State of game (Terrible)

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  • klobberintymeklobberintyme Member Posts: 1,583 ★★★★

    So I know little Kabam heroes are going to disagree with this and defend Kabam to the grave but the game is trash right now and it is majorly down to Kabams outright Lazyness.

    It's the Valiants who will be filling up your Christmas bonus' not those who started 6-months ago, adhere to them on monthly basis not just once every 6-months with some big content that is completed the same day

    2 things

    1) *laziness.

    2) "Valiants" are the hardcores who've already sunk time/ money/ both into the game. Their checks have been cashed. They're the proven least likely to leave. The money is always in the POTENTIALS who want to join the "Valiants/upper crust/cool kids/elite." It's why there's Alliance / organized systemic peer pressure built into the game, to shame certain players into actions they wouldn't take on their own. Ask the resident Game Economist, he'll tell you if done right, the alienated hardcore (you) will be replaced by the next wave of newly- minted hardcore, and you don't get there unless you have a big pool of noob wannabes every fiscal quarter. It's a beautiful cycle.

    This is business everywhere. Is X popular media personality telling themselves I'm good with my Y amount of paid subs, I don't need more or are they finding every possible way to get into the algorithm for new unpaid subs?

    The ten year old live service mobile game has issues. Hardcores can complain. Most others would have the sense to just move on from an unpleasant experience and never come close to replacing the departed hardcore. Now that's the argument for game stabilization I'd have run with.


  • WhiteKnightWhiteKnight Member Posts: 670 ★★★★

    Disrespecting and personal attacks are okay as long as it is done by demonzfyre, right?

    I don't pay enough attention to them to know if this is a frequent thing they do but I take back my re

    So I know little Kabam heroes are going to disagree with this and defend Kabam to the grave but the game is trash right now and it is majorly down to Kabams outright Lazyness.

    It's the Valiants who will be filling up your Christmas bonus' not those who started 6-months ago, adhere to them on monthly basis not just once every 6-months with some big content that is completed the same day

    2 things

    1) *laziness.

    2) "Valiants" are the hardcores who've already sunk time/ money/ both into the game. Their checks have been cashed. They're the proven least likely to leave. The money is always in the POTENTIALS who want to join the "Valiants/upper crust/cool kids/elite." It's why there's Alliance / organized systemic peer pressure built into the game, to shame certain players into actions they wouldn't take on their own. Ask the resident Game Economist, he'll tell you if done right, the alienated hardcore (you) will be replaced by the next wave of newly- minted hardcore, and you don't get there unless you have a big pool of noob wannabes every fiscal quarter. It's a beautiful cycle.

    This is business everywhere. Is X popular media personality telling themselves I'm good with my Y amount of paid subs, I don't need more or are they finding every possible way to get into the algorithm for new unpaid subs?

    The ten year old live service mobile game has issues. Hardcores can complain. Most others would have the sense to just move on from an unpleasant experience and never come close to replacing the departed hardcore. Now that's the argument for game stabilization I'd have run with.


    I rely too much on my phones aut correct and sometimes it doesn't work 🤦‍♂️

    I disagree with checks have been cashed, with fresh offers drop almost monthly now, big spend events like cyber and banquet around the corner variants are the ones that are going to open up and throw more money at the game than new players; new players maybe join where they're Valiant but it's valiants that keep spending, keep paying more and more

    If we all paid the same then sure, but as a valiant who openly spends, I can almost guarantee i will be spending more over the next two months than any new players will 😅
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,050 ★★★★★
    edited November 19

    Disrespecting and personal attacks are okay as long as it is done by demonzfyre, right?

    So you're saying it's ok if you or OP does it but I can't do it?
  • WhiteKnightWhiteKnight Member Posts: 670 ★★★★

    Asher1_1 said:

    Terrible - that's just your opinion 😂

    Just like I can say your opinion is Terrible

    It's literally their personality. OP just lacks attention from their mom at home and comes here, writes posts like this just for people to pay attention to them. It's also why they put "Kabam Hero's" in the first paragraph. He wants to stir the pot on purpose for the attention.

    Basically they're a entitled little brat who doesn't get told no enough at home.
    Don't attack people who haven't said anything wrong in their post. That's called targeted hate
    Nah. It's just OP being OP. This isn't constructive criticism on OPs part. They aren't interested giving actual feedback and there's none here. It boils down to they hate the rewards and the game is boring.

    OP doesn't want improvement anyway. His post history tells you that is just what they do.
    Idk maybe you haven't finished school so reading isn't completely up there yet so I'll let it slide.

    But, everything I've said I've said how to improve it 🤣 SQ, EQ update the content and rewards. BG nodes are terrible, do better and update rewards. Release more content like necropolis, Crucible, more frequent story content

    It's all there
    I'm sorry but you think "update the content and rewards" is constructive feedback?

    "Do better and update rewards" oh yeah, that's super helpful. I mean, can feedback get better than that at all? I don't think anyone can top that one. With those 2 suggestions, the devs will definitely improve.

    Again, you probably live a sheltered life. You obviously have no idea what it takes to create content. There's reasons why we beta test story content 6 months before it's released.

    I don't expect you to understand because your vocabulary is limited to "content bad, rewards bad".
    Okay you want me to spell out and come up with the nodes here?

