7R4 is coming, but it's also time for adding ascend-2?

FunnyDude

After the cyber weekend, endgame players have 30-40 7R3, they nearly upgraded all the top-tier champions, you may run into all-7R3 match in battleground. At this point, almost everyone thinks 7R4 is coming, it may start to appear in the banquet event, a lot of people will have their first 7R4 in early next year.
Based on what we've seen in the last couple years, cadence of a new rank is 18 months, so it's impossible for players to get many 7R4 in the next 6 months, what can make them feel good besides having more and more second-tier 7R3? Ascend-2 is the answer!

Because today only handful 6-star champions are still useful for endgame players (a probably a dozen), and I do agree bringing those champions into 7-star pool may break the game again, so what Kabam can do is adding tier-3 primordial dust into the game and enabling ascend-2 for 6-start, people can be excited again by having 6R7 hulkling, CGR....

captain_rogers

You're indeed a funny dude

Terra

Way too soon.


I do however wonder how many tiered ascensions the Game Team does plan for...

FrostDzNz

Nah, the sun is setting on six stars and I'd rather Kabam not lead people astray by giving them false hope. It's time for players to make the right choice. Choose Success, Choose Victory, Choose the FUTURE! Choose to invest in your 7 stars today, before the choice is made for you.

FunnyDude

captain_rogers said:

You're indeed a funny dude

well, you can always disagree, the fact is at here, even I was right, still quite a few people disagreed with me.

Buttehrs

There's never a reason to add more than one ascension level. Otherwise why release any new rarities at all? You could just keep adding ascension levels indefinitely. Keep them at level 1. Or never release anything higher than 7* take your pick. Can't have both.

Buttehrs

FunnyDude said:

captain_rogers said:

You're indeed a funny dude

well, you can always disagree, the fact is at here, even I was right, still quite a few people disagreed with me.

They disagreed because there's zero need for more ascension levels.

FunnyDude

Buttehrs said:

FunnyDude said:

captain_rogers said:

You're indeed a funny dude

well, you can always disagree, the fact is at here, even I was right, still quite a few people disagreed with me.

They disagreed because there's zero need for more ascension levels.

This means you have no idea about status of endgame players.

Buttehrs

FunnyDude said:

Buttehrs said:

FunnyDude said:

captain_rogers said:

You're indeed a funny dude

well, you can always disagree, the fact is at here, even I was right, still quite a few people disagreed with me.

They disagreed because there's zero need for more ascension levels.

This means you have no idea about status of endgame players.

No, it showd you don't understand how the game works in general.

JT_Supreme

Fr, I’m running out of champs to ascend. I don’t spend either, so I can imagine the whales. I haven’t even bothered with eq last like 4 months.

Bendy

Buttehrs said:

There's never a reason to add more than one ascension level. Otherwise why release any new rarities at all? You could just keep adding ascension levels indefinitely. Keep them at level 1. Or never release anything higher than 7* take your pick. Can't have both.

Tbh to keep things relevant i can see them adding more ascensions but only after a few more ranks and materials since they wont just keep at t1 and t2 dust it will go most likely higher but not for a long time say r6 7s is when 6s will get level 2 ascension level when 8s happen is when 7s will get level 1 after 8s can go r3 etc if they ever do 8s that is in the future as plans can change and they do ascensions instead

BringPopcorn

I wonder if people just find ways to lose money in their free time? And I don't mean spending on guilty pleasure items.. i mean literally setting money on fire. Ascension dust was probably one of the biggest busts for Kabam as in money producing item (biggest was probably relics which is why its on pause), making a 2nd ascension level would be a complete waste of time and make the game even MORE free. Yes this is a pro profit company!!

Siliyo

FunnyDude said:

Buttehrs said:

FunnyDude said:

captain_rogers said:

You're indeed a funny dude

well, you can always disagree, the fact is at here, even I was right, still quite a few people disagreed with me.

They disagreed because there's zero need for more ascension levels.

This means you have no idea about status of endgame players.

Tell me you’re not an endgame player without telling me you’re not an endgame player. Most players who are endgame (Content is done, they’re Valiant, they make it to Gladiator Circuit often) are not looking for more ways to ascend their 6 stars. The game is transitioning over to 7 stars as we’re receiving more r3 materials, and as you said, preparing for the eventual r4.

Buttehrs

Bendy said:

Buttehrs said:

There's never a reason to add more than one ascension level. Otherwise why release any new rarities at all? You could just keep adding ascension levels indefinitely. Keep them at level 1. Or never release anything higher than 7* take your pick. Can't have both.

Tbh to keep things relevant i can see them adding more ascensions but only after a few more ranks and materials since they wont just keep at t1 and t2 dust it will go most likely higher but not for a long time say r6 7s is when 6s will get level 2 ascension level when 8s happen is when 7s will get level 1 after 8s can go r3 etc if they ever do 8s that is in the future as plans can change and they do ascensions instead

I'm sure they'll give an ascension level for 7* but only once 8* drops. That's literally all an ascension level is, to bridge the slight gap between new rarities one time. Not for every rank that comes after that.

