Wow. I can’t believe Kabam has decided Serpent isn’t overturned and ridiculous. No changes to how he interacts with nodes and no changes to be able to take him down with more competitive scores. The rebalance program is a farce and a joke.
The rebalance program was never indicated to be a nerf machine. It's entirely dependent on what their goals for specific Champs are, and they've never severely altered any Champs since the current program has begun. Some Champs are just stronger than others at some aspects, and that's always been the case. I've seen a number of Champs that have been called too powerful over the years, and within 6 months time, people were so used to fighting them that they were scarcely challenging anymore.
GW back to harvesting disagrees I see.
Anyways, let me point out the obvious (for most people who actually play the game at least). No defender who has ever been called too powerful since the game's inception was objectively as powerful as Serpent is, you're out of your mind.
That's dramatic.
There are players that are better at the game than you'll ever be and they're saying the exact same things, nothing about this is dramatic, this is the most overpowered defender we have ever had in the game hands down and anyone who thinks otherwise is either just sucking off the devs or plays the game once a week.
Okay, that's inappropriate. They said they're happy with the way he's performing. I'm sure they're aware of their game and their future objectives more than we are. I didn't say he wasn't strong. I said we've overcome every Champ that people had histrionics over. So feel free to flail your arms in the air. I'm sure the game will survive. If it was game-breaking, he wouldn't be left in the game in his current state.
They are but we're clearly not. Are you trying to say what the community wants has no effect on their decisions? Cause we're the ones keeping the game alive, without a playerbase you have no game in the first place.
How exactly do you suggest overcoming all the bs he has in his kit when virtually no champ in the game can fully counter him. This is different to the complaints we got when Korg Peni and Thing came to the game, all three could be countered with skills alones, Serpent can't.
I never said the game was dying, I'm simply calling you out for being the white knight as per usual when you can clearly see the vast majority of the forums are not happy with the decision they've made.
The rebalancing program basically only exists to stop another Hercules from happening in the game, with only a couple scenarios where it's been useful such as with Shuri. This decision feels very predatory ngl, because most likely later this year, they'll release a perfect serpent counter that shuts off everything he does, and a lot of people will probably spend some money so that they don't have to deal with serpent anymore.
Yeah but there’s a fundamental problem with that when you’re talking BGs. There’s absolutely no guarantee that hard counter doesn’t get banned or you get to draft them. So then you leave Serpent alone thinking you have a counter, then bam! Ban or doesn’t appear in your draft. Then you just rage.
The rebalancing program basically only exists to stop another Hercules from happening in the game, with only a couple scenarios where it's been useful such as with Shuri. This decision feels very predatory ngl, because most likely later this year, they'll release a perfect serpent counter that shuts off everything he does, and a lot of people will probably spend some money so that they don't have to deal with serpent anymore.
Pretty sure someone from Kabam said that's not happening and they acknowledged the situation with Galan and Peni where he made her completely irrelevant on defense was too much, can't remember if it was Crashed or DLL or someone else but I'm 99% sure someone said it in a livestream.
The rebalancing program basically only exists to stop another Hercules from happening in the game, with only a couple scenarios where it's been useful such as with Shuri. This decision feels very predatory ngl, because most likely later this year, they'll release a perfect serpent counter that shuts off everything he does, and a lot of people will probably spend some money so that they don't have to deal with serpent anymore.
The cycle of release strong defender, release a hard counter months later will always be a thing. Serpent is one of those champs where it absolutely should’ve come sooner cause of how bs he is, and you’re right, hate how they’re using the balance program.
I’d say Serpent is the defensive equivalent of domino back in her day. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I think crit fail was unavoidable damage and the tech class was mostly cheeks and couldn’t do much to her. I guess we’ll have to wait until 2026 to say “oh at least we have a few hard serpent counters now” lmao. Kabam absolutely deserves the backlash for this decision
Wow. I can’t believe Kabam has decided Serpent isn’t overturned and ridiculous. No changes to how he interacts with nodes and no changes to be able to take him down with more competitive scores. The rebalance program is a farce and a joke.
The rebalance program was never indicated to be a nerf machine. It's entirely dependent on what their goals for specific Champs are, and they've never severely altered any Champs since the current program has begun. Some Champs are just stronger than others at some aspects, and that's always been the case. I've seen a number of Champs that have been called too powerful over the years, and within 6 months time, people were so used to fighting them that they were scarcely challenging anymore.
GW back to harvesting disagrees I see.
Anyways, let me point out the obvious (for most people who actually play the game at least). No defender who has ever been called too powerful since the game's inception was objectively as powerful as Serpent is, you're out of your mind.
That's dramatic.
There are players that are better at the game than you'll ever be and they're saying the exact same things, nothing about this is dramatic, this is the most overpowered defender we have ever had in the game hands down and anyone who thinks otherwise is either just sucking off the devs or plays the game once a week.
I think the most frustrating part is I expect them to not listen to the community. There was a little backlash over bullseye and photon not being changed, but serpent is on a whole other level. The posts made within the last few weeks already prove that. But I guess their DaTa is fully accurate and shows that serpent is super balanced and fair 🤓
Lmao I'm willing to bet their data shows he wasn't getting many kills in BGs, not because he sucks but because he's banned 9 times out of 10. I truly don't expect anything from Kabam anymore this year, this has to be possibly one of the worst years for mcoc, not the worst but one of. Some might disagree, some might agree, but personally it has been nothing but disappointment for me since February.
Wow. I can’t believe Kabam has decided Serpent isn’t overturned and ridiculous. No changes to how he interacts with nodes and no changes to be able to take him down with more competitive scores. The rebalance program is a farce and a joke.
The rebalance program was never indicated to be a nerf machine. It's entirely dependent on what their goals for specific Champs are, and they've never severely altered any Champs since the current program has begun. Some Champs are just stronger than others at some aspects, and that's always been the case. I've seen a number of Champs that have been called too powerful over the years, and within 6 months time, people were so used to fighting them that they were scarcely challenging anymore.
GW back to harvesting disagrees I see.
Anyways, let me point out the obvious (for most people who actually play the game at least). No defender who has ever been called too powerful since the game's inception was objectively as powerful as Serpent is, you're out of your mind.
That's dramatic.
There are players that are better at the game than you'll ever be and they're saying the exact same things, nothing about this is dramatic, this is the most overpowered defender we have ever had in the game hands down and anyone who thinks otherwise is either just sucking off the devs or plays the game once a week.
I think the most frustrating part is I expect them to not listen to the community. There was a little backlash over bullseye and photon not being changed, but serpent is on a whole other level. The posts made within the last few weeks already prove that. But I guess their DaTa is fully accurate and shows that serpent is super balanced and fair 🤓
Lmao I'm willing to bet their data shows he wasn't getting many kills in BGs, not because he sucks but because he's banned 9 times out of 10. I truly don't expect anything from Kabam anymore this year, this has to be possibly one of the worst years for mcoc, not the worst but one of. Some might disagree, some might agree, but personally it has been nothing but disappointment for me since February.
The year when 12.0 released was worse, but this is close.
However we can only hope for the best, and hope that the next mystics released can counter him
Wow. I can’t believe Kabam has decided Serpent isn’t overturned and ridiculous. No changes to how he interacts with nodes and no changes to be able to take him down with more competitive scores. The rebalance program is a farce and a joke.
The rebalance program was never indicated to be a nerf machine. It's entirely dependent on what their goals for specific Champs are, and they've never severely altered any Champs since the current program has begun. Some Champs are just stronger than others at some aspects, and that's always been the case. I've seen a number of Champs that have been called too powerful over the years, and within 6 months time, people were so used to fighting them that they were scarcely challenging anymore.