    Cool, EQ make Gauntelt standard for Paragon plus so you run it the same as now but don't need to 100% tb first and add the same for Valiant, gauntlet again with t4a, titan shards but lock this behind paragauntlet

    BG avoid the power gain metas, it highlights issues with AI and makes it much less enjoyable. Have dot focus nodes, power shield, armour burn etc. For rewards, have a noticeable gap between Quantum and uru, give Celestial places BIG rewards, like better rewards than solo or alliance objectives, maybe some T4a or a chase champ like in war. For the store, needs t4a, titan shards, 7* sigs and a BG crystal would be awesome too with 6 OP BG champs

    There, pretty damn easy and took me 60-seconds to think whilst doing my own job 😂
    This is better but just shows you don't understand Kabams rewards economy. They've only explained it a couple hundred times so probably easy to have missed.

    They have a set amount of rewards that they're allowed to use to keep the game from tilting one way or the other. They can't just add a new gauntlet without taking something away. Just like when they added TB difficulty, they removed a difficulty level.

    I don't know why you're so proud of yourself. Just spouting off "increase rewards, lower difficulty in BGs" isn't good feedback either. It definitely shows you took 60 seconds because there's very little thought behind your suggestions.
    This whole budgetted allowance of rewards is bull when you see exactly how much more you can purchase on a monthly basis, not to mention sales events.... hell the guy who won realm BG was rewarded more rewards than anyone else in game this year and the guy who spends the most at banquet will too

    I'm sorry, we're you dropped as a child? Repeatedly? I literally put some node suggestions AND rewards and store improvements 🤦‍♂️

    Kabam don't pay me to sit down and workout the exact fixes they need, the whole point is for them to take feedback and respond with a plan of action. Seriously, are you still in school? Do you not understand what a job is or soemthingM what these guys get paid a livable wage for?
  • WhiteKnightWhiteKnight Member Posts: 670 ★★★★
    Donavans said:

    I came back after 3 years of not playing and my mind was BLOWN at how much was new! I think they are doing a great job.

    Taking a break like that and coming back there are HUGE improvement and 3 years to catch up on but for is who have stayed around we're out of content 💔
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,050 ★★★★★

    Asher1_1 said:

    Terrible - that's just your opinion 😂

    Just like I can say your opinion is Terrible

    It's literally their personality. OP just lacks attention from their mom at home and comes here, writes posts like this just for people to pay attention to them. It's also why they put "Kabam Hero's" in the first paragraph. He wants to stir the pot on purpose for the attention.

    Basically they're a entitled little brat who doesn't get told no enough at home.
    Don't attack people who haven't said anything wrong in their post. That's called targeted hate
    Nah. It's just OP being OP. This isn't constructive criticism on OPs part. They aren't interested giving actual feedback and there's none here. It boils down to they hate the rewards and the game is boring.

    OP doesn't want improvement anyway. His post history tells you that is just what they do.
    Idk maybe you haven't finished school so reading isn't completely up there yet so I'll let it slide.

    But, everything I've said I've said how to improve it 🤣 SQ, EQ update the content and rewards. BG nodes are terrible, do better and update rewards. Release more content like necropolis, Crucible, more frequent story content

    It's all there
    I'm sorry but you think "update the content and rewards" is constructive feedback?

    "Do better and update rewards" oh yeah, that's super helpful. I mean, can feedback get better than that at all? I don't think anyone can top that one. With those 2 suggestions, the devs will definitely improve.

    Again, you probably live a sheltered life. You obviously have no idea what it takes to create content. There's reasons why we beta test story content 6 months before it's released.

    I don't expect you to understand because your vocabulary is limited to "content bad, rewards bad".
    Okay you want me to spell out and come up with the nodes here?

    Cool, EQ make Gauntelt standard for Paragon plus so you run it the same as now but don't need to 100% tb first and add the same for Valiant, gauntlet again with t4a, titan shards but lock this behind paragauntlet

    BG avoid the power gain metas, it highlights issues with AI and makes it much less enjoyable. Have dot focus nodes, power shield, armour burn etc. For rewards, have a noticeable gap between Quantum and uru, give Celestial places BIG rewards, like better rewards than solo or alliance objectives, maybe some T4a or a chase champ like in war. For the store, needs t4a, titan shards, 7* sigs and a BG crystal would be awesome too with 6 OP BG champs

    There, pretty damn easy and took me 60-seconds to think whilst doing my own job 😂
    This is better but just shows you don't understand Kabams rewards economy. They've only explained it a couple hundred times so probably easy to have missed.

    They have a set amount of rewards that they're allowed to use to keep the game from tilting one way or the other. They can't just add a new gauntlet without taking something away. Just like when they added TB difficulty, they removed a difficulty level.

    I don't know why you're so proud of yourself. Just spouting off "increase rewards, lower difficulty in BGs" isn't good feedback either. It definitely shows you took 60 seconds because there's very little thought behind your suggestions.
    This whole budgetted allowance of rewards is bull when you see exactly how much more you can purchase on a monthly basis, not to mention sales events.... hell the guy who won realm BG was rewarded more rewards than anyone else in game this year and the guy who spends the most at banquet will too

    I'm sorry, we're you dropped as a child? Repeatedly? I literally put some node suggestions AND rewards and store improvements 🤦‍♂️

    Kabam don't pay me to sit down and workout the exact fixes they need, the whole point is for them to take feedback and respond with a plan of action. Seriously, are you still in school? Do you not understand what a job is or soemthingM what these guys get paid a livable wage for?
    Because the rewards budge plans for all of that..... that's why it's a BUDGET.
  • WhiteKnightWhiteKnight Member Posts: 670 ★★★★
    Graves_3 said:

    Asher1_1 said:

    Terrible - that's just your opinion 😂

    Just like I can say your opinion is Terrible

    It's literally their personality. OP just lacks attention from their mom at home and comes here, writes posts like this just for people to pay attention to them. It's also why they put "Kabam Hero's" in the first paragraph. He wants to stir the pot on purpose for the attention.

