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If you can nerf new champs fast, why can't you buff them just as fast? Sentry

New_Noob168New_Noob168 Member Posts: 1,585 ★★★★
in General Discussion
Sentry is suppose to be the strongest champ in the Marvel Universe? What happened.

Please buff him. You seem to nerf champs real fast when there is a clear advantage to them, how come you can't buff them just as fast?

Also, why isn't he poison free or have any other immunity since he is basically a god in Marvel?
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  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,523 ★★★★★
    Do we really need another Post on him?
  • ApacheApache Member Posts: 558 ★★
    GroundedWisdom wrote: »
    Do we really need another Post on him?

    Fur real
  • Mattikus42Mattikus42 Member Posts: 33 ★
    Yes. Yes we do lol
  • SheildcoreSheildcore Member Posts: 2
    Seriously, I think Sentry is a faith for some Marvel fans like me. Kabam just couldn't understand what Sentry meant to us. Sentry is not like Carnage who does have a such cool appearance, apart of that, Carnage isn't really a strong villain in comice book. Sentry actually eliminated Carnage instantly.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,523 ★★★★★
    Mattikus42 wrote: »
    Yes. Yes we do lol

    Not so much. We have several floating around, plus the actual Thread on him.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,523 ★★★★★
    DaMunk wrote: »
    GroundedWisdom wrote: »
    Do we really need another Post on him?

    Absolutely we do. He's freaking horrible. Not to mention you are the first person to say you're entitled to your opinion whenever people disagree with you. So suck it up buttercup.

    People are entitled to their opinion. No arguments there. What we don't need to do is spam the Forum on the same subject when there are already Threads to express those opinions in.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,523 ★★★★★
    Now you're just making it personal. I suppose we are both prone to repetitive behavior.
  • danielmathdanielmath Member Posts: 4,079 ★★★★★
    DaMunk wrote: »
    GroundedWisdom wrote: »
    Do we really need another Post on him?

    Absolutely we do. He's freaking horrible. Not to mention you are the first person to say you're entitled to your opinion whenever people disagree with you. So suck it up buttercup.

    this same **** has been posted on a bunch of threads, it should have been deleted within a minute of it being posted
  • TempestTempest Member Posts: 295 ★
    Multiple threads clog up the forums, which force the mods to merge the threads... which in turn means that they have read said multiple threads... and I guess the idea is if they have read them, then they know how we feel about them and might do something about our concerns? Take them to the game dev team?

    I don't know.. but..

    #buffsentry
  • I_ZERO_II_ZERO_I Member Posts: 104 ★
    They need to make him double immune and activate states at 50% and only then might he be an average champ. Ridiculous.
  • CuteshelfCuteshelf Member Posts: 747 ★★★
    GroundedWisdom wrote: »
    Do we really need another Post on him?

    Might be time for another ‘Buff Carnage’ post...
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,523 ★★★★★
    I'm not telling anyone not to express their opinions. They're free to do so. What I'm saying is there's no use in spamming the Forum with the same thing over and over across multiple Threads. There are rules to posting that point that fact out. Besides that, it doesn't get the point across any better than commenting on the Threads allocated already. All it does is fill the Forum with the same thing, and make more work for the Mods. We don't need to fill the Forum to express those opinions. I'm sure they can gather that people aren't happy with him by commenting on the ones already open.
  • R4GER4GE Member Posts: 1,530 ★★★★
    GroundedWisdom wrote: »
    I'm not telling anyone not to express their opinions. They're free to do so. What I'm saying is there's no use in spamming the Forum with the same thing over and over across multiple Threads. There are rules to posting that point that fact out. Besides that, it doesn't get the point across any better than commenting on the Threads allocated already. All it does is fill the Forum with the same thing, and make more work for the Mods. We don't need to fill the Forum to express those opinions. I'm sure they can gather that people aren't happy with him by commenting on the ones already open.

    Pretty much what people ask you not to do in the comments of every single thread
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  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,523 ★★★★★
    R4GE wrote: »
    GroundedWisdom wrote: »
    I'm not telling anyone not to express their opinions. They're free to do so. What I'm saying is there's no use in spamming the Forum with the same thing over and over across multiple Threads. There are rules to posting that point that fact out. Besides that, it doesn't get the point across any better than commenting on the Threads allocated already. All it does is fill the Forum with the same thing, and make more work for the Mods. We don't need to fill the Forum to express those opinions. I'm sure they can gather that people aren't happy with him by commenting on the ones already open.

    Pretty much what people ask you not to do in the comments of every single thread
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    Flagging a comment as Spam does not make it spam. You're not new here. You are aware that people abuse the Flags when they don't agree with opinions. I'm not doing this little dance with you. You're trying to start a personal argument, so this is where I ignore you.
  • R4GER4GE Member Posts: 1,530 ★★★★
    GroundedWisdom wrote: »
    R4GE wrote: »
    GroundedWisdom wrote: »
    I'm not telling anyone not to express their opinions. They're free to do so. What I'm saying is there's no use in spamming the Forum with the same thing over and over across multiple Threads. There are rules to posting that point that fact out. Besides that, it doesn't get the point across any better than commenting on the Threads allocated already. All it does is fill the Forum with the same thing, and make more work for the Mods. We don't need to fill the Forum to express those opinions. I'm sure they can gather that people aren't happy with him by commenting on the ones already open.

