I doubt anyone at kabam cares about this or the fact they’ve handed a bailout to big spenders. It’s a story old as time that companies roll out the red carpet to appease big spenders and with kabam’s record I don’t know why anyone would expect any different from them.
I don’t accept it would have been a “knee jerk” reaction. Devs have a year to consider and plan out this event, granted they probably don’t fully focus on it until the latter part of the year but the point remains that they knew how bad this crystal was and went ahead with it anyway. Whales knew how bad it was and continued to buy it - why anyone would sign off on this VIP offer is almost unbelievable but to sign off on the deal and implement it through the back door without letting the rest of the player base know is a disgusting practice when it would have been as easy as a discord/forum message to say by the way these offers are available/unlock under these circumstances. These whales aren’t automatically great players but any paid advantage they would have had at the end of this event has now been directly amplified by Kabam.
To the dev who is offering a post-mortem honestly why bother? It’s not going to satisfy anyone as it’s unlikely kabam will offer any kind of compensation or suitable explanation as to why the grand banquet was such a let down. After all it has proved to be a grand banquet for kabam and I’m sure community resentment is a small price to pay for a financially successful event.
Oh no! The whales are gonna have to sell their overflow like I, a poor scrub, would have to? That's terrible! They don't deserve the same treatment that us poor folk get! Lol
Why does the gap between top spenders and FTP bother most of you people so much?
The people in the top 100 spent THOUSANDS if not TENS OF THOUSANDS on this event. Most of us (me included) can’t even fathom spending 10k+ on a mobile video game. The fact some think you should be even remotely close to these top spenders is delusional.
Said nobody… way to frame things in the worst possible light so you might appear to be reasonable.
Said literally the OP by mentioning the p2w gap LMAO
Also almost every single person who quoted me crying “that’s not what we’re saying. We don’t care about the gap” then immediately went on to contradict themselves by saying how it’s unfair that people who spent more are getting more
Why does the gap between top spenders and FTP bother most of you people so much?
The people in the top 100 spent THOUSANDS if not TENS OF THOUSANDS on this event. Most of us (me included) can’t even fathom spending 10k+ on a mobile video game. The fact some think you should be even remotely close to these top spenders is delusional.
Because they literally said the crystals were designed to not create a huge gap between big spenders and not, and now there is a side market to reward the big spenders.
Which would cause reasonable anger if that side market was intended from the very beginning….but it was not
And my point is the fact that many believe there shouldn’t be a gap after these crystals just because Kabam may have said it would be less of a gap this year. How can you possibly expect the gap to not be huge between someone who spent 185k and someone who is FTP? Okay 185k is a bit of an outlier but what about 20k? It is delusional to think the gap wouldn’t widen between top spenders, which is who the last second “side market” is for, and non spenders.
Why does the gap between top spenders and FTP bother most of you people so much?
The people in the top 100 spent THOUSANDS if not TENS OF THOUSANDS on this event. Most of us (me included) can’t even fathom spending 10k+ on a mobile video game. The fact some think you should be even remotely close to these top spenders is delusional.
Because they literally said the crystals were designed to not create a huge gap between big spenders and not, and now there is a side market to reward the big spenders.
Which would cause reasonable anger if that side market was intended from the very beginning….but it was not
And my point is the fact that many believe there shouldn’t be a gap after these crystals just because Kabam may have said it would be less of a gap this year. How can you possibly expect the gap to not be huge between someone who spent 185k and someone who is FTP? Okay 185k is a bit of an outlier but what about 20k? It is delusional to think the gap wouldn’t widen between top spenders, which is who the last second “side market” is for, and non spenders.
Congratulations, you figured out something that most of us already knew, making the gap smaller was a delusional excuse for terrible designed crystals they believe were a success and ended patching with a silent dirty fix A fix during their break as if it was an emergency that would break the game if 50 players held resources in overflow before they address a pretty upset community
Making a limited offer like this available to all was going to realistically result in maybe a handful more R2s and maybe an extra couple R3s for some. Minimal impact.