GW back to harvesting disagrees I see.
Anyways, let me point out the obvious (for most people who actually play the game at least). No defender who has ever been called too powerful since the game's inception was objectively as powerful as Serpent is, you're out of your mind.
That's dramatic.
There are players that are better at the game than you'll ever be and they're saying the exact same things, nothing about this is dramatic, this is the most overpowered defender we have ever had in the game hands down and anyone who thinks otherwise is either just sucking off the devs or plays the game once a week.
I think the most frustrating part is I expect them to not listen to the community. There was a little backlash over bullseye and photon not being changed, but serpent is on a whole other level. The posts made within the last few weeks already prove that. But I guess their DaTa is fully accurate and shows that serpent is super balanced and fair 🤓
Lmao I'm willing to bet their data shows he wasn't getting many kills in BGs, not because he sucks but because he's banned 9 times out of 10. I truly don't expect anything from Kabam anymore this year, this has to be possibly one of the worst years for mcoc, not the worst but one of. Some might disagree, some might agree, but personally it has been nothing but disappointment for me since February.
I think it depends on how we’re looking at it
Champ releases = easily one of the worst. 2023 was so peak
Content = nah it’s been great. Crucible and EOP stuff has been fair and fun instead of revive fests
That’s my take though. I’ve loved a lot of the content and stuff like the daily super and rebalances, I just think the champ releases are so garbage
Wow. I can’t believe Kabam has decided Serpent isn’t overturned and ridiculous. No changes to how he interacts with nodes and no changes to be able to take him down with more competitive scores. The rebalance program is a farce and a joke.
The rebalance program was never indicated to be a nerf machine. It's entirely dependent on what their goals for specific Champs are, and they've never severely altered any Champs since the current program has begun. Some Champs are just stronger than others at some aspects, and that's always been the case. I've seen a number of Champs that have been called too powerful over the years, and within 6 months time, people were so used to fighting them that they were scarcely challenging anymore.
GW back to harvesting disagrees I see.
Anyways, let me point out the obvious (for most people who actually play the game at least). No defender who has ever been called too powerful since the game's inception was objectively as powerful as Serpent is, you're out of your mind.
That's dramatic.
There are players that are better at the game than you'll ever be and they're saying the exact same things, nothing about this is dramatic, this is the most overpowered defender we have ever had in the game hands down and anyone who thinks otherwise is either just sucking off the devs or plays the game once a week.
I think the most frustrating part is I expect them to not listen to the community. There was a little backlash over bullseye and photon not being changed, but serpent is on a whole other level. The posts made within the last few weeks already prove that. But I guess their DaTa is fully accurate and shows that serpent is super balanced and fair 🤓
Lmao I'm willing to bet their data shows he wasn't getting many kills in BGs, not because he sucks but because he's banned 9 times out of 10. I truly don't expect anything from Kabam anymore this year, this has to be possibly one of the worst years for mcoc, not the worst but one of. Some might disagree, some might agree, but personally it has been nothing but disappointment for me since February.
The year when 12.0 released was worse, but this is close.
Nothing will ever beat 12.0, but this is as close as we've gotten since. At least in my opinion, I can't remember the last time I was this frustrated with the state of the game other than when 12.0 happened.
The rebalancing program basically only exists to stop another Hercules from happening in the game, with only a couple scenarios where it's been useful such as with Shuri. This decision feels very predatory ngl, because most likely later this year, they'll release a perfect serpent counter that shuts off everything he does, and a lot of people will probably spend some money so that they don't have to deal with serpent anymore.
Pretty sure someone from Kabam said that's not happening and they acknowledged the situation with Galan and Peni where he made her completely irrelevant on defense was too much, can't remember if it was Crashed or DLL or someone else but I'm 99% sure someone said it in a livestream.
If that's true then it's sort of comforting i guess. Btw do you have any idea when this was said? Because just this year kabam released patriot (perfect photon counter) and negasonic (perfect bullseye counter). And i know that these 2 champs aren't considered to be the best in the game by any means, but the fact is that they basically shut off any mechanics that make those defenders tough at all.
Wow. I can’t believe Kabam has decided Serpent isn’t overturned and ridiculous. No changes to how he interacts with nodes and no changes to be able to take him down with more competitive scores. The rebalance program is a farce and a joke.
The rebalance program was never indicated to be a nerf machine. It's entirely dependent on what their goals for specific Champs are, and they've never severely altered any Champs since the current program has begun. Some Champs are just stronger than others at some aspects, and that's always been the case. I've seen a number of Champs that have been called too powerful over the years, and within 6 months time, people were so used to fighting them that they were scarcely challenging anymore.
GW back to harvesting disagrees I see.
Anyways, let me point out the obvious (for most people who actually play the game at least). No defender who has ever been called too powerful since the game's inception was objectively as powerful as Serpent is, you're out of your mind.
That's dramatic.
There are players that are better at the game than you'll ever be and they're saying the exact same things, nothing about this is dramatic, this is the most overpowered defender we have ever had in the game hands down and anyone who thinks otherwise is either just sucking off the devs or plays the game once a week.
I think the most frustrating part is I expect them to not listen to the community. There was a little backlash over bullseye and photon not being changed, but serpent is on a whole other level. The posts made within the last few weeks already prove that. But I guess their DaTa is fully accurate and shows that serpent is super balanced and fair 🤓
Lmao I'm willing to bet their data shows he wasn't getting many kills in BGs, not because he sucks but because he's banned 9 times out of 10. I truly don't expect anything from Kabam anymore this year, this has to be possibly one of the worst years for mcoc, not the worst but one of. Some might disagree, some might agree, but personally it has been nothing but disappointment for me since February.
I think it depends on how we’re looking at it
Champ releases = easily one of the worst. 2023 was so peak
Content = nah it’s been great. Crucible and EOP stuff has been fair and fun instead of revive fests
That’s my take though. I’ve loved a lot of the content and stuff like the daily super and rebalances, I just think the champ releases are so garbage
Content has been for the most part Ws I agree, but champ releases all the bugs and bs BGs metas we've had have just ruined the game for me this year. I'm fully aware I'm still playing it but that's just what toxic relationships are like unfortunately lol.
So the balance program is an officially a joke. Destroyer is now mystic Iron Doom in perpetuity really only successful in one incredibly narrow match up. And with Serpent we are stuck with a defender that everyone universally laments as having broken mechanics they are a complete F- you to having a chance to defeat him without a counter.
This would have been an easy win, most suggestions were incredibly reasonable and would have kept him as a challenging meta defender. But ego and hubris seem to have carried the day.
Wow. I can’t believe Kabam has decided Serpent isn’t overturned and ridiculous. No changes to how he interacts with nodes and no changes to be able to take him down with more competitive scores. The rebalance program is a farce and a joke.
The rebalance program was never indicated to be a nerf machine. It's entirely dependent on what their goals for specific Champs are, and they've never severely altered any Champs since the current program has begun. Some Champs are just stronger than others at some aspects, and that's always been the case. I've seen a number of Champs that have been called too powerful over the years, and within 6 months time, people were so used to fighting them that they were scarcely challenging anymore.
GW back to harvesting disagrees I see.
Anyways, let me point out the obvious (for most people who actually play the game at least). No defender who has ever been called too powerful since the game's inception was objectively as powerful as Serpent is, you're out of your mind.
That's dramatic.
There are players that are better at the game than you'll ever be and they're saying the exact same things, nothing about this is dramatic, this is the most overpowered defender we have ever had in the game hands down and anyone who thinks otherwise is either just sucking off the devs or plays the game once a week.
