**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
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They donated with an intention that the alliance would use it for AQ. They donated knowing that they wouldn't be able to access their resources in any way after they donated. Why should this be different?
Let’s take a couple common scenarios as an example.
A player recently donated 100 million gold to his treasury and this has been paying for his alliances AQ for the next 2 months. That alliance has paid nothing in gold for AQ so they are all positive on the resource and now the player who donated that gold gets it refunded afterwards. This is already a bad situation where he is now getting his AQ for free while his alliance had already had gold free AQ.
Two players have a trade set up. One donates the others gold and the other donates loyalty in trade for that gold. They both paid for exactly what was due to AQ but are now refunded 50% of those materials back. It’s enough to give them tickets, and plain flawed to give them those resources back but they are getting them back none the less. Inequitable, imbalanced, and these players practically printed resources out of thin air for themselves.
You can not withdraw resources from the treasury. It’s not a bank.
Weak Umberto weak. I can explain it to you but I cannot understand it for you.
Why should people that have been in the alliance for one month receive 1/30th of the current balance. If they don't do that, you seriously expect them to go back and figure out how much in excess you've donated since every account started? That's ridiculous to expect. They had to make a cutoff somewhere
It just doesn't make sense. 5 months is more than enough and already more than anyone would get had nothing changed but map costs.
What are some bad consequences to your idea?
So let's say Kabam gives full refunds to donations, who benefits the most? People who ran the most expensive map, because it'd be as if they had free maps for this year (as well as rank and map 7 crystals), and they'll also be getting the most resources back?
Returning resources in full makes no sense, especially since legitimate alliances/players chose to forgo map 6/7 AQ to save resources, but now will be further behind players who paid to receive rank rewards/map 7 rewards.
Also treasury loaders had free maps for all of 2018/2019, so an earlier cutoff of date on treasury refund will just benefit them more.
Not only would botters/treasury loaders benefit the most from treasury refund the most, Kabam wouldn't benefit whatsoever.
If the cheaters/3rd party buyers/botters get everything donated back, it'll be used for future gifting events? No thank you.
That would defeat the purpose of Kabam's move to retroactively punishing accounts who Kabam deems as breaking their rules.
Anyhow, aside from cheaper AQ cost, another good thing about this move is now Kabam can flag accounts they deem shady/potentially shady by association for future reference.
It's about as fair as you can expect. Expecting them to go through every players donations ever is ridiculous, as is expecting a massive resource windfall from this, as is expecting the entire treasury to be split between the alliance in tickets.
If you want to read about how inequitable refunding them would be flawed.
Let’s take a couple common scenarios as an example.
A player recently donated 100 million gold to his treasury and this has been paying for his alliances AQ for the next 2 months. That alliance has paid nothing in gold for AQ so they are all positive on the resource and now the player who donated that gold gets it refunded afterwards. This is already a bad situation where he is now getting his AQ for free while his alliance had already had gold free AQ.
Two players have a trade set up. One donates the others gold and the other donates loyalty in trade for that gold. They both paid for exactly what was due to AQ but are now refunded 50% of those materials back. It’s enough to give them tickets, and plain flawed to give them those resources back but they are getting them back none the less. Inequitable, imbalanced, and these players practically printed resources out of thin air for themselves.
Ticket as refunds are already flawed in that they are generating tickets from nothing. It would be ludicrous to return resources to players and generate resources from nothing.
Alternatively. a solution that solves all of this is to make all maps free across the board or an alternate solution would be a free month which should more than cover anything that is left for majority of the alliances that had access funds.
All of the people that play map 5 and now have completely free donations I do not understand your argument. You no longer have any donations to worry about so why would you need a refund at all?
1. Alliance's Treasury will reset to zero once a week, at the end of each AQ (one day after AQ, two days before the beginning of the next AQ). This way you prevent Treasury hoarding, but still let the alliance to decide how to split donations between members, help friends if needed, see balance so leadership know what map they can open, etc...
2. if someone drop donations and leave the alliance X hours\Days after, his donations will be deleted from Alliance treasury. if deleting his donations will put treasury in minus, the alliance will have time by the end of the AQ day, to fill the missing treasury or they won't be eligible to AQ rewards (daily, rank, milestone).
3. members that join the alliance after day1 of AQ won't be eligible to a Rank rewards and milestone.