All of a sudden y'all like photon now like y'all weren't begging kabam to nerf her when she newly came out. And saying her undexable specials were "UNHEALTHY" for the game. As if y'all weren't also complaining about onslaughts unavoidable damage. But now they're just "challenging" and okay???
Y'all were saying the same thing bout bullseye and his INSANE block pen, instant bleeds and LONG ASS killer instinct but up to a few months ago I started seeing forum users saying he's "OKAY" and can be taken with bleed immunes during the time that serpent rebalancing info was released and people were comparing serpent to bullseye It really pissed me off when y'all try to act like these defenders are fine when a more difficult one comes along. Bullseye IS NOT EASY AT ALL.
Also, I know I'm in the minority but, I really don't see anything wrong with kabam capitalizing off counters to terrible defenders. Every champion has to bring in their fair amount of money and have something that people who spend money want. Each champion must be unique in some way or have something captivating that attracts spenders. In this case, a counter to a tough defender.
I do agree serpent should've been nerfed and is definitely BROKEN. His kit has TOOO MUCH going on but if there's an opportunity to make money of a counter then what's the problem??? CLASSIC SMART BUSINESS MOVE. Can't hate innovative entrepreneurs for making INNOVATIVE DECISIONS.
This game doesn't run off love, affection and online support. I also really dislike the VOCAL "F2P" keyboard warrior players spamming the "create the problem/disease, sell the cure/solution" on every defender/counter post. YOU LITERALLY DO NOTHING TO SUPPORT THE GAME. Stop trying to make people who spend feel guilty for purchasing what they feel interested in.
Also the ENTITLED F2P players complaining and demanding to get the same rewards as frequent spenders. IF IM READY TO DROP THAT LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY I BETTER GET MY WORTH.
This game is one of the most F2P friendly games I've ever played and kabam have been SO GENEROUS with the rewards meaning a F2P can progress very quickly and reach end game player status quite easily and y'all are not going to pretend like they haven't.
This game runs off money. LET the spenders spend and get their money's worth and let the company MAKE MONEY and keep the game running without feeling entitled and like you were robbed. Thank you very much for this long read.
this got more disagrees than it should have.
everyone will be chasing spiral and probably dazzler now. we feel bad and left out, either because our spending bracket doesn't let us get a good shot at her or because we r3'd serpent and bullseye, but whatever the reason this design philosophy keeps the game alive and whether we know it or not, actually motivates us to play and or spend more.
the game needs new problems that we can't just run over with the 50 different copies of champs that already covers every problem. we need new stuff.
Cmon man you used this same argument in the serpent rebalancing thread repeatedly and it’s been refuted both there and here.
Tell me why this strategy wouldn’t have worked if serpent was at a balanced level but still the top defender in the game? You think people wouldn’t want a hard counter to the top defender? But at least that way we don’t deal with all the problems and unbalanced defender brings to the game.
fair...
you guys bring up a good point that decks are just repeating onslaught, bullseye, serpent ad nauseam and that there used to be a lot more variance to bgs, so i don't know how to respond to that.
BGs isn't very fun like it was last year. whoever gets those defenders basically wins and there used to be more variance back then. now it's whoever gets those defenders and their counters wins.
This exactly. It goes further than just fighting the same defenders too, because like I said champs like serpent and bullseye have no nuance whatsoever, so the only way to deal with them is to use a counter. That means I have to use the same select counters over and over again because nobody else works. There’s no element of being able to creatively work around the problem, because the punishment is simply unavoidable damage.
Defenders are supposed to be problems that you learn to solve through a creative and interactive approach. The fun part of defenders is presenting a challenge that you have to use your talents and creativity to overcome, but serpent and bullseye are different. They don’t let you come up with a solution, they look at 80% of the solutions that would normally work and say “erm ackshually no” with some bs line in their kits. This is what leads to the lack of variety problem, the fact that there’s nothing the player can do to solve the problems they present except “git lucky.”
I feel so strongly about this issue because it genuinely has sucked out the fun I got from bgs. I don’t want to rely on luck, I don’t even want to win because my luck was better, that feels unearned. I want to prove why I got that win or understand that I lost to someone who was simply better than me, and not simply luckier. I don’t think that’s asking for too much.
I want to double like this post, cuddle it and let it be the big spoon. 💯💯💯
I hope Kabam really sees this as what it’s meant to be. Constructive criticism from a friend because they care, not simply complaining, because it ain’t that.
People who care tell you there’s broccoli in your teeth. And that’s what the likes of Serpent and Bullseye are to the defender rotation and the game.
If Spiral and Dazzler are any indication then turning off the Dex mastery to dodge seems to be the response but I doubt that’s healthy long term
How is that not healthy? Turning off dex to dodge can actually be a good thing, for example when fighting mystics they won't benefit much from MD.
Well because it will create essentially a divide between every good attacker designed before Serpent, and after Serpent.
Essentially creating a hard divide of BS vs AS champs. While you raise a good question as it might not actually be bad, it seems like they e painted themselves into a design corner as any attacker lacking this characteristic in an AS world is immediately deemed less useful and would be considered a BS attacker.
Bro is living up to their pfp
Don’t worry I’m sure to follow it up with something dumb in the near future
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