I think the most frustrating part is I expect them to not listen to the community. There was a little backlash over bullseye and photon not being changed, but serpent is on a whole other level. The posts made within the last few weeks already prove that. But I guess their DaTa is fully accurate and shows that serpent is super balanced and fair 🤓
Lmao I'm willing to bet their data shows he wasn't getting many kills in BGs, not because he sucks but because he's banned 9 times out of 10. I truly don't expect anything from Kabam anymore this year, this has to be possibly one of the worst years for mcoc, not the worst but one of. Some might disagree, some might agree, but personally it has been nothing but disappointment for me since February.
It’s wild for how high of a peak we had in 2023 for 2024 to end up like this. Lately this game has done nothing but test my tolerance. Successes like crucible have been what’s kept me interested, but this isn’t helping.
The rebalancing program basically only exists to stop another Hercules from happening in the game, with only a couple scenarios where it's been useful such as with Shuri. This decision feels very predatory ngl, because most likely later this year, they'll release a perfect serpent counter that shuts off everything he does, and a lot of people will probably spend some money so that they don't have to deal with serpent anymore.
Pretty sure someone from Kabam said that's not happening and they acknowledged the situation with Galan and Peni where he made her completely irrelevant on defense was too much, can't remember if it was Crashed or DLL or someone else but I'm 99% sure someone said it in a livestream.
If that's true then it's sort of comforting i guess. Btw do you have any idea when this was said? Because just this year kabam released patriot (perfect photon counter) and negasonic (perfect bullseye counter). And i know that these 2 champs aren't considered to be the best in the game by any means, but the fact is that they basically shut off any mechanics that make those defenders tough at all.
It was DLL who said it in one of his recent streams, probably around a week or so ago? Not sure exactly when but that’s about when I heard it
The rebalancing program basically only exists to stop another Hercules from happening in the game, with only a couple scenarios where it's been useful such as with Shuri. This decision feels very predatory ngl, because most likely later this year, they'll release a perfect serpent counter that shuts off everything he does, and a lot of people will probably spend some money so that they don't have to deal with serpent anymore.
Yeah but there’s a fundamental problem with that when you’re talking BGs. There’s absolutely no guarantee that hard counter doesn’t get banned or you get to draft them. So then you leave Serpent alone thinking you have a counter, then bam! Ban or doesn’t appear in your draft. Then you just rage.
i honestly just forgot about battlegrounds because i just havent been playing it for a long time, only played to get the deathless vision piece a couple seasons ago. but yea you're right its still gonna be very problematic in battlegrounds, however it would ease the situation in alliance war though.
Wow. I can’t believe Kabam has decided Serpent isn’t overturned and ridiculous. No changes to how he interacts with nodes and no changes to be able to take him down with more competitive scores. The rebalance program is a farce and a joke.
The rebalance program was never indicated to be a nerf machine. It's entirely dependent on what their goals for specific Champs are, and they've never severely altered any Champs since the current program has begun. Some Champs are just stronger than others at some aspects, and that's always been the case. I've seen a number of Champs that have been called too powerful over the years, and within 6 months time, people were so used to fighting them that they were scarcely challenging anymore.
GW back to harvesting disagrees I see.
Anyways, let me point out the obvious (for most people who actually play the game at least). No defender who has ever been called too powerful since the game's inception was objectively as powerful as Serpent is, you're out of your mind.
That's dramatic.
There are players that are better at the game than you'll ever be and they're saying the exact same things, nothing about this is dramatic, this is the most overpowered defender we have ever had in the game hands down and anyone who thinks otherwise is either just sucking off the devs or plays the game once a week.
I think the most frustrating part is I expect them to not listen to the community. There was a little backlash over bullseye and photon not being changed, but serpent is on a whole other level. The posts made within the last few weeks already prove that. But I guess their DaTa is fully accurate and shows that serpent is super balanced and fair 🤓
Lmao I'm willing to bet their data shows he wasn't getting many kills in BGs, not because he sucks but because he's banned 9 times out of 10. I truly don't expect anything from Kabam anymore this year, this has to be possibly one of the worst years for mcoc, not the worst but one of. Some might disagree, some might agree, but personally it has been nothing but disappointment for me since February.
The year when 12.0 released was worse, but this is close.
However we can only hope for the best, and hope that the next mystics released can counter him
12.0 was bad yeah. I think it was the unhealthiest thing for the game we’ve ever had
Wow. I can’t believe Kabam has decided Serpent isn’t overturned and ridiculous. No changes to how he interacts with nodes and no changes to be able to take him down with more competitive scores. The rebalance program is a farce and a joke.
The rebalance program was never indicated to be a nerf machine. It's entirely dependent on what their goals for specific Champs are, and they've never severely altered any Champs since the current program has begun. Some Champs are just stronger than others at some aspects, and that's always been the case. I've seen a number of Champs that have been called too powerful over the years, and within 6 months time, people were so used to fighting them that they were scarcely challenging anymore.
GW back to harvesting disagrees I see.
Anyways, let me point out the obvious (for most people who actually play the game at least). No defender who has ever been called too powerful since the game's inception was objectively as powerful as Serpent is, you're out of your mind.
That's dramatic.
There are players that are better at the game than you'll ever be and they're saying the exact same things, nothing about this is dramatic, this is the most overpowered defender we have ever had in the game hands down and anyone who thinks otherwise is either just sucking off the devs or plays the game once a week.
I think the most frustrating part is I expect them to not listen to the community. There was a little backlash over bullseye and photon not being changed, but serpent is on a whole other level. The posts made within the last few weeks already prove that. But I guess their DaTa is fully accurate and shows that serpent is super balanced and fair 🤓
Lmao I'm willing to bet their data shows he wasn't getting many kills in BGs, not because he sucks but because he's banned 9 times out of 10. I truly don't expect anything from Kabam anymore this year, this has to be possibly one of the worst years for mcoc, not the worst but one of. Some might disagree, some might agree, but personally it has been nothing but disappointment for me since February.
I think it depends on how we’re looking at it
Champ releases = easily one of the worst. 2023 was so peak
Content = nah it’s been great. Crucible and EOP stuff has been fair and fun instead of revive fests
That’s my take though. I’ve loved a lot of the content and stuff like the daily super and rebalances, I just think the champ releases are so garbage
Content has been for the most part Ws I agree, but champ releases all the bugs and bs BGs metas we've had have just ruined the game for me this year. I'm fully aware I'm still playing it but that's just what toxic relationships are like unfortunately lol.
Oh yeah the bugs are still horrible. The BG metas hmm yeah some of them have sucked. I like this one and the upcoming crit me seems like a lot of fun though
For me the bad = most new champ releases, bugs, AI garbage, certain metas
Good = great new endgame content, great rebalances, daily super and more rewards in general, saga chases and the bonus rewards have been very nice.
Wow. I can’t believe Kabam has decided Serpent isn’t overturned and ridiculous. No changes to how he interacts with nodes and no changes to be able to take him down with more competitive scores. The rebalance program is a farce and a joke.
The rebalance program was never indicated to be a nerf machine. It's entirely dependent on what their goals for specific Champs are, and they've never severely altered any Champs since the current program has begun. Some Champs are just stronger than others at some aspects, and that's always been the case. I've seen a number of Champs that have been called too powerful over the years, and within 6 months time, people were so used to fighting them that they were scarcely challenging anymore.
GW back to harvesting disagrees I see.
Anyways, let me point out the obvious (for most people who actually play the game at least). No defender who has ever been called too powerful since the game's inception was objectively as powerful as Serpent is, you're out of your mind.
That's dramatic.
There are players that are better at the game than you'll ever be and they're saying the exact same things, nothing about this is dramatic, this is the most overpowered defender we have ever had in the game hands down and anyone who thinks otherwise is either just sucking off the devs or plays the game once a week.
