Cap Infinity War: Why skimp on obvious synergies?

So if you're going to make a champ with so many synergies, why skimp on obvious ones? If he is to have a synergy with Iron Man, why is it OG Iron Man and not, I dunno, the Iron Man that's actually in the movie that this champ is based on? Also why no synergy with Falcon or Winter Soldier but does have a synergy with Hawkeye who isn't in the film?

If you're going to introduce a film specific at least be consistent with the data.
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  • will-o-wispwill-o-wisp Posts: 5,312
    This isn't about the film. Is about the game ...
    His synergies may or not be based on things outside of it. Is not about skipping anything, he simply doesn't have more sinergies than the ones he already have.
  • And all you need is that synergy active all champs of that class get that synergy
  • Yeah I was disappointed in his synergy partners.
  • I wish he has a syngery with the Previous cap characters
  • DalBot wrote: »
    I think you're missing the point of what I'm saying.

    If it's Captain America Infinity War, then he is clearly based on the movie. And the synergies whole mostly accurate, fail when you consider the MOVIE champ should have MOVIE related champs to synergize with. In the movie we have IMIW, so why synergy with OG Iron Man? In the movie, no Hawkeye, so why not insert Falcon or Bucky instead?

    Consistency would be the name of the game.

    Well in the movie they never saw each other so that’s why there is no synergie between Captain IW n Ironman IW

    Was going to say the same thing. At no point do they speak or come into contact with each other in any way. So infinity war iron man and infinity war cap don’t actually have any kind of relationship. Speaking strictly for infinity war versions that is. But cap did know the old iron man, and iron man did know the old cap. I would assume that’s the reason for it.
  • DalBotDalBot Posts: 378
    DalBot wrote: »
    I think you're missing the point of what I'm saying.

    If it's Captain America Infinity War, then he is clearly based on the movie. And the synergies whole mostly accurate, fail when you consider the MOVIE champ should have MOVIE related champs to synergize with. In the movie we have IMIW, so why synergy with OG Iron Man? In the movie, no Hawkeye, so why not insert Falcon or Bucky instead?

    Consistency would be the name of the game.

    Well in the movie they never saw each other so that’s why there is no synergie between Captain IW n Ironman IW

    Was going to say the same thing. At no point do they speak or come into contact with each other in any way. So infinity war iron man and infinity war cap don’t actually have any kind of relationship. Speaking strictly for infinity war versions that is. But cap did know the old iron man, and iron man did know the old cap. I would assume that’s the reason for it.

    I mean, if you want to get technical, Stark does call Cap to locate Vision to notify him about the threat of Thanos so...
  • DarthPhalDarthPhal Posts: 720
    I thought Banner called him.
  • DalBotDalBot Posts: 378
    Starks the one who had the cell phone from Rogers at the end of Civil War.
  • DarthPhalDarthPhal Posts: 720
  • Spoiler aleeeert
  • DalBotDalBot Posts: 378
    DarthPhal wrote: »

    Bwahaha, well played sir. I'm gonna play the transitive property card for the win on the connection lol
  • DalBotDalBot Posts: 378
    Also keep in mind we have Thor Rag and OG Thor as well as OG Hulk and Rag Hulk. Why no IMIW synergy is odd to me.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Posts: 6,088
    DalBot wrote: »
    DalBot wrote: »
    I think you're missing the point of what I'm saying.

    If it's Captain America Infinity War, then he is clearly based on the movie. And the synergies whole mostly accurate, fail when you consider the MOVIE champ should have MOVIE related champs to synergize with. In the movie we have IMIW, so why synergy with OG Iron Man? In the movie, no Hawkeye, so why not insert Falcon or Bucky instead?

    Consistency would be the name of the game.

    Well in the movie they never saw each other so that’s why there is no synergie between Captain IW n Ironman IW

    Was going to say the same thing. At no point do they speak or come into contact with each other in any way. So infinity war iron man and infinity war cap don’t actually have any kind of relationship. Speaking strictly for infinity war versions that is. But cap did know the old iron man, and iron man did know the old cap. I would assume that’s the reason for it.

    I mean, if you want to get technical, Stark does call Cap to locate Vision to notify him about the threat of Thanos so...

    Okay, but at the moment he makes the call isn't Rogers still the normal Captain America? After all, he doesn't get the Vibranium shield gauntlets until after he reaches Wakanda, so in a sense Rogers doesn't really "become" CapIW in the sense the game represents him until that moment. Prior to that, he's just Steve Rogers: the original Captain America minus the shield and colorful uniform.

    The movies are a lot more fluid than the game can be, so there's lots of ways to pull from the media to translate into the game.
  • LocoMotivesLocoMotives Posts: 1,200
    DNA3000 wrote: »
    DalBot wrote: »
    DalBot wrote: »
    I think you're missing the point of what I'm saying.

    If it's Captain America Infinity War, then he is clearly based on the movie. And the synergies whole mostly accurate, fail when you consider the MOVIE champ should have MOVIE related champs to synergize with. In the movie we have IMIW, so why synergy with OG Iron Man? In the movie, no Hawkeye, so why not insert Falcon or Bucky instead?

    Consistency would be the name of the game.

    Well in the movie they never saw each other so that’s why there is no synergie between Captain IW n Ironman IW

    Was going to say the same thing. At no point do they speak or come into contact with each other in any way. So infinity war iron man and infinity war cap don’t actually have any kind of relationship. Speaking strictly for infinity war versions that is. But cap did know the old iron man, and iron man did know the old cap. I would assume that’s the reason for it.

