Alliance War - Points and War Rating Deductions
bammed50
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So my alliance just finished up a war against one of the previously ranked Master alliances. The group we faced was affected by the recent bans and war rating/point deductions completed earlier this week. Needless to say, it was a complete CF.
The war that just ended for us resulted in a loss after having won 5 wars in a row and climbing up to Platinum 2. The alliance who was once ranked in the master tier ended the match with less than 15 deaths (typically for those in that bracket). Our group on the other hand ended with over 100 deaths just trying to clear their multiple R5 defenders. When we are matched with people in our "actual" bracket the death total is normally around 30-50 max, and the match-ups are balanced equally on both sides!
While I understand and agree with the idea of punishing those that have violated the games TOCs, I feel compelled to point out the fact that reducing a master or platinum 1 rank alliance war rating by +/-300 pts actually punishes those that have to face a previously higher ranked alliance.
A war rating deduction hurts the less skilled alliances more then it hurts those that had the war rating deduction. The alliances which received the deduction will likely reform and go on a win streak for the remainder of the season, making up the points removed and still ending in Platinum 1 or Master. These groups often are made of the best and most advanced rosters resulting in them bulldozing all of the weaker alliances that they are now facing. The points earned from winning the remaining wars is more then enough to make up for the points that you removed. On the other hand, it forces the groups that they face to take drastically less points for the loss against an alliance that had no business in that war rating/tier.
If you plan to continue with this style of correction, you need to ensure that alliances who abide by the TOCs are not subject to an unwanted throttling by a group that obviously should not be playing against Platinum 2 or 3 alliances with a 2600, or less, war rating.
One suggestion would be to make those alliances that received the reductions face one another. This will allow them to face off against those that also broke the rules to determine which of those groups actually should move back to the top of the brackets vs those that choose to break the TOCs to inflate themselves above their actual ability.
If the ability does not exist to group these alliances into a smaller pool of matchmaking, then the alliances should only receive a point deduction and not a war rating deduction. This will force the groups that received the point deductions the opportunity to face off against the groups at their current rating to prove themselves as a platinum 1 or master alliance.
The war that just ended for us resulted in a loss after having won 5 wars in a row and climbing up to Platinum 2. The alliance who was once ranked in the master tier ended the match with less than 15 deaths (typically for those in that bracket). Our group on the other hand ended with over 100 deaths just trying to clear their multiple R5 defenders. When we are matched with people in our "actual" bracket the death total is normally around 30-50 max, and the match-ups are balanced equally on both sides!
While I understand and agree with the idea of punishing those that have violated the games TOCs, I feel compelled to point out the fact that reducing a master or platinum 1 rank alliance war rating by +/-300 pts actually punishes those that have to face a previously higher ranked alliance.
A war rating deduction hurts the less skilled alliances more then it hurts those that had the war rating deduction. The alliances which received the deduction will likely reform and go on a win streak for the remainder of the season, making up the points removed and still ending in Platinum 1 or Master. These groups often are made of the best and most advanced rosters resulting in them bulldozing all of the weaker alliances that they are now facing. The points earned from winning the remaining wars is more then enough to make up for the points that you removed. On the other hand, it forces the groups that they face to take drastically less points for the loss against an alliance that had no business in that war rating/tier.
If you plan to continue with this style of correction, you need to ensure that alliances who abide by the TOCs are not subject to an unwanted throttling by a group that obviously should not be playing against Platinum 2 or 3 alliances with a 2600, or less, war rating.
One suggestion would be to make those alliances that received the reductions face one another. This will allow them to face off against those that also broke the rules to determine which of those groups actually should move back to the top of the brackets vs those that choose to break the TOCs to inflate themselves above their actual ability.
If the ability does not exist to group these alliances into a smaller pool of matchmaking, then the alliances should only receive a point deduction and not a war rating deduction. This will force the groups that received the point deductions the opportunity to face off against the groups at their current rating to prove themselves as a platinum 1 or master alliance.
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A lot of people have felt compelled to point this out. I've been pointing it out for several seasons now, but at the moment Kabam doesn't appear to consider it a priority to address this problem.
The logic behind docking rating is that your season point multiplier is based on your rating. If you leave rating alone then that alliance continues to score points at a very high multiplier. Reducing rating lowers their multiplier which acts as a further penalty that they have to "work off" so to speak. But it does have the side effect you (and many others) mention: it also causes them to get matched up against significantly weaker alliances who now can run into a brick wall. My standing proposal to address this problem is to penalize multiplier directly rather than indirectly through rating. Leave rating alone, reduce the offending alliance's multiplier. You can apply a percentage penalty (i.e. their multiplier gets cut in half) or you can apply a bracket penalty (i.e. their multiplier acts as if they were two tiers lower than their rating). Let it persist or decay over a period of time (i.e. multiplier is reduced by 50%, this drops by ten percentage points per war until it returns to 100%). The net result is the offending alliance continues to be matched against alliances of equal strength, but they earn less points as if their rating was penalized.
If you wait until the end of the season you're still impacting other alliances that didn't break the rules, because you are allowing piloting alliances to continue to use piloting to defeat other alliances even though you have confirmed they are piloting.
th major problem here is that most of the docked allies didn't get out of tier 1 multiplier. Which is hilarious.
That said, they should be just frozen for 3 wars with no rating penality. minus roughly 4 m points will be good punishment and won't mine in any way lower tiers. On top it will prevent said docked allies to "get revenge" on the legit ones targeting them with aimed matchmaking, or colluding with what's left at top to leave up nodes for them in exchange for favours.
S3 had one of the biggest and facepalming example in the last day of war, when 3rd ranked ally faced another master which at that point had an avg death count of 5-10 per war, and left up over 38 nodes for them to surpass 2nd place. Kabam did nothing and season ended on that dirty note.
That said, that ally is one of the docked ones this season, which is karmic.