Okay, that's inappropriate. They said they're happy with the way he's performing. I'm sure they're aware of their game and their future objectives more than we are. I didn't say he wasn't strong. I said we've overcome every Champ that people had histrionics over. So feel free to flail your arms in the air. I'm sure the game will survive. If it was game-breaking, he wouldn't be left in the game in his current state.
Yeah the game will survive because they’ll just release a few hard counters instead of doing everyone a solid and nerfing Serpent in literally any capacity. No one (that you should care to listen to) wants him to become useless, people want him to be difficult but manageable and fair. There’s a ton of things they could’ve done that would have at least been sort of “lip service” like Bullseye’s nerf that at least indicated they messed up in any capacity like: • Make death immunity a flat 100% chance to trigger so non-Rintrah neutralize is at least a perfectly reliable answer to it instead of a 25% chance you just lose. • Make his buff duration unaffected by nodes so that things like extend don’t make him pretty much unplayable to fight against. • Reduce the ability power rate cap to 0% so you can at least control the power gain. You can’t invert it so he never throws specials but you can a least shut it off then. • Cut the power gain and regen on death immunity a bit so he isn’t threatening to kill you with a sp3 if he decides to turtle for 2 seconds. • Reduce his starting dread or its effects so he’s not quite as tanky, even if he still threatens to snowball and kill if you don’t play well and act fast with a good counter.
Doing any one (and just one) of those would’ve probably still left him comfortably the best defender in the game (maybe Enchantress will take that spot, I’m doubtful but we’ll see I guess). Maybe he’d even still be largely bs. But it’d at least be an indication like with Bullseye that they had gone maybe a little overboard, that they heard everyone’s complaints across all skill levels that he’s too much and a stressful chore to fight. Instead it’s hard to not feel like they’re burying their heads in the sand and hoping that people will just forget their misgivings as if they don’t have to fight against him every day in the bg and war grind.
The rebalancing program basically only exists to stop another Hercules from happening in the game, with only a couple scenarios where it's been useful such as with Shuri. This decision feels very predatory ngl, because most likely later this year, they'll release a perfect serpent counter that shuts off everything he does, and a lot of people will probably spend some money so that they don't have to deal with serpent anymore.
Pretty sure someone from Kabam said that's not happening and they acknowledged the situation with Galan and Peni where he made her completely irrelevant on defense was too much, can't remember if it was Crashed or DLL or someone else but I'm 99% sure someone said it in a livestream.
If that's true then it's sort of comforting i guess. Btw do you have any idea when this was said? Because just this year kabam released patriot (perfect photon counter) and negasonic (perfect bullseye counter). And i know that these 2 champs aren't considered to be the best in the game by any means, but the fact is that they basically shut off any mechanics that make those defenders tough at all.
It was DLL who said it in one of his recent streams, probably around a week or so ago? Not sure exactly when but that’s about when I heard it
The rebalancing program basically only exists to stop another Hercules from happening in the game, with only a couple scenarios where it's been useful such as with Shuri. This decision feels very predatory ngl, because most likely later this year, they'll release a perfect serpent counter that shuts off everything he does, and a lot of people will probably spend some money so that they don't have to deal with serpent anymore.
Pretty sure someone from Kabam said that's not happening and they acknowledged the situation with Galan and Peni where he made her completely irrelevant on defense was too much, can't remember if it was Crashed or DLL or someone else but I'm 99% sure someone said it in a livestream.
If that's true then it's sort of comforting i guess. Btw do you have any idea when this was said? Because just this year kabam released patriot (perfect photon counter) and negasonic (perfect bullseye counter). And i know that these 2 champs aren't considered to be the best in the game by any means, but the fact is that they basically shut off any mechanics that make those defenders tough at all.
I can't remember when exactly or where, but I'm positive it was mentioned and so far it has been true. While we do have Patriot and Negasonic, the issue is the damage is lacking on both, so while they are solid counters they just can't really compete at high level for the most part therefore it feels like a hard counter only for people in lower leagues in VT at least when it comes to BGs. They feel more like training wheels rather than hard counters.
The rebalancing program basically only exists to stop another Hercules from happening in the game, with only a couple scenarios where it's been useful such as with Shuri. This decision feels very predatory ngl, because most likely later this year, they'll release a perfect serpent counter that shuts off everything he does, and a lot of people will probably spend some money so that they don't have to deal with serpent anymore.
Pretty sure someone from Kabam said that's not happening and they acknowledged the situation with Galan and Peni where he made her completely irrelevant on defense was too much, can't remember if it was Crashed or DLL or someone else but I'm 99% sure someone said it in a livestream.
If that's true then it's sort of comforting i guess. Btw do you have any idea when this was said? Because just this year kabam released patriot (perfect photon counter) and negasonic (perfect bullseye counter). And i know that these 2 champs aren't considered to be the best in the game by any means, but the fact is that they basically shut off any mechanics that make those defenders tough at all.
I can't remember when exactly or where, but I'm positive it was mentioned and so far it has been true. While we do have Patriot and Negasonic, the issue is the damage is lacking on both, so while they are solid counters they just can't really compete at high level for the most part therefore it feels like a hard counter only for people in lower leagues in VT at least when it comes to BGs. They feel more like training wheels rather than hard counters.
Imma do some storm glazing here but idk why we needed Negasonic when storm does mostly everything she can way faster lmao. The true og skill counter
Wow. I can’t believe Kabam has decided Serpent isn’t overturned and ridiculous. No changes to how he interacts with nodes and no changes to be able to take him down with more competitive scores. The rebalance program is a farce and a joke.
The rebalance program was never indicated to be a nerf machine. It's entirely dependent on what their goals for specific Champs are, and they've never severely altered any Champs since the current program has begun. Some Champs are just stronger than others at some aspects, and that's always been the case. I've seen a number of Champs that have been called too powerful over the years, and within 6 months time, people were so used to fighting them that they were scarcely challenging anymore.
GW back to harvesting disagrees I see.
Anyways, let me point out the obvious (for most people who actually play the game at least). No defender who has ever been called too powerful since the game's inception was objectively as powerful as Serpent is, you're out of your mind.
That's dramatic.
There are players that are better at the game than you'll ever be and they're saying the exact same things, nothing about this is dramatic, this is the most overpowered defender we have ever had in the game hands down and anyone who thinks otherwise is either just sucking off the devs or plays the game once a week.
Okay, that's inappropriate. They said they're happy with the way he's performing. I'm sure they're aware of their game and their future objectives more than we are. I didn't say he wasn't strong. I said we've overcome every Champ that people had histrionics over. So feel free to flail your arms in the air. I'm sure the game will survive. If it was game-breaking, he wouldn't be left in the game in his current state.
I highly disagree with this. I don’t know if you’ve ever tuned into a livestream but devs have openly admitted they don’t have the skill or play in high tier stakes or end game. A lot of the content creators that do play higher tier and hit celestial have made comments about how disgusting and busted of a defender Serpent is. I would trust the word of celestial tier, tier 1 war content creators more than I ever would the devs. If the devs want to call me out and say I’m wrong that’s fine but they never come out and talk about their viewpoint on the game. I see the content creators daily doing the BG grinds, the war grinds, and creating tier lists for everyone so I 100% take their word that Serpent is busted over thinking the devs know 100% what’s healthy for the game.
The rebalancing program basically only exists to stop another Hercules from happening in the game, with only a couple scenarios where it's been useful such as with Shuri. This decision feels very predatory ngl, because most likely later this year, they'll release a perfect serpent counter that shuts off everything he does, and a lot of people will probably spend some money so that they don't have to deal with serpent anymore.
