WOW EVEN SEATIN GIVING YOU HEAT

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  • Bigfoot33Bigfoot33 Member Posts: 224 ★★

    This video is much more my voice. The casual player experience sucks… monthly content needs to feel more rewarding than what it has for a long time. And no, no one is asking for it to include an R4 7 star gem in monthly content.

    Have the Everest stuff for the sweaty try hards and the content creators, but quit neglecting the fact there a bunch of valiants out here that aren’t that.

    Yeah especially when I can remember when monthly Eq and side quests were exciting. Hell, the 2 years where they buffed 2 champs per was awesome. And rebalance program wasn't a thing and you wanted to rank a new champ knowing they'll be relevant somewhere. Now, I'm kind of meh towards all of it. I pull a new champ these days, I won't rank them until the rebalance comes AND I see them getting used in content. So in my case, if I'm not getting excited and ranking new champs, mysterium and side quests are pointless. And as for those good tier champs that aren't yet 7-Stars, I already know they are going to put them behind a huge pay wall.
  • LmaoLmao Member Posts: 900 ★★★

    Lmao said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Kabam is doing the best they can

    People need to cry less

    If this is the best they can do then they are **** at their jobs
    How the hell is this guy not banned yet when crashed has been on today? Really showing mods have a lack of no nonsense that I miss with miike and jax.
    Think he just got banned lmao
    You thought wrong
    All in due time I'm sure
  • SuperDavid777_FanSuperDavid777_Fan Member Posts: 27
    Lmao said:

    Lmao said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Kabam is doing the best they can

    People need to cry less

    If this is the best they can do then they are **** at their jobs
    How the hell is this guy not banned yet when crashed has been on today? Really showing mods have a lack of no nonsense that I miss with miike and jax.
    Think he just got banned lmao
    You thought wrong
    All in due time I'm sure
    Keep dreaming ****
  • LmaoLmao Member Posts: 900 ★★★

    Lmao said:

    Lmao said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Kabam is doing the best they can

    People need to cry less

    If this is the best they can do then they are **** at their jobs
    How the hell is this guy not banned yet when crashed has been on today? Really showing mods have a lack of no nonsense that I miss with miike and jax.
    Think he just got banned lmao
    You thought wrong
    All in due time I'm sure
    Keep dreaming ****
    Aight buddy
  • EakomoEakomo Member Posts: 225

    Great video. I agree with a lot of it, some of it I don't, but I always appreciate Seatin's perspective.

    Just out of curiosity, what points do you notably agree/disagree with? You obviously don't need to (and shouldn't) call Seatin out, but I feel providing some more detail will help generate some more constructive debate and also ensure that the playerbase's points are actually being taken into consideration.
    It would take a full post/video the length of his to share my thoughts, but at a high level what I agree with:
    • Monthly content being way behind where it needs to be
    • Rewards and objectives not being communicated well and getting lost in the UI
    • Feeling lost in Sagas
    • Bad Battlegrounds matchmaking experience for large groups of players
    • The knowledge and skill requirements to play at the highest level are insane
    • General lack of desire to chase new champions
    The knowledge and skill point aside, we thankfully have work ongoing to address all of the other points.

    I would say the main thing I disagree with is his assessment of some of the content he talks about, especially story content. We have some user research for instance that says most end-game players enjoy Act 8, whereas he doesn't seem to.
    I believe the main problem with story content that seatin highlight is not enjoyable it can be, but how dependent on getting the right champions to do the path or champion with, or in the most extreme case even having the champion and the path is very unenjoyable (e.g. one of the science paths in 9.1 that had debuff immunity and requires debuff).

  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,496 ★★★★★
    Yeah when seatin stops shilling for crypto maybe I'll take him seriously again
  • Alone13Alone13 Member Posts: 203 ★★
    ahmynuts said:

    For anyone too lazy to look it up but wants to watch it
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9Hibs11FNo

    On your left 😂😂
  • SuperDavid777_FanSuperDavid777_Fan Member Posts: 27

    Great video. I agree with a lot of it, some of it I don't, but I always appreciate Seatin's perspective.