    Basically they're a entitled little brat who doesn't get told no enough at home.
    Don't attack people who haven't said anything wrong in their post. That's called targeted hate
    Nah. It's just OP being OP. This isn't constructive criticism on OPs part. They aren't interested giving actual feedback and there's none here. It boils down to they hate the rewards and the game is boring.

    OP doesn't want improvement anyway. His post history tells you that is just what they do.
    Idk maybe you haven't finished school so reading isn't completely up there yet so I'll let it slide.

    But, everything I've said I've said how to improve it 🤣 SQ, EQ update the content and rewards. BG nodes are terrible, do better and update rewards. Release more content like necropolis, Crucible, more frequent story content

    It's all there
    I'm sorry but you think "update the content and rewards" is constructive feedback?

    "Do better and update rewards" oh yeah, that's super helpful. I mean, can feedback get better than that at all? I don't think anyone can top that one. With those 2 suggestions, the devs will definitely improve.

    Again, you probably live a sheltered life. You obviously have no idea what it takes to create content. There's reasons why we beta test story content 6 months before it's released.

    I don't expect you to understand because your vocabulary is limited to "content bad, rewards bad".
    Okay you want me to spell out and come up with the nodes here?

    Cool, EQ make Gauntelt standard for Paragon plus so you run it the same as now but don't need to 100% tb first and add the same for Valiant, gauntlet again with t4a, titan shards but lock this behind paragauntlet

    BG avoid the power gain metas, it highlights issues with AI and makes it much less enjoyable. Have dot focus nodes, power shield, armour burn etc. For rewards, have a noticeable gap between Quantum and uru, give Celestial places BIG rewards, like better rewards than solo or alliance objectives, maybe some T4a or a chase champ like in war. For the store, needs t4a, titan shards, 7* sigs and a BG crystal would be awesome too with 6 OP BG champs

    There, pretty damn easy and took me 60-seconds to think whilst doing my own job 😂
    This is better but just shows you don't understand Kabams rewards economy. They've only explained it a couple hundred times so probably easy to have missed.

    They have a set amount of rewards that they're allowed to use to keep the game from tilting one way or the other. They can't just add a new gauntlet without taking something away. Just like when they added TB difficulty, they removed a difficulty level.

    I don't know why you're so proud of yourself. Just spouting off "increase rewards, lower difficulty in BGs" isn't good feedback either. It definitely shows you took 60 seconds because there's very little thought behind your suggestions.
    This whole budgetted allowance of rewards is bull when you see exactly how much more you can purchase on a monthly basis, not to mention sales events.... hell the guy who won realm BG was rewarded more rewards than anyone else in game this year and the guy who spends the most at banquet will too

    I'm sorry, we're you dropped as a child? Repeatedly? I literally put some node suggestions AND rewards and store improvements 🤦‍♂️

    Kabam don't pay me to sit down and workout the exact fixes they need, the whole point is for them to take feedback and respond with a plan of action. Seriously, are you still in school? Do you not understand what a job is or soemthingM what these guys get paid a livable wage for?
    You don’t need to respond to them. They have habit of moving goal posts. You write a post they say it’s not constructive. You add more by giving more specific changes, they say it’s not enough. You now get more detailed, they say it’s maybe little constructive. If you sit down and write a detailed plan with nodes/defenders/rewards for each mode, they will ask you to go apply for a job at kabam and do it if you are so good. It’s just a never ending cycle of personal insults.
    Feels like this exact thread I'll be honest 😂
  • kvirrkvirr Member Posts: 390 ★★★
    a lot of people on forums disagree with my takes, ( I have over 100 abuse tags ) but damn this thread is INTENSE
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,050 ★★★★★
    Graves_3 said:

    Asher1_1 said:

    Terrible - that's just your opinion 😂

    Just like I can say your opinion is Terrible

    It's literally their personality. OP just lacks attention from their mom at home and comes here, writes posts like this just for people to pay attention to them. It's also why they put "Kabam Hero's" in the first paragraph. He wants to stir the pot on purpose for the attention.

    Basically they're a entitled little brat who doesn't get told no enough at home.
    Don't attack people who haven't said anything wrong in their post. That's called targeted hate
    Nah. It's just OP being OP. This isn't constructive criticism on OPs part. They aren't interested giving actual feedback and there's none here. It boils down to they hate the rewards and the game is boring.

    OP doesn't want improvement anyway. His post history tells you that is just what they do.
    Idk maybe you haven't finished school so reading isn't completely up there yet so I'll let it slide.

    But, everything I've said I've said how to improve it 🤣 SQ, EQ update the content and rewards. BG nodes are terrible, do better and update rewards. Release more content like necropolis, Crucible, more frequent story content

    It's all there
    I'm sorry but you think "update the content and rewards" is constructive feedback?

