Trump Tariffs

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  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,815 ★★★★★
    It shouldn't. Unless someone decides that a mobile game produced in Canada is applicable.
  • BosleyBosley Member Posts: 362 ★★★
    edited 7:33PM
    Trump has no idea what he's going to tax.....

    It's no big deal though it's only supposed to start today lolol :D
  • BosleyBosley Member Posts: 362 ★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    I’m 100% sure this won’t affect mcoc though

    Yeah you're probably right the more i think about it..... I hope.
  • Wicket329Wicket329 Member Posts: 3,597 ★★★★★

    The WTO has had a moratorium on customs duties on digital/electronic goods and transactions since the late 1990s. So tariffs would have no impact unless that moratorium stops being renewed by the WTO or the US decides to leave the WTO.

    Is there a 3 letter organization we are still in ? Lol (oops, that's another one, the League of.. whatever)

    Anyways, as to tariffs only on goods when they cross the border. But what if you are buying direct from China (or Canada/Mexico, etc, any that the Tariffs actually apply to) on Amz or such. Hasn’t crossed yet at the time you pay. So would sellers just up their price on listing/shipping, knowing that they will have to pay the tariff once it is actually shipping thru postal ?

    And is there difference between Postal (delivering straight to customers), vs Freight (delivering in quantity to distributors or store, etc) ??
    Sellers typically include tariffs in their prices, just like they do with any expense of doing business. So you’ve already paid for it at the point of purchase.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 20,278 Guardian
    Bosley said:

    So, I live in Canada (Thank God). Does that mean the price of unit packs will go up by 25% depending on what Trump decides to tax?

    Or because KABAM is a Canadian company I'm good but the rest of y'all are screwed? I genuinely don't know..... :|

    The answer to your question is that this depends on how you purchase things for the game, although the answer is similar in either case.

    Important to note first: you do not buy anything directly from Kabam. There is no way to hand Kabam money and get something in the game. When you buy using the in-app purchase mechanism, you are actually buying from Apple or Google. They operate the stores, they collect the money, and they actually set the prices in large part. When a developer creates an item for sale, they give that item a price code. This code then determines the price of that item everywhere Apple or Google operate. You can only set one code for that item, and typically the item code is set based on the USD price of the item. If you set the item to, say, Code 50, then that item might cost $49.99 USD in the US.

    However, that’s where Kabam’s control ends. What it costs in Canada, or Germany, or Australia, is determined by that code. Apple and Google decide what a #50 item costs everywhere else, and they set that price based on what they decide it should cost based not just on currency exchange but also other costs to them: how expensive it is to operate in that region, what their risks are when it comes to currency fluctuations or inflation, any taxes they might pay on revenue earned there, etc. The current exchange rate might imply that a $50 USD item should cost $73 CAD, but Apple can decide to round that to $75 CAD or decide to charge $80 CAD if they are worried the exchange rate will change or $90 CAD if they have to keep cleaning maple syrup off the servers. Kabam has zero say in this.

    What you pay is ultimately determined by the App Store operators, based on what they decide those costs should be relative to the benchmark (which is typically USD in the US region). In general, taxes and tariffs can affect that price (if applicable), but lots of other things can as well. The two biggest questions here are: what the currency exchange rate is, and how costly is it for Apple and Google to operate in the target country. Anything that affects either of those can affect what you pay.

    The webstore is a bit different, but functions in an ultimately similar way. That is operated by a company called xSolla, and they have similar rules by which they operate. I am less familiar with the specifics, but I know price translation is also mostly under their control.


    To the extent that you’re asking a specific question about specific trade policies, speculating on economic policy is probably beyond the scope of the forums without any real information to go on. And it bears repeating that political discussions are discouraged as they generally devolve into inflammatory exchanges. There is no useful purpose to be gained having those discussions here.
  • BosleyBosley Member Posts: 362 ★★★
    SO far I think this has been a fair and cordial discussion. I nor anyone else has mentioned political parties or anything else that would lead to confrontation.

    But if you want to close the thread, whatever......
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 20,278 Guardian
    Bosley said:

    SO far I think this has been a fair and cordial discussion. I nor anyone else has mentioned political parties or anything else that would lead to confrontation.

    But if you want to close the thread, whatever......

    Bosley said:

    SO far I think this has been a fair and cordial discussion. I nor anyone else has mentioned political parties or anything else that would lead to confrontation.

    But if you want to close the thread, whatever......

    If I wanted to close the thread and could do that, then I would have. But that comment was more directed at the thread in general, and not you specifically. I probably should have made that separation more clear.
  • Sundance_2099Sundance_2099 Member Posts: 3,579 ★★★★★
    Strange how an alleged billionaire, supposedly a great businessman, doesn't understand that imposing tariffs causes prices to go up because companies will simply jack their prices to cover the tariffs whilst still getting the same profits, isn't it?

    Hey, are eggs cheaper yet?
  • BosleyBosley Member Posts: 362 ★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    Bosley said:

    SO far I think this has been a fair and cordial discussion. I nor anyone else has mentioned political parties or anything else that would lead to confrontation.

    But if you want to close the thread, whatever......

    Bosley said:

    SO far I think this has been a fair and cordial discussion. I nor anyone else has mentioned political parties or anything else that would lead to confrontation.

    But if you want to close the thread, whatever......