    Shut your mouth
    Wow... you really are a special kind of stupid 😮‍💨
    Clout chasing ****
  • SuperDavid777_FanSuperDavid777_Fan Member Posts: 27
    edited March 23
    ahmynuts said:

    Great video. I agree with a lot of it, some of it I don't, but I always appreciate Seatin's perspective.

    Shut your mouth
    Wow... you really are a special kind of stupid 😮‍💨
    Clout chasing ****

    Aren’t you the guy that was in forum jail? You should be on my side not against me. These mods are abusing their power
  • LmaoLmao Member Posts: 900 ★★★

    ahmynuts said:

    Great video. I agree with a lot of it, some of it I don't, but I always appreciate Seatin's perspective.

    Shut your mouth
    Wow... you really are a special kind of stupid 😮‍💨
    Clout chasing ****

    Aren’t you the guy that was in forum jail? You should be on my side not against me. These mods are abusing their power
    Like I said, All in due time
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,955 ★★★★★

    ahmynuts said:

    Great video. I agree with a lot of it, some of it I don't, but I always appreciate Seatin's perspective.

    Shut your mouth
    Wow... you really are a special kind of stupid 😮‍💨
    Clout chasing ****

    Aren’t you the guy that was in forum jail? You should be on my side not against me. These mods are abusing their power

  • Awesomep12Awesomep12 Member Posts: 1,707 ★★★★

    Great video. I agree with a lot of it, some of it I don't, but I always appreciate Seatin's perspective.

    Just out of curiosity, what points do you notably agree/disagree with? You obviously don't need to (and shouldn't) call Seatin out, but I feel providing some more detail will help generate some more constructive debate and also ensure that the playerbase's points are actually being taken into consideration.
    It would take a full post/video the length of his to share my thoughts, but at a high level what I agree with:
    • Monthly content being way behind where it needs to be
    • Rewards and objectives not being communicated well and getting lost in the UI
    • Feeling lost in Sagas
    • Bad Battlegrounds matchmaking experience for large groups of players
    • The knowledge and skill requirements to play at the highest level are insane
    • General lack of desire to chase new champions
    The knowledge and skill point aside, we thankfully have work ongoing to address all of the other points.

    I would say the main thing I disagree with is his assessment of some of the content he talks about, especially story content. We have some user research for instance that says most end-game players enjoy Act 8, whereas he doesn't seem to.
    I loved act 8. Other than that, I agree with most of what seatin said. Also, make 9.2 healthpools a bit lower pls. 500k for one champ is too much. I don't want each fight to be 10 mins
  • destroy456destroy456 Member Posts: 32

    Great video. I agree with a lot of it, some of it I don't, but I always appreciate Seatin's perspective.

    Just out of curiosity, what points do you notably agree/disagree with? You obviously don't need to (and shouldn't) call Seatin out, but I feel providing some more detail will help generate some more constructive debate and also ensure that the playerbase's points are actually being taken into consideration.
    It would take a full post/video the length of his to share my thoughts, but at a high level what I agree with:
    • Monthly content being way behind where it needs to be
    • Rewards and objectives not being communicated well and getting lost in the UI
    • Feeling lost in Sagas
    • Bad Battlegrounds matchmaking experience for large groups of players
    • The knowledge and skill requirements to play at the highest level are insane
    • General lack of desire to chase new champions
    The knowledge and skill point aside, we thankfully have work ongoing to address all of the other points.

    I would say the main thing I disagree with is his assessment of some of the content he talks about, especially story content. We have some user research for instance that says most end-game players enjoy Act 8, whereas he doesn't seem to.
    This is interesting. Is the user research that says end-game players enjoy act 8 the surveys you send out? Or another way? It’s curious to see how you know players enjoy content.

