Kabam, can you stop pumping out obscure or weak god tier champions and give up proper OG'S???
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The villain from the Ant-Man sequel= GOD Warlock=GOD Quake=GOD Domino=GOD ETC....
Aegon, Symbiote Supreme, and Guillotine 2099, all made up- GODS
Magneto= TRASH Juggernaut=TRASH ETC... ok you're starting to fix champions, but still.
I mean, i don't even read comics, but why are we using Squirrel Girl instead of Magneto? AND WHERE THE HELL IS APOCALYPSE!?!?!?! I half expect Discopants Jubilee as next months god tier addition. I'm just goofing, but i have a point, don't i???
Aegon, Symbiote Supreme, and Guillotine 2099, all made up- GODS
Magneto= TRASH Juggernaut=TRASH ETC... ok you're starting to fix champions, but still.
I mean, i don't even read comics, but why are we using Squirrel Girl instead of Magneto? AND WHERE THE HELL IS APOCALYPSE!?!?!?! I half expect Discopants Jubilee as next months god tier addition. I'm just goofing, but i have a point, don't i???
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BUT we need balance on champions,dage,utility. ability ,niche wise proper balance!! i hate domino from bottom of my heart ,she has two gun and luck which is not real power and on other side we have most powerful mutant like magneto ,or storm who flat out sucks!!! same for all other class, yeh we need new champs to be powerful to drive sells, support game and so on but at the same time keeping balance on all old tired champions is necessity in any other game of this magnitude, why do we get 4 rework in 12 months, why not every month there is a rework, why waste time with voting,polls,beta,announcements, and bla bla bla for weeks and months !!! why is there
a need for "rebalancing" NEW champs instead of old tired champs, why not make new champs go through a proper quality testing and even ccp before releasing those champs!! reworking or buffing old champ with new animations and abilties will also drive sells for newer players as well,makes things interesting and rank up choices interesting for veteran players, keeps balance on AW,AQ, quests teams, gives ppl freedom
on upgrading champs they like instead of champs they have to!!!
We just got the Fantastic Four, Dr Doom, Namor, Cull Obsidian (Black Dwarf), Omega Red, Nick Fury, Mr Sinister, Havok, and Mysterio... all are extremely well-known. Most were also God Tier or above. There are some that are not God Tier, but have utility.
They will always inject some lesser known characters, as Marvel may want to highlight an older hero/villain for a better diversity amongst the classes. I mean, how many Mutants do we need?
As for the OG characters being less useful and below God Tier, not everything can be God Tier. You also have to look at the fact the game was different pre-12.0, and Kabam was sold to Netmarble and took a new, fresh direction that brought us these God Tier champs.
Kabam has plans to update these older champs, but it takes time to buff them all. I have been with the game since 2015, and we are finally seeing champs that we requested from players in 2016 and 2017. There is a thread for player input of new champs:
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/18/character-wishlist-thread-3-0/p1
Take a look and see what people have been asking for since back in 2017.
Kabam is open to any suggestions for tuning an old champ. However, it shouldn’t be “the champ isn’t good”. Most companies are already aware of the issue, but they are so busy with tuning some champions and creating newer ones that they lack resources. What might actually help is giving input as to how you would like Magneto to function. Give a detailed list of ability changes, signature abilities and stats. It comes across as more helpful to them, as you would have provided actionable advise rather than a general complaint.
Well-known, popular characters = Sells itself no matter how bad it is. (If in doubt, bump character's prestige.)
Unknown characters = Doesn't sell itself. Make it god-tier to create the demand.
Tbf, it's a really really smart way of doing business.
Though Paste Pot Pete would rule too
Paste Pot Pete for the win! 🤘🏻
Dr. Strange was once god tier, SWitch was once god tier, Thor, Widow, Wolverine, Deadpool, Hulk (right?), Ultron were all once god tier.
Nick Fury, Dr. Doom, Thing, Namor are god tier, Spiderman is god tier twice over (Starky, Stealth), Venom and Emma Frost are demigod-tier, Sabretooth, Red Hulk, Killmonger, Iceman, Hawkeye, Doc Oc, Blade, Ghost Rider, Starlord are all god tier or demigod tier.
