HELA CAN'T DIE! Finally something to counter the hydra adaptoid?

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  • NamelezNamelez Member Posts: 992 ★★★
    edited August 2018
    DarthPhal wrote: »
    Did Drax’s double medium allow him to waltz untouched through LOL? Come on, man.

    Domino's block break counts as a HUGE bug... Exploit for using her on defense ? 😝
  • NamelezNamelez Member Posts: 992 ★★★
    DarthPhal wrote: »
    Did Drax’s double medium allow him to waltz untouched through LOL? Come on, man.

    I see ur point about LOL but for using her and Heimdall in general isn't right. LOL should be off limits. But not those 2 champs on the same team in general
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  • ShadPrinceShadPrince Member Posts: 842 ★★★
    Namelez wrote: »
    DarthPhal wrote: »
    Did Drax’s double medium allow him to waltz untouched through LOL? Come on, man.

    Domino's block break counts as a HUGE bug... Exploit for using her on defense ? 😝

    Hello,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T8jnTSSmiA&t=2s

    Good bye.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,027 ★★★★★
    ShadPrince wrote: »
    Namelez wrote: »
    DarthPhal wrote: »
    Did Drax’s double medium allow him to waltz untouched through LOL? Come on, man.

    Domino's block break counts as a HUGE bug... Exploit for using her on defense ? 😝

    Hello,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T8jnTSSmiA&t=2s

    Good bye.

    I was just about to do this. Nice work.
  • RafikiiRafikii Member Posts: 239
    There's nothing in the Synergy that describes not dying. That should be a hint.

    @Demonzfyre tagging you just to keep you in the same convo as well.

    so stating a few things, Hela is actually my second highest champ, so i literally am always using her.
    second, ive gotten fairly good at this game, to the point where i can maintain a combo without getting hit with damn near any champ. most people are to this point.
    lets put those into consideration with a hypothetical "Yay i just pulled the brand new champ Heimdall as a 5*!!"
    i see theres a synergy with one of my most used champs, so i put them together on my team.
    now lets say uncollected is alrdy finished so dying is pretty much out of the question.
    i run through masters A LOT with my new heimdall just playing with him, learning him.
    while still using hela since i always do.
    not difficult content on top of im not getting hit either. not enough to kill me.

    now lets also say i have never once been on these forums?

    why would i deserve a ban? its not fair
  • ShadPrinceShadPrince Member Posts: 842 ★★★
    Rafikii wrote: »
    There's nothing in the Synergy that describes not dying. That should be a hint.

    @Demonzfyre tagging you just to keep you in the same convo as well.

    so stating a few things, Hela is actually my second highest champ, so i literally am always using her.
    second, ive gotten fairly good at this game, to the point where i can maintain a combo without getting hit with damn near any champ. most people are to this point.
    lets put those into consideration with a hypothetical "Yay i just pulled the brand new champ Heimdall as a 5*!!"
    i see theres a synergy with one of my most used champs, so i put them together on my team.
    now lets say uncollected is alrdy finished so dying is pretty much out of the question.
    i run through masters A LOT with my new heimdall just playing with him, learning him.
    while still using hela since i always do.
    not difficult content on top of im not getting hit either. not enough to kill me.

    now lets also say i have never once been on these forums?

    why would i deserve a ban? its not fair

    I think the issue is that once you realise there is a bug, and that it isn't working as intended, and if you purposely use that bug to clear content that would not be possible (like becoming Uncollected or doing Labyrinth), then it starts to become an exploit. Usually I think people realise at some point that what they are doing is an exploit, especially when it isn't acting as it should be.

    But yeah, I think that the communication should be much better and that everyone should be notified that this bug is a thing.
  • RafikiiRafikii Member Posts: 239
    ShadPrince wrote: »
    Rafikii wrote: »
    There's nothing in the Synergy that describes not dying. That should be a hint.