    "Do better and update rewards" oh yeah, that's super helpful. I mean, can feedback get better than that at all? I don't think anyone can top that one. With those 2 suggestions, the devs will definitely improve.

    Again, you probably live a sheltered life. You obviously have no idea what it takes to create content. There's reasons why we beta test story content 6 months before it's released.

    I don't expect you to understand because your vocabulary is limited to "content bad, rewards bad".
    Okay you want me to spell out and come up with the nodes here?

    Cool, EQ make Gauntelt standard for Paragon plus so you run it the same as now but don't need to 100% tb first and add the same for Valiant, gauntlet again with t4a, titan shards but lock this behind paragauntlet

    BG avoid the power gain metas, it highlights issues with AI and makes it much less enjoyable. Have dot focus nodes, power shield, armour burn etc. For rewards, have a noticeable gap between Quantum and uru, give Celestial places BIG rewards, like better rewards than solo or alliance objectives, maybe some T4a or a chase champ like in war. For the store, needs t4a, titan shards, 7* sigs and a BG crystal would be awesome too with 6 OP BG champs

    There, pretty damn easy and took me 60-seconds to think whilst doing my own job 😂
    This is better but just shows you don't understand Kabams rewards economy. They've only explained it a couple hundred times so probably easy to have missed.

    They have a set amount of rewards that they're allowed to use to keep the game from tilting one way or the other. They can't just add a new gauntlet without taking something away. Just like when they added TB difficulty, they removed a difficulty level.

    I don't know why you're so proud of yourself. Just spouting off "increase rewards, lower difficulty in BGs" isn't good feedback either. It definitely shows you took 60 seconds because there's very little thought behind your suggestions.
    This whole budgetted allowance of rewards is bull when you see exactly how much more you can purchase on a monthly basis, not to mention sales events.... hell the guy who won realm BG was rewarded more rewards than anyone else in game this year and the guy who spends the most at banquet will too

    I'm sorry, we're you dropped as a child? Repeatedly? I literally put some node suggestions AND rewards and store improvements 🤦‍♂️

    Kabam don't pay me to sit down and workout the exact fixes they need, the whole point is for them to take feedback and respond with a plan of action. Seriously, are you still in school? Do you not understand what a job is or soemthingM what these guys get paid a livable wage for?
    You don’t need to respond to them. They have habit of moving goal posts. You write a post they say it’s not constructive. You add more by giving more specific changes, they say it’s not enough. You now get more detailed, they say it’s maybe little constructive. If you sit down and write a detailed plan with nodes/defenders/rewards for each mode, they will ask you to go apply for a job at kabam and do it if you are so good. It’s just a never ending cycle of personal insults.
    It's not moving the goal posts when the following response didn't hit the first goalpost.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 5,953 ★★★★★

    Asher1_1 said:

    Terrible - that's just your opinion 😂

    Just like I can say your opinion is Terrible

    It's literally their personality. OP just lacks attention from their mom at home and comes here, writes posts like this just for people to pay attention to them. It's also why they put "Kabam Hero's" in the first paragraph. He wants to stir the pot on purpose for the attention.

    Basically they're a entitled little brat who doesn't get told no enough at home.
    Don't attack people who haven't said anything wrong in their post. That's called targeted hate
    Nah. It's just OP being OP. This isn't constructive criticism on OPs part. They aren't interested giving actual feedback and there's none here. It boils down to they hate the rewards and the game is boring.

    OP doesn't want improvement anyway. His post history tells you that is just what they do.
    Idk maybe you haven't finished school so reading isn't completely up there yet so I'll let it slide.

    But, everything I've said I've said how to improve it 🤣 SQ, EQ update the content and rewards. BG nodes are terrible, do better and update rewards. Release more content like necropolis, Crucible, more frequent story content

    It's all there
    I'm sorry but you think "update the content and rewards" is constructive feedback?

    "Do better and update rewards" oh yeah, that's super helpful. I mean, can feedback get better than that at all? I don't think anyone can top that one. With those 2 suggestions, the devs will definitely improve.

    Again, you probably live a sheltered life. You obviously have no idea what it takes to create content. There's reasons why we beta test story content 6 months before it's released.

    I don't expect you to understand because your vocabulary is limited to "content bad, rewards bad".
    Okay you want me to spell out and come up with the nodes here?

    Cool, EQ make Gauntelt standard for Paragon plus so you run it the same as now but don't need to 100% tb first and add the same for Valiant, gauntlet again with t4a, titan shards but lock this behind paragauntlet

    BG avoid the power gain metas, it highlights issues with AI and makes it much less enjoyable. Have dot focus nodes, power shield, armour burn etc. For rewards, have a noticeable gap between Quantum and uru, give Celestial places BIG rewards, like better rewards than solo or alliance objectives, maybe some T4a or a chase champ like in war. For the store, needs t4a, titan shards, 7* sigs and a BG crystal would be awesome too with 6 OP BG champs

    There, pretty damn easy and took me 60-seconds to think whilst doing my own job 😂
    This is better but just shows you don't understand Kabams rewards economy. They've only explained it a couple hundred times so probably easy to have missed.

    They have a set amount of rewards that they're allowed to use to keep the game from tilting one way or the other. They can't just add a new gauntlet without taking something away. Just like when they added TB difficulty, they removed a difficulty level.