The class catalysts would have limited the rest of us and Kabam coulda hand a small W on their hands as this would not have helped us keep pace with the largest spenders but it would have shown fair treatment across the board in an effort to rebalance the SBCs pay outs.
+1 - it also would have stopped that gap from widening too much that they want to keep in check..or so I read.
We all had to endure those SBCs aka t6cc crystals.
I honestly don’t think opening this deal to the rest of us would have impacted that gap either way. Those that got this deal probably had the ability to R2 every 7star they own or close to it and/or had to dump catalysts into 6stars to prevent items expiring… while adding many R3 7stars as well.
What is telling though, and why it seems to me that this is a knee jerk reaction to appease mega spenders, is that apparently the SBCs were so imbalanced towards class catalysts that the game team opted to remove any cap limits on this offer to make sure all of the mega spenders would be happy. They didn’t take the time analyze what would be needed to balance the drop rates from the SBC, they simply made it unlimited.
I do think some of the folks who believe that expanding this deal to the rest of us would have hurt the game economy and shortened the life span of 7stars are raising a concern from a logical thought process. But I remain unconvinced that this is the case. Class catalysts and T4as for most of us who participated in the event are probably not in overflow, and if they are are probably not going to provide more than a few extra rank ups. I don’t think that will accelerate things anymore than the need to keep the whales invested in the next chase… which many of them not only have multiple R4s but all the relevant trophy champs at high or max sig… including Jessica Jones. Oh and a 7star of their choice next year… which from watching USAFAs stream it seems spenders at that tier got a preview list too. So all that to say what are they even chasing then coming out of this… and how is that not bad for the game economy? Consider that less than 1% of them carried approximately 10% of the realm score… I’ll let that settle in.
Personally I’m not that fused about getting this deal or not. I do think it makes more sense than not for the team to extend this deal or a version of it to the rest of us, but I’m not going to lose any sleep over it. It would at least offer an olive branch to other spenders that their dollars matter to Kabam as well, if FTPs get to benefit too, who cares, most of them invest so much time and energy into the game they deserve a windfall too.
Most ironic about this thread though… are some of the people who seem to be ok with this band aid patch offer, seem to be the ones who leap on top of others saying “buyer beware” and “it’s not Kabam’s responsibility to manage player inventories”. And here’s a situation where ultimately this would have been the best answer to the situation and they are picking the opposite side. That’s worth a chuckle.
Making a limited offer like this available to all was going to realistically result in maybe a handful more R2s and maybe an extra couple R3s for some. Minimal impact.
The class catalysts would have limited the rest of us and Kabam coulda hand a small W on their hands as this would not have helped us keep pace with the largest spenders but it would have shown fair treatment across the board in an effort to rebalance the SBCs pay outs.
+1 - it also would have stopped that gap from widening too much that they want to keep in check..or so I read.
We all had to endure those SBCs aka t6cc crystals.
I honestly don’t think opening this deal to the rest of us would have impacted that gap either way. Those that got this deal probably had the ability to R2 every 7star they own or close to it and/or had to dump catalysts into 6stars to prevent items expiring… while adding many R3 7stars as well.
What is telling though, and why it seems to me that this is a knee jerk reaction to appease mega spenders, is that apparently the SBCs were so imbalanced towards class catalysts that the game team opted to remove any cap limits on this offer to make sure all of the mega spenders would be happy. They didn’t take the time analyze what would be needed to balance the drop rates from the SBC, they simply made it unlimited.
