Arena

RicardobaltoRicardobalto Posts: 112
edited May 13 in General Discussion
Getting a little mad at arena streak formula. I am a pure arena grinder and I was working my way to get captain America and I just landed to 10,5 million points (more is needed I know) but since before 9million points I faced a DeathSquad out of nowhere at streak 265 O.o I used a champions of rank3 of 4* with PI over 9000 which would make it a safe win... but I lost my streak anyway but I wasn’t mad as the AI was just being insane and only wanted to safe it’s power to sp3 -.- I lost and I proceeded anyway to build a new streak with some units and it went all fine until faced another DeathSquad out of NOWHERE AGAIN at streak 37??? I still had 4* champs of rank4 so it’s just unusual that this DeathSquad came out of nowhere. I tried my best to bait their powers with no avail :/ I proceeded again cause the new captain America was my motivation to get him knowing he’s almighty powerful in there and there so I build a new streak formula with some units AGAIN... and DeathSquad at streak 40 and this time with 4* of r5!... R5... the highest PI to secure my win but no, I simply lost because the squad didn’t wanted to give in to baiting trick :o and it made my mad cause I used over 200 units to build streak 3 times.... 3times!! I never needed to do that as once was enough and sometimes second was needed but very rarely but 3 times?? Something is fishy here
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  • Romo790Romo790 Posts: 28
    Same thing happened to me last night. Was over 300 wins and ran into this out of nowhere...... if I had my 4/40's this wouldn't have been a problem. Spent units to find a new match but kept getting these same 3 teams all 5 times. I even waited 30 mins and tried to find a new match and got these teams again. So went with the gwenpool team knowing I can take her out but she ended up having quake and morningstar on her team. I didn't do so well against them lol. Bled to death from attacking morningstar and was then quaked to death by quake lol. gfoxfiyhto92.jpg
  • JoMama999JoMama999 Posts: 25
    Mods have stated several times that arena matchmaking has been impacted by rank 5 5*s. Now that some people have 2 of them, it occasionally causes death match if you are using low PI champs
  • CpcBoyboyCpcBoyboy Posts: 540
    thats normal but kabam should change it need no infinite streak to do, always hard every streaks like dungeon will be a great idea, each streak difficulty +5%
  • RicardobaltoRicardobalto Posts: 112
    Then if the mods have already commented on this then it stands clear that this is not anything fishy and working as intended... in other words! I just need to improve my rooster to be at the same level to continue avoiding DeathSquad.
  • DeadcarlDeadcarl Posts: 26
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    10k PI team got DS
  • DeadcarlDeadcarl Posts: 26
    10k before class bonuses
  • RicardobaltoRicardobalto Posts: 112
    Well that’s bad :/ what I meant to say is to have more 5* higher ranks champions to continue catching up or else you will most likely face a DeathSquad too often in the future.
  • DeadcarlDeadcarl Posts: 26
    I have a bunch of 5*s high rank, bunch of 4*s high rank....but i stream arenas and now 1/3 of my roster is unusable
  • DeadcarlDeadcarl Posts: 26
    Like 10days ago 8.5k wasnt enough, a couple days later it went to 9.5k, now its 10k...when will it stop?
  • DeadcarlDeadcarl Posts: 26
    My lowest 4/40s team is 12k....
  • RicardobaltoRicardobalto Posts: 112
    Then I have no idea what Kabam is doing
  • SyndicatedSyndicated Posts: 38
    @Kabam_Miike this is a serious problem, really serious problem, we can't adjust all roaster, to get +10k teams, is ilogic Say that you Will lose all effort from +250 Streak without problems, to lose the Streak always at 45 Streak after deathsquads, for getting 2 5*@5/65, really, stupid?
  • Axo4545Axo4545 Posts: 121
    Kabams response makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. They claim that 5/65s are throwing off the arena. I would like an explanation as to how that has any effect on it. If you follow their logic then anytime in the past that a new level of champ was attainable, let's say when people first started get R4 5*, then we should have been getting death squad matches. Did we? No, we did not. Until they can explain exactly how 5/56 supposedly are throwing things off then all I hear is an excuse that they are trying to use to hide the fact that they changed something in order to get players to spend more units trying to get new matches.
  • HeyChasonHeyChason Posts: 2
    I got a deathmatch just now with a team of 5* R1...
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Posts: 1,314
    edited May 16
    Pretty simple guys, 3x 3/30(or 1/25)is no longer safe from death matches so you gotta field teams stonger than 3x 3/30(or 1/25).

    P.S. Quietly laughing at those who laughed at those of us ranking 4 stars past 3/30.
  • KarimRagabKarimRagab Posts: 40
    edited May 16
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    Streak 30+, Why has this changed suddenly?! They should fix this...

    @Kabam Miike Please tell us if this will be fixed?
  • This is not a bug. This is how the Arena Matchmaking has always worked, but something you didn't come up against because no summoner had two Rank 5 5-Star Champions. This will continue to change as summoners have access to more and more Tier 5 Basic Catalysts.