    We do surveys and focus groups.
    Thank you for sharing your opinion about this matter but I have a question why did the devs change the BG objectives in the previous 2 chase champs you got the magentro crystal and the ticket in the bg objectives why did you move it to the end of VC wouldn't have been better if you kept it like the same format like the last 2 chase champs bg objectives. I would love to hear the honest feedback Crashed.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    ahmynuts said:

    Great video. I agree with a lot of it, some of it I don't, but I always appreciate Seatin's perspective.

    Shut your mouth
    Wow... you really are a special kind of stupid 😮‍💨
    Clout chasing ****

    Aren’t you the guy that was in forum jail? You should be on my side not against me. These mods are abusing their power
    Unfortunately, the mods can only close your posts. The live ops team, on the other hand, can track down your main game account and permanently ban it. Even if you haven’t logged in for the past three weeks.

    Hypothetically speaking, of course.
    They already banned his forum account (again).
  • Mirac1eMirac1e Member Posts: 72

    Great video. I agree with a lot of it, some of it I don't, but I always appreciate Seatin's perspective.

    Just out of curiosity, what points do you notably agree/disagree with? You obviously don't need to (and shouldn't) call Seatin out, but I feel providing some more detail will help generate some more constructive debate and also ensure that the playerbase's points are actually being taken into consideration.
    It would take a full post/video the length of his to share my thoughts, but at a high level what I agree with:
    • Monthly content being way behind where it needs to be
    • Rewards and objectives not being communicated well and getting lost in the UI
    • Feeling lost in Sagas
    • Bad Battlegrounds matchmaking experience for large groups of players
    • The knowledge and skill requirements to play at the highest level are insane
    • General lack of desire to chase new champions
    The knowledge and skill point aside, we thankfully have work ongoing to address all of the other points.

    I would say the main thing I disagree with is his assessment of some of the content he talks about, especially story content. We have some user research for instance that says most end-game players enjoy Act 8, whereas he doesn't seem to.
    One thing i hated about act 8 was some gimmick nodes where "If you do this thing, you would do a million damage on your heavy attack/special 2", but i hated the specific node only, also the heavy lag issue on certain stages ( Road to knowhere and Asgard vault)...I think story content are fine, other than that they are being released at a very slow pace compared to the other content, which is understandable
  • BoombzyBoombzy Member Posts: 30


    General lack of desire to chase new champions
    Just skimmed through a RTM video and laughed at this.

    There is no "chasing" new champions. There is a massive paywall behind these new champions ie Bastion and a delay upon release. The only way you get these is through titans and titans are hard to obtain and to get one of these new champs is even harder with the filler champs.

    Rest of the comment was pretty spot on.
  • BosleyBosley Member Posts: 510 ★★★
    edited March 26
  • StronstVngrStronstVngr Member Posts: 229
    edited March 26
    Been playing the game for some time now, and this is the 2nd time I've seen the community raising issues to try and get the game to improve, which usually begins with the whales like Seatin, Rich the Man, and Lagecy pointing out the situation for the rest of the community.

    I've been an officer, and a leader in the game, and can agree with most of what is being said. I don't believe that the game will stop being available, but if the "game team", whoever that actually is, doesn't start listening to the community, like they claim to, things will not look good for the future of MCOC. That said, there is room to make the game better. I really do hope things get better, and the game gets back to its enjoyable level.

    To me, currently, there's just WAY too much content to try and get done. When I first started, there were simple goals to accomplish, such as AQ, and war maps, and then side quests. Also one of the most enjoyable pieces of the game was the gifting event, which is a far cry from what it used to be now. The last one was not enjoyable at all. I only participated so my alliance could get the rewards. I understand that kabam needs to be "successful" to have the game stick around, but things don't need to be so big, and lengthy.

    At any rate, I hope @KabamDORK sees this and is able to understand exactly what us, as the game community, is trying to say.
    Thanks!

    FYI: totally forgot about the raids "nightmare" situation. WTH is that about exactly? Again, WAY too much content to do....
  • DocWestDocWest Member Posts: 450 ★★★
    Kam’s video has been the best one on this subject so far. He did it calmly, eloquently and fairly.
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