I do think some of the folks who believe that expanding this deal to the rest of us would have hurt the game economy and shortened the life span of 7stars are raising a concern from a logical thought process. But I remain unconvinced that this is the case. Class catalysts and T4as for most of us who participated in the event are probably not in overflow, and if they are are probably not going to provide more than a few extra rank ups. I don’t think that will accelerate things anymore than the need to keep the whales invested in the next chase… which many of them not only have multiple R4s but all the relevant trophy champs at high or max sig… including Jessica Jones. Oh and a 7star of their choice next year… which from watching USAFAs stream it seems spenders at that tier got a preview list too. So all that to say what are they even chasing then coming out of this… and how is that not bad for the game economy? Consider that less than 1% of them carried approximately 10% of the realm score… I’ll let that settle in.
Personally I’m not that fused about getting this deal or not. I do think it makes more sense than not for the team to extend this deal or a version of it to the rest of us, but I’m not going to lose any sleep over it. It would at least offer an olive branch to other spenders that their dollars matter to Kabam as well, if FTPs get to benefit too, who cares, most of them invest so much time and energy into the game they deserve a windfall too.
Most ironic about this thread though… are some of the people who seem to be ok with this band aid patch offer, seem to be the ones who leap on top of others saying “buyer beware” and “it’s not Kabam’s responsibility to manage player inventories”. And here’s a situation where ultimately this would have been the best answer to the situation and they are picking the opposite side. That’s worth a chuckle.
TBF I was being sarcastic! The premise that banquet crystals had to have high drop rates of lesser-desired resources to keep the whales in check was always flimsy. No matter what drop rates are there, true whales will buy enough crystals to get what they want as SuperBroZ proved. He didn't want just 1 but at least 3 7r4 and he ended up with 5 - before the rank rewards even dropped. He will have at least 7 or 8 now if he used those rewards.
Making a limited offer like this available to all was going to realistically result in maybe a handful more R2s and maybe an extra couple R3s for some. Minimal impact.
The class catalysts would have limited the rest of us and Kabam coulda hand a small W on their hands as this would not have helped us keep pace with the largest spenders but it would have shown fair treatment across the board in an effort to rebalance the SBCs pay outs.
+1 - it also would have stopped that gap from widening too much that they want to keep in check..or so I read.
We all had to endure those SBCs aka t6cc crystals.
I honestly don’t think opening this deal to the rest of us would have impacted that gap either way. Those that got this deal probably had the ability to R2 every 7star they own or close to it and/or had to dump catalysts into 6stars to prevent items expiring… while adding many R3 7stars as well.
What is telling though, and why it seems to me that this is a knee jerk reaction to appease mega spenders, is that apparently the SBCs were so imbalanced towards class catalysts that the game team opted to remove any cap limits on this offer to make sure all of the mega spenders would be happy. They didn’t take the time analyze what would be needed to balance the drop rates from the SBC, they simply made it unlimited.
I do think some of the folks who believe that expanding this deal to the rest of us would have hurt the game economy and shortened the life span of 7stars are raising a concern from a logical thought process. But I remain unconvinced that this is the case. Class catalysts and T4as for most of us who participated in the event are probably not in overflow, and if they are are probably not going to provide more than a few extra rank ups. I don’t think that will accelerate things anymore than the need to keep the whales invested in the next chase… which many of them not only have multiple R4s but all the relevant trophy champs at high or max sig… including Jessica Jones. Oh and a 7star of their choice next year… which from watching USAFAs stream it seems spenders at that tier got a preview list too. So all that to say what are they even chasing then coming out of this… and how is that not bad for the game economy? Consider that less than 1% of them carried approximately 10% of the realm score… I’ll let that settle in.
Personally I’m not that fused about getting this deal or not. I do think it makes more sense than not for the team to extend this deal or a version of it to the rest of us, but I’m not going to lose any sleep over it. It would at least offer an olive branch to other spenders that their dollars matter to Kabam as well, if FTPs get to benefit too, who cares, most of them invest so much time and energy into the game they deserve a windfall too.