    I don't know why you're so proud of yourself. Just spouting off "increase rewards, lower difficulty in BGs" isn't good feedback either. It definitely shows you took 60 seconds because there's very little thought behind your suggestions.
    This whole budgetted allowance of rewards is bull when you see exactly how much more you can purchase on a monthly basis, not to mention sales events.... hell the guy who won realm BG was rewarded more rewards than anyone else in game this year and the guy who spends the most at banquet will too

    I'm sorry, we're you dropped as a child? Repeatedly? I literally put some node suggestions AND rewards and store improvements 🤦‍♂️

    Kabam don't pay me to sit down and workout the exact fixes they need, the whole point is for them to take feedback and respond with a plan of action. Seriously, are you still in school? Do you not understand what a job is or soemthingM what these guys get paid a livable wage for?
    Because the rewards budge plans for all of that..... that's why it's a BUDGET.
    You realise this isn't a real thing right? Nothing in this game is real... it's not like they have tangible limits and what they can and can't give out.

    This budget they swear by is meaningless, the idea is they give out restricted rewards to control the economy.... and they sell out more r3 materials in one weekend than a f2p player can obtain in 6 months 😂 it is not going to kill.the economy if they release harder content that comes with more 7* champions and more r3 mats, it's not going to break the economy if most people have 100 7* champs because they're chasing the new champs still, it's not going to break the economy if most people have 20+ r3's because the Whales will still have 3 times as many 😂 i remember what Karate Mike was dropping his 80th r3 video and I still had 5, 7 r3 can be the exact same, f2p have 10, spenders have 15-20 and Whales have 30+, more rewards will just shift it and people will start ranking up champs they enjoy rather than meta focus... it's pretty simple
    If it's meaningless, then why don't we have r6 7* or 8* yet?
  • WhiteKnightWhiteKnight Member Posts: 670 ★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    Asher1_1 said:

    Terrible - that's just your opinion 😂

    Just like I can say your opinion is Terrible

    It's literally their personality. OP just lacks attention from their mom at home and comes here, writes posts like this just for people to pay attention to them. It's also why they put "Kabam Hero's" in the first paragraph. He wants to stir the pot on purpose for the attention.

    Basically they're a entitled little brat who doesn't get told no enough at home.
    Don't attack people who haven't said anything wrong in their post. That's called targeted hate
    Nah. It's just OP being OP. This isn't constructive criticism on OPs part. They aren't interested giving actual feedback and there's none here. It boils down to they hate the rewards and the game is boring.

    OP doesn't want improvement anyway. His post history tells you that is just what they do.
    Idk maybe you haven't finished school so reading isn't completely up there yet so I'll let it slide.

    But, everything I've said I've said how to improve it 🤣 SQ, EQ update the content and rewards. BG nodes are terrible, do better and update rewards. Release more content like necropolis, Crucible, more frequent story content

    It's all there
    I'm sorry but you think "update the content and rewards" is constructive feedback?

    "Do better and update rewards" oh yeah, that's super helpful. I mean, can feedback get better than that at all? I don't think anyone can top that one. With those 2 suggestions, the devs will definitely improve.

    Again, you probably live a sheltered life. You obviously have no idea what it takes to create content. There's reasons why we beta test story content 6 months before it's released.

    I don't expect you to understand because your vocabulary is limited to "content bad, rewards bad".
    Okay you want me to spell out and come up with the nodes here?

    Cool, EQ make Gauntelt standard for Paragon plus so you run it the same as now but don't need to 100% tb first and add the same for Valiant, gauntlet again with t4a, titan shards but lock this behind paragauntlet

    BG avoid the power gain metas, it highlights issues with AI and makes it much less enjoyable. Have dot focus nodes, power shield, armour burn etc. For rewards, have a noticeable gap between Quantum and uru, give Celestial places BIG rewards, like better rewards than solo or alliance objectives, maybe some T4a or a chase champ like in war. For the store, needs t4a, titan shards, 7* sigs and a BG crystal would be awesome too with 6 OP BG champs

    There, pretty damn easy and took me 60-seconds to think whilst doing my own job 😂
    This is better but just shows you don't understand Kabams rewards economy. They've only explained it a couple hundred times so probably easy to have missed.

    They have a set amount of rewards that they're allowed to use to keep the game from tilting one way or the other. They can't just add a new gauntlet without taking something away. Just like when they added TB difficulty, they removed a difficulty level.

    I don't know why you're so proud of yourself. Just spouting off "increase rewards, lower difficulty in BGs" isn't good feedback either. It definitely shows you took 60 seconds because there's very little thought behind your suggestions.
    This whole budgetted allowance of rewards is bull when you see exactly how much more you can purchase on a monthly basis, not to mention sales events.... hell the guy who won realm BG was rewarded more rewards than anyone else in game this year and the guy who spends the most at banquet will too

    I'm sorry, we're you dropped as a child? Repeatedly? I literally put some node suggestions AND rewards and store improvements 🤦‍♂️

    Kabam don't pay me to sit down and workout the exact fixes they need, the whole point is for them to take feedback and respond with a plan of action. Seriously, are you still in school? Do you not understand what a job is or soemthingM what these guys get paid a livable wage for?
    Because the rewards budge plans for all of that..... that's why it's a BUDGET.
    You realise this isn't a real thing right? Nothing in this game is real... it's not like they have tangible limits and what they can and can't give out.

