I'm pretty sure it says in the ToS that you can't. I believe it's section 5.2, but I don't know it off the top of my head.
My favorite part of the ToS is 4.2 though, which is what happened here today.
Modified application means that any other content has been loaded into its content with 3rd party software and affected the game. There is no content change in armeabi v7a apk versions, they are not modified. If you have a problem with lagging and freezing on an old device like mine, you can find and install 32 bit armeabi v7a versions from pages like apkmirror. This is actually the issue you do not want to understand. Installing any application as ARMV7a ARM64 does not mean that it has been modified or affected. If you do not use the google play store, using an unaffected apk does not violate Kabam's user agreement. If it did, there would be no need for this discussion and I would accept my guilt I am someone who plays the game for fun without any different effects. You choose to be a standard user, I choose to be a slightly more advanced user, the only difference between us is this. I find it hard to be put in the same bowl with cheats
And my friend, I have been downloading and installing mcoc as armeabi v7a from apkmiror for more than 5 years. This is not a situation that started today.
Glad to know you read ALL of the ToS. I said I think it's in 5.2. It's in there, of that I'm fairly confident. And even on the chance that it's not, they are obviously implementing new measures , which is covered on 4.1
I would like to argue with you about this for hours, but since you don't want to understand, it's impossible to tell you anything. There is not the slightest difference between the game you installed from the Play Store and the game I installed from the apkmirror page. I could have uploaded the SS of the game I installed from the Play Store right now to deceive you, I could have said I installed it from here, but I didn't do that either First of all, the violation of the terms of service cannot be explained by installing from another site. There is a very simple method for this, if the game starts with a few SS's at the entrance, 50% of the cheats will actually be revealed. The advanced 50% part (downloaded the game from the Play Store and modded it) requires a little detailed follow-up, that's all. You stubbornly tell me that you are guilty of installing the game from the Play Store. What I want to tell you is this (WHEN YOU INSTALL THE GAME FROM THE PLAY STORE AND UPDATE IT WITH THE DAMN APK, IT WILL ALSO APPEAR TO BE INSTALLED FROM THE PLAY STORE)
How can you be innocent and also in violation of the terms of service? Downloading the game through an APK is against ToS. You're not innocent.
How can downloading the game as apk be against the rules? Are you downloading it from Google Play Store as a grape cake? My friend, if you are using custom os and do not like Google services and telemetry system, you install the game this way, that is the case. Using cheats is a different situation, installing the game in 32 bit armeabiv7a version is a different situation. Please do not blame innocent people for something you are not aware of, instead of other people you are angry with.
you may not be cheating but custom operating systems are against the TOS. there's a reason they don't allow using modified software because the threat of cheating is always there.
This is what I want to say. Accounts cannot be banned in this way. You may not be a cheater, but using a special operating system constitutes a crime, meaning that you will be banned tomorrow because of any application you use. Kabam is not an inexperienced company, it had the capacity and experience to predict what this issue would bring upon you. Believe me, my friend, because you are silent today and hostile to cheaters. Tomorrow, while you are innocent like me, they will close your account too and never care.
No they won't, because we downloaded and play the game the way it was intended to. They' trying to explain to you why you got banned and you're pretty much replying with I don't care did you even read what they explained? So dense.
I used the game as intended. I didn't make any changes, my friend. I used one of the operating systems that I'm sure they use. The issue here is not cheating, it's that players are also harmed. This wave is an acceptable process, but don't you think innocent people should be found and saved from the punishment they are involved in? Open source and free software are also available on the Play Store. Will your response be like this when one day they detect one of them and your account is closed?
You downloaded the game through an APK and therefore you're breaking ToS. You didn't get banned before because they didn't have this system that helps them detect third party software, modding etc a lot faster, this however doesn't mean you weren't already breaking ToS back then. It's unfortunate if you aren't actually modding but if this is going to solve majority of all modding issues then unfortunately it is what it is, you guys are collateral damage but it's what needs to be done if we want this game to keep running for as long as possible.
Have you ever heard of an apple tree being cut down because it had too many rotten parts? The weakness of their new system is that it uproots the tree, my friend. And this will eventually cause a loss of players. This is just nonsense. People who understand code directories can download the game from the play store and use the immobile enemy cheat by messing with the code directories of the apk file that is loaded directly onto the phone. All they have to do is turn off the autoplay and switch both sides to manual mode. Long story short, this system is nothing but a faulty system from the start.