    @Demonzfyre tagging you just to keep you in the same convo as well.

    so stating a few things, Hela is actually my second highest champ, so i literally am always using her.
    second, ive gotten fairly good at this game, to the point where i can maintain a combo without getting hit with damn near any champ. most people are to this point.
    lets put those into consideration with a hypothetical "Yay i just pulled the brand new champ Heimdall as a 5*!!"
    i see theres a synergy with one of my most used champs, so i put them together on my team.
    now lets say uncollected is alrdy finished so dying is pretty much out of the question.
    i run through masters A LOT with my new heimdall just playing with him, learning him.
    while still using hela since i always do.
    not difficult content on top of im not getting hit either. not enough to kill me.

    now lets also say i have never once been on these forums?

    why would i deserve a ban? its not fair

    I think the issue is that once you realise there is a bug, and that it isn't working as intended, and if you purposely use that bug to clear content that would not be possible (like becoming Uncollected or doing Labyrinth), then it starts to become an exploit. Usually I think people realise at some point that what they are doing is an exploit, especially when it isn't acting as it should be.

    But yeah, I think that the communication should be much better and that everyone should be notified that this bug is a thing.
    understandable, but rmbr, in my hypothetical scenario, i never saw anything on a bug. all kabam knows is i used these two on my team A LOT, essentially flagging me. when in that case, i had never exploited anything. this
    this is my exact issue
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,027 ★★★★★
    Rafikii wrote: »
    There's nothing in the Synergy that describes not dying. That should be a hint.

    @Demonzfyre tagging you just to keep you in the same convo as well.

    so stating a few things, Hela is actually my second highest champ, so i literally am always using her.
    second, ive gotten fairly good at this game, to the point where i can maintain a combo without getting hit with damn near any champ. most people are to this point.
    lets put those into consideration with a hypothetical "Yay i just pulled the brand new champ Heimdall as a 5*!!"
    i see theres a synergy with one of my most used champs, so i put them together on my team.
    now lets say uncollected is alrdy finished so dying is pretty much out of the question.
    i run through masters A LOT with my new heimdall just playing with him, learning him.
    while still using hela since i always do.
    not difficult content on top of im not getting hit either. not enough to kill me.

    now lets also say i have never once been on these forums?

    why would i deserve a ban? its not fair

    So if you see and read the synergy and read that it saves you 1 time from getting knocked out and you say oh cool, let's try it. Then you try it you don't die, at all after multiple hits. At that point, you should know some is wrong because it's not what the synergy states.
    You can make 2 choices here, continue to use it and turn a blind eye knowing something isn't right or report it or come to the forums and see what's going on.
    If you used it 1 time by accident, you are fine. If you continued to use it and take advantage, you should get a ban.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    Rafikii wrote: »
    There's nothing in the Synergy that describes not dying. That should be a hint.

    @Demonzfyre tagging you just to keep you in the same convo as well.

    so stating a few things, Hela is actually my second highest champ, so i literally am always using her.
    second, ive gotten fairly good at this game, to the point where i can maintain a combo without getting hit with damn near any champ. most people are to this point.
    lets put those into consideration with a hypothetical "Yay i just pulled the brand new champ Heimdall as a 5*!!"
    i see theres a synergy with one of my most used champs, so i put them together on my team.
    now lets say uncollected is alrdy finished so dying is pretty much out of the question.
    i run through masters A LOT with my new heimdall just playing with him, learning him.
    while still using hela since i always do.
    not difficult content on top of im not getting hit either. not enough to kill me.

    now lets also say i have never once been on these forums?

    why would i deserve a ban? its not fair
    They have the data. They can see what we do. It's not hard to tell someone who is obviously exploiting it.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,027 ★★★★★
    Rafikii wrote: »
    ShadPrince wrote: »
    Rafikii wrote: »
    There's nothing in the Synergy that describes not dying. That should be a hint.