    There will always be a way to maintain the "infinite streak", but it does mean that the method to get there and keep it going will continue to change.
  • HulksmasshhHulksmasshh Posts: 422
    I'm guessing the infinite streak has something to do with the combined prestige of your 3 attackers. If your 3 attackers surpass the minimum prestige for that arena, they will trigger the infinite streak. If they're below the minimum prestige, there is a high chance they will trigger the death squad. This minimum prestige might be determined by the collective average of the top player death squad prestiges, which is why as more people are getting 2 5/65 5*s and soon 3 5/65s, that minimum prestige needed will continue to rise.
  • SqueezzSqueezz Posts: 2
    Well that’s saying “sorry, not sorry, deal with it” ... guess we’ll have to think of new strategies
  • FingfangfoomfanesFingfangfoomfanes Posts: 332
    edited May 16
    that same thing happened to me!! Just replace the five star colossus with a rank 3 lvl 30 four star one... very frustrating!!

    so, no more r1 allowed to maintain the streak in arena? That's crazy stupid.
  • Axo4545Axo4545 Posts: 121
    This is not a bug. This is how the Arena Matchmaking has always worked, but something you didn't come up against because no summoner had two Rank 5 5-Star Champions. This will continue to change as summoners have access to more and more Tier 5 Basic Catalysts.

    There will always be a way to maintain the "infinite streak", but it does mean that the method to get there and keep it going will continue to change.

    So Mike how come we never ran into this before? Unless your a top summoner there has always been players with higher ranked champs but we never ran into this. Also doesn't explain why I've hit death squads at 200+ matches with r5 4* and r4 5*.
  • Axo4545Axo4545 Posts: 121
    Just seems very suspicious that the death squads seems to be hitting more after the last update.
  • SyndicatedSyndicated Posts: 38
    This is not a bug. This is how the Arena Matchmaking has always worked, but something you didn't come up against because no summoner had two Rank 5 5-Star Champions. This will continue to change as summoners have access to more and more Tier 5 Basic Catalysts.

    There will always be a way to maintain the "infinite streak", but it does mean that the method to get there and keep it going will continue to change.

    Miike, it's a bug, more 5/65 characters can't be in middle of 1/25-3/30 heroes, Not all have resources(Money) to make these account upgrades.

    And, why i say that is a bug? Because in infinity streak Start, you will find Kang and Thanos teams, and if you lose it from Deadsquads, you will find the same deadsquads in the restart of infinity Streak, You can Waste 50 units refreshing teams and you will get same Deadsquads, or, only 3 players of 120k have 2 4/55?

  • SqueezzSqueezz Posts: 2
    If you want us to rank up our 4* champs to r4 at least gives more ways to get tier 4 basic catalysts, because it is impossible to rank up our 4* rosters when we have to also rank up our 5* and save to eventually rank up the 6*... there aren’t effective ways for us to get them all!
  • allinashesallinashes Posts: 9
    edited May 17
    All those janky 5* I never wanted to take past r1 just got a lot more janky :# The t1a investment alone makes it prohibitive to take up these champs just for arena.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Posts: 3,392
    Axo4545 wrote: »
    If you follow their logic then anytime in the past that a new level of champ was attainable, let's say when people first started get R4 5*, then we should have been getting death squad matches. Did we? No, we did not.

    Actually, when R4's first started to appear, I did see a change in how arena match making took place. It wasn't quite as dramatic, but it was there.

    I have noticed twice in the last few weeks something happen in the arena where I got a much stronger match than I would have expected. In those cases I don't think that roster increases were responsible, because it wasn't consistent. In both cases, the same teams did not draw tough matches the following day under the same or similar streak conditions. I can't explain that with roster creep. I know that player roster composition affects arena match making exactly as Kabam is claiming. But I don't believe that can fully explain why the arena sometimes seems to generate death matches seemingly out of the blue, because it reverts back to not doing so after a while under the same numerical conditions. There has to be some other non-static element to this, either a random element or an oscillating one that determines the difficulty threshold per match that can sometimes by happenstance line up in a way to drop players below a critical threshold.
  • Axo4545Axo4545 Posts: 121
    I've been playing since the game started and the arenas have went through several changes but never anything like this. DNA 3000, I agree that as the lvl of champs progressed we might have seen a little tougher matches but no death squads. That's the part of what they are trying to sell us that makes no sense. If you go by what they are saying then when they first made the arenas that you could use 4 and 5* champs in then everyone that only had 4* would have faced death squads and like you stated it would not be so random. I still, and until evidence is shown to prove otherwise, believe that this is something they have put in place on purpose. I have said this in other chats about this topic and I will restate it here. They claim that they can't do anything about this but if it was something that benefited the players them would have it fixed with 24hrs. but since kabam is the one benefiting then of course nothing can be done.
  • Another subtle money grab since you have to start all over and spend units if not use items to jumpstartthe streak once more.
  • RicardobaltoRicardobalto Posts: 112
    I don’t think it’s a money grab for now as it’s more understandable with more people having more 5*. 5-6* champions is a trend now
  • CpcBoyboyCpcBoyboy Posts: 540
    easy easy

    thats why i rank up all my 5*


    5* List
    -R5= 2
    -R4= 11
    -R3= 41
    -R2= 24
    -R1= 0
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