1. They'll lose some but they'll gain more when we barely have any modders in BGs thanks to this new system. 2. It's not faulty, it's clearly doing what it's designed to do, you're just collateral damage.
I hope one day when you become a collateral damage, instead of trying to protect your rights, everyone will take sides against you, my brother. Because believe me, it is painful to be blind enough to look down on innocent people trying to prove themselves, and I hope you share this pain I have been using armeabi v7a apk version apks for 5 years. I put graphics in the background in games and prioritize stability and high fps. There are hundreds of thousands of people like me, and Kabam has a large development team and they are aware of this. You will understand me when you continue to encounter cheats in BG
I won't because I downloaded the game from the play store, and I'm sure we won't be seeing as many modders anymore either. Like I said, it's not that I'm looking down on you, I'm simply saying if this is what it takes to stop modders then unfortunately it has to be done.
If you install the game from the Play Store, then download the cheat mod and reinstall it like an update, the game will continue to appear as if it was installed from the Play Store. This shouldn't be this hard to understand, my good friend.
Hmmm if you are right about that then I do wonder how you seem to know so much about how modding works pal.
It would be strange to think that someone who has been downloading 32 bit apk for years because they want higher fps and less graphics in the game wouldn't understand such a simple thing Simple things for people who sideload their phones and install open source software from places like github. Considering how much you spend on your phone as you do on a PC, it indicates that you should learn and use your own devices. I wish you success in this journey. Using a device that belongs to you is fun sorry for wrong writting because translate ''
So you know how modding works because you know how other stuff that has nothing to do with modding works, got it. Totally makes sense! Silly me 💀
How pathetic is it not to be able to express your opinion. Since you can't say you are a modder, you can say, "Oh my stupidity, how do you understand mods so much?" My simple answer to you is that I don't act like you and other mods. While you are hanging out on the hub, I am researching the YouTube attacking medusa method. While you are watching women on Instagram, I am researching how to understand a software on YouTube and yes, there are places where I use mods, like spoti or YouTube. Or when the day of an application called proxifier on my computer ends, I reset its day from regedit files (I balance it with donations). The issue you don't want to understand is actually very simple. Both Kabam employees know the page I call apk mirror very well and they are the founders of a name like Android Police, etc. You can find it with a little research. But it is hard to explain this to people like you who are addicted to hubs and Instagram girls, whose minds do nothing but bully people I can't answer you anymore because I can't cope with your ignorance, I apologize
bro you rooted your device to install a custom OS obviously your gonna get banned and you deserve it TBH!
First of all, my device is not rooted, brother The site I downloaded the game from is also apkmirror. It does not contain cheats. If you think that a special system is a reason for a ban, all brands that use Android use their own different systems under the same roof as themes. My theme is lineageos because I do not like Google services As for the subject of you deserved to be banned, if you do not want to understand the mistake of this system today, you should take the risk of not complaining when you are banned tomorrow Companies exist with us. As long as I do not use cheats and do not affect the game, I do not understand why you have such a narrow perspective that you think I deserve to be banned.
Your trying to defend yourself when you clearly broken the TOS from KABAM. Custom ROMS need a rooted device, I know this as I used to be into the CustomOS years ago but stopped. APKMIRROR is sideloading the app, it is not a trusted place from which KABAM uses so yes your banned, SIMPLE!
bro you rooted your device to install a custom OS obviously your gonna get banned and you deserve it TBH!
First of all, my device is not rooted, brother The site I downloaded the game from is also apkmirror. It does not contain cheats. If you think that a special system is a reason for a ban, all brands that use Android use their own different systems under the same roof as themes. My theme is lineageos because I do not like Google services As for the subject of you deserved to be banned, if you do not want to understand the mistake of this system today, you should take the risk of not complaining when you are banned tomorrow Companies exist with us. As long as I do not use cheats and do not affect the game, I do not understand why you have such a narrow perspective that you think I deserve to be banned.
Deserves has nothing to do with it. You broke the rules, so you were banned.
Kabam can make any rules it wants, and you have to follow them. But in this case, the rules aren't arbitrary. Things like emulated or custom environments, or unauthorized clients, have the potential to allow for undetectable cheating. That's why they are banned. It doesn't matter if you claim to not cheat, that's irrelevant. The point is you're using software Kabam has decided to prohibit specifically because it can faciliate cheating, and in ways difficult or impossible to detect.