    This budget they swear by is meaningless, the idea is they give out restricted rewards to control the economy.... and they sell out more r3 materials in one weekend than a f2p player can obtain in 6 months 😂 it is not going to kill.the economy if they release harder content that comes with more 7* champions and more r3 mats, it's not going to break the economy if most people have 100 7* champs because they're chasing the new champs still, it's not going to break the economy if most people have 20+ r3's because the Whales will still have 3 times as many 😂 i remember what Karate Mike was dropping his 80th r3 video and I still had 5, 7 r3 can be the exact same, f2p have 10, spenders have 15-20 and Whales have 30+, more rewards will just shift it and people will start ranking up champs they enjoy rather than meta focus... it's pretty simple
    If it's meaningless, then why don't we have r6 7* or 8* yet?
    Well that's spinning the context and wee but there isnt it? I'm saying it's okay for people to have more 7* and more 7*r3 and you jump to r6's 🤦‍♂️

    I truly believe r4 shouldn't drop until next year but r3 cats and 7* shards should be more attainable now. If players have 50, 60 70+ r3s it allows them to rank the champs they WANT to and then when r4 drops we're back to ranking for prestige, meta champs etc and then upto 50, 60, 70+ r4s and r5 drops.

    And 7* availability isn't going to hurt, yeh some people will pull and dupe onslaught upto max sig but most of us keep pulling red Goblin over and over 😂 the pool is big enough that having 100+ 7* champs isn't game breaking, especially when a good 70% won't get ranked; even new champs & freshly buffed champs are being pulled and left at r1
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 5,160 ★★★★★
    edited November 19
    Kabam fix the gad damn relic prestige bug. Stop making people crazy.
    I get it tho
  • WhiteKnightWhiteKnight Member Posts: 670 ★★★★

    Kabam fix the gad damn relic prestige bug. Stop making people crazy.
    I get it tho

    They ain't able to sort that yet, they know but nothing is happening with it... not a priority I guess
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 5,953 ★★★★★

    Buttehrs said:

    Asher1_1 said:

    Terrible - that's just your opinion 😂

    Just like I can say your opinion is Terrible

    It's literally their personality. OP just lacks attention from their mom at home and comes here, writes posts like this just for people to pay attention to them. It's also why they put "Kabam Hero's" in the first paragraph. He wants to stir the pot on purpose for the attention.

    Basically they're a entitled little brat who doesn't get told no enough at home.
    Don't attack people who haven't said anything wrong in their post. That's called targeted hate
    Nah. It's just OP being OP. This isn't constructive criticism on OPs part. They aren't interested giving actual feedback and there's none here. It boils down to they hate the rewards and the game is boring.

    OP doesn't want improvement anyway. His post history tells you that is just what they do.
    Idk maybe you haven't finished school so reading isn't completely up there yet so I'll let it slide.

    But, everything I've said I've said how to improve it 🤣 SQ, EQ update the content and rewards. BG nodes are terrible, do better and update rewards. Release more content like necropolis, Crucible, more frequent story content

    It's all there
    I'm sorry but you think "update the content and rewards" is constructive feedback?

    "Do better and update rewards" oh yeah, that's super helpful. I mean, can feedback get better than that at all? I don't think anyone can top that one. With those 2 suggestions, the devs will definitely improve.

    Again, you probably live a sheltered life. You obviously have no idea what it takes to create content. There's reasons why we beta test story content 6 months before it's released.

    I don't expect you to understand because your vocabulary is limited to "content bad, rewards bad".
    Okay you want me to spell out and come up with the nodes here?

    Cool, EQ make Gauntelt standard for Paragon plus so you run it the same as now but don't need to 100% tb first and add the same for Valiant, gauntlet again with t4a, titan shards but lock this behind paragauntlet

    BG avoid the power gain metas, it highlights issues with AI and makes it much less enjoyable. Have dot focus nodes, power shield, armour burn etc. For rewards, have a noticeable gap between Quantum and uru, give Celestial places BIG rewards, like better rewards than solo or alliance objectives, maybe some T4a or a chase champ like in war. For the store, needs t4a, titan shards, 7* sigs and a BG crystal would be awesome too with 6 OP BG champs

    There, pretty damn easy and took me 60-seconds to think whilst doing my own job 😂
    This is better but just shows you don't understand Kabams rewards economy. They've only explained it a couple hundred times so probably easy to have missed.

    They have a set amount of rewards that they're allowed to use to keep the game from tilting one way or the other. They can't just add a new gauntlet without taking something away. Just like when they added TB difficulty, they removed a difficulty level.

    I don't know why you're so proud of yourself. Just spouting off "increase rewards, lower difficulty in BGs" isn't good feedback either. It definitely shows you took 60 seconds because there's very little thought behind your suggestions.
    This whole budgetted allowance of rewards is bull when you see exactly how much more you can purchase on a monthly basis, not to mention sales events.... hell the guy who won realm BG was rewarded more rewards than anyone else in game this year and the guy who spends the most at banquet will too

    I'm sorry, we're you dropped as a child? Repeatedly? I literally put some node suggestions AND rewards and store improvements 🤦‍♂️

    Kabam don't pay me to sit down and workout the exact fixes they need, the whole point is for them to take feedback and respond with a plan of action. Seriously, are you still in school? Do you not understand what a job is or soemthingM what these guys get paid a livable wage for?
    Because the rewards budge plans for all of that..... that's why it's a BUDGET.
    You realise this isn't a real thing right? Nothing in this game is real... it's not like they have tangible limits and what they can and can't give out.