Most ironic about this thread though… are some of the people who seem to be ok with this band aid patch offer, seem to be the ones who leap on top of others saying “buyer beware” and “it’s not Kabam’s responsibility to manage player inventories”. And here’s a situation where ultimately this would have been the best answer to the situation and they are picking the opposite side. That’s worth a chuckle.
TBF I was being sarcastic! The premise that banquet crystals had to have high drop rates of lesser-desired resources to keep the whales in check was always flimsy. No matter what drop rates are there, true whales will buy enough crystals to get what they want as SuperBroZ proved. He didn't want just 1 but at least 3 7r4 and he ended up with 5 - before the rank rewards even dropped. He will have at least 7 or 8 now if he used those rewards.
Yeah… this deal eradicated any ground that premise stood on.
I’m not saying there shouldn’t be a gap or extra privilege for spending at this level… it’s just more a comment on what was communicated to us vs actions.
Hello. I'm working on a lengthy Banquet post-mortem for all of you, but I'm just going to go ahead and try to head this one off at the pass now.
The reason the Banquet crystal was unbalanced was 100% on me. Our Live Ops team produced a perfectly balanced tuning for the crystal in which this wouldn't have been a problem. In reviewing it, I counted all T6B/T3A drops as filler, and in an effort to reduce the amount of filler I moved some of those drops to other resources. For most players this wasn't a problem. I personally put up around 100,000 points and finished ~1500th, and for me the imbalance wasn't perceptible.
However in monitoring the event over the break, we realized players at the top were going to put up more points than we expected, and for them it was going to become a real problem. So we did something quick and dirty to help them correct the imbalance. If I could go back in time to before the event I would have thought of something else, but I'm pretty sure players wouldn't have liked the Banquet event more if it had included more T6B/T3A in the crystals.
I personally don't see this as a fairness problem, as I can tell you the difference between my account and these accounts has nothing to do with T6B/T3A. And I don't see it as these players getting to buy T6B/T3A for 10 Units, I see them as getting to buy T6B/T3A for 750,000 Units + 10 Units, which is what somebody had to spend to unlock this offer.
So the reason this was the absolute worst crystal in 10 years with drop rates was 1,000% all your fault. You purposely created unbalanced crystals just to drop an unfair advantage offer in the contest for those that specifically spent $20,000 USD or more. The resources dropped were specifically geared to force people to actually spend thousands just to get enough drops to actually rank anything up. Hopefully you get some corrective action for admitting your egregious errors with overriding the original drop rates. The contest is now greatly unbalanced as top players now have over 100 R3 7*’s upwards of 160 R3 7*’s.
Kabam is running a business and these people are far and away their top supporters so I don't really see an issue making a somewhat common resource now more available to them for this specific event. T6b and t3a are readily available in the glory store, BGs store etc to cover general rank ups year round but not the t6cc influx of the banquet so a special accommodation was made. I'd think any reasonable person can understand a company making a small accommodation like this to their biggest customers, honestly it would be foolish not to.
Hello. I'm working on a lengthy Banquet post-mortem for all of you, but I'm just going to go ahead and try to head this one off at the pass now.
The reason the Banquet crystal was unbalanced was 100% on me. Our Live Ops team produced a perfectly balanced tuning for the crystal in which this wouldn't have been a problem. In reviewing it, I counted all T6B/T3A drops as filler, and in an effort to reduce the amount of filler I moved some of those drops to other resources. For most players this wasn't a problem. I personally put up around 100,000 points and finished ~1500th, and for me the imbalance wasn't perceptible.
However in monitoring the event over the break, we realized players at the top were going to put up more points than we expected, and for them it was going to become a real problem. So we did something quick and dirty to help them correct the imbalance. If I could go back in time to before the event I would have thought of something else, but I'm pretty sure players wouldn't have liked the Banquet event more if it had included more T6B/T3A in the crystals.
I personally don't see this as a fairness problem, as I can tell you the difference between my account and these accounts has nothing to do with T6B/T3A. And I don't see it as these players getting to buy T6B/T3A for 10 Units, I see them as getting to buy T6B/T3A for 750,000 Units + 10 Units, which is what somebody had to spend to unlock this offer.