Once you allow people to change the client in any way you have no way to prove absolutely it wasn't changed in ways that would allow for cheating. Once you allow people to download the clients from anywhere they want there's no way to prove it wasn't altered in some way. And once you allow people to run the client in custom or unsupported environments there's no way to trust any information it sends to the game servers. In all these situations, cheating becomes theoretically undetectable and unblockable.
We're all not just going to take everyone's word for it that you won't actually do any of these things. And trying to turn this into some Robin Hood situation is completely misplaced. This isn't some weird corporate abuse of power. You can do whatever you want with your device. But Kabam gets to decide if you get to talk to their servers with your software. If you use their software distributed their way, you can. If not, you can't. You have no right to tell other people what they can and cannot do with their systems.
There's no point in arguing these NPCs op. Rather than investing in anti cheat system and trying to figure out a way which can detect irregular behaviour ( which would cost them money). They went for a all killing red button. You don't amputate an arm if your one finger gets infected. The concept of custom ROMs or Google being region locked or PlayStore being inaccessible is something they can't comprehend. All they care about is modders getting banned regardless of whoever gets screwed over in the process. Theres literally no ingenuity in this solution and I'm pretty sure modders would be back in a season.
There's no point in arguing these NPCs op. Rather than investing in anti cheat system and trying to figure out a way which can detect irregular behaviour ( which would cost them money). They went for a all killing red button. You don't amputate an arm if your one finger gets infected. The concept of custom ROMs or Google being region locked or PlayStore being inaccessible is something they can't comprehend. All they care about is modders getting banned regardless of whoever gets screwed over in the process. Theres literally no ingenuity in this solution and I'm pretty sure modders would be back in a season.
There is no such thing as an anti-cheat system that will work if you do not have control over the end points.
There's no point in arguing these NPCs op. Rather than investing in anti cheat system and trying to figure out a way which can detect irregular behaviour ( which would cost them money). They went for a all killing red button. You don't amputate an arm if your one finger gets infected. The concept of custom ROMs or Google being region locked or PlayStore being inaccessible is something they can't comprehend. All they care about is modders getting banned regardless of whoever gets screwed over in the process. Theres literally no ingenuity in this solution and I'm pretty sure modders would be back in a season.
This is the best way to get rid of modders. Unless you root your phone there is no way around this new detection and most people don't know how or want to do that. There is another way but it's hard to explain to people that don't understand the topic.
There's no point in arguing these NPCs op. Rather than investing in anti cheat system and trying to figure out a way which can detect irregular behaviour ( which would cost them money). They went for a all killing red button. You don't amputate an arm if your one finger gets infected. The concept of custom ROMs or Google being region locked or PlayStore being inaccessible is something they can't comprehend. All they care about is modders getting banned regardless of whoever gets screwed over in the process. Theres literally no ingenuity in this solution and I'm pretty sure modders would be back in a season.
There is no such thing as an anti-cheat system that will work if you do not have control over the end points.
Does the anti-cheat system need root to your device?
There's no point in arguing these NPCs op. Rather than investing in anti cheat system and trying to figure out a way which can detect irregular behaviour ( which would cost them money). They went for a all killing red button. You don't amputate an arm if your one finger gets infected. The concept of custom ROMs or Google being region locked or PlayStore being inaccessible is something they can't comprehend. All they care about is modders getting banned regardless of whoever gets screwed over in the process. Theres literally no ingenuity in this solution and I'm pretty sure modders would be back in a season.
There is no such thing as an anti-cheat system that will work if you do not have control over the end points.
Does the anti-cheat system need root to your device?
No anti cheat will ever require you to root your device. If anything, rooting makes it easier to mod.
But the pc version needs a kernel/root level driver?
Kernel level anti cheat just means the anti cheat has access to your computer's memory. This allows it to detect if any game manipulating software is being ran. "Root level" and "Rooting" your phone are two separate things.
This is all kernel level means? Ok. You’re really good at this.
Rooting your phone lets you take control rather than someone else.
Yeah, Rooting your phone gives you administrator access which is what allows you to modify game files, bypass file Integrity checks, and patch apks. Rooting is essentially being given the key to the game files while kernel level anti cheat is giving the key to your computer.
This is all kernel level means? Ok. You’re really good at this.
Rooting your phone lets you take control rather than someone else.