Pretty sure someone from Kabam said that's not happening and they acknowledged the situation with Galan and Peni where he made her completely irrelevant on defense was too much, can't remember if it was Crashed or DLL or someone else but I'm 99% sure someone said it in a livestream.
If that's true then it's sort of comforting i guess. Btw do you have any idea when this was said? Because just this year kabam released patriot (perfect photon counter) and negasonic (perfect bullseye counter). And i know that these 2 champs aren't considered to be the best in the game by any means, but the fact is that they basically shut off any mechanics that make those defenders tough at all.
It was DLL who said it in one of his recent streams, probably around a week or so ago? Not sure exactly when but that’s about when I heard it
Thanks, wasn't sure if it was DLL or Crashed I'm glad someone was able to confirm.
Wow. I can’t believe Kabam has decided Serpent isn’t overturned and ridiculous. No changes to how he interacts with nodes and no changes to be able to take him down with more competitive scores. The rebalance program is a farce and a joke.
The rebalance program was never indicated to be a nerf machine. It's entirely dependent on what their goals for specific Champs are, and they've never severely altered any Champs since the current program has begun. Some Champs are just stronger than others at some aspects, and that's always been the case. I've seen a number of Champs that have been called too powerful over the years, and within 6 months time, people were so used to fighting them that they were scarcely challenging anymore.
GW back to harvesting disagrees I see.
Anyways, let me point out the obvious (for most people who actually play the game at least). No defender who has ever been called too powerful since the game's inception was objectively as powerful as Serpent is, you're out of your mind.
That's dramatic.
There are players that are better at the game than you'll ever be and they're saying the exact same things, nothing about this is dramatic, this is the most overpowered defender we have ever had in the game hands down and anyone who thinks otherwise is either just sucking off the devs or plays the game once a week.
I think the most frustrating part is I expect them to not listen to the community. There was a little backlash over bullseye and photon not being changed, but serpent is on a whole other level. The posts made within the last few weeks already prove that. But I guess their DaTa is fully accurate and shows that serpent is super balanced and fair 🤓
Lmao I'm willing to bet their data shows he wasn't getting many kills in BGs, not because he sucks but because he's banned 9 times out of 10. I truly don't expect anything from Kabam anymore this year, this has to be possibly one of the worst years for mcoc, not the worst but one of. Some might disagree, some might agree, but personally it has been nothing but disappointment for me since February.
It’s wild for how high of a peak we had in 2023 for 2024 to end up like this. Lately this game has done nothing but test my tolerance. Successes like crucible have been what’s kept me interested, but this isn’t helping.
Crucible was definitely a W and EOP has been a W for the most part so far as well, other stuff like the Trader's Outpost and the Super Event have also been great but the Ls have far outweighed the Ws. The bugs, some of the horrendous BGs metas we had, and most of all the champ releases I literally can't remember the last time I was excited about an attacker, I think it was Kushala last year.
The rebalancing program basically only exists to stop another Hercules from happening in the game, with only a couple scenarios where it's been useful such as with Shuri. This decision feels very predatory ngl, because most likely later this year, they'll release a perfect serpent counter that shuts off everything he does, and a lot of people will probably spend some money so that they don't have to deal with serpent anymore.
Pretty sure someone from Kabam said that's not happening and they acknowledged the situation with Galan and Peni where he made her completely irrelevant on defense was too much, can't remember if it was Crashed or DLL or someone else but I'm 99% sure someone said it in a livestream.
If that's true then it's sort of comforting i guess. Btw do you have any idea when this was said? Because just this year kabam released patriot (perfect photon counter) and negasonic (perfect bullseye counter). And i know that these 2 champs aren't considered to be the best in the game by any means, but the fact is that they basically shut off any mechanics that make those defenders tough at all.
It was DLL who said it in one of his recent streams, probably around a week or so ago? Not sure exactly when but that’s about when I heard it
Thanks, wasn't sure if it was DLL or Crashed I'm glad someone was able to confirm.
Wow. I can’t believe Kabam has decided Serpent isn’t overturned and ridiculous. No changes to how he interacts with nodes and no changes to be able to take him down with more competitive scores. The rebalance program is a farce and a joke.
The rebalance program was never indicated to be a nerf machine. It's entirely dependent on what their goals for specific Champs are, and they've never severely altered any Champs since the current program has begun. Some Champs are just stronger than others at some aspects, and that's always been the case. I've seen a number of Champs that have been called too powerful over the years, and within 6 months time, people were so used to fighting them that they were scarcely challenging anymore.
GW back to harvesting disagrees I see.
Anyways, let me point out the obvious (for most people who actually play the game at least). No defender who has ever been called too powerful since the game's inception was objectively as powerful as Serpent is, you're out of your mind.
That's dramatic.
There are players that are better at the game than you'll ever be and they're saying the exact same things, nothing about this is dramatic, this is the most overpowered defender we have ever had in the game hands down and anyone who thinks otherwise is either just sucking off the devs or plays the game once a week.
I think the most frustrating part is I expect them to not listen to the community. There was a little backlash over bullseye and photon not being changed, but serpent is on a whole other level. The posts made within the last few weeks already prove that. But I guess their DaTa is fully accurate and shows that serpent is super balanced and fair 🤓
Lmao I'm willing to bet their data shows he wasn't getting many kills in BGs, not because he sucks but because he's banned 9 times out of 10. I truly don't expect anything from Kabam anymore this year, this has to be possibly one of the worst years for mcoc, not the worst but one of. Some might disagree, some might agree, but personally it has been nothing but disappointment for me since February.
It’s wild for how high of a peak we had in 2023 for 2024 to end up like this. Lately this game has done nothing but test my tolerance. Successes like crucible have been what’s kept me interested, but this isn’t helping.
Crucible was definitely a W and EOP has been a W for the most part so far as well, other stuff like the Trader's Outpost and the Super Event have also been great but the Ls have far outweighed the Ws. The bugs, some of the horrendous BGs metas we had, and most of all the champ releases I literally can't remember the last time I was excited about an attacker, I think it was Kushala last year.
We are getting multiple rebalances soon too and I’m excited to see all the coming content. If this year had great champs I could maybe look past the recurring AI issues and bugs but I feel like that’s truly what’s holding this year back
I know Shathra is going to be a must have though. Guarantee she turns serpent into a piece of trash lmao. White Tiger was probably the last champ I was truly happy for. Oh and BRB too, but i don’t think I’ll be using him much for bg
Wow. I can’t believe Kabam has decided Serpent isn’t overturned and ridiculous. No changes to how he interacts with nodes and no changes to be able to take him down with more competitive scores. The rebalance program is a farce and a joke.
The rebalance program was never indicated to be a nerf machine. It's entirely dependent on what their goals for specific Champs are, and they've never severely altered any Champs since the current program has begun. Some Champs are just stronger than others at some aspects, and that's always been the case. I've seen a number of Champs that have been called too powerful over the years, and within 6 months time, people were so used to fighting them that they were scarcely challenging anymore.
GW back to harvesting disagrees I see.
Anyways, let me point out the obvious (for most people who actually play the game at least). No defender who has ever been called too powerful since the game's inception was objectively as powerful as Serpent is, you're out of your mind.
That's dramatic.
There are players that are better at the game than you'll ever be and they're saying the exact same things, nothing about this is dramatic, this is the most overpowered defender we have ever had in the game hands down and anyone who thinks otherwise is either just sucking off the devs or plays the game once a week.
Okay, that's inappropriate. They said they're happy with the way he's performing. I'm sure they're aware of their game and their future objectives more than we are. I didn't say he wasn't strong. I said we've overcome every Champ that people had histrionics over. So feel free to flail your arms in the air. I'm sure the game will survive. If it was game-breaking, he wouldn't be left in the game in his current state.