Demonzfyre

Terra said:

Way too soon.


I do however wonder how many tiered ascensions the Game Team does plan for...

With how available 7* shards and mats are, I don't think they'll go past the initial tier. It was only there to temporarily extend the life of 6*'s while 7*'s had a slower rollout.

Gamer

Ascension shouldn’t com with a 2 it was just to do 6 star don’t dies as fast.

PT_99

5* should get Ascended-5

Get it? 5=5
🥹

FunnyDude

Ok, I have 34 7r3, what can I expect in the next couple of months?
7r4? That will be too soon I don’t see it can happen
Another 3-4 7r3? Would be ok but I don’t really care

Ascend-2 doesn’t have to have the same stats as 7r3, it can be something between 7r2 and 7r3, getting resource for one ascend-2 champion in a couple of months will be something interesting to me.

Players can be wrong, see how boring the decay tactic is? This is what players voted out, silk just nukes everything.

dr2ws

Don’t expect 7* ascensions to come until r6 or r5 come out.

Gamer

FunnyDude said:

Ok, I have 34 7r3, what can I expect in the next couple of months?
7r4? That will be too soon I don’t see it can happen
Another 3-4 7r3? Would be ok but I don’t really care

Ascend-2 doesn’t have to have the same stats as 7r3, it can be something between 7r2 and 7r3, getting resource for one ascend-2 champion in a couple of months will be something interesting to me.

Players can be wrong, see how boring the decay tactic is? This is what players voted out, silk just nukes everything.

This thing is ascension is already around r2 so. What you trying to to do is making them be use for way longer then really is neede

Ourobøros

How can I disagree more than once? One Disagree is not enough

Buttehrs

FunnyDude said:

Ok, I have 34 7r3, what can I expect in the next couple of months?
7r4? That will be too soon I don’t see it can happen
Another 3-4 7r3? Would be ok but I don’t really care

Ascend-2 doesn’t have to have the same stats as 7r3, it can be something between 7r2 and 7r3, getting resource for one ascend-2 champion in a couple of months will be something interesting to me.

Players can be wrong, see how boring the decay tactic is? This is what players voted out, silk just nukes everything.

Your basically just saying you want to use 6* that are overpowered and will probably never be a 7* or higher. It's time to let them go. The meta has left them behind or close to it. It's time for the next round of champs to have the spotlight. It's how the game goes. Remember when blade was the best champ in game? Or ghost/quake? Hercules? They've all be phased out to a point of minimal use. It's inevitable.

Deacon

7R4? nah let's jump straight to 8*s !! that way we can compete with the BG decks.

Demonzfyre

FunnyDude said:

Ok, I have 34 7r3, what can I expect in the next couple of months?
7r4? That will be too soon I don’t see it can happen
Another 3-4 7r3? Would be ok but I don’t really care

Ascend-2 doesn’t have to have the same stats as 7r3, it can be something between 7r2 and 7r3, getting resource for one ascend-2 champion in a couple of months will be something interesting to me.

Players can be wrong, see how boring the decay tactic is? This is what players voted out, silk just nukes everything.

You'll be safe to expect no changes and probably no R4s until next year.

Feuerschwer

If Ascension is so good why hasn’t Kabam released Ascension 2?

Checkmate fanboys.

Pikolu

6 stars have been in the game and at least somewhat meta-viable since 2017. That is basically 70% of the game's lifetime. It is time to accept that their time is over. I highly doubt kabam wants to keep them alive any longer than they have already.

Frumpy_geezer

I have always wondered why there was the number in the ascension icon.

BigBlueOx

End game players doing really care about acension dust anymore

BringPopcorn

34 7r3s and you are thinking 6* ascensions.. 🤯🤯🤦🤦

Ironman3000

FunnyDude said:

Buttehrs said:

FunnyDude said:

captain_rogers said:

You're indeed a funny dude

well, you can always disagree, the fact is at here, even I was right, still quite a few people disagreed with me.

They disagreed because there's zero need for more ascension levels.

This means you have no idea about status of endgame players.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

Samanun

FunnyDude said:

After the cyber weekend, endgame players have 30-40 7R3, they nearly upgraded all the top-tier champions, you may run into all-7R3 match in battleground. At this point, almost everyone thinks 7R4 is coming, it may start to appear in the banquet event, a lot of people will have their first 7R4 in early next year.
Based on what we've seen in the last couple years, cadence of a new rank is 18 months, so it's impossible for players to get many 7R4 in the next 6 months, what can make them feel good besides having more and more second-tier 7R3? Ascend-2 is the answer!

Because today only handful 6-star champions are still useful for endgame players (a probably a dozen), and I do agree bringing those champions into 7-star pool may break the game again, so what Kabam can do is adding tier-3 primordial dust into the game and enabling ascend-2 for 6-start, people can be excited again by having 6R7 hulkling, CGR....

Whales (a very small percentage of the player base) have 30-40 r3’s most endgame players probably don't have more than 10