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Removal of Thorns: a new case for rank down tickets
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I'm the wrong one to quote, lol. I said earlier in the thread that I'm not sure where I even stand on it, but nothing wrong with them asking the question of Kabam. Personally, I wouldn't have r4'd an Ant-Man ever so it's hard to empathize with the OP. I just think we should get more answers from Kabam and make sure we mark our opinions as such, IMO is a very helpful tool on the interwebs
Whoops, thread was super long so I didn't read every post so you just got caught in the cross fire haha. I don't think there's anything to ask here though, asking for a RDT in this situation is completely ridiculous. You know the OP just realizes he did something idiotic and wants a bailout.......and this is an excuse to ask for one.
I ranked many skill champions to deal specifically with thorns nodes.
Since doing so, these champions have become obsolete due to Pure Skill Mastery (and diminishing returns), changes on nodes in AW, and now, removal. I really do not have a use for these champions anymore without thorns being present in the game.
Likewise, for those who ranked champions to capitalize specifically on Thorns (here's look at your Antman) I would be all for rank down tickets. To be fair, people rank champions for specific reasons. You don't need to change the champions to make them obsolete, you just need to remove the reason and suddenly they are obsolete.
It could easily be argued that bypassing thorns is not their only use. BW for example can still be used against evaders and regenerators. Granted there may be other champs that do it better, but they still have that ability.
That's exactly my point. The actual functionality of the Champ is not changed. Our application is elective. Now, if the removal of the Node somehow changed the Champ, I may see some validity. However, it does not. The Champ still performs the same regardless of what we use it for.
B. your skill champ will still be there to counter ultron, spidey, nc, etc
C. r4 5* ant man before magik ,star lord or gwenpool is your fault.
One or two 5* RDT's and three or four 4* RDT's will satisfy all players, regardless of all kinda "was not my fault" complaints.
Fact, this issue is not a champion specific change.
Fact, the opening line in the OP is a misrepresentation of what has been said and people are basing their arguments and desires off of that falsehood.
Fact, people are grasping at straws in an effort to coax RDTs from Kabam.
Here is a moderator addressing this. /thread? Yeah right people are so desperate to exploit RDTs they'll do what ever mental gymnastics are required to argue for them.
Hiya Raa, there aren't any plans for releasing rank-down tickets for the release of 6-Stars. Rank-down tickets were initially given out because of changes that were made to specific Champs, but weren't intended to be given for changes that aren't made directly to specific Champions. The addition of 6-Star Champs in 2018 won't alter any Champions in players' rosters and these current rosters will continue to remain valuable. This is all a part of the natural progression of the Contest. Since the topic of rank-down tickets has been addressed before and our position hasn't changed, I'm gonna go ahead and close this thread. https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/93941#Comment_93941
No the lock and key component has always existed in the game, they need to continue to present new challenges and solutions but what I'm saying is nerfs are done indirectly all the time and they get to wipe they're hands of them with no compensation because they don't directly change anything within the champs kit. Let's just assume eventually something is "adjusted" with MD because it's created a considerable disparity between Mystics and the other 5 classes. Everyone's Magik, Dorm, Hood, Mordo, DS, SW, Voodoo etc will all have effectively been nerfed. Your decision to rank them has been influenced by this mastery and suddenly things are different. You can't tell me that's not a nerf all affected champs should be atleast be given a window for rdt at a minimum and that doesn't even take into consideration awakenings or sig stones invested.
As for ranking down skill champs, they have other uses. Map 6 aq had a thorns node. They stop spidey evades. There are way more things in this game than thorns. And frankly, the fact that people have black widow at rank 5 for thorns nodes at all after her nerf baffles me. You had the chance to rank her down then and you didn't. You are getting a benefit of not having to bring a subpar champ to war now.
That sounds pointless.
B. Agreed no need for RDT in this one
C. I would have ranked them if I actually had them but you know SOME of us don't get that lucky to pull one of those champs and dupe them
All of the above said, I personally would love to see a small amount of rank down tickets issued for no particular reason but with no expiration date attached to them this time. The original batch felt rushed to me with all the incentive events running to encourage us to use them fast, not to mention they also had an expiration date. I would have loved to have been able to hold onto one or two for each star level to save forever as a failsafe for a future big mistake of ranking up a highly anticipated new champ that winds up being badly bugged or just complete garbage. (Think Phoenix when she was first released as a playable champ, it could happen again)
Phoenix gets too much guff. She's capable of some great Damage with 5+ Fury. 10, and you're golden.
But if I know Kabam, I think the new patch may be a heaping pile of (cough) fertilizer and they may give rank downs to appease people when they re patch to fix it.
You keep using that word "Fact", I'm not sure it means what you think it means.
Sincerely,
Inigo Montoya
Sure hes no longer going to be suited to a specific node anymore (unless AW post 15.0 has nodes for poison and damage reduction) but your Ant-Man is a r4 5* champ...
I dont know anyone, real friends or in-game ones with a single 5* over r3...
Hes still gonna be a powerhouse against 90% of the 4* champions you'll face.
As for RDT, it is beyond obvious this is what their customers want. They aren't listening and their arguments suck. I'm not going to say that everyone will mass quit over this but I think we all know some alliances that are going to take big hours because people are tired of the cash grab. I myself am considering how involved I want to be at this point.
Furthermore, the fact that we have 120 comments on this thread and the moderators have been silent is astonishing. Not just this thread, but if you look in general discussion, it's like they're all on vacation. I've found this to be an issue since moving to this new forum
It seems that every time a change is made people think they deserve Rank Down Tickets. Kabam has been very clear that they don't want to ever have to give them out again. IF they do get into a situation where they are necessary it will only be because of direct changes to a champions abilities. ie. if they someday decide Hyperion's power gain is too much and reduce it then you can probably expect to get a rank down ticket that will be locked for use only on Hyperion.
Outside of very specific examples like that you may as well just stop asking for tickets. It's not going to happen.