    I mean, if you want to get technical, Stark does call Cap to locate Vision to notify him about the threat of Thanos so...

    Okay, but at the moment he makes the call isn't Rogers still the normal Captain America? After all, he doesn't get the Vibranium shield gauntlets until after he reaches Wakanda, so in a sense Rogers doesn't really "become" CapIW in the sense the game represents him until that moment. Prior to that, he's just Steve Rogers: the original Captain America minus the shield and colorful uniform.

    The movies are a lot more fluid than the game can be, so there's lots of ways to pull from the media to translate into the game.

    Beard = Cap IW
  • My_SuperiorMy_Superior Posts: 1,291
    edited August 2018
    If you want to talk about a character who deserves more synergy, let’s talk Red Skull; he only has synergy with Cap (WW2) when he should have it with all 4 versions of Steve Rogers. “Hail Hydra” only activates with Punisher 2099 when there are other notable members of Hydra like Crossbones, Kingpin, MODOK, Taskmaster, and Yellowjacket who would definitely appreciate it. Meanwhile Cap (IW) has a grand total of 18 different characters to synergize with... Just saying.
  • Wsm10Wsm10 Posts: 155
    Because it's based on the story of the game, not the movie. Character's were just designed with some inspiration on the movie.

    I don't think that's a good example, as in the game they're working together. Just wanted to point that out. Either way, it's odd they have no synergy on IW Cap's side.

    I feel like the newer synergies we're seeing are a way to make older champs more desirable in the game without doing the buffs that so many need. I hope I'm wrong, but that's the way it looks to me.

  • LOGAN580LOGAN580 Posts: 93
    Dis hurtsie me brains me's goes to sleepies nows
  • DalBotDalBot Posts: 378
    If you want to talk about a character who deserves more synergy, let’s talk Red Skull; he only has synergy with Cap (WW2) when he should have it with all 4 versions of Steve Rogers. “Hail Hydra” only activates with Punisher 2099 when there are other notable members of Hydra like Crossbones, Kingpin, MODOK, Taskmaster, and Yellowjacket who would definitely appreciate it. Meanwhile Cap (IW) has a grand total of 18 different characters to synergize with... Just saying.

    To be fair to Cap though his whole thing is really being a leader and what not, so the way his synergies work makes sense. Red Skull, not so much a team player.
  • BapoiBapoi Posts: 993
    DalBot wrote: »
    I think you're missing the point of what I'm saying.

    If it's Captain America Infinity War, then he is clearly based on the movie. And the synergies whole mostly accurate, fail when you consider the MOVIE champ should have MOVIE related champs to synergize with. In the movie we have IMIW, so why synergy with OG Iron Man? In the movie, no Hawkeye, so why not insert Falcon or Bucky instead?

    Consistency would be the name of the game.

    Ant-man having synergy with three champs that weren’t in his movie.
    Capww having synergy with two champs that weren’t in that movie.

    Both champs based on their movies.
    Oh almost forgot Yellowjacket there.

    As was stated, older champs might be used so to not take them out of the game.
    Hawkeye is one of the elders in the game. And he gets shat on a lot. Which is horridly wrong since he is an awesome champ. This sort of synergy ensures he gets his shining moments at times as well.

    Capww has a synergy with Wolverine. Which seems to make zero sense based on the film, but it does make sense from the Marvel Comics perspective. There is more than the MCU when it comes to this game.

    I also haven’t read the comics series yet where Cap is Nomad. Which he basically portrays in the IW film. His synergies could well be (partially) based on that scenario.
  • DalBotDalBot Posts: 378
    Cap WWII is more loosely based on the movie, whereas this version literally had the movie title in his name, so I think there is a more implied direct correlation.
  • DalBotDalBot Posts: 378
    Kind of like AoU Ultron and Vision versus the original versions.
  • V1PER1987V1PER1987 Posts: 2,360
    DalBot wrote: »
    I think you're missing the point of what I'm saying.

    If it's Captain America Infinity War, then he is clearly based on the movie. And the synergies whole mostly accurate, fail when you consider the MOVIE champ should have MOVIE related champs to synergize with. In the movie we have IMIW, so why synergy with OG Iron Man? In the movie, no Hawkeye, so why not insert Falcon or Bucky instead?

    Consistency would be the name of the game.

    Well in the movie they never saw each other so that’s why there is no synergie between Captain IW n Ironman IW

    Yeah, but IMIW has a synergy with CAIW so....
  • DalBotDalBot Posts: 378
    Yeah, it's odd that it would be a one-way synergy, especially with the OG Iron Man being there
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Posts: 6,088
    DalBot wrote: »
    Yeah, it's odd that it would be a one-way synergy, especially with the OG Iron Man being there

    Personally, I think one-way synergies are both conceptually weird (you have a relationship with something that doesn't have a relationship with you?) and game design weird (if you want to know what synergies a champion benefits from, you can't necessarily tell by just looking at their character info).
  • Kil63Kil63 Posts: 232
    DalBot wrote: »
    So if you're going to make a champ with so many synergies, why skimp on obvious ones? If he is to have a synergy with Iron Man, why is it OG Iron Man and not, I dunno, the Iron Man that's actually in the movie that this champ is based on? Also why no synergy with Falcon or Winter Soldier but does have a synergy with Hawkeye who isn't in the film?

    If you're going to introduce a film specific at least be consistent with the data.

    Because they used his synergies to make older champs who were getting less use more active and desirable. Such as OG Iron Man, Doc Strange, Captain Marvel, etc.
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