    If I wanted to close the thread and could do that, then I would have. But that comment was more directed at the thread in general, and not you specifically. I probably should have made that separation more clear.
    Thank you
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,815 ★★★★★

    Strange how an alleged billionaire, supposedly a great businessman, doesn't understand that imposing tariffs causes prices to go up because companies will simply jack their prices to cover the tariffs whilst still getting the same profits, isn't it?

    Hey, are eggs cheaper yet?

    Smoke and mirrors.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,678 ★★★★★

    Isn't Kabam a Canadian corporation? So wouldn't any tariffs (if applicable) apply to Americans not Canadians?

    It only applies to imported goods. In-game purchases are not subject to import laws.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,678 ★★★★★

    Strange how an alleged billionaire, supposedly a great businessman, doesn't understand that imposing tariffs causes prices to go up because companies will simply jack their prices to cover the tariffs whilst still getting the same profits, isn't it?

    Hey, are eggs cheaper yet?

    He's a paper billionaire. It's been 12 days but feels like 12 years.
  • Joker1976Joker1976 Member Posts: 830 ★★★

    Strange how an alleged billionaire, supposedly a great businessman, doesn't understand that imposing tariffs causes prices to go up because companies will simply jack their prices to cover the tariffs whilst still getting the same profits, isn't it?

    Hey, are eggs cheaper yet?

    Smoke and mirrors.
    He just did implemented the tariffs.
    If you think it’s all “smoke and mirrors” ..then you’re a bit naive.
    If you underestimate this mans desire for our natural resources or his ambitions for power by any means that is also naive.
  • doctorbdoctorb Member Posts: 1,919 ★★★★

    Bosley said:

    So, I live in Canada (Thank God). Does that mean the price of unit packs will go up by 25% depending on what Trump decides to tax?

    Or because KABAM is a Canadian company I'm good but the rest of y'all are screwed? I genuinely don't know..... :|

    Do y’all not go to school there? This is the most preposterous thing I’ve read in a while!
    "Y'all"???
    I should ask u the same about going to school.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,815 ★★★★★
    Joker1976 said:

    Strange how an alleged billionaire, supposedly a great businessman, doesn't understand that imposing tariffs causes prices to go up because companies will simply jack their prices to cover the tariffs whilst still getting the same profits, isn't it?

    Hey, are eggs cheaper yet?

    Smoke and mirrors.
    He just did implemented the tariffs.
    If you think it’s all “smoke and mirrors” ..then you’re a bit naive.
    If you underestimate this mans desire for our natural resources or his ambitions for power by any means that is also naive.
    I wasn't talking about the action of imposing Tariffs. I'm quite aware that he's capable of stupidity. I mean the whole Tariff situation is smoke and mirrors. Canadian borders have never been a major issue. The smoke and mirrors is a diversion. Make it look like you're doing something productive and distract the people from what you're really doing.
  • Joker1976Joker1976 Member Posts: 830 ★★★

    Joker1976 said:

    Strange how an alleged billionaire, supposedly a great businessman, doesn't understand that imposing tariffs causes prices to go up because companies will simply jack their prices to cover the tariffs whilst still getting the same profits, isn't it?

    Hey, are eggs cheaper yet?

    Smoke and mirrors.
    He just did implemented the tariffs.
    If you think it’s all “smoke and mirrors” ..then you’re a bit naive.
    If you underestimate this mans desire for our natural resources or his ambitions for power by any means that is also naive.
    I wasn't talking about the action of imposing Tariffs. I'm quite aware that he's capable of stupidity. I mean the whole Tariff situation is smoke and mirrors. Canadian borders have never been a major issue. The smoke and mirrors is a diversion. Make it look like you're doing something productive and distract the people from what you're really doing.
    As a fellow Canadian I understand that.
    All i’m saying is i wouldn’t necessarily minimize his actions as making a “political scene” or posturing to “scare some Canadians “.
    I’m not scared,..but i am concerned as i have no doubt he want’s to inflict great economic damage on our country.
    He want’s to go war economically with our country,..as he has stated,..and i have no reason not to believe that he will.
  • Joker1976Joker1976 Member Posts: 830 ★★★
    Time to change my profile pic back to Guardian Canadian flag 🇨🇦 🫡
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,815 ★★★★★
    Joker1976 said:

    Joker1976 said:

    Strange how an alleged billionaire, supposedly a great businessman, doesn't understand that imposing tariffs causes prices to go up because companies will simply jack their prices to cover the tariffs whilst still getting the same profits, isn't it?

    Hey, are eggs cheaper yet?

    Smoke and mirrors.
    He just did implemented the tariffs.
    If you think it’s all “smoke and mirrors” ..then you’re a bit naive.
    If you underestimate this mans desire for our natural resources or his ambitions for power by any means that is also naive.
    I wasn't talking about the action of imposing Tariffs. I'm quite aware that he's capable of stupidity. I mean the whole Tariff situation is smoke and mirrors. Canadian borders have never been a major issue. The smoke and mirrors is a diversion. Make it look like you're doing something productive and distract the people from what you're really doing.
    As a fellow Canadian I understand that.
    All i’m saying is i wouldn’t necessarily minimize his actions as making a “political scene” or posturing to “scare some Canadians “.
    I’m not scared,..but i am concerned as i have no doubt he want’s to inflict great economic damage on our country.
    He want’s to go war economically with our country,..as he has stated,..and i have no reason not to believe that he will.
    Oh, for sure. I'm with you. The time of thinking he's just an absurd showman is over. That was the first time he ran. This time, I'm deeply concerned for society in general.
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