So the reason this was the absolute worst crystal in 10 years with drop rates was 1,000% all your fault. You purposely created unbalanced crystals just to drop an unfair advantage offer in the contest for those that specifically spent $20,000 USD or more. The resources dropped were specifically geared to force people to actually spend thousands just to get enough drops to actually rank anything up. Hopefully you get some corrective action for admitting your egregious errors with overriding the original drop rates. The contest is now greatly unbalanced as top players now have over 100 R3 7*’s upwards of 160 R3 7*’s.
Does it really matter wether they have 100 or 160?... Not really, the whole point is that they should have to deal with overflow and expiring items like everybody else
Hello. I'm working on a lengthy Banquet post-mortem for all of you, but I'm just going to go ahead and try to head this one off at the pass now.
The reason the Banquet crystal was unbalanced was 100% on me. Our Live Ops team produced a perfectly balanced tuning for the crystal in which this wouldn't have been a problem. In reviewing it, I counted all T6B/T3A drops as filler, and in an effort to reduce the amount of filler I moved some of those drops to other resources. For most players this wasn't a problem. I personally put up around 100,000 points and finished ~1500th, and for me the imbalance wasn't perceptible.
However in monitoring the event over the break, we realized players at the top were going to put up more points than we expected, and for them it was going to become a real problem. So we did something quick and dirty to help them correct the imbalance. If I could go back in time to before the event I would have thought of something else, but I'm pretty sure players wouldn't have liked the Banquet event more if it had included more T6B/T3A in the crystals.
I personally don't see this as a fairness problem, as I can tell you the difference between my account and these accounts has nothing to do with T6B/T3A. And I don't see it as these players getting to buy T6B/T3A for 10 Units, I see them as getting to buy T6B/T3A for 750,000 Units + 10 Units, which is what somebody had to spend to unlock this offer.
So the reason this was the absolute worst crystal in 10 years with drop rates was 1,000% all your fault. You purposely created unbalanced crystals just to drop an unfair advantage offer in the contest for those that specifically spent $20,000 USD or more. The resources dropped were specifically geared to force people to actually spend thousands just to get enough drops to actually rank anything up. Hopefully you get some corrective action for admitting your egregious errors with overriding the original drop rates. The contest is now greatly unbalanced as top players now have over 100 R3 7*’s upwards of 160 R3 7*’s.
Does it really matter wether they have 100 or 160?... Not really, the whole point is that they should have to deal with overflow and expiring items like everybody else
This I agerd with after like 30 r3 it doesn’t really matter because bg deck only has 30 slots so after that’s there can have 160 and I wouldn’t care it about the fairness. With this wasn’t
Hello. I'm working on a lengthy Banquet post-mortem for all of you, but I'm just going to go ahead and try to head this one off at the pass now.
The reason the Banquet crystal was unbalanced was 100% on me. Our Live Ops team produced a perfectly balanced tuning for the crystal in which this wouldn't have been a problem. In reviewing it, I counted all T6B/T3A drops as filler, and in an effort to reduce the amount of filler I moved some of those drops to other resources. For most players this wasn't a problem. I personally put up around 100,000 points and finished ~1500th, and for me the imbalance wasn't perceptible.
However in monitoring the event over the break, we realized players at the top were going to put up more points than we expected, and for them it was going to become a real problem. So we did something quick and dirty to help them correct the imbalance. If I could go back in time to before the event I would have thought of something else, but I'm pretty sure players wouldn't have liked the Banquet event more if it had included more T6B/T3A in the crystals.
I personally don't see this as a fairness problem, as I can tell you the difference between my account and these accounts has nothing to do with T6B/T3A. And I don't see it as these players getting to buy T6B/T3A for 10 Units, I see them as getting to buy T6B/T3A for 750,000 Units + 10 Units, which is what somebody had to spend to unlock this offer.