    Pretty much what people ask you not to do in the comments of every single thread
    3rwc5np78eao.png

    Flagging a comment as Spam does not make it spam. You're not new here. You are aware that people abuse the Flags when they don't agree with opinions. I'm not doing this little dance with you. You're trying to start a personal argument, so this is where I ignore you.

    Always personal attacks when you get a rebuttal. You regurgitate the same nonsense over and over (spam). Also, you don't need to run around playing the role of a moderator. This thread, and any other like it can be handled by them. To often you try to play the role and when not doing that, spamming the hell out of other threads.
  • CuteshelfCuteshelf Member Posts: 747 ★★★
    Come on guys. Keep this on topic.

    Buffing sentry is more of a concern that the semantics of spam.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,523 ★★★★★
    That's because an exploitable loop is a priority. We know they don't buff new Champs right away. They gather more data on them. There is a difference between something that can be used to exploit many Resources, and a Champ that doesn't perform as good as people want.
  • DaMunkDaMunk Member Posts: 1,883 ★★★★
    They can move pretty fast when they want to. It usually involves something that benefits the player base, not always but usually. They should move on this though. He's really horrible. I mean just look how many threads there are on how bad he is.
  • CuteshelfCuteshelf Member Posts: 747 ★★★
    GroundedWisdom wrote: »
    That's because an exploitable loop is a priority. We know they don't buff new Champs right away. They gather more data on them. There is a difference between something that can be used to exploit many Resources, and a Champ that doesn't perform as good as people want.

    I think they moved too quick to fix carbage.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,523 ★★★★★
    It has nothing to do with benefitting anyone. I'm not sure how familiar with Development you are, but Exploits are a high priority. When you have something that can be used to gain unfair advantages and allow people access to thousands of dollars worth of Resources without intended effort, that's a problem. Besides the imbalances it causes the entire Resource economy, it also means that the work to repair it compounds. You can't leave things like that. It's not about being mean to the Players or keeping them from getting anything. It's about priorities.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,523 ★★★★★
    People really need to learn what Spam is. That doesn't include opinions you don't like, or comments made by people you don't agree with.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,523 ★★★★★
    There is a huge difference, actually. One was an exploit that could have been used all over the game to fast-track Wins. The other is a Champ that is considered bad. The difference is the effect that is caused from leaving an Exploit.
  • DaMunkDaMunk Member Posts: 1,883 ★★★★
    GroundedWisdom wrote: »
    People really need to learn what Spam is. That doesn't include opinions you don't like, or comments made by people you don't agree with.

    Really..holy ****. You have 3k in spam. You have the nerve to tell others what to do? I tried to ignore your spamming of this thread but you just keep going. Now play the victim...maybe if you treated people with respect and shut the heck up you would learn something. Your just absolutely miserable.
    You are not a mod. You don't have any right to insist that people refrain from starting topics. You are ruining a new thread yet again. Stop it!.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,523 ★★★★★
    I don't think you understand the difference. They are careful with revising new Champs. They can't just adjust every Champ that people don't like. There has to be some type of data to base it on. Meaning, they have to allow them to perform in the game, and in different areas, and analyze how they are functioning. There has to be a need. Otherwise they're just adjusting every Champ that has a negative review, and there are repercussions to that. The game is a balancing act. You can't just buff Champs and not have an effect on the overall system.
    When you have a "sick Champ" that can spread "sickness" by way of an Exploit, that is a large priority. That means you have to come up with a solution fast because the longer they stay in the game in that state, the more problems compound. Which means the usual protocol of waiting to gather data has to take a back seat. They're not the same situations at all. They may involve Champs that need adjustment, but wanting a Champ to be buffed doesn't become a need unless there is a reason. An Exploit would be a ticket to the front of the bus. Really don't know how else I can explain it. They're not going to leave a cheat in the game. That comes first.
  • Achilleous_07Achilleous_07 Member Posts: 22 ★
    It looks like Kabam didn’t even play test him before release.
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,672 ★★★★★
    GroundedWisdom wrote: »
    I don't think you understand the difference. They are careful with revising new Champs. They can't just adjust every Champ that people don't like. There has to be some type of data to base it on. Meaning, they have to allow them to perform in the game, and in different areas, and analyze how they are functioning. There has to be a need. Otherwise they're just adjusting every Champ that has a negative review, and there are repercussions to that. The game is a balancing act. You can't just buff Champs and not have an effect on the overall system.
    When you have a "sick Champ" that can spread "sickness" by way of an Exploit, that is a large priority. That means you have to come up with a solution fast because the longer they stay in the game in that state, the more problems compound. Which means the usual protocol of waiting to gather data has to take a back seat. They're not the same situations at all. They may involve Champs that need adjustment, but wanting a Champ to be buffed doesn't become a need unless there is a reason. An Exploit would be a ticket to the front of the bus. Really don't know how else I can explain it. They're not going to leave a cheat in the game. That comes first.

    OK, let's grant the point. Let's agree that fixing exploits comes first. That doesn't really deal with the point of the post. They fixed Kang very quickly. They "fixed" Carnage before he was even released. They have admitted that the Carnage fix/nerf went too far, and we are still waiting for them to address this with a buff. It shouldn't require a year of "gathering data" to buff a champ which doesn't perform as expected.
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