Kernel level access is the highest level of access you can get. That's not great. This is why lots of folks kicked and screamed about Easy Anti-cheat. Giving a third party essentially free reign to do who knows what to your device is always problematic.
If you trust EAC won't itself be compromised or sold to someone who'll have lots of ideas of what to do with their access, then it's no problem. Of course, if they F up your device because of a conflict, good luck with that lawsuit.
Giving yourself administration access to your device is somehow worse than giving a random game absolute control over your computer?
In terms of cheating, yes. Rooting your phone would let you have a modded client that still retains Google play services as opposed to a non rooted phone that can only login through kabam. I know it sounds crazy but the truth is that kernel level anti cheats are the most effective at preventing cheaters. There is a reason why valorant has very little cheaters while counter strike has one basically in every match.
There's no point in arguing these NPCs op. Rather than investing in anti cheat system and trying to figure out a way which can detect irregular behaviour ( which would cost them money). They went for a all killing red button. You don't amputate an arm if your one finger gets infected. The concept of custom ROMs or Google being region locked or PlayStore being inaccessible is something they can't comprehend. All they care about is modders getting banned regardless of whoever gets screwed over in the process. Theres literally no ingenuity in this solution and I'm pretty sure modders would be back in a season.
There is no such thing as an anti-cheat system that will work if you do not have control over the end points.
Does the anti-cheat system need root to your device?
What it needs is the ability to not be itself circumvented. Many PC-based anti-cheat systems install as kernel drivers for this reason - so the user of the computer can't override it. But on mobile devices, game developers can usually rely upon those (vanilla Android and iOS in particular) being locked down to prevent most forms of tampering. That's why emulators are prohibited. Kabam can reasonably trust what is and is not possible on an unrooted Apple or Android device. They cannot trust anything that happens on a virtual or emulated environment.
This is all kernel level means? Ok. You’re really good at this.
Rooting your phone lets you take control rather than someone else.
Kernel level access is the highest level of access you can get. That's not great. This is why lots of folks kicked and screamed about Easy Anti-cheat. Giving a third party essentially free reign to do who knows what to your device is always problematic.
If you trust EAC won't itself be compromised or sold to someone who'll have lots of ideas of what to do with their access, then it's no problem. Of course, if they F up your device because of a conflict, good luck with that lawsuit.
EAC is used on the MCOC Windows client. If you're worried about a third party vendor having 100% control over your devices, what are you doing running Windows? Are you still running Windows XP?
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Kabam can make any rules it wants, and you have to follow them. But in this case, the rules aren't arbitrary. Things like emulated or custom environments, or unauthorized clients, have the potential to allow for undetectable cheating. That's why they are banned. It doesn't matter if you claim to not cheat, that's irrelevant. The point is you're using software Kabam has decided to prohibit specifically because it can faciliate cheating, and in ways difficult or impossible to detect.
Once you allow people to change the client in any way you have no way to prove absolutely it wasn't changed in ways that would allow for cheating. Once you allow people to download the clients from anywhere they want there's no way to prove it wasn't altered in some way. And once you allow people to run the client in custom or unsupported environments there's no way to trust any information it sends to the game servers. In all these situations, cheating becomes theoretically undetectable and unblockable.
We're all not just going to take everyone's word for it that you won't actually do any of these things. And trying to turn this into some Robin Hood situation is completely misplaced. This isn't some weird corporate abuse of power. You can do whatever you want with your device. But Kabam gets to decide if you get to talk to their servers with your software. If you use their software distributed their way, you can. If not, you can't. You have no right to tell other people what they can and cannot do with their systems.
Rather than investing in anti cheat system and trying to figure out a way which can detect irregular behaviour ( which would cost them money). They went for a all killing red button.
You don't amputate an arm if your one finger gets infected.
The concept of custom ROMs or Google being region locked or PlayStore being inaccessible is something they can't comprehend.
All they care about is modders getting banned regardless of whoever gets screwed over in the process.
Theres literally no ingenuity in this solution and I'm pretty sure modders would be back in a season.
Rooting your phone lets you take control rather than someone else.
If you trust EAC won't itself be compromised or sold to someone who'll have lots of ideas of what to do with their access, then it's no problem. Of course, if they F up your device because of a conflict, good luck with that lawsuit.
It’s WAY too much.
But, I am absolutely for installing the correct iOS and Android versions of the game.
Please do that.