    @Demonzfyre tagging you just to keep you in the same convo as well.

    so stating a few things, Hela is actually my second highest champ, so i literally am always using her.
    second, ive gotten fairly good at this game, to the point where i can maintain a combo without getting hit with damn near any champ. most people are to this point.
    lets put those into consideration with a hypothetical "Yay i just pulled the brand new champ Heimdall as a 5*!!"
    i see theres a synergy with one of my most used champs, so i put them together on my team.
    now lets say uncollected is alrdy finished so dying is pretty much out of the question.
    i run through masters A LOT with my new heimdall just playing with him, learning him.
    while still using hela since i always do.
    not difficult content on top of im not getting hit either. not enough to kill me.

    now lets also say i have never once been on these forums?

    why would i deserve a ban? its not fair

    I think the issue is that once you realise there is a bug, and that it isn't working as intended, and if you purposely use that bug to clear content that would not be possible (like becoming Uncollected or doing Labyrinth), then it starts to become an exploit. Usually I think people realise at some point that what they are doing is an exploit, especially when it isn't acting as it should be.

    But yeah, I think that the communication should be much better and that everyone should be notified that this bug is a thing.
    understandable, but rmbr, in my hypothetical scenario, i never saw anything on a bug. all kabam knows is i used these two on my team A LOT, essentially flagging me. when in that case, i had never exploited anything. this
    this is my exact issue

    if you didn't exploit the bug, then you have nothing to worry about. Whether they communicate it or not, you should know right from wrong.
  • ShadPrinceShadPrince Member Posts: 842 ★★★
    Rafikii wrote: »
    ShadPrince wrote: »
    Rafikii wrote: »
    There's nothing in the Synergy that describes not dying. That should be a hint.

    @Demonzfyre tagging you just to keep you in the same convo as well.

    so stating a few things, Hela is actually my second highest champ, so i literally am always using her.
    second, ive gotten fairly good at this game, to the point where i can maintain a combo without getting hit with damn near any champ. most people are to this point.
    lets put those into consideration with a hypothetical "Yay i just pulled the brand new champ Heimdall as a 5*!!"
    i see theres a synergy with one of my most used champs, so i put them together on my team.
    now lets say uncollected is alrdy finished so dying is pretty much out of the question.
    i run through masters A LOT with my new heimdall just playing with him, learning him.
    while still using hela since i always do.
    not difficult content on top of im not getting hit either. not enough to kill me.

    now lets also say i have never once been on these forums?

    why would i deserve a ban? its not fair

    I think the issue is that once you realise there is a bug, and that it isn't working as intended, and if you purposely use that bug to clear content that would not be possible (like becoming Uncollected or doing Labyrinth), then it starts to become an exploit. Usually I think people realise at some point that what they are doing is an exploit, especially when it isn't acting as it should be.

    But yeah, I think that the communication should be much better and that everyone should be notified that this bug is a thing.
    understandable, but rmbr, in my hypothetical scenario, i never saw anything on a bug. all kabam knows is i used these two on my team A LOT, essentially flagging me. when in that case, i had never exploited anything. this
    this is my exact issue

    Wait, I might have it wrong

    Are you thinking that you could potentially be banned just because you are using the Heimdall and Hela within quests, but not actually exploiting the indestructible nature of the Heimdall x Hela synergy itself?
  • NamelezNamelez Member Posts: 992 ★★★
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    ShadPrince wrote: »
    Namelez wrote: »
    DarthPhal wrote: »
    Did Drax’s double medium allow him to waltz untouched through LOL? Come on, man.

    Domino's block break counts as a HUGE bug... Exploit for using her on defense ? 😝

    Hello,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T8jnTSSmiA&t=2s

    Good bye.

    I was just about to do this. Nice work.

    Is it 100% fixed ? Also what about Drax's double medium doesn't matter the bug relatively it is still a bug
  • RafikiiRafikii Member Posts: 239
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    Rafikii wrote: »
    There's nothing in the Synergy that describes not dying. That should be a hint.

