Is Beta Ray Bill a bit too overhyped?

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  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,478 ★★★★★
    Definitely yes, I've even seen some people say it was gonna be their 2nd R3 for Paragon
  • HassamaMamaHassamaMama Member Posts: 257 ★★
    ESF said:

    I think it really boils down to how much a person respects “the rules of the game,” as far as what you think about this kit.

    The reason kits like Hercules — or Ghost or Magik or Quake, back in the day — are simply broken is because you could basically use them anywhere, in almost any kind of fight with almost any kind of nodes, with little penalty to Class Superiority/Disadvantage.

    There will probably never be a 6-star Quake, or higher. I probably wouldn’t release a 6/7-star Magik. There will not be a 7-star Hercules.

    See what I mean? Already, BRB isn’t in that class.

    But there’s a level right below those that features what I have termed “catastrophic DPS” and/or “extreme utility,” and to me, that’s where BRB is.

    Think of characters like Red Magneto, Archangel, Nimrod. Human Torch. Aegon. It’s still early, but I think Onslaught and Serpent — depending on a potential rebalancing in which I would lean toward a mild tune down — are in that class.

    BRB, to me, just my opinion, has such staggering DPS, it elevates the kit into a class where — like Archangel with bleed and poison — if you can shock it and you those buffs aren’t neutralized, it’s over. It’s a wrap.

    Again, that doesn’t mean EVERY SINGLE FIGHT. Just like Archangel can’t get started against Bleed Immunity or Red Magneto doesn’t end all things against non-metal, then yes, there will be fights and nodes where BRB isn’t the best option.

    But.

    Again. But.

    Where you can use that kit — and there are plenty of places where you will be able to do so — then that catastrophic DPS is staggering.

    If you know what you’re doing and you play it well, if Shock can be applied, it is a wrap.

    Just like Archangel for bleed/poison. Just like Red Magneto for metal. Just like Human Torch for mystics/incinerate.

    It. Is. Inevitable.

    Completely agree with everything said here. If you think champs like Archangel, Shuri, Magneto, Human Torch, and Nick Fury are insane, I struggle to understand why you’d think Bill isn’t. Not overhyped at all as a result.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,540 ★★★★
    altavista said:

    I predict Beta Ray Bill is the Knull of his generation -
    - Extremely popular comic book character that players wanted in the game
    - Initial previews of his kit had him look amazing
    - Players loved him the first few months of obtaining him
    - For some reason, he becomes somewhat forgotten despite still having good damage and utility.

    The difference with knull is that people made out like he's some Swiss army knife of utility when his utility is situational at best
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,540 ★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    Cuber2906 said:

    comparing to hulkling, hulkling is surely the better fam counter as he nukes him faster than brb and is somewhat safer but i feel brb is better for red skull as the pulverize helps to negate more things tht red skull does.

    Also despite being immune to power drain, Red Skull still deals damage to Hulkling if he hits his block.
    Because that damage isn't power burn. He power drains and deals a burst of damage separate to that
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