So the reason this was the absolute worst crystal in 10 years with drop rates was 1,000% all your fault. You purposely created unbalanced crystals just to drop an unfair advantage offer in the contest for those that specifically spent $20,000 USD or more. The resources dropped were specifically geared to force people to actually spend thousands just to get enough drops to actually rank anything up. Hopefully you get some corrective action for admitting your egregious errors with overriding the original drop rates. The contest is now greatly unbalanced as top players now have over 100 R3 7*’s upwards of 160 R3 7*’s.
Bro, come on. The contest was, is and will be unbalanced — probably in a more dramatic fashion than we can actually perceive.
But this isn’t a conspiracy, I’m confident Crashed and everyone else want the best for everyone and are doing the best they can to balance a galaxy of competing priorities. I didn’t love banquet for several reasons, but I also don’t believe there was a secret plot to screw me over.
Hello. I'm working on a lengthy Banquet post-mortem for all of you, but I'm just going to go ahead and try to head this one off at the pass now.
The reason the Banquet crystal was unbalanced was 100% on me. Our Live Ops team produced a perfectly balanced tuning for the crystal in which this wouldn't have been a problem. In reviewing it, I counted all T6B/T3A drops as filler, and in an effort to reduce the amount of filler I moved some of those drops to other resources. For most players this wasn't a problem. I personally put up around 100,000 points and finished ~1500th, and for me the imbalance wasn't perceptible.
However in monitoring the event over the break, we realized players at the top were going to put up more points than we expected, and for them it was going to become a real problem. So we did something quick and dirty to help them correct the imbalance. If I could go back in time to before the event I would have thought of something else, but I'm pretty sure players wouldn't have liked the Banquet event more if it had included more T6B/T3A in the crystals.
I personally don't see this as a fairness problem, as I can tell you the difference between my account and these accounts has nothing to do with T6B/T3A. And I don't see it as these players getting to buy T6B/T3A for 10 Units, I see them as getting to buy T6B/T3A for 750,000 Units + 10 Units, which is what somebody had to spend to unlock this offer.
So the reason this was the absolute worst crystal in 10 years with drop rates was 1,000% all your fault. You purposely created unbalanced crystals just to drop an unfair advantage offer in the contest for those that specifically spent $20,000 USD or more. The resources dropped were specifically geared to force people to actually spend thousands just to get enough drops to actually rank anything up. Hopefully you get some corrective action for admitting your egregious errors with overriding the original drop rates. The contest is now greatly unbalanced as top players now have over 100 R3 7*’s upwards of 160 R3 7*’s.
Bro, come on. The contest was, is and will be unbalanced — probably in a more dramatic fashion than we can actually perceive.
But this isn’t a conspiracy, I’m confident Crashed and everyone else want the best for everyone and are doing the best they can to balance a galaxy of competing priorities. I didn’t love banquet for several reasons, but I also don’t believe there was a secret plot to screw me over.
Secret plot and poor execution are two different things though.
Hello. I'm working on a lengthy Banquet post-mortem for all of you, but I'm just going to go ahead and try to head this one off at the pass now.
The reason the Banquet crystal was unbalanced was 100% on me. Our Live Ops team produced a perfectly balanced tuning for the crystal in which this wouldn't have been a problem. In reviewing it, I counted all T6B/T3A drops as filler, and in an effort to reduce the amount of filler I moved some of those drops to other resources. For most players this wasn't a problem. I personally put up around 100,000 points and finished ~1500th, and for me the imbalance wasn't perceptible.
However in monitoring the event over the break, we realized players at the top were going to put up more points than we expected, and for them it was going to become a real problem. So we did something quick and dirty to help them correct the imbalance. If I could go back in time to before the event I would have thought of something else, but I'm pretty sure players wouldn't have liked the Banquet event more if it had included more T6B/T3A in the crystals.