    @Demonzfyre tagging you just to keep you in the same convo as well.

    so stating a few things, Hela is actually my second highest champ, so i literally am always using her.
    second, ive gotten fairly good at this game, to the point where i can maintain a combo without getting hit with damn near any champ. most people are to this point.
    lets put those into consideration with a hypothetical "Yay i just pulled the brand new champ Heimdall as a 5*!!"
    i see theres a synergy with one of my most used champs, so i put them together on my team.
    now lets say uncollected is alrdy finished so dying is pretty much out of the question.
    i run through masters A LOT with my new heimdall just playing with him, learning him.
    while still using hela since i always do.
    not difficult content on top of im not getting hit either. not enough to kill me.

    now lets also say i have never once been on these forums?

    why would i deserve a ban? its not fair

    So if you see and read the synergy and read that it saves you 1 time from getting knocked out and you say oh cool, let's try it. Then you try it you don't die, at all after multiple hits. At that point, you should know some is wrong because it's not what the synergy states.
    You can make 2 choices here, continue to use it and turn a blind eye knowing something isn't right or report it or come to the forums and see what's going on.
    If you used it 1 time by accident, you are fine. If you continued to use it and take advantage, you should get a ban.
    honestly i can agree with that. to some extent tho. most people would test it, see how it works, but im talking about those who dont. its obvious most people would test that synergy, but from someone trying to just finish masters, all im doing is using literally my second top champ as well as my new champ.
    lets say i read the description. i fully understand what it means, so im not going to test it. to me, it just seems handy. so i put heimdall on my team with my topchamps, play with him until he dies(assuming i didnt rank him up at all and his rating is wayyyy low for even masters, or im experimenting tactics **** up nd he dies) then i let hela take over and steam roll everything.

    iwouldnt find this bug on my own unless i was doing harder content that would have killed my hela.
    but in my scenario, i finished the hard stuff and im running easy stuff. i read that incredibly clear synergy, and moved on not thinking i needed to test it by letting hela "die"
  • ShadPrinceShadPrince Member Posts: 842 ★★★
    Namelez wrote: »
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    ShadPrince wrote: »
    Namelez wrote: »
    DarthPhal wrote: »
    Did Drax’s double medium allow him to waltz untouched through LOL? Come on, man.

    Domino's block break counts as a HUGE bug... Exploit for using her on defense ? 😝

    Hello,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T8jnTSSmiA&t=2s

    Good bye.

    I was just about to do this. Nice work.

    Is it 100% fixed ? Also what about Drax's double medium doesn't matter the bug relatively it is still a bug

    Well, I tried blocking against Domino and she has never broken my block, and when I run into the scenario that DDD presents, then yes my "block is broken".

    Also, they claimed that Drax's double medium thing was a bug. I'm not going to get involved in that discussion, but now it doesn't prevent astral evade from activating, so they fixed what they claimed was a bug.

    And what do you mean by relatively?
  • RafikiiRafikii Member Posts: 239
    ShadPrince wrote: »
    Rafikii wrote: »
    ShadPrince wrote: »
    Rafikii wrote: »
    There's nothing in the Synergy that describes not dying. That should be a hint.

    @Demonzfyre tagging you just to keep you in the same convo as well.

    so stating a few things, Hela is actually my second highest champ, so i literally am always using her.
    second, ive gotten fairly good at this game, to the point where i can maintain a combo without getting hit with damn near any champ. most people are to this point.
    lets put those into consideration with a hypothetical "Yay i just pulled the brand new champ Heimdall as a 5*!!"
    i see theres a synergy with one of my most used champs, so i put them together on my team.
    now lets say uncollected is alrdy finished so dying is pretty much out of the question.
    i run through masters A LOT with my new heimdall just playing with him, learning him.
    while still using hela since i always do.
    not difficult content on top of im not getting hit either. not enough to kill me.

    now lets also say i have never once been on these forums?

    why would i deserve a ban? its not fair

    I think the issue is that once you realise there is a bug, and that it isn't working as intended, and if you purposely use that bug to clear content that would not be possible (like becoming Uncollected or doing Labyrinth), then it starts to become an exploit. Usually I think people realise at some point that what they are doing is an exploit, especially when it isn't acting as it should be.