I highly disagree with this. I don’t know if you’ve ever tuned into a livestream but devs have openly admitted they don’t have the skill or play in high tier stakes or end game. A lot of the content creators that do play higher tier and hit celestial have made comments about how disgusting and busted of a defender Serpent is. I would trust the word of celestial tier, tier 1 war content creators more than I ever would the devs. If the devs want to call me out and say I’m wrong that’s fine but they never come out and talk about their viewpoint on the game. I see the content creators daily doing the BG grinds, the war grinds, and creating tier lists for everyone so I 100% take their word that Serpent is busted over thinking the devs know 100% what’s healthy for the game.
You're mistaken. There are Devs that play at high levels. To say they don't know their own game is just plain ignorant.
Wow. I can’t believe Kabam has decided Serpent isn’t overturned and ridiculous. No changes to how he interacts with nodes and no changes to be able to take him down with more competitive scores. The rebalance program is a farce and a joke.
The rebalance program was never indicated to be a nerf machine. It's entirely dependent on what their goals for specific Champs are, and they've never severely altered any Champs since the current program has begun. Some Champs are just stronger than others at some aspects, and that's always been the case. I've seen a number of Champs that have been called too powerful over the years, and within 6 months time, people were so used to fighting them that they were scarcely challenging anymore.
GW back to harvesting disagrees I see.
Anyways, let me point out the obvious (for most people who actually play the game at least). No defender who has ever been called too powerful since the game's inception was objectively as powerful as Serpent is, you're out of your mind.
That's dramatic.
There are players that are better at the game than you'll ever be and they're saying the exact same things, nothing about this is dramatic, this is the most overpowered defender we have ever had in the game hands down and anyone who thinks otherwise is either just sucking off the devs or plays the game once a week.
Okay, that's inappropriate. They said they're happy with the way he's performing. I'm sure they're aware of their game and their future objectives more than we are. I didn't say he wasn't strong. I said we've overcome every Champ that people had histrionics over. So feel free to flail your arms in the air. I'm sure the game will survive. If it was game-breaking, he wouldn't be left in the game in his current state.
I highly disagree with this. I don’t know if you’ve ever tuned into a livestream but devs have openly admitted they don’t have the skill or play in high tier stakes or end game. A lot of the content creators that do play higher tier and hit celestial have made comments about how disgusting and busted of a defender Serpent is. I would trust the word of celestial tier, tier 1 war content creators more than I ever would the devs. If the devs want to call me out and say I’m wrong that’s fine but they never come out and talk about their viewpoint on the game. I see the content creators daily doing the BG grinds, the war grinds, and creating tier lists for everyone so I 100% take their word that Serpent is busted over thinking the devs know 100% what’s healthy for the game.
You're mistaken. There are Devs that play at high levels. To say they don't know their own game is just plain ignorant.
Ok so I guess the content creators that play daily at a high level are just wrong?
Wow. I can’t believe Kabam has decided Serpent isn’t overturned and ridiculous. No changes to how he interacts with nodes and no changes to be able to take him down with more competitive scores. The rebalance program is a farce and a joke.
The rebalance program was never indicated to be a nerf machine. It's entirely dependent on what their goals for specific Champs are, and they've never severely altered any Champs since the current program has begun. Some Champs are just stronger than others at some aspects, and that's always been the case. I've seen a number of Champs that have been called too powerful over the years, and within 6 months time, people were so used to fighting them that they were scarcely challenging anymore.
GW back to harvesting disagrees I see.
Anyways, let me point out the obvious (for most people who actually play the game at least). No defender who has ever been called too powerful since the game's inception was objectively as powerful as Serpent is, you're out of your mind.
That's dramatic.
There are players that are better at the game than you'll ever be and they're saying the exact same things, nothing about this is dramatic, this is the most overpowered defender we have ever had in the game hands down and anyone who thinks otherwise is either just sucking off the devs or plays the game once a week.
Okay, that's inappropriate. They said they're happy with the way he's performing. I'm sure they're aware of their game and their future objectives more than we are. I didn't say he wasn't strong. I said we've overcome every Champ that people had histrionics over. So feel free to flail your arms in the air. I'm sure the game will survive. If it was game-breaking, he wouldn't be left in the game in his current state.
I highly disagree with this. I don’t know if you’ve ever tuned into a livestream but devs have openly admitted they don’t have the skill or play in high tier stakes or end game. A lot of the content creators that do play higher tier and hit celestial have made comments about how disgusting and busted of a defender Serpent is. I would trust the word of celestial tier, tier 1 war content creators more than I ever would the devs. If the devs want to call me out and say I’m wrong that’s fine but they never come out and talk about their viewpoint on the game. I see the content creators daily doing the BG grinds, the war grinds, and creating tier lists for everyone so I 100% take their word that Serpent is busted over thinking the devs know 100% what’s healthy for the game.
You're mistaken. There are Devs that play at high levels. To say they don't know their own game is just plain ignorant.
Ok so I guess the content creators that play daily at a high level are just wrong?
I didn't say that either. To be honest, it isn't my decision. Nor is it yours, or the content creators. It's Kabam's decision based on how they want certain Champs to perform, which is why I said as much. Feedback is important, yes. Ultimately the decision is theirs. They're not blind to the game. If they said they're not touching him because he's performing as they intended, then that's pretty self-explanatory.
The rebalancing program basically only exists to stop another Hercules from happening in the game, with only a couple scenarios where it's been useful such as with Shuri. This decision feels very predatory ngl, because most likely later this year, they'll release a perfect serpent counter that shuts off everything he does, and a lot of people will probably spend some money so that they don't have to deal with serpent anymore.
Pretty sure someone from Kabam said that's not happening and they acknowledged the situation with Galan and Peni where he made her completely irrelevant on defense was too much, can't remember if it was Crashed or DLL or someone else but I'm 99% sure someone said it in a livestream.
If that's true then it's sort of comforting i guess. Btw do you have any idea when this was said? Because just this year kabam released patriot (perfect photon counter) and negasonic (perfect bullseye counter). And i know that these 2 champs aren't considered to be the best in the game by any means, but the fact is that they basically shut off any mechanics that make those defenders tough at all.
It was DLL who said it in one of his recent streams, probably around a week or so ago? Not sure exactly when but that’s about when I heard it
Thanks, wasn't sure if it was DLL or Crashed I'm glad someone was able to confirm.
Wow. I can’t believe Kabam has decided Serpent isn’t overturned and ridiculous. No changes to how he interacts with nodes and no changes to be able to take him down with more competitive scores. The rebalance program is a farce and a joke.
The rebalance program was never indicated to be a nerf machine. It's entirely dependent on what their goals for specific Champs are, and they've never severely altered any Champs since the current program has begun. Some Champs are just stronger than others at some aspects, and that's always been the case. I've seen a number of Champs that have been called too powerful over the years, and within 6 months time, people were so used to fighting them that they were scarcely challenging anymore.
GW back to harvesting disagrees I see.
Anyways, let me point out the obvious (for most people who actually play the game at least). No defender who has ever been called too powerful since the game's inception was objectively as powerful as Serpent is, you're out of your mind.
That's dramatic.
There are players that are better at the game than you'll ever be and they're saying the exact same things, nothing about this is dramatic, this is the most overpowered defender we have ever had in the game hands down and anyone who thinks otherwise is either just sucking off the devs or plays the game once a week.