    This budget they swear by is meaningless, the idea is they give out restricted rewards to control the economy.... and they sell out more r3 materials in one weekend than a f2p player can obtain in 6 months 😂 it is not going to kill.the economy if they release harder content that comes with more 7* champions and more r3 mats, it's not going to break the economy if most people have 100 7* champs because they're chasing the new champs still, it's not going to break the economy if most people have 20+ r3's because the Whales will still have 3 times as many 😂 i remember what Karate Mike was dropping his 80th r3 video and I still had 5, 7 r3 can be the exact same, f2p have 10, spenders have 15-20 and Whales have 30+, more rewards will just shift it and people will start ranking up champs they enjoy rather than meta focus... it's pretty simple
    If it's meaningless, then why don't we have r6 7* or 8* yet?
    Well that's spinning the context and wee but there isnt it? I'm saying it's okay for people to have more 7* and more 7*r3 and you jump to r6's 🤦‍♂️

    I truly believe r4 shouldn't drop until next year but r3 cats and 7* shards should be more attainable now. If players have 50, 60 70+ r3s it allows them to rank the champs they WANT to and then when r4 drops we're back to ranking for prestige, meta champs etc and then upto 50, 60, 70+ r4s and r5 drops.

    And 7* availability isn't going to hurt, yeh some people will pull and dupe onslaught upto max sig but most of us keep pulling red Goblin over and over 😂 the pool is big enough that having 100+ 7* champs isn't game breaking, especially when a good 70% won't get ranked; even new champs & freshly buffed champs are being pulled and left at r1
    You haven't played this game long enough to know how it works then. You don't get more of the top tier stuff until they make a next higher tier stuff available. It's simply how this game is played. Besides the fact that top tier Whales already have close to 30 r3s anyways. If not more. They don't want people to rank up all champs at all times. That's also not how the game is played. You have to make choices and live with those decisions.
  • WhiteKnightWhiteKnight Member Posts: 670 ★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Asher1_1 said:

    Terrible - that's just your opinion 😂

    Just like I can say your opinion is Terrible

    It's literally their personality. OP just lacks attention from their mom at home and comes here, writes posts like this just for people to pay attention to them. It's also why they put "Kabam Hero's" in the first paragraph. He wants to stir the pot on purpose for the attention.

    Basically they're a entitled little brat who doesn't get told no enough at home.
    Don't attack people who haven't said anything wrong in their post. That's called targeted hate
    Nah. It's just OP being OP. This isn't constructive criticism on OPs part. They aren't interested giving actual feedback and there's none here. It boils down to they hate the rewards and the game is boring.

    OP doesn't want improvement anyway. His post history tells you that is just what they do.
    Idk maybe you haven't finished school so reading isn't completely up there yet so I'll let it slide.

    But, everything I've said I've said how to improve it 🤣 SQ, EQ update the content and rewards. BG nodes are terrible, do better and update rewards. Release more content like necropolis, Crucible, more frequent story content

    It's all there
    I'm sorry but you think "update the content and rewards" is constructive feedback?

    "Do better and update rewards" oh yeah, that's super helpful. I mean, can feedback get better than that at all? I don't think anyone can top that one. With those 2 suggestions, the devs will definitely improve.

    Again, you probably live a sheltered life. You obviously have no idea what it takes to create content. There's reasons why we beta test story content 6 months before it's released.

    I don't expect you to understand because your vocabulary is limited to "content bad, rewards bad".
    Okay you want me to spell out and come up with the nodes here?

    Cool, EQ make Gauntelt standard for Paragon plus so you run it the same as now but don't need to 100% tb first and add the same for Valiant, gauntlet again with t4a, titan shards but lock this behind paragauntlet

    BG avoid the power gain metas, it highlights issues with AI and makes it much less enjoyable. Have dot focus nodes, power shield, armour burn etc. For rewards, have a noticeable gap between Quantum and uru, give Celestial places BIG rewards, like better rewards than solo or alliance objectives, maybe some T4a or a chase champ like in war. For the store, needs t4a, titan shards, 7* sigs and a BG crystal would be awesome too with 6 OP BG champs

    There, pretty damn easy and took me 60-seconds to think whilst doing my own job 😂
    This is better but just shows you don't understand Kabams rewards economy. They've only explained it a couple hundred times so probably easy to have missed.

    They have a set amount of rewards that they're allowed to use to keep the game from tilting one way or the other. They can't just add a new gauntlet without taking something away. Just like when they added TB difficulty, they removed a difficulty level.

    I don't know why you're so proud of yourself. Just spouting off "increase rewards, lower difficulty in BGs" isn't good feedback either. It definitely shows you took 60 seconds because there's very little thought behind your suggestions.
    This whole budgetted allowance of rewards is bull when you see exactly how much more you can purchase on a monthly basis, not to mention sales events.... hell the guy who won realm BG was rewarded more rewards than anyone else in game this year and the guy who spends the most at banquet will too

    I'm sorry, we're you dropped as a child? Repeatedly? I literally put some node suggestions AND rewards and store improvements 🤦‍♂️

    Kabam don't pay me to sit down and workout the exact fixes they need, the whole point is for them to take feedback and respond with a plan of action. Seriously, are you still in school? Do you not understand what a job is or soemthingM what these guys get paid a livable wage for?
    Because the rewards budge plans for all of that..... that's why it's a BUDGET.
    You realise this isn't a real thing right? Nothing in this game is real... it's not like they have tangible limits and what they can and can't give out.