    But yeah, I think that the communication should be much better and that everyone should be notified that this bug is a thing.
    understandable, but rmbr, in my hypothetical scenario, i never saw anything on a bug. all kabam knows is i used these two on my team A LOT, essentially flagging me. when in that case, i had never exploited anything. this
    this is my exact issue

    Wait, I might have it wrong

    Are you thinking that you could potentially be banned just because you are using the Heimdall and Hela within quests, but not actually exploiting the indestructible nature of the Heimdall x Hela synergy itself?

    to my understanding thats all it would take right?
    or would kabam actually only ban people who had their hela active said synergy x amount of times? in that case, yeah im not as worried as i thought
  • NamelezNamelez Member Posts: 992 ★★★
    ShadPrince wrote: »
    Namelez wrote: »
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    ShadPrince wrote: »
    Namelez wrote: »
    DarthPhal wrote: »
    Did Drax’s double medium allow him to waltz untouched through LOL? Come on, man.

    Domino's block break counts as a HUGE bug... Exploit for using her on defense ? 😝

    Hello,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T8jnTSSmiA&t=2s

    Good bye.

    I was just about to do this. Nice work.

    Is it 100% fixed ? Also what about Drax's double medium doesn't matter the bug relatively it is still a bug

    Well, I tried blocking against Domino and she has never broken my block, and when I run into the scenario that DDD presents, then yes my "block is broken".

    Also, they claimed that Drax's double medium thing was a bug. I'm not going to get involved in that discussion, but now it doesn't prevent astral evade from activating, so they fixed what they claimed was a bug.

    And what do you mean by relatively?

    I mean the Hela bug is WAY MORE important than the Drax bug but yet it is still a bug... U see what I mean ? Both are bugs but we were allowed to take advantage of the Drax bug
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    You keep mentioning Drax, but it wasn't a bug, technically. It was a side-effect of his frame rate, and that much was stated all along. Consequently, there was no direct fix to it. It was a frame rate change. He was never intended to bypass Evade. It just happened to work out that way. If another pressing issue causes them to fix the frame rate and as a result that is altered, that's how it is. People using Drax to bypass Evade is nowhere near as serious as a Champ that can't die, ever.
  • NamelezNamelez Member Posts: 992 ★★★
    You keep mentioning Drax, but it wasn't a bug, technically. It was a side-effect of his frame rate, and that much was stated all along. Consequently, there was no direct fix to it. It was a frame rate change. He was never intended to bypass Evade. It just happened to work out that way. If another pressing issue causes them to fix the frame rate and as a result that is altered, that's how it is. People using Drax to bypass Evade is nowhere near as serious as a Champ that can't die, ever.

    Kabam openly admitted it was a bug
  • ShadPrinceShadPrince Member Posts: 842 ★★★
    Rafikii wrote: »
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    Rafikii wrote: »
    There's nothing in the Synergy that describes not dying. That should be a hint.

    @Demonzfyre tagging you just to keep you in the same convo as well.

    so stating a few things, Hela is actually my second highest champ, so i literally am always using her.
    second, ive gotten fairly good at this game, to the point where i can maintain a combo without getting hit with damn near any champ. most people are to this point.
    lets put those into consideration with a hypothetical "Yay i just pulled the brand new champ Heimdall as a 5*!!"
    i see theres a synergy with one of my most used champs, so i put them together on my team.
    now lets say uncollected is alrdy finished so dying is pretty much out of the question.
    i run through masters A LOT with my new heimdall just playing with him, learning him.
    while still using hela since i always do.
    not difficult content on top of im not getting hit either. not enough to kill me.