I think the most frustrating part is I expect them to not listen to the community. There was a little backlash over bullseye and photon not being changed, but serpent is on a whole other level. The posts made within the last few weeks already prove that. But I guess their DaTa is fully accurate and shows that serpent is super balanced and fair 🤓
Lmao I'm willing to bet their data shows he wasn't getting many kills in BGs, not because he sucks but because he's banned 9 times out of 10. I truly don't expect anything from Kabam anymore this year, this has to be possibly one of the worst years for mcoc, not the worst but one of. Some might disagree, some might agree, but personally it has been nothing but disappointment for me since February.
It’s wild for how high of a peak we had in 2023 for 2024 to end up like this. Lately this game has done nothing but test my tolerance. Successes like crucible have been what’s kept me interested, but this isn’t helping.
Crucible was definitely a W and EOP has been a W for the most part so far as well, other stuff like the Trader's Outpost and the Super Event have also been great but the Ls have far outweighed the Ws. The bugs, some of the horrendous BGs metas we had, and most of all the champ releases I literally can't remember the last time I was excited about an attacker, I think it was Kushala last year.
We are getting multiple rebalances soon too and I’m excited to see all the coming content. If this year had great champs I could maybe look past the recurring AI issues and bugs but I feel like that’s truly what’s holding this year back
I know Shathra is going to be a must have though. Guarantee she turns serpent into a piece of trash lmao. White Tiger was probably the last champ I was truly happy for. Oh and BRB too, but i don’t think I’ll be using him much for bg
I'm excited for the content, buffs as well cause they haven't disappointed but everything else I really don't care about.
As for Shathra, she looks like a pure attacker based on those easy to dex specials but I don't think there will ever be such thing as a hard Serpent counter unless it's a very slow like Negasonic with Bullseye and Patriot with Photon. DLL said they don't want another Galan Peni situation ever again, so that door has already been closed.
Wow. I can’t believe Kabam has decided Serpent isn’t overturned and ridiculous. No changes to how he interacts with nodes and no changes to be able to take him down with more competitive scores. The rebalance program is a farce and a joke.
The rebalance program was never indicated to be a nerf machine. It's entirely dependent on what their goals for specific Champs are, and they've never severely altered any Champs since the current program has begun. Some Champs are just stronger than others at some aspects, and that's always been the case. I've seen a number of Champs that have been called too powerful over the years, and within 6 months time, people were so used to fighting them that they were scarcely challenging anymore.
GW back to harvesting disagrees I see.
Anyways, let me point out the obvious (for most people who actually play the game at least). No defender who has ever been called too powerful since the game's inception was objectively as powerful as Serpent is, you're out of your mind.
That's dramatic.
There are players that are better at the game than you'll ever be and they're saying the exact same things, nothing about this is dramatic, this is the most overpowered defender we have ever had in the game hands down and anyone who thinks otherwise is either just sucking off the devs or plays the game once a week.
Okay, that's inappropriate. They said they're happy with the way he's performing. I'm sure they're aware of their game and their future objectives more than we are. I didn't say he wasn't strong. I said we've overcome every Champ that people had histrionics over. So feel free to flail your arms in the air. I'm sure the game will survive. If it was game-breaking, he wouldn't be left in the game in his current state.
I highly disagree with this. I don’t know if you’ve ever tuned into a livestream but devs have openly admitted they don’t have the skill or play in high tier stakes or end game. A lot of the content creators that do play higher tier and hit celestial have made comments about how disgusting and busted of a defender Serpent is. I would trust the word of celestial tier, tier 1 war content creators more than I ever would the devs. If the devs want to call me out and say I’m wrong that’s fine but they never come out and talk about their viewpoint on the game. I see the content creators daily doing the BG grinds, the war grinds, and creating tier lists for everyone so I 100% take their word that Serpent is busted over thinking the devs know 100% what’s healthy for the game.
You're mistaken. There are Devs that play at high levels. To say they don't know their own game is just plain ignorant.
Ok so I guess the content creators that play daily at a high level are just wrong?
The rebalancing program basically only exists to stop another Hercules from happening in the game, with only a couple scenarios where it's been useful such as with Shuri. This decision feels very predatory ngl, because most likely later this year, they'll release a perfect serpent counter that shuts off everything he does, and a lot of people will probably spend some money so that they don't have to deal with serpent anymore.
Pretty sure someone from Kabam said that's not happening and they acknowledged the situation with Galan and Peni where he made her completely irrelevant on defense was too much, can't remember if it was Crashed or DLL or someone else but I'm 99% sure someone said it in a livestream.
If that's true then it's sort of comforting i guess. Btw do you have any idea when this was said? Because just this year kabam released patriot (perfect photon counter) and negasonic (perfect bullseye counter). And i know that these 2 champs aren't considered to be the best in the game by any means, but the fact is that they basically shut off any mechanics that make those defenders tough at all.
It was DLL who said it in one of his recent streams, probably around a week or so ago? Not sure exactly when but that’s about when I heard it
Thanks, wasn't sure if it was DLL or Crashed I'm glad someone was able to confirm.
Wow. I can’t believe Kabam has decided Serpent isn’t overturned and ridiculous. No changes to how he interacts with nodes and no changes to be able to take him down with more competitive scores. The rebalance program is a farce and a joke.
The rebalance program was never indicated to be a nerf machine. It's entirely dependent on what their goals for specific Champs are, and they've never severely altered any Champs since the current program has begun. Some Champs are just stronger than others at some aspects, and that's always been the case. I've seen a number of Champs that have been called too powerful over the years, and within 6 months time, people were so used to fighting them that they were scarcely challenging anymore.
GW back to harvesting disagrees I see.
Anyways, let me point out the obvious (for most people who actually play the game at least). No defender who has ever been called too powerful since the game's inception was objectively as powerful as Serpent is, you're out of your mind.
That's dramatic.
There are players that are better at the game than you'll ever be and they're saying the exact same things, nothing about this is dramatic, this is the most overpowered defender we have ever had in the game hands down and anyone who thinks otherwise is either just sucking off the devs or plays the game once a week.
I think the most frustrating part is I expect them to not listen to the community. There was a little backlash over bullseye and photon not being changed, but serpent is on a whole other level. The posts made within the last few weeks already prove that. But I guess their DaTa is fully accurate and shows that serpent is super balanced and fair 🤓
Lmao I'm willing to bet their data shows he wasn't getting many kills in BGs, not because he sucks but because he's banned 9 times out of 10. I truly don't expect anything from Kabam anymore this year, this has to be possibly one of the worst years for mcoc, not the worst but one of. Some might disagree, some might agree, but personally it has been nothing but disappointment for me since February.
It’s wild for how high of a peak we had in 2023 for 2024 to end up like this. Lately this game has done nothing but test my tolerance. Successes like crucible have been what’s kept me interested, but this isn’t helping.
Crucible was definitely a W and EOP has been a W for the most part so far as well, other stuff like the Trader's Outpost and the Super Event have also been great but the Ls have far outweighed the Ws. The bugs, some of the horrendous BGs metas we had, and most of all the champ releases I literally can't remember the last time I was excited about an attacker, I think it was Kushala last year.
We are getting multiple rebalances soon too and I’m excited to see all the coming content. If this year had great champs I could maybe look past the recurring AI issues and bugs but I feel like that’s truly what’s holding this year back
I know Shathra is going to be a must have though. Guarantee she turns serpent into a piece of trash lmao. White Tiger was probably the last champ I was truly happy for. Oh and BRB too, but i don’t think I’ll be using him much for bg
I'm excited for the content, buffs as well cause they haven't disappointed but everything else I really don't care about.
As for Shathra, she looks like a pure attacker based on those easy to dex specials but I don't think there will ever be such thing as a hard Serpent counter unless it's a very slow like Negasonic with Bullseye and Patriot with Photon. DLL said they don't want another Galan Peni situation ever again, so that door has already been closed.