    This budget they swear by is meaningless, the idea is they give out restricted rewards to control the economy.... and they sell out more r3 materials in one weekend than a f2p player can obtain in 6 months 😂 it is not going to kill.the economy if they release harder content that comes with more 7* champions and more r3 mats, it's not going to break the economy if most people have 100 7* champs because they're chasing the new champs still, it's not going to break the economy if most people have 20+ r3's because the Whales will still have 3 times as many 😂 i remember what Karate Mike was dropping his 80th r3 video and I still had 5, 7 r3 can be the exact same, f2p have 10, spenders have 15-20 and Whales have 30+, more rewards will just shift it and people will start ranking up champs they enjoy rather than meta focus... it's pretty simple
    If it's meaningless, then why don't we have r6 7* or 8* yet?
    Well that's spinning the context and wee but there isnt it? I'm saying it's okay for people to have more 7* and more 7*r3 and you jump to r6's 🤦‍♂️

    I truly believe r4 shouldn't drop until next year but r3 cats and 7* shards should be more attainable now. If players have 50, 60 70+ r3s it allows them to rank the champs they WANT to and then when r4 drops we're back to ranking for prestige, meta champs etc and then upto 50, 60, 70+ r4s and r5 drops.

    And 7* availability isn't going to hurt, yeh some people will pull and dupe onslaught upto max sig but most of us keep pulling red Goblin over and over 😂 the pool is big enough that having 100+ 7* champs isn't game breaking, especially when a good 70% won't get ranked; even new champs & freshly buffed champs are being pulled and left at r1
    You haven't played this game long enough to know how it works then. You don't get more of the top tier stuff until they make a next higher tier stuff available. It's simply how this game is played. Besides the fact that top tier Whales already have close to 30 r3s anyways. If not more. They don't want people to rank up all champs at all times. That's also not how the game is played. You have to make choices and live with those decisions.
    I've played for 8-years, I've seen both ends.

    R5's were dropped when most f2p maybe had 2/3 r4's and that was too fast, this is perfect as it is, another month or 2 of r3, maybe r4's dropped at banquet if you spend enough and then next year people start getting r4s, a year of r4 before r5's drop again banquet next year

    And choices yes, but even if you can rank 100 champs to r3, that's not even half the champs available in game with more being added monthly. Personally see that as a good thing
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,142 ★★★★★
    Personally I am unhappy with the game; but that is on me, there is nothing exciting to look foward. Even if there was something exciting I would probably rush thru it, if I can't rush just revive spam it and then be in the same spot again.
    I am at the point of the game where excitement is ephemeral, which turns the game into a routine, and I am fine with that. Play a bit less, spend a lot less. Found a perfect balance of playtime and personal satisfaction (not enjoyment, just satisfaction).
    What can be done? I don't know cause a new EQ level... I would probably clear that in 2 days and be in the same place... Grind more rewards? Why? So i can get the 10 second excitement of spinning a crystal and dup a champ I didn't want or pull something I really wanted to enjoy exactly where? In the few BG matches I do every 48 just to stay current?
    I guess I am retired and I am fine with that.
    The thing I could criticize at this point is the fact that the need to engage new players is making it feel like Kabam is burning the candle from both ends. Whales will always be whales; but seems like there is a slight inclination of making the game experience better for newee players as well, and players like me somewhere in the middle just treat the game like a toilet game.
  • CROSSHAIRSCROSSHAIRS Member Posts: 346
    edited November 19


  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,050 ★★★★★

    Disrespecting and personal attacks are okay as long as it is done by demonzfyre, right?

    Sure seems that way. Best course of action is to avoid trolls.
    I try, but you all post way more often these days.
  • WhiteKnightWhiteKnight Member Posts: 670 ★★★★
    Actually, now it's been mentioned can we pull back to this 'budget' claim kabam are dropping

    That is apparently the reason rewards aren't being buffed for ages etc but it's complete horse sh*t

    I imagine the premise is that we can only earn x ammount of r3 cats, x ammount of 7* shards etc that just be spread of the month, quarter etc

    But how is that a possible consideration when you have something like the daily offers?! Quick math points to 26k t4a and 9.5 7* shards and week from spending? Plus the tickets get an extra 5k 7* shards or 19k t4a depending on which way you go... but this is an extra r3 EVERY MONTH and 2/3 7*s a month too so how is this calculated?

    Kabam tell us they won't buff rewards because we'll earn too much but nothing you can do monthly offers this much rewards? So it's just another crappy excuse to not update rewards/ stores

    I really hope I wrong here but that is exactly what it sounds like.
  • WhiteKnightWhiteKnight Member Posts: 670 ★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    Disrespecting and personal attacks are okay as long as it is done by demonzfyre, right?

    So you're saying it's ok if you or OP does it but I can't do it?
    No one should be doing it in the first place. It is important to remember to be respectful to each other. You can still get your point across of OP having bad takes without resorting to personal attacks.
    Yeh i retaliated and hold my hands up... not needed
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