    now lets also say i have never once been on these forums?

    why would i deserve a ban? its not fair

    So if you see and read the synergy and read that it saves you 1 time from getting knocked out and you say oh cool, let's try it. Then you try it you don't die, at all after multiple hits. At that point, you should know some is wrong because it's not what the synergy states.
    You can make 2 choices here, continue to use it and turn a blind eye knowing something isn't right or report it or come to the forums and see what's going on.
    If you used it 1 time by accident, you are fine. If you continued to use it and take advantage, you should get a ban.
    honestly i can agree with that. to some extent tho. most people would test it, see how it works, but im talking about those who dont. its obvious most people would test that synergy, but from someone trying to just finish masters, all im doing is using literally my second top champ as well as my new champ.
    lets say i read the description. i fully understand what it means, so im not going to test it. to me, it just seems handy. so i put heimdall on my team with my topchamps, play with him until he dies(assuming i didnt rank him up at all and his rating is wayyyy low for even masters, or im experimenting tactics **** up nd he dies) then i let hela take over and steam roll everything.

    iwouldnt find this bug on my own unless i was doing harder content that would have killed my hela.
    but in my scenario, i finished the hard stuff and im running easy stuff. i read that incredibly clear synergy, and moved on not thinking i needed to test it by letting hela "die"

    In that case you aren't actually exploiting the bug, and haven't found it. I don't think you'd deserve the ban, but for example if I got a first time clear through 5.3 and 5.4 with that bug, then I'd say it was an exploit. But if I was grinding through Heroic EQ and not finding it at all, I don't think it would be. I'd like to say that if or when the ban wave comes, that they'll use some manner of discretion and common sense, but if not then something will be figured out.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    Namelez wrote: »
    You keep mentioning Drax, but it wasn't a bug, technically. It was a side-effect of his frame rate, and that much was stated all along. Consequently, there was no direct fix to it. It was a frame rate change. He was never intended to bypass Evade. It just happened to work out that way. If another pressing issue causes them to fix the frame rate and as a result that is altered, that's how it is. People using Drax to bypass Evade is nowhere near as serious as a Champ that can't die, ever.

    Kabam openly admitted it was a bug
    Reference? I remember it being stated that it's the result of his frame rate.
  • AngelicsignAngelicsign Member Posts: 391 ★★
    There are a lot of other issues. If you post a potential bug beneficial to players, they will delay or other issues and make this as first priority.

    Can you guys just stop posting this?
  • NamelezNamelez Member Posts: 992 ★★★
    Namelez wrote: »
    You keep mentioning Drax, but it wasn't a bug, technically. It was a side-effect of his frame rate, and that much was stated all along. Consequently, there was no direct fix to it. It was a frame rate change. He was never intended to bypass Evade. It just happened to work out that way. If another pressing issue causes them to fix the frame rate and as a result that is altered, that's how it is. People using Drax to bypass Evade is nowhere near as serious as a Champ that can't die, ever.

    Kabam openly admitted it was a bug
    Reference? I remember it being stated that it's the result of his frame rate.

    I don't have the comment itself but a few people remember it being admitted a bug
  • ShadPrinceShadPrince Member Posts: 842 ★★★
    Namelez wrote: »
    ShadPrince wrote: »
    Namelez wrote: »
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    ShadPrince wrote: »
    Namelez wrote: »
    DarthPhal wrote: »
    Did Drax’s double medium allow him to waltz untouched through LOL? Come on, man.

    Domino's block break counts as a HUGE bug... Exploit for using her on defense ? 😝

    Hello,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T8jnTSSmiA&t=2s

    Good bye.

    I was just about to do this. Nice work.

    Is it 100% fixed ? Also what about Drax's double medium doesn't matter the bug relatively it is still a bug

    Well, I tried blocking against Domino and she has never broken my block, and when I run into the scenario that DDD presents, then yes my "block is broken".