But if she can counter him and end at full health, we can be satisfied. But we aren’t sure yet
The rebalancing program basically only exists to stop another Hercules from happening in the game, with only a couple scenarios where it's been useful such as with Shuri. This decision feels very predatory ngl, because most likely later this year, they'll release a perfect serpent counter that shuts off everything he does, and a lot of people will probably spend some money so that they don't have to deal with serpent anymore.
Pretty sure someone from Kabam said that's not happening and they acknowledged the situation with Galan and Peni where he made her completely irrelevant on defense was too much, can't remember if it was Crashed or DLL or someone else but I'm 99% sure someone said it in a livestream.
If that's true then it's sort of comforting i guess. Btw do you have any idea when this was said? Because just this year kabam released patriot (perfect photon counter) and negasonic (perfect bullseye counter). And i know that these 2 champs aren't considered to be the best in the game by any means, but the fact is that they basically shut off any mechanics that make those defenders tough at all.
It was DLL who said it in one of his recent streams, probably around a week or so ago? Not sure exactly when but that’s about when I heard it
Thanks, wasn't sure if it was DLL or Crashed I'm glad someone was able to confirm.
Wow. I can’t believe Kabam has decided Serpent isn’t overturned and ridiculous. No changes to how he interacts with nodes and no changes to be able to take him down with more competitive scores. The rebalance program is a farce and a joke.
The rebalance program was never indicated to be a nerf machine. It's entirely dependent on what their goals for specific Champs are, and they've never severely altered any Champs since the current program has begun. Some Champs are just stronger than others at some aspects, and that's always been the case. I've seen a number of Champs that have been called too powerful over the years, and within 6 months time, people were so used to fighting them that they were scarcely challenging anymore.
GW back to harvesting disagrees I see.
Anyways, let me point out the obvious (for most people who actually play the game at least). No defender who has ever been called too powerful since the game's inception was objectively as powerful as Serpent is, you're out of your mind.
That's dramatic.
There are players that are better at the game than you'll ever be and they're saying the exact same things, nothing about this is dramatic, this is the most overpowered defender we have ever had in the game hands down and anyone who thinks otherwise is either just sucking off the devs or plays the game once a week.
I think the most frustrating part is I expect them to not listen to the community. There was a little backlash over bullseye and photon not being changed, but serpent is on a whole other level. The posts made within the last few weeks already prove that. But I guess their DaTa is fully accurate and shows that serpent is super balanced and fair 🤓
Lmao I'm willing to bet their data shows he wasn't getting many kills in BGs, not because he sucks but because he's banned 9 times out of 10. I truly don't expect anything from Kabam anymore this year, this has to be possibly one of the worst years for mcoc, not the worst but one of. Some might disagree, some might agree, but personally it has been nothing but disappointment for me since February.
It’s wild for how high of a peak we had in 2023 for 2024 to end up like this. Lately this game has done nothing but test my tolerance. Successes like crucible have been what’s kept me interested, but this isn’t helping.
Crucible was definitely a W and EOP has been a W for the most part so far as well, other stuff like the Trader's Outpost and the Super Event have also been great but the Ls have far outweighed the Ws. The bugs, some of the horrendous BGs metas we had, and most of all the champ releases I literally can't remember the last time I was excited about an attacker, I think it was Kushala last year.
We are getting multiple rebalances soon too and I’m excited to see all the coming content. If this year had great champs I could maybe look past the recurring AI issues and bugs but I feel like that’s truly what’s holding this year back
I know Shathra is going to be a must have though. Guarantee she turns serpent into a piece of trash lmao. White Tiger was probably the last champ I was truly happy for. Oh and BRB too, but i don’t think I’ll be using him much for bg
I'm excited for the content, buffs as well cause they haven't disappointed but everything else I really don't care about.
As for Shathra, she looks like a pure attacker based on those easy to dex specials but I don't think there will ever be such thing as a hard Serpent counter unless it's a very slow like Negasonic with Bullseye and Patriot with Photon. DLL said they don't want another Galan Peni situation ever again, so that door has already been closed.
But if she can counter him and end at full health, we can be satisfied. But we aren’t sure yet
I wouldn't be satisfied, I can already do that with Chavez and Kushala they're just very slow.
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How exactly do you suggest overcoming all the bs he has in his kit when virtually no champ in the game can fully counter him. This is different to the complaints we got when Korg Peni and Thing came to the game, all three could be countered with skills alones, Serpent can't.
I never said the game was dying, I'm simply calling you out for being the white knight as per usual when you can clearly see the vast majority of the forums are not happy with the decision they've made.
I’d say Serpent is the defensive equivalent of domino back in her day. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I think crit fail was unavoidable damage and the tech class was mostly cheeks and couldn’t do much to her. I guess we’ll have to wait until 2026 to say “oh at least we have a few hard serpent counters now” lmao. Kabam absolutely deserves the backlash for this decision
I truly don't expect anything from Kabam anymore this year, this has to be possibly one of the worst years for mcoc, not the worst but one of. Some might disagree, some might agree, but personally it has been nothing but disappointment for me since February.
However we can only hope for the best, and hope that the next mystics released can counter him
Champ releases = easily one of the worst. 2023 was so peak
Content = nah it’s been great. Crucible and EOP stuff has been fair and fun instead of revive fests
That’s my take though. I’ve loved a lot of the content and stuff like the daily super and rebalances, I just think the champ releases are so garbage
This would have been an easy win, most suggestions were incredibly reasonable and would have kept him as a challenging meta defender. But ego and hubris seem to have carried the day.
For me the bad = most new champ releases, bugs, AI garbage, certain metas
Good = great new endgame content, great rebalances, daily super and more rewards in general, saga chases and the bonus rewards have been very nice.
• Make death immunity a flat 100% chance to trigger so non-Rintrah neutralize is at least a perfectly reliable answer to it instead of a 25% chance you just lose.
• Make his buff duration unaffected by nodes so that things like extend don’t make him pretty much unplayable to fight against.
• Reduce the ability power rate cap to 0% so you can at least control the power gain. You can’t invert it so he never throws specials but you can a least shut it off then.
• Cut the power gain and regen on death immunity a bit so he isn’t threatening to kill you with a sp3 if he decides to turtle for 2 seconds.
• Reduce his starting dread or its effects so he’s not quite as tanky, even if he still threatens to snowball and kill if you don’t play well and act fast with a good counter.
Doing any one (and just one) of those would’ve probably still left him comfortably the best defender in the game (maybe Enchantress will take that spot, I’m doubtful but we’ll see I guess). Maybe he’d even still be largely bs. But it’d at least be an indication like with Bullseye that they had gone maybe a little overboard, that they heard everyone’s complaints across all skill levels that he’s too much and a stressful chore to fight. Instead it’s hard to not feel like they’re burying their heads in the sand and hoping that people will just forget their misgivings as if they don’t have to fight against him every day in the bg and war grind.
I know Shathra is going to be a must have though. Guarantee she turns serpent into a piece of trash lmao. White Tiger was probably the last champ I was truly happy for. Oh and BRB too, but i don’t think I’ll be using him much for bg
To be honest, it isn't my decision. Nor is it yours, or the content creators. It's Kabam's decision based on how they want certain Champs to perform, which is why I said as much. Feedback is important, yes. Ultimately the decision is theirs. They're not blind to the game. If they said they're not touching him because he's performing as they intended, then that's pretty self-explanatory.
As for Shathra, she looks like a pure attacker based on those easy to dex specials but I don't think there will ever be such thing as a hard Serpent counter unless it's a very slow like Negasonic with Bullseye and Patriot with Photon. DLL said they don't want another Galan Peni situation ever again, so that door has already been closed.