I personally don't see this as a fairness problem, as I can tell you the difference between my account and these accounts has nothing to do with T6B/T3A. And I don't see it as these players getting to buy T6B/T3A for 10 Units, I see them as getting to buy T6B/T3A for 750,000 Units + 10 Units, which is what somebody had to spend to unlock this offer.
So the reason this was the absolute worst crystal in 10 years with drop rates was 1,000% all your fault. You purposely created unbalanced crystals just to drop an unfair advantage offer in the contest for those that specifically spent $20,000 USD or more. The resources dropped were specifically geared to force people to actually spend thousands just to get enough drops to actually rank anything up. Hopefully you get some corrective action for admitting your egregious errors with overriding the original drop rates. The contest is now greatly unbalanced as top players now have over 100 R3 7*’s upwards of 160 R3 7*’s.
Bro, come on. The contest was, is and will be unbalanced — probably in a more dramatic fashion than we can actually perceive.
But this isn’t a conspiracy, I’m confident Crashed and everyone else want the best for everyone and are doing the best they can to balance a galaxy of competing priorities. I didn’t love banquet for several reasons, but I also don’t believe there was a secret plot to screw me over.
Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by simple incompetence.
There were some good points made in this thread, and we didn't want to leave things as they were, so we decided to release this to all Valiant players.
Now you will have to excuse me, I need to make a spreadsheet for my plans with this haha.
There were some good points made in this thread, and we didn't want to leave things as they were, so we decided to release this to all Valiant players.
Now you will have to excuse me, I need to make a spreadsheet for my plans with this haha.
Genuinely, thank you.
A far more generous response than I had expected or even hoped for.
I literally just opened up the in-game rank up store to get the free daily gift, and saw this offer, and did a double take.
Um...what??????? For how much????
So, of course, I immediately went to the forums to understand what the heck happened here. Let me say, as somebody who happened upon this offer with zero context, the whole thing is pretty hilarious.
Now I feel like one of those extras in an action movie that sees the protagonist throw a truckload of cash in the air, and just rushes to grab as many bills as they can before the miracle evaporates.
I'll be stuffing my pockets with as much as I can carry, thankyouverymuch!
Also, P.S: go easy on Crashed. We're all people, just trying to do the best we can. He (or she?) has always been open and direct with the community, and even if you disagree with or hate his decisions, please give the dev team the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their intentions. Even when they do accidentally screw us over, you gotta believe it's not their intention in any situation.
There were some good points made in this thread, and we didn't want to leave things as they were, so we decided to release this to all Valiant players.
Now you will have to excuse me, I need to make a spreadsheet for my plans with this haha.
There were some good points made in this thread, and we didn't want to leave things as they were, so we decided to release this to all Valiant players.
Now you will have to excuse me, I need to make a spreadsheet for my plans with this haha.
Wow they actually listened. This is why I said you post your concerns. “Close mouths don’t get fed” @Demonzfyre
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I don’t accept it would have been a “knee jerk” reaction. Devs have a year to consider and plan out this event, granted they probably don’t fully focus on it until the latter part of the year but the point remains that they knew how bad this crystal was and went ahead with it anyway. Whales knew how bad it was and continued to buy it - why anyone would sign off on this VIP offer is almost unbelievable but to sign off on the deal and implement it through the back door without letting the rest of the player base know is a disgusting practice when it would have been as easy as a discord/forum message to say by the way these offers are available/unlock under these circumstances. These whales aren’t automatically great players but any paid advantage they would have had at the end of this event has now been directly amplified by Kabam.
To the dev who is offering a post-mortem honestly why bother? It’s not going to satisfy anyone as it’s unlikely kabam will offer any kind of compensation or suitable explanation as to why the grand banquet was such a let down. After all it has proved to be a grand banquet for kabam and I’m sure community resentment is a small price to pay for a financially successful event.