    Also, they claimed that Drax's double medium thing was a bug. I'm not going to get involved in that discussion, but now it doesn't prevent astral evade from activating, so they fixed what they claimed was a bug.

    And what do you mean by relatively?

    I mean the Hela bug is WAY MORE important than the Drax bug but yet it is still a bug... U see what I mean ? Both are bugs but we were allowed to take advantage of the Drax bug

    Again, I think scale is important for discretion here...when the Drax bug allows you to effectively counter 1 champ and slightly mitigate 2 others (or smth), whereas here we have an issue where you could complete Labyrinth of Legends if you had $100 and lucked out. It's a bit of a difference.
  • ShadPrinceShadPrince Member Posts: 842 ★★★
    There are a lot of other issues. If you post a potential bug beneficial to players, they will delay or other issues and make this as first priority.

    Can you guys just stop posting this?

    What, just so more people can use it? Or so that they can fix other, potentially more pressing issues?
  • RafikiiRafikii Member Posts: 239
    ShadPrince wrote: »
    Rafikii wrote: »
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    Rafikii wrote: »
    There's nothing in the Synergy that describes not dying. That should be a hint.

    @Demonzfyre tagging you just to keep you in the same convo as well.

    so stating a few things, Hela is actually my second highest champ, so i literally am always using her.
    second, ive gotten fairly good at this game, to the point where i can maintain a combo without getting hit with damn near any champ. most people are to this point.
    lets put those into consideration with a hypothetical "Yay i just pulled the brand new champ Heimdall as a 5*!!"
    i see theres a synergy with one of my most used champs, so i put them together on my team.
    now lets say uncollected is alrdy finished so dying is pretty much out of the question.
    i run through masters A LOT with my new heimdall just playing with him, learning him.
    while still using hela since i always do.
    not difficult content on top of im not getting hit either. not enough to kill me.

    now lets also say i have never once been on these forums?

    why would i deserve a ban? its not fair

    So if you see and read the synergy and read that it saves you 1 time from getting knocked out and you say oh cool, let's try it. Then you try it you don't die, at all after multiple hits. At that point, you should know some is wrong because it's not what the synergy states.
    You can make 2 choices here, continue to use it and turn a blind eye knowing something isn't right or report it or come to the forums and see what's going on.
    If you used it 1 time by accident, you are fine. If you continued to use it and take advantage, you should get a ban.
    honestly i can agree with that. to some extent tho. most people would test it, see how it works, but im talking about those who dont. its obvious most people would test that synergy, but from someone trying to just finish masters, all im doing is using literally my second top champ as well as my new champ.
    lets say i read the description. i fully understand what it means, so im not going to test it. to me, it just seems handy. so i put heimdall on my team with my topchamps, play with him until he dies(assuming i didnt rank him up at all and his rating is wayyyy low for even masters, or im experimenting tactics **** up nd he dies) then i let hela take over and steam roll everything.

    iwouldnt find this bug on my own unless i was doing harder content that would have killed my hela.
    but in my scenario, i finished the hard stuff and im running easy stuff. i read that incredibly clear synergy, and moved on not thinking i needed to test it by letting hela "die"

    In that case you aren't actually exploiting the bug, and haven't found it. I don't think you'd deserve the ban, but for example if I got a first time clear through 5.3 and 5.4 with that bug, then I'd say it was an exploit. But if I was grinding through Heroic EQ and not finding it at all, I don't think it would be. I'd like to say that if or when the ban wave comes, that they'll use some manner of discretion and common sense, but if not then something will be figured out.

    mainly what im worried about is actual unfair bans. idk if theyre gnna look through thousands of people who used the synergy and one by one check to see if tgey first time cleared anything that would be "difficult" or if theyd run a software showing that someone just used those two A LOT. see my concerns?
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    Namelez wrote: »
    Namelez wrote: »
    You keep mentioning Drax, but it wasn't a bug, technically. It was a side-effect of his frame rate, and that much was stated all along. Consequently, there was no direct fix to it. It was a frame rate change. He was never intended to bypass Evade. It just happened to work out that way. If another pressing issue causes them to fix the frame rate and as a result that is altered, that's how it is. People using Drax to bypass Evade is nowhere near as serious as a Champ that can't die, ever.

