as people think. Destroyer is a 4/5 for comparison. I don’t think he reaches 4/5 so I wouldn’t mind a slight defensive tune up for him, but they better not go overboard. Leader is a 3.5/5 so yea he’s really not meant to be that difficult, just situationally troublesome.
For now, I just think he'll be a solid defender and good for long form content, basically what Dave said on the livestream so personally I probably won't go after her. No reason reason to chase her.
Three bars of power used and he's still at 25%, that's r3 vs r3 and she has class advantage, she would've had to throw another sp1 to finish him off. That's four bars of power to kill a same rank defender with class advantage in BGs. Against a higher rank that probably turns into 5-6 bars.
People give Negasonic so much hate yet Enchantress is pretty much the same in terms of damage for short fights lol Enchantress is better of course cause of her defensive value and she can do long form content, but damage is definitely mid for BGs just like Negasonic.
MD could be the thing that ends up making a difference but even then, if you're fighting Maestro or Serpent you can't just spam damage spells cause you need the neutralize or atrophy. There's really no reason to use her over Kushala Chavez Wolf and the rest, I probably wouldn't even use her over White Tiger.
I sat down and watched DLL's breakdown and it sounds like she will be a must for defense, tough defender just not with bs like Serpent or Bullseye. It's more of a skill thing where you have to know how to play against her but don't necessarily need a counter.
I've changed my mind, she's going up for defense.
Straight to r3 tho