Also almost every single person who quoted me crying “that’s not what we’re saying. We don’t care about the gap” then immediately went on to contradict themselves by saying how it’s unfair that people who spent more are getting more
And my point is the fact that many believe there shouldn’t be a gap after these crystals just because Kabam may have said it would be less of a gap this year. How can you possibly expect the gap to not be huge between someone who spent 185k and someone who is FTP? Okay 185k is a bit of an outlier but what about 20k? It is delusional to think the gap wouldn’t widen between top spenders, which is who the last second “side market” is for, and non spenders.
A fix during their break as if it was an emergency that would break the game if 50 players held resources in overflow before they address a pretty upset community
What is telling though, and why it seems to me that this is a knee jerk reaction to appease mega spenders, is that apparently the SBCs were so imbalanced towards class catalysts that the game team opted to remove any cap limits on this offer to make sure all of the mega spenders would be happy. They didn’t take the time analyze what would be needed to balance the drop rates from the SBC, they simply made it unlimited.
I do think some of the folks who believe that expanding this deal to the rest of us would have hurt the game economy and shortened the life span of 7stars are raising a concern from a logical thought process. But I remain unconvinced that this is the case. Class catalysts and T4as for most of us who participated in the event are probably not in overflow, and if they are are probably not going to provide more than a few extra rank ups. I don’t think that will accelerate things anymore than the need to keep the whales invested in the next chase… which many of them not only have multiple R4s but all the relevant trophy champs at high or max sig… including Jessica Jones. Oh and a 7star of their choice next year… which from watching USAFAs stream it seems spenders at that tier got a preview list too. So all that to say what are they even chasing then coming out of this… and how is that not bad for the game economy? Consider that less than 1% of them carried approximately 10% of the realm score… I’ll let that settle in.
Personally I’m not that fused about getting this deal or not. I do think it makes more sense than not for the team to extend this deal or a version of it to the rest of us, but I’m not going to lose any sleep over it. It would at least offer an olive branch to other spenders that their dollars matter to Kabam as well, if FTPs get to benefit too, who cares, most of them invest so much time and energy into the game they deserve a windfall too.
Most ironic about this thread though… are some of the people who seem to be ok with this band aid patch offer, seem to be the ones who leap on top of others saying “buyer beware” and “it’s not Kabam’s responsibility to manage player inventories”. And here’s a situation where ultimately this would have been the best answer to the situation and they are picking the opposite side. That’s worth a chuckle.
I’m not saying there shouldn’t be a gap or extra privilege for spending at this level… it’s just more a comment on what was communicated to us vs actions.
But this isn’t a conspiracy, I’m confident Crashed and everyone else want the best for everyone and are doing the best they can to balance a galaxy of competing priorities. I didn’t love banquet for several reasons, but I also don’t believe there was a secret plot to screw me over.
Thanks for reconsidering this Crashed and the team!
Yup, perfect. Lol at @Demonzfyre saying we won’t get anything out of the event.
Now you will have to excuse me, I need to make a spreadsheet for my plans with this haha.
A far more generous response than I had expected or even hoped for.
Fast considering how many you use
Um...what??????? For how much????
So, of course, I immediately went to the forums to understand what the heck happened here. Let me say, as somebody who happened upon this offer with zero context, the whole thing is pretty hilarious.
Now I feel like one of those extras in an action movie that sees the protagonist throw a truckload of cash in the air, and just rushes to grab as many bills as they can before the miracle evaporates.
I'll be stuffing my pockets with as much as I can carry, thankyouverymuch!
Also, P.S: go easy on Crashed. We're all people, just trying to do the best we can. He (or she?) has always been open and direct with the community, and even if you disagree with or hate his decisions, please give the dev team the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their intentions. Even when they do accidentally screw us over, you gotta believe it's not their intention in any situation.
Wow they actually listened. This is why I said you post your concerns.
“Close mouths don’t get fed” @Demonzfyre