    Kabam openly admitted it was a bug
    Reference? I remember it being stated that it's the result of his frame rate.

    I don't have the comment itself but a few people remember it being admitted a bug

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/457319#Comment_457319
  • NamelezNamelez Member Posts: 992 ★★★
    Namelez wrote: »
    Namelez wrote: »
    You keep mentioning Drax, but it wasn't a bug, technically. It was a side-effect of his frame rate, and that much was stated all along. Consequently, there was no direct fix to it. It was a frame rate change. He was never intended to bypass Evade. It just happened to work out that way. If another pressing issue causes them to fix the frame rate and as a result that is altered, that's how it is. People using Drax to bypass Evade is nowhere near as serious as a Champ that can't die, ever.

    Kabam openly admitted it was a bug
    Reference? I remember it being stated that it's the result of his frame rate.

    I don't have the comment itself but a few people remember it being admitted a bug

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/457319#Comment_457319

    I'm man enough to eat my words. Drax wasn't a bug... Now what about Domino ? When her full block break was in effect did people get banned for placing her on defense ?
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    Namelez wrote: »
    Namelez wrote: »
    Namelez wrote: »
    You keep mentioning Drax, but it wasn't a bug, technically. It was a side-effect of his frame rate, and that much was stated all along. Consequently, there was no direct fix to it. It was a frame rate change. He was never intended to bypass Evade. It just happened to work out that way. If another pressing issue causes them to fix the frame rate and as a result that is altered, that's how it is. People using Drax to bypass Evade is nowhere near as serious as a Champ that can't die, ever.

    Kabam openly admitted it was a bug
    Reference? I remember it being stated that it's the result of his frame rate.

    I don't have the comment itself but a few people remember it being admitted a bug

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/457319#Comment_457319

    I'm man enough to eat my words. Drax wasn't a bug... Now what about Domino ? When her full block break was in effect did people get banned for placing her on defense ?

    Well, no. That's not an exploit. That's a Champ that can break your Block. You're not going to take advantage of all content by not dying that way. They couldn't very well stop people from using the Champ while they worked on it. There's a difference between normal gameplay and exploiting. I don't think you're getting the perspective in your comparisons.
  • NamelezNamelez Member Posts: 992 ★★★
    Namelez wrote: »
    Namelez wrote: »
    Namelez wrote: »
    You keep mentioning Drax, but it wasn't a bug, technically. It was a side-effect of his frame rate, and that much was stated all along. Consequently, there was no direct fix to it. It was a frame rate change. He was never intended to bypass Evade. It just happened to work out that way. If another pressing issue causes them to fix the frame rate and as a result that is altered, that's how it is. People using Drax to bypass Evade is nowhere near as serious as a Champ that can't die, ever.

    Kabam openly admitted it was a bug
    Reference? I remember it being stated that it's the result of his frame rate.

    I don't have the comment itself but a few people remember it being admitted a bug

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/457319#Comment_457319

    I'm man enough to eat my words. Drax wasn't a bug... Now what about Domino ? When her full block break was in effect did people get banned for placing her on defense ?

    Well, no. That's not an exploit. That's a Champ that can break your Block. You're not going to take advantage of all content by not dying that way. They couldn't very well stop people from using the Champ while they worked on it. There's a difference between normal gameplay and exploiting. I don't think you're getting the perspective in your comparisons.

    I am they said her block break is a bug but yef people still use her dude... They may not be able to beat content but that's a way to cheat in AW
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