Hell, Cap WWII even used to be good for his block proficiency, and Magneto was used in synergy teams before PB teams were removed.
All of these are very well known or decently well known characters, and are mixed well enough with more obscure characters. Not sure what you're talking about.
Second, symbiote supreme is doctor strange plus the venom symbiote which would theoretically be stronger than doctor strange.
And most importantly, the OG champs like hulk, Thor and iron man aren’t necessarily bad but just outdated. IM is **** but IMIW is a great champ. New characters will always have more than old champs.
Magneto desperately needs a re work like so many others. I had him when he first came out and he was decent for act 3. His abilities are massively outdated. If he was released today, he would probably be top 5 mutant champs.
1. Kabam has ALREADY gave us MANY well known characters, and still do to this day. Unfortunately, that brings us to...
2. In already giving us many of these said characters early on, they haven't aged well to say the least. How things were when many of the well know characters were introduced is not how it is now. If they had started the game with a bunch of relatively obscure/unknowns, I doubt the game would've lasted as long as it has.
3. They are buffing old characters, but that takes time, and doesn't really pay the bills so much as a fan service, and to maintain some balance in CoC. People want so many champs buffed, but...
4. The ever increasing number of champs in game alone makes it more of a task to buff a champ as they have to take into consideration so many interactions (abilities, synergies, nodes, etc).
5. In there being so many characters in game, they strive to introduce lesser known characters in between the well known ones to again, maintain some semblance of balance.
6. It's true that some of the would be 'weaker' characters in the comics are unbelievably strong in CoC. If they weren't, would you try to get them?
7. This game, while F2P has to bring in revenue to stay alive, let alone buff new champs. All the designs, redesigns, updates, etc cost money to create. So naturally they must keep the new champs desirable, regardless of their comparable strengths in the comics. This is MCoC, not Earth-616. Things are inherently going to be different.
8. As previously mentioned, licensing is a BIG part in who they can add, and when. Couple that with the promotional aspect for Marvel, it's a team effort in who gets added along the lines.
9. They cannot make certain characters as strong as they are in the comics as it would INDEFINITELY unbalance things in a way that would make the game unplayable. Can you imagine if the Phoenix was at her full strength? Sentry? Magnus? Heck, even Juggernaut? They'd be nearly unbeatable with certain champs. So again, balance is necessary.
10. With balance being the mantra here, we as the players may not be able to see the full depth of our requested changes/additions. While we may see them as great, they could be very damaging to the system Kabam has in place to keep this game alive. They always have to do what's best for the game and their company 1st while keeping their clientele happy and interested in their product. There in lies the ultimate challenge. Especially considering the fact some of the community will never be happy no matter what they do. Yet, they continue to login in and play daily, lol.
Like so much in life, certain things are beyond our control. Make the best of what you have, and try not to be disappointed with what you do not. Which essentially means keep your expectations realistic. Unrealistic expectations will undoubtedly lead to disappointment and discontentment. If you subconsciously enjoy such things, well... who am I to judge? 😂
Personally, overall I'm content with the state of the game. Of course there's always room for improvement, but that generally comes in stride. If you ask me, in general things are always improving in this game. There's always going to be flaws/bumps in the road along the way. However the good certainly outweighs the bad. Wouldn't still be playing after 3 years if that weren't the case. I would wager that's true for many.
You're under the assumption this is a visual glitch or something just chucking a bunch of Fury and cruelly buffs in an older champ and that can automatically fix it but it is a serious change to the mechanics of a character and that's not something you can knock out on a weekend, just for the lols. Older champs have a more simplified kit compared to new champs so to adapt them in the current meta requires a full rework including the immunities and resistances, understanding their damage output and retuning them to work with the new kit, not to mention the synergies and how those mechanics worked before and how they'd work after.
Newer champs don't require as in-depth of a rework, their immunities, resistances, past and current synergies are figured out and anything that might've been overlooked can be resolved with a synergy down the road. So these rebalances are quicker, hence the whole "bla bla bla" and the whole song and dance many can't stand required for older champs.
Also, Doop is the champ i want in here the most.
#BuffMagneto