Seatin made a rookie mistake (but it isn't his fault) - Mr. Sinister synergy with Cyclops

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  • Colonaut123Colonaut123 Member Posts: 3,091 ★★★★★
    Patchie93 said:

    I mean he legitimately says he's not sure if its the best synergy for cyclops near the beginning of the video or did you just skip that part?

    No, he says: "I think it should be the best one for Cyclops". I demonstrated it is clearly not and provided an alternative synergy team.
  • Colonaut123Colonaut123 Member Posts: 3,091 ★★★★★
    Jaded said:

    Jaded said:

    Jaded said:

    Seatin isn’t in the content creators program...he was removed for account sharing a long time ago.

    He's still a content creator, just not a Content Creator.
    The point is you are holding people above standard. They are just normal people playing the game trying to make money to play the game. In this case he is just a youtuber. Nothing special.

    Also why not just bring this up with him?
    @Seatin
    By definition he is a content creator because he literally creates content for people to watch, to enter the content creator program you need to be a content creator but just because you are a content creator doesnt mean you are in the program. Understand the difference?
    The phase content creator only came around when kabam introduced the program. Seatin is a youtuber. He makes and edits videos, he does not create anything. Understand the difference?
    Yeah, if you really believe Kabam makes things up... A YouTuber is just one of a type of content creator. You also have podcasters, frequent forum posters (like myself and you), guide makers, etc.
  • Patchie93Patchie93 Member Posts: 1,898 ★★★★

    Patchie93 said:

    I mean he legitimately says he's not sure if its the best synergy for cyclops near the beginning of the video or did you just skip that part?

    No, he says: "I think it should be the best one for Cyclops". I demonstrated it is clearly not and provided an alternative synergy team.
    He says he thinks its the best but if you are a cyclops god please let me know in the comments for better synergies
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  • JadedJaded Member Posts: 5,477 ★★★★★

    Jaded said:

    Jaded said:

    Jaded said:

    Seatin isn’t in the content creators program...he was removed for account sharing a long time ago.

    He's still a content creator, just not a Content Creator.
    The point is you are holding people above standard. They are just normal people playing the game trying to make money to play the game. In this case he is just a youtuber. Nothing special.

    Also why not just bring this up with him?
    @Seatin
    By definition he is a content creator because he literally creates content for people to watch, to enter the content creator program you need to be a content creator but just because you are a content creator doesnt mean you are in the program. Understand the difference?
    The phase content creator only came around when kabam introduced the program. Seatin is a youtuber. He makes and edits videos, he does not create anything. Understand the difference?
    Yeah, if you really believe Kabam makes things up... A YouTuber is just one of a type of content creator. You also have podcasters, frequent forum posters (like myself and you), guide makers, etc.
    Hmm, obviously I don’t mean kabam came up with the specific term “content creators”. Till kabam’s program we all just called them youtubers. Now people call them content creators. They aren’t all content creators. But alas this is off my main point. Seatin is just another player trying to showcase something unique. Take everything with a gain of salt seen on YouTube.
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  • Colonaut123Colonaut123 Member Posts: 3,091 ★★★★★
    Agentk said:



    Without armor break 1609
    With armor break 2393
    So how am I wrong

    It is probably the node that lowers your attack.
  • Mathking13Mathking13 Member Posts: 988 ★★★

    Agentk said:

    Agentk said:

    True strike doesn’t make armour break do nothing it’s just armour break won’t increase damage with true strike until they are in negative armour

    That is factually wrong.
    How does corvus increase his damage with armor breaks then
    He doesn't.

    Bishop no armor break: medium hits 5601


    Bishop two armor breaks: medium still hits 5601


    Vid link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iThMk4v0Jiw

    Before you ask: 6* rank 2 Bishop has 260 base armor rating, rank 4 5* Corvus reduces armor rating by 361.76. Two should certainly reduce armor rating into the negative.

    He doesn't hit higher due to the armor breaks.
    Kabam put out a fix for this issue since the creation of that video. yes it used to be that True Damage and True Strike ignored negative Armor or Resistances, but now it works as they intended and you actually get more damage when you have armor breaks.
  • Mathking13Mathking13 Member Posts: 988 ★★★



    No, if you want a good Cyclops synergy team, it is this:
    - Blue Cyclops (Mutant Agenda with Wolverine, Nemesis with Magneto)
    - Havok (+100% AB duration with Cyclops)
    - Magneto (Enemies with Wolverine, Nemesis with Cyclops)
    - Wolverine (Enemies with Magneto, Rivals with Cyclops)
    - CAIW (Mutant Evolution with Wolverine (+20% passive prowess))
    - Namor (Friends with Magneto (+5% attack rating), Enemies with Magneto (+155 crit rating))

    I hope Seatin is going to redo the video with this synergy team, I wonder how Cyclops will perform then. I think Cyclops will hit harder during his special attacks, maybe bumping him up to pretty useful tier.

    Has nobody noticed yet that this synergy team contains 6 champions? do u even math bro?
  • Colonaut123Colonaut123 Member Posts: 3,091 ★★★★★



    No, if you want a good Cyclops synergy team, it is this:
    - Blue Cyclops (Mutant Agenda with Wolverine, Nemesis with Magneto)
    - Havok (+100% AB duration with Cyclops)
    - Magneto (Enemies with Wolverine, Nemesis with Cyclops)
    - Wolverine (Enemies with Magneto, Rivals with Cyclops)
    - CAIW (Mutant Evolution with Wolverine (+20% passive prowess))
    - Namor (Friends with Magneto (+5% attack rating), Enemies with Magneto (+155 crit rating))

    I hope Seatin is going to redo the video with this synergy team, I wonder how Cyclops will perform then. I think Cyclops will hit harder during his special attacks, maybe bumping him up to pretty useful tier.

    Has nobody noticed yet that this synergy team contains 6 champions? do u even math bro?
    Namor is optional but not required.
  • GreywardenGreywarden Member Posts: 843 ★★★★
    Cyclops sucks....
  • JadedJaded Member Posts: 5,477 ★★★★★

    Jaded said:

    Jaded said:

    Jaded said:

    Seatin isn’t in the content creators program...he was removed for account sharing a long time ago.

    He's still a content creator, just not a Content Creator.
    The point is you are holding people above standard. They are just normal people playing the game trying to make money to play the game. In this case he is just a youtuber. Nothing special.

    Also why not just bring this up with him?
    @Seatin
    By definition he is a content creator because he literally creates content for people to watch, to enter the content creator program you need to be a content creator but just because you are a content creator doesnt mean you are in the program. Understand the difference?
    The phase content creator only came around when kabam introduced the program. Seatin is a youtuber. He makes and edits videos, he does not create anything. Understand the difference?
    Lol what?? HAHAHAHA
    My dude, the word content creator was there before mcoc was even made what are you on about
    Do you know how read? I never said kabam made the phase. I said the phase only came around “here” when kabam introduced the program. So many people choose to act like a 5 year kid on these forums. Smh
  • belli300belli300 Member Posts: 704 ★★★
    Jaded said:

    Jaded said:

    Jaded said:

    Jaded said:

    Seatin isn’t in the content creators program...he was removed for account sharing a long time ago.

    He's still a content creator, just not a Content Creator.
    The point is you are holding people above standard. They are just normal people playing the game trying to make money to play the game. In this case he is just a youtuber. Nothing special.

    Also why not just bring this up with him?
    @Seatin
    By definition he is a content creator because he literally creates content for people to watch, to enter the content creator program you need to be a content creator but just because you are a content creator doesnt mean you are in the program. Understand the difference?
    The phase content creator only came around when kabam introduced the program. Seatin is a youtuber. He makes and edits videos, he does not create anything. Understand the difference?
    Lol what?? HAHAHAHA
    My dude, the word content creator was there before mcoc was even made what are you on about
    Do you know how read? I never said kabam made the phase. I said the phase only came around “here” when kabam introduced the program. So many people choose to act like a 5 year kid on these forums. Smh

    I think the term you’re looking for is phrase not phase. Man that confused me as I was reading through this post. 😂
  • TehsigzorzTehsigzorz Member Posts: 1,233 ★★★★
    Jaded said:

    Jaded said:

    Jaded said:

    Jaded said:

    Seatin isn’t in the content creators program...he was removed for account sharing a long time ago.

    He's still a content creator, just not a Content Creator.
    The point is you are holding people above standard. They are just normal people playing the game trying to make money to play the game. In this case he is just a youtuber. Nothing special.

    Also why not just bring this up with him?
    @Seatin
    By definition he is a content creator because he literally creates content for people to watch, to enter the content creator program you need to be a content creator but just because you are a content creator doesnt mean you are in the program. Understand the difference?
    The phase content creator only came around when kabam introduced the program. Seatin is a youtuber. He makes and edits videos, he does not create anything. Understand the difference?
    Lol what?? HAHAHAHA
    My dude, the word content creator was there before mcoc was even made what are you on about
    Do you know how read? I never said kabam made the phase. I said the phase only came around “here” when kabam introduced the program. So many people choose to act like a 5 year kid on these forums. Smh
    That is still wrong, many people have been using content creator way before the ccp. Just because you didnt use it doesnt mean others werent. You dont represent everyone bud so no need to act condescending when you have no substance.
  • TehsigzorzTehsigzorz Member Posts: 1,233 ★★★★
    Also dont lie, you said the word content creator came around when kabam came up with the program, you never mentioned here. Please re read your comment I previously replied to, its clear as the sky my dude.
  • JadedJaded Member Posts: 5,477 ★★★★★

    Also dont lie, you said the word content creator came around when kabam came up with the program, you never mentioned here. Please re read your comment I previously replied to, its clear as the sky my dude.

    It’s implied since we are talking about this game. Hence the quotation marks I added to “HERE”. Your inability to reading is childish at best.
    No one was going around calling mcoc youtubers “content creators” till kabam introduced the program. We just called them youtubers. Dumb argument with a child.
    belli300 said:

    Jaded said:

    Jaded said:

    Jaded said:

    Jaded said:

    Seatin isn’t in the content creators program...he was removed for account sharing a long time ago.

    He's still a content creator, just not a Content Creator.
    The point is you are holding people above standard. They are just normal people playing the game trying to make money to play the game. In this case he is just a youtuber. Nothing special.

    Also why not just bring this up with him?
    @Seatin
    By definition he is a content creator because he literally creates content for people to watch, to enter the content creator program you need to be a content creator but just because you are a content creator doesnt mean you are in the program. Understand the difference?
    The phase content creator only came around when kabam introduced the program. Seatin is a youtuber. He makes and edits videos, he does not create anything. Understand the difference?
    Lol what?? HAHAHAHA
    My dude, the word content creator was there before mcoc was even made what are you on about
    Do you know how read? I never said kabam made the phase. I said the phase only came around “here” when kabam introduced the program. So many people choose to act like a 5 year kid on these forums. Smh

    I think the term you’re looking for is phrase not phase. Man that confused me as I was reading through this post. 😂
    That’s 5am writing for me 😂
  • TehsigzorzTehsigzorz Member Posts: 1,233 ★★★★
    Jaded said:

    Also dont lie, you said the word content creator came around when kabam came up with the program, you never mentioned here. Please re read your comment I previously replied to, its clear as the sky my dude.

    It’s implied since we are talking about this game. Hence the quotation marks I added to “HERE”. Your inability to reading is childish at best.
    No one was going around calling mcoc youtubers “content creators” till kabam introduced the program. We just called them youtubers. Dumb argument with a child.
    belli300 said:

    Jaded said:

    Jaded said:

    Jaded said:

    Jaded said:

    Seatin isn’t in the content creators program...he was removed for account sharing a long time ago.

    He's still a content creator, just not a Content Creator.
    The point is you are holding people above standard. They are just normal people playing the game trying to make money to play the game. In this case he is just a youtuber. Nothing special.

    Also why not just bring this up with him?
    @Seatin
    By definition he is a content creator because he literally creates content for people to watch, to enter the content creator program you need to be a content creator but just because you are a content creator doesnt mean you are in the program. Understand the difference?
    The phase content creator only came around when kabam introduced the program. Seatin is a youtuber. He makes and edits videos, he does not create anything. Understand the difference?
    Lol what?? HAHAHAHA
    My dude, the word content creator was there before mcoc was even made what are you on about
    Do you know how read? I never said kabam made the phase. I said the phase only came around “here” when kabam introduced the program. So many people choose to act like a 5 year kid on these forums. Smh

    I think the term you’re looking for is phrase not phase. Man that confused me as I was reading through this post. 😂
    That’s 5am writing for me 😂
    So you lied, insult people when called out and live in a bubble and pretend to represent a community when you have no knowledge on them? What else did I miss?
  • TehsigzorzTehsigzorz Member Posts: 1,233 ★★★★
    edited November 2019
    I strongly recommend you look up what it means to be a content creator because its a waste of peoples time if you preach about something you have no knowledge of and have not kept up to date with the internet lingo that people you insult have. But hey if calling people you disagree with children then its soo much easier to disregard any idea that you could be wrong right? Also people were calling them content creators way before the program, again just cuz you didnt call them doesnt mean other people you havent met didnt. Like I said the word has been way before the CCP and I personally used it before the game was even made so you are objectively wrong but carry on living in your bubble and assuming you are always right.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,570 ★★★★★
    A Content Creator is anyone who creates media and content. The Content Creator Program is something that pertains to a specific program here. Not all Content Creators are a part of the program. This message brought to you by Geico. Lol.
  • GreywardenGreywarden Member Posts: 843 ★★★★
    Who cares about cyclops enough to start a thread, that should be the real discussion
  • Colonaut123Colonaut123 Member Posts: 3,091 ★★★★★
    People, let's drop the content creator nitpicking. It is derailing the thread.
  • TerraTerra Member Posts: 8,446 ★★★★★

    A Content Creator is anyone who creates media and content. The Content Creator Program is something that pertains to a specific program here. Not all Content Creators are a part of the program. This message brought to you by Geico. Lol.

    Well now. The person of wisdom steps out of the shadows. You sure do know how to choose what threads to involve yourself in. Also nice Geico pun
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,675 Guardian

    DNA3000 said:

    That doesn't automatically prove the synergy is broken: as others have pointed out there is a more complex trade off that is happening here. But it does illustrate the non-intuitive interaction between things that ignore armor (like crits and true strike) and negative armor effects like armor breaks.

    It does prove it is misleading. Like Seatin, you would think it would provide extra damage. There should be a warning message.
    This is a bit fuzzy. We can't reasonably ask what the average person would think, because honestly the average person doesn't look at the game mechanics enough for their intuition to be noteworthy. The game should try to be as clear as possible, but no game can be intuitively obvious to people who don't really try to pay attention.

    Among players who at least make some effort, some might think True Strike would always add damage, but why? That isn't a reasonable inference, because it wouldn't be true if the target simply had no armor. If it had no armor or resistances, then True Strike can't improve damage per hit. The confusing part is more subtle: True Strike can *reduce* damage if you're in an armor break situation where armor is negative.

    However, once you go down that rabbit hole, you have to ask the next logical question: should armor break reduce armor below zero? What does it mean for armor break to break something that is no longer present? This isn't a simple question to answer: there is no canonical conceptual basis for negative armor. The idea is so slippery that the devs have redefined it in the game several times without accompanying patch notes and only the most hard core testers have even noticed.

    Is "negative armor" something that reduces armor rating? In that case, the obvious implementation would be NetArmor = DR(armor - armorbreak). Is negative armor an effect that is the opposite of what armor does? In that case, the implementation would be NetArmor = DR(armor) - DR (armorbreak). Is negative armor a special case where damage is magnified instead of reduced? In that case, the implementation would be NetArmor = Sign(Armor-Armorbreak) * DR(Abs(Armor-Armorbreak)).

    Believe it or not, all three have been implemented in the game. I doubt more than a handful of players could even tell you when each was in force. And all this was *after* 12.0. Armor